NationStates Jolt Archive

What is it and why do you like it?

Rally Racing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tODaIj3n410&feature=related
NASCAR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N78-va_Y6mk
F1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FDtcjJMjQo
Street: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEr0la4gMiY

And of course my Fave, All American Drag Racing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOlw0cPcoK4&feature=related
( That is actually where I race )

Street racing is dangerous, but it's still my favorite. I hate, absolutely HATE Nascar.

Going around in circles for four hours is not my idea of fun.

Drag racing comes in close second, but I only watch drags between street cars, not multi-million dollar machines. I want to see something someone's put their sweat, blood, and time into up against their best friend on a Saturday night or something.

F1. Then WRC. Then bikes.

I was hoping to vote for horse racing.

I'm not really into racing or car-sports in general but I picked rally because I think it is pretty cool and impressive.
To be honest I think cars are kind of polluting objects that are actually merely a mean of individual transportation. And I prefer stuff like [url=http://www.formulazero.nl/]formula zero[url].
Not only because it is ecological but rather because it is about overcoming technological challenges (and then experiencing them on the field).
That's something I appreciate in F1 as well: big funds and research, just to make your ride that bit better/faster than that of your opponents.

Oh man, a racing thread I didn't start! Crazy.

It depends on what aspect I'm after. As a test of driver and machine, it's hard to argue with rally racing. Several days, hundreds of miles on what sometimes can only barely be called 'roads', streetable cars. It's the ultimate test. Unfortunately, as a spectator sport, it lacks. Just the nature of it's competition, to change it would be to diminish the racing. It's incredible to watch them clear hills or fly around dirt and snow corners just this side of out of control, but that doesn't give me a sense of the racing, and without that it's kind of a stunt show-impressive but not the race.

My favorite form of racing that blends my appreciation of the demands of machine and drivers is endurance sports cars. At its best it has a variety of car design philosophies on the track-mid engine, rear engine, front engine, V8, flat six, rotary, diesel. It can take all day. Plus, while you're watching there are up to four races going on at the same time, in (A)LMS there is Le Mans Prototypes 1 and 2 and GT 1 and 2. That's prototype, wedge racers sharing a track with street based race cars separated by what they could change from the street versions.

Now, when you're on the track that long you can get some snoozer wins-the lead car at the end of 24 hours the lead car is 5 laps ahead of the next, etc. But you can also get the best finishes ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2HF-sFLnc), and after 12 hours that finish is all the more dramatic.

As I typed this the Indianapolis 500 got underway.

Short of endurance sports cars, sports and touring car road racing is pretty good to watch-or just good, close racing-which despite not liking ovals that much or the cars or much when you get down to it, NASCAR has the closest racing going. It's not a favorite by a long shot, looooonnnng, but the racing is close.

I started off racing dirt ovals, and really, it is kind of bad ass. All out, up to four abreast sideways on dirt in open wheel cars steering with the throttle-that racing is just balls. I dig it, except that crack ups are often which can make the race boooooorrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnngggggg (I know that's counter intuitive, but a wreck means 5-10 minutes of pace laps cleaning the wreck up, I prefer flag to flag racing.)

The only form of racing I don't like and won't defend most of the time is (sorry) drag racing. 4 seconds isn't a race, steering wheels are there for a reason. They should hand the trophy to the engine builder. Sadly, I'll watch it in a pinch, but I really don't like it.

Street racing is dangerous, but it's still my favorite. I hate, absolutely HATE Nascar.

Going around in circles for four hours is not my idea of fun.

Drag racing comes in close second, but I only watch drags between street cars, not multi-million dollar machines. I want to see something someone's put their sweat, blood, and time into up against their best friend on a Saturday night or something.

That video I posted on there, is where my family races. We run a 10 second LS1 Firebird. It didnt cost more than 30,000 total, and its REALLY nice. I think your thinking about the Top Fuel cars.

You can get into 11 seconds for under 5 grand nowadays.

That video I posted is just a bunch of middle class people having a good time.

Racing doesn't interest me too much, but of these, Rally Racing is by far the most interesting.

Oh man, a racing thread I didn't start! Crazy.
es of pace laps cleaning the wreck up, I prefer flag to flag racing.)

The only form of racing I don't like and won't defend most of the time is (sorry) drag racing. 4 seconds isn't a race, steering wheels are there for a reason. They should hand the trophy to the engine builder. Sadly, I'll watch it in a pinch, but I really don't like it.

Believe me I like all forms of racing. But for me drag racing is the biggest rush.

And its not all down to the engine. And its not just going in a straight line and flooring it. You'd be surprised how hard it is to hold a 900 horsepower car in a straight line.

Believe me I like all forms of racing. But for me drag racing is the biggest rush.

And its not all down to the engine. And its not just going in a straight line and flooring it. You'd be surprised how hard it is to hold a 900 horsepower car in a straight line.

Drivers in other series manage to do it, and they get to play with corners too!

http://www.v8supercar.com.au/

Drivers in other series manage to do it, and they get to play with corners too!

Exactly-Sprint car drivers manage close to that all next to each other and on dirt twice a lap and at the end of it they have to pitch their car sideways with 15 to 20 other maniacs.

Bicycle. Then F1 and MotoGP.

Oh man, a racing thread I didn't start! Crazy.

It depends on what aspect I'm after. As a test of driver and machine, it's hard to argue with rally racing. Several days, hundreds of miles on what sometimes can only barely be called 'roads', streetable cars. It's the ultimate test.

...maybe you're thinking more of what I call "raids", like the Paris-Dakar, more than the usual circuit rallyes. In that case, I second you... still bicycles rule. Expecially the Giro, because of the mountains.

http://www.v8supercar.com.au/

Speed Channel finally showed some of those races in the winter (Western Hemisphere's winter) and they put on a good show. The racing was close and the tracks were awesome. There was one, I don't remember the name of the race, it was supposed to be a big deal race, the track was great with some incredible elevation changes and the race itself was pretty intense. It makes me want to shake the people who were in charge of Trans Am racing and go, "See? The Aussies and the Germans can pull this off!"

...maybe you're thinking more of what I call "raids", like the Paris-Dakar, more than the usual circuit rallyes. In that case, I second you... still bicycles rule. Expecially the Giro, because of the mountains.

Paris-Dakar is intense, but WRC has the same qualities I mentioned.

I put Rally though I like any racing where the track is interesting. The NASCAR and Indy high banked ovals get boring pretty quickly. I'll watch but, I'll usually be doing other things at the same time.

Paris-Dakar is wild and intense, would like to run in that!

Paris-Dakar is intense, but WRC has the same qualities I mentioned.

Meh, I don't know... surely WRC is more stressful to drivers than F1, of course. Anyway as TV show is a total failure. I guess you should live it (by driving a car or by standing really close) to get the full experience.

None. Did not vote.

Paris-Dakar is wild and intense, would like to run in that!

One of my 'must do' things is run a class 11 (bone stock VW Bug) in the Baja 1000.

Meh, I don't know... surely WRC is more stressful to drivers than F1, of course. Anyway as TV show is a total failure. I guess you should live it (by driving a car or by standing really close) to get the full experience.

Well, that's what I was saying-as a test it's where it's at, but as a spectator sport you really can't get a sense of the race, which is what I'm watching racing for, the sport not just the demonstration. I can't get as excited looking at a results sheet and saying, "Ooooh! His elapsed time was 1.8 seconds less than hers!" the same way I can watching the final lap with two cars swapping places.

And of course my Fave, All American Drag Racing

Who the hell wants to watch a load of men dressed as women racing each other?

Speed Channel finally showed some of those races in the winter (Western Hemisphere's winter) and they put on a good show. The racing was close and the tracks were awesome. There was one, I don't remember the name of the race, it was supposed to be a big deal race, the track was great with some incredible elevation changes and the race itself was pretty intense. It makes me want to shake the people who were in charge of Trans Am racing and go, "See? The Aussies and the Germans can pull this off!"

Bathurst?

Speed Channel finally showed some of those races in the winter (Western Hemisphere's winter) and they put on a good show. The racing was close and the tracks were awesome. There was one, I don't remember the name of the race, it was supposed to be a big deal race, the track was great with some incredible elevation changes and the race itself was pretty intense. It makes me want to shake the people who were in charge of Trans Am racing and go, "See? The Aussies and the Germans can pull this off!"

well my state losing it thanks to dick head Premier Alan Carpenter

Bathurst?
That sounds right, is that a 1000 kilometer race? Wait, I have google...yep, thats the one.

Speed Channel finally showed some of those races in the winter (Western Hemisphere's winter)

Is that different to the Eastern Hemisphere's one then?

I voted WRC, but you make a good point about it not being spectator friendly.
Nevertheless, it is still the most demanding test of man and machine from the options provided. (Paris Dakar etc. are more demanding on the machine, while the Le Mans 24 hour series may be more demanding on the driver.)

Is that different to the Eastern Hemisphere's one then?
Only better...shaddup...

I voted WRC, but you make a good point about it not being spectator friendly.
Nevertheless, it is still the most demanding test of man and machine from the options provided. (Paris Dakar etc. are more demanding on the machine, while the Le Mans 24 hour series may be more demanding on the driver.)
Well, in endurance sports cars they switch the drivers. But if you take their stints collectively they might be in the car longer than WRC drivers (in one day, WRC drivers have to do it for a couple days)-I don't know about races like Paris-Dakar, that's fighting a car that's fighting back.

Only better...shaddup...

Well, in endurance sports cars they switch the drivers. But if you take their stints collectively they might be in the car longer than WRC drivers (in one day, WRC drivers have to do it for a couple days)-I don't know about races like Paris-Dakar, that's fighting a car that's fighting back.

While WRC drivers are at it for three days in a row (usually), during each of those three days there are normally only about 4 hours per day of special stages. The rest of the time they are going from place to place at ordinary housewife speeds or working on repairing the car. The Le Mans drivers though, are racing flat out for 8 hours of that 24 hour period each (assuming three driver teams). Thus I consider this to be tougher on the driver than WRC.

I don't know enough about the Paris Dakar to know how long the drivers run each day. Too long for me, I know that.

While WRC drivers are at it for three days in a row (usually), during each of those three days there are normally only about 4 hours per day of special stages. The rest of the time they are going from place to place at ordinary housewife speeds or working on repairing the car. The Le Mans drivers though, are racing flat out for 8 hours of that 24 hour period each (assuming three driver teams). Thus I consider this to be tougher on the driver than WRC.

I don't know enough about the Paris Dakar to know how long the drivers run each day. Too long for me, I know that.

It's four drives for 'enduros' (races over 8 hours) and two for 'sprints,' races from three to eight.

I might have the threshold wrong. Anyway, it's 4 at Le Mans, it used to be two!

Ostrich.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ese36G5LC-U&feature=related Teehee!

Maybe it's because it was the Monaco Grand Prix this weekend, but F1 all the way. :)

Horseracing.

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Only 2 people like NASCAR?

Only 2 people like NASCAR?

I'm surprised on this forum that there are that many.

None. Car racing is fucking retarded.

While WRC drivers are at it for three days in a row (usually), during each of those three days there are normally only about 4 hours per day of special stages. The rest of the time they are going from place to place at ordinary housewife speeds or working on repairing the car. The Le Mans drivers though, are racing flat out for 8 hours of that 24 hour period each (assuming three driver teams). Thus I consider this to be tougher on the driver than WRC.

On the other hand, the Le Mans drivers are on a course which doesn't change in layout at all (even if it changes in track condition), and they know it off by heart.

WRC drivers are on stages that they don't know, and have to rely on pace notes to guess what is coming up next.

I know which seems tougher on the driver.

I'm not really a fan of racing itself, but I find the engineering that goes into those machines fascinating. Cars are awesome. :cool:

None. Car racing is fucking retarded.

Seconded...

...especially here in the States.

"Let's clear cut this land and build a giant fucking concrete raceway and then race gas guzzling autos on it seemingly all year long."

And there are those who wonder why the South had a drought this winter.

Favorite Kind of Racing?

Duck (http://www.thegreatbritishduckrace.co.uk/).

None. Car racing is fucking retarded.

How do you figure?

You do not like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu3PuCs1NuM&feature=related

Do not even say its a redneck thing, those cars cost 30-40 grand for a cheap one.

How do you figure?

You do not like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu3PuCs1NuM&feature=related

Do not even say its a redneck thing, those cars cost 30-40 grand for a cheap one.

That was pretty badass.

What is it and why do you like it?

Rally Racing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tODaIj3n410&feature=related
NASCAR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N78-va_Y6mk
F1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FDtcjJMjQo
Street: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEr0la4gMiY

And of course my Fave, All American Drag Racing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOlw0cPcoK4&feature=related
( That is actually where I race )

Of the ones listed?

None, they are all pointless dick waving contests.

F1, its brilliantly entertaining and allways full of drama.

Foot.

That was pretty badass.

It is pretty badass, the cars we race are a bit faster than that. And there are a ton of cars that are alot faster than that.


Its so easy to love.

That was pretty badass.

You can get that kind of power and acceleration, but on dirt, with other cars on the track, and a 180 degree turn, and you do it for several laps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd85a67KIX0&feature=related). Power is any idiot's game, but that kind of power and control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kqbaYNSrRA), that's racing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsQSkEXmxxk&feature=related)

EDIT:
One of the best recoveries I've ever seen... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV9Zwnp7ICM&feature=related)