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SoCal is screwed. I'd find it less disturbing if I didn't live here, in Riverside County to be honest about 59 miles east of LA, so if and when this happens who knows what will happen to my 1960's house, maybe 1950's late. They are talking about the San Andreas fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_Fault


This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.


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SoCal is screwed. I'd find it less disturbing if I didn't live here, in Riverside County to be honest about 59 miles east of LA, so if and when this happens who knows what will happen to my 1960's house, maybe 1950's late. They are talking about the San Andreas fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_Fault


This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.


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Sounds like fun.

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SoCal is screwed. I'd find it less disturbing if I didn't live here, in Riverside County to be honest about 59 miles east of LA, so if and when this happens who knows what will happen to my 1960's house, maybe 1950's late. They are talking about the San Andreas fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_Fault


This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.


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Surf to Salt Bay City, Utah . . .

46% chance of happening within the next 30 years.

That would be what, 1.5% annual chance of it happening?

1800 dead predicted. Out of california's population of 36457549, that gives a random person a 0.005% chance of being killed, assuming it happens.

Not exactly dire odds.

46% chance of happening within the next 30 years.

That would be what, 1.5% annual chance of it happening?

1800 dead predicted. Out of california's population of 36457549, that gives a random person a 0.005% chance of being killed, assuming it happens.

Not exactly dire odds.

No but it's not just the immediate death factor, but the economy crippling damage to infrastructure etc...

No but it's not just the immediate death factor, but the economy crippling damage to infrastructure etc...

Well, if I let the predictions of the media scare me with tales of economic doom, I'd be scared regardless of whether I happened to live in California as those tales are prevalent and varied, and constant.

With the case of this prediction, that damage would be felt by non-Californians too.

This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.

There are several reasons I do not and would never live in California.
Far left liberal political climate.
Wild fires.
Mud slides.
Earthquakes.
Cost of living.

If I were you I'd move.

There are several reasons I do not and would never live in California.
Far left liberal political climate.

Meaningless stereotype with no bearing on reality. What exactly is a "political climate" anyway? Like I'd go outside and suddenly liberalism is in the air?

This FORUM has a "far left liberal political climate," yet you read and post here...


Wild fires.

Don't live in the hillsides with the pyrogenic brush.

Mud slides.

Don't live in the hillsides of La Conchita.

Earthquakes.

Never bothered me.

Cost of living.


Finally! A valid complaint.

But you get what you pay for.

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SoCal is screwed. I'd find it less disturbing if I didn't live here, in Riverside County to be honest about 59 miles east of LA, so if and when this happens who knows what will happen to my 1960's house, maybe 1950's late. They are talking about the San Andreas fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_Fault


This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.


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About 1 1/2 years ago, I lived in Moreno Valley and worked in Riverside. I slept through several quakes. Quakes are not among the reasons I left, but it seems fortuitous that I did. Though, where I am now (Southern Colorado), there's a small threat of tornadoes and a large threat of blizzards - there is no safe place on the planet - natural disasters occur everywhere.

Just of a bunch of liberals living in CA. No one will miss them ( kidding ).

But really when it does happen, I cant even imagine how bad the damage will be.

This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.

beyond supergluing the planets plates together I don't know what you can plan on doing :confused:

I say just live with it

No but it's not just the immediate death factor, but the economy crippling damage to infrastructure etc...

Basically it would inflict the equivalent of a mild recession on the US economy.

Basically it would inflict the equivalent of a mild recession on the US economy.

Don't forget even higher gas prices. Speculators always love a good natural disaster.

Don't forget even higher gas prices. Speculators always love a good natural disaster.

obsessed much? :p

46% chance of happening within the next 30 years.

That would be what, 1.5% annual chance of it happening?

Not exactly dire odds.

I don't think that's quite how the percentage works. The way I understand it, there's a 46% chance each year for the next 30 years.

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SoCal is screwed. I'd find it less disturbing if I didn't live here, in Riverside County to be honest about 59 miles east of LA, so if and when this happens who knows what will happen to my 1960's house, maybe 1950's late. They are talking about the San Andreas fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andreas_Fault


This really isn't a joke and will happen one day. For anybody living in the area what do you think about it and what will you do when this does happen. Don't be naive or arrogant about it either because it will happen one day.


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Ha! Suck it, SoCal!

Just of a bunch of liberals living in CA. No one will miss them ( kidding ).

Wrong half of the state. If SoCal falls in the ocean NorCal would lose some of what would balance out our liberal tendencies (we'd still have parts of real Northern California, where almost no one lives relative to the rest of the state).

Thing is, it's not like we don't know this is coming and haven't learned from other cities living on the ring. It'll be unpleasant, but we'll survive it. And really, compared with other natural disasters areas, one big earthquake every 50 to 80 years? Totally livable.

beyond supergluing the planets plates together I don't know what you can plan on doing :confused:

I say just live with it


If my house falls down how do you think I live with it? In a tent?


I think some see this as a scare tactic, well it's really not but more people studying and trying to prepare for something that will happen if we want it to or not. This one will go beyond a 7.8 that leveled all of San Francisco in 1906, not a pretty sight.

Far left liberal political climate.


Ignoring, for the moment, the absurd notion that there is any "far left" in the United States...

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November 2004 General Election
Plurality vote by county

Plurality votes for John F. Kerry: 23
Plurality votes for George W. Bush: 36

State total vote for John F. Kerry: 6,745,485 (54.4%)
State total vote for George W. Bush: 5,509,826 (44.4%)

Source: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2004_general/formatted_pres_detail.pdf

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Yes, California has a "far left" political climate, if we ignore the fact that most counties vote Republican, and if we ignore what is probably one of the largest concentrations of Republican voters in the entire country. Not ignoring these facts would actually help us better explain how such a "far left" state could produce people like, say, Ronald Reagan or Richard Nixon.

Never mind the single largest and most productive economy in the entire country; eight or ninth most productive in the entire world. "Far leftists" aren't supposed to be able to do that (...).

So stay out of San Francisco; pretty much everywhere else in the state, you'll fit in just fine.

About 1 1/2 years ago, I lived in Moreno Valley and worked in Riverside. I slept through several quakes. Quakes are not among the reasons I left, but it seems fortuitous that I did. Though, where I am now (Southern Colorado), there's a small threat of tornadoes and a large threat of blizzards - there is no safe place on the planet - natural disasters occur everywhere.




I have been here for 18 years, thru 2 7.0 quakes. You may have slept thru a minor tembler but you dont sleep thru 2 7.0 quakes in one day. Bound to wake you up. Trust me, you have yet to feel a REAL earthquake, I have more than once. It may seem like fun at first, that fades.

Disaster occur everywhere at some point, doesn't make it any less pleasent when they do. Some areas are more prone than others, like SOCAL will be more prone than some northern states. Some places are just more safe. Of course quakes are not the main reason I don't like it here, if you did live i Riverside you would understand what a rathole this place is. A quake may only improve it...After I fine the exit.

Ignoring, for the moment, the absurd notion that there is any "far left" in the United States...

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November 2004 General Election
Plurality vote by county

Plurality votes for John F. Kerry: 23
Plurality votes for George W. Bush: 36

State total vote for John F. Kerry: 6,745,485 (54.4%)
State total vote for George W. Bush: 5,509,826 (44.4%)

Source: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2004_general/formatted_pres_detail.pdf

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Yes, California has a "far left" political climate, if we ignore the fact that most counties vote Republican, and if we ignore what is probably one of the largest concentrations of Republican voters in the entire country. Not ignoring these facts would actually help us better explain how such a "far left" state could produce people like, say, Ronald Reagan or Richard Nixon.

Never mind the single largest and most productive economy in the entire country; eight or ninth most productive in the entire world. "Far leftists" aren't supposed to be able to do that (...).


San Francisco is far-left.

Didn't the voters of this state also ban gay marriage? Not very lefty.

So stay out of San Francisco; pretty much everywhere else in the state, you'll fit in just fine.

But really, aside from Santa Cruz, it's the best part.

I have been here for 18 years, thru 2 7.0 quakes. You may have slept thru a minor tembler but you dont sleep thru 2 7.0 quakes in one day. Bound to wake you up. Trust me, you have yet to feel a REAL earthquake, I have more than once. It may seem like fun at first, that fades.

Disaster occur everywhere at some point, doesn't make it any less pleasent when they do. Some areas are more prone than others, like SOCAL will be more prone than some northern states. Some places are just more safe. Of course quakes are not the main reason I don't like it here, if you did live i Riverside you would understand what a rathole this place is. A quake may only improve it...After I fine the exit.

I'm (much to my disgust) a native Californian. I lived in the inaptly titled "Inland Empire" most of my adult life. I know about earthquakes. If they were the only problem California had, I'd still be there, but everything from Fresno south, as you so cogently pointed out, is a rathole.

San Francisco is far-left.


It's "far left," anyway.


Didn't the voters of this state also ban gay marriage?


California's large religious and socially conservative population helped pass Proposition 22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_22_%282000%29) by 61.4% in 2000. However, the State Supreme Court recently ruled that such measures violate the constitutional rights of same-sex couples.

But really, aside from Santa Cruz, it's the best part.

I'm sure it is; the only time I've been there, I sat in an airplane for 10 minutes waiting to continue to the trip up to Oregon. :D

But both San Francisco and Santa Cruz are tiny islands in what is otherwise a strongly religious and socially conservative state. I might throw Los Angeles into the island group as well, but its "far left"-ness mostly has to do with rent control and welfare; social conservatism is still very strong there.

I'm sure it is. But both San Francisco and Santa Cruz are but tiny islands in what is otherwise a strongly religious and socially conservative state.

I might throw Los Angeles into the island group as well, but its "far left"-ness mostly has to do with rent control and welfare; social conservatism is still very strong there.

I grew up in Sacramento, which is relatively conservative compared to San Francisco, but even San Francisco-despite being used as the 'boogeyman' of conservative politics, is a mixture. Look, we're what? 13% of the US population in this state-you think because you drew a banana around us on a map we're all going to have the same politics? There are conservatives, libertarians, progressives, and frankly the uninterested. There is a broad spectrum here because there are a lot of people here.

As to the rest of the state being 'conservative,' that's as equally reductive and inaccurate as San Francisco being 'far left'-you could hardly call Mendicino County, or Humbolt County 'conservative?' If you super imposed us on the other coast we'd take up the space of a dozen states, would you paint them with one brush?

It's silly.

As to the rest of the state being 'conservative,' that's as equally reductive and inaccurate as San Francisco being 'far left'-you could hardly call Mendicino County, or Humbolt County 'conservative?' If you super imposed us on the other coast we'd take up the space of a dozen states, would you paint them with one brush?


It depends what we mean by "conservative." If we mean a specific party (Republican, Constitution, Libertarian, etc.), you're absolutely right; our brush will certainly be far too wide. But, I think valid statements concerning general principles (which cross party lines most of the time, anyway) focusing on the state population as a whole can be made. Again, for example, Proposition 22 passed by 61.4% because California does, in fact, have a significant socially conservative population. This doesn't mean that I can accurately predict the "conservativeness" of particular individuals, but I can quite throughly reject certain statements concerning the state as a whole, like it's supposedly being "far-left."


It's silly


Such is politics, after all.

I'm (much to my disgust) a native Californian. I lived in the inaptly titled "Inland Empire" most of my adult life. I know about earthquakes. If they were the only problem California had, I'd still be there, but everything from Fresno south, as you so cogently pointed out, is a rathole.

I have lived here all my adult life, Inland empire. Horrid place. I have lived in CA for 25 years now, coming up on 26. I never liked it here, I wish earthquakes were the only problem this place had maybe then it would be livable. What I wouldn't give to live on the Canada side of the border. So far the only good thing about Socal is the Lakers. But I don't think I need to tell you about this, You seem to already know.

It depends what we mean by "conservative." If we mean a specific party (Republican, Constitution, Libertarian, etc.), you're absolutely right; our brush will certainly be far too wide. But, I think valid statements concerning general principles (which cross party lines most of the time, anyway) focusing on the state population as a whole can be made. Again, for example, Proposition 22 passed by 61.4% because California does, in fact, have a significant socially conservative population. This doesn't mean that I can accurately predict the "conservativeness" of particular individuals, but I can quite throughly reject certain statements concerning the state as a whole, like it's supposedly being "far-left."



Such is politics, after all.


Its far left compared to...lets say Texas.

It depends what we mean by "conservative." If we mean a specific party (Republican, Constitution, Libertarian, etc.), you're absolutely right; our brush will certainly be far too wide. But, I think valid statements concerning general principles (which cross party lines most of the time, anyway) focusing on the state population as a whole can be made. Again, for example, Proposition 22 passed by 61.4% because California does, in fact, have a significant socially conservative population. This doesn't mean that I can accurately predict the "conservativeness" of particular individuals, but I can quite throughly reject certain statements concerning the state as a whole, like it's supposedly being "far-left."



Such is politics, after all.

We passed Medical Marijuana and passed a proposition that did away with Affirmative Action on the same ballot.