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Vast Cracks In Arctic Ice

Kyronea
24-05-2008, 05:56
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7417123.stm

Vast cracks appear in Arctic ice
By David Shukman
Environment correspondent, BBC News

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A Canadian expedition found the new cracks

Dramatic evidence of the break-up of the Arctic ice-cap has emerged from research during an expedition by the Canadian military.

Scientists travelling with the troops found major new fractures during an assessment of the state of giant ice shelves in Canada's far north.

The team found a network of cracks that stretched for more than 10 miles (16km) on Ward Hunt, the area's largest shelf.

The fate of the vast ice blocks is seen as a key indicator of climate change.

One of the expedition's scientists, Derek Mueller of Trent University, Ontario, told me: "I was astonished to see these new cracks.

"It means the ice shelf is disintegrating, the pieces are pinned together like a jigsaw but could float away," Dr Mueller explained.

According to another scientist on the expedition, Dr Luke Copland of the University of Ottawa, the new cracks fit into a pattern of change in the Arctic.

"We're seeing very dramatic changes; from the retreat of the glaciers, to the melting of the sea ice.

"We had 23% less (sea ice) last year than we've ever had, and what's happening to the ice shelves is part of that picture."

When ice shelves break apart, they drift offshore into the ocean as "ice islands", transforming the very geography of the coastline.


Last year, I was part of a BBC team that joined Dr Mueller and Dr Copland as they carried out the first research on Ayles Ice Island, an iceberg the size of Manhattan.

It has since split into two, each vast chunk of ice now 400 miles (640km) south of its original position.

The rapid changes in the Arctic have reignited disputes over territory.

The Canadian military's expedition was billed as a "sovereignty patrol", the lines of snowmobiles flying Canadian flags in a display of control.

After the record Arctic melting last year, all eyes are now on what happens to the sea ice this summer.

Although its maximum extent last winter was slightly greater than the year before, it was still below the long-term average.

Well, this feels slightly scary. Could someone who understands this stuff clarify for me--and the rest of us--what exactly this means?
Soviestan
24-05-2008, 05:58
The last line allows me to carry on without caring about a little ice. I got bigger issues to deal with.

"Although its maximum extent last winter was slightly greater than the year before, it was still below the long-term average."
Conserative Morality
24-05-2008, 06:01
It means we're entering a period similar to the medieval warm period. We will soon have a population boom, and brave knights shall ride forht and defeat many a foul creature!

Okay, maybe not the last part...
New Manvir
24-05-2008, 06:12
It means we're entering a period similar to the medieval warm period. We will soon have a population boom, and brave knights shall ride forht and defeat many a foul creature!

*Get's hopes up*


Okay, maybe not the last part...

Awww, :(

*Put's armour back in closet*
Conserative Morality
24-05-2008, 06:14
*Get's hopes up*




Awww, :(

*Put's armour back in closet*

Maybe next time.

Also, your armour seems to be... in the closet! *Crickets chirp* Get it? It's in closet... because.. *Gets hit by tomato, cries*
Marrakech II
24-05-2008, 06:49
I wonder if I should be buying up waterfront property in Alaska. May turn out to be a nice summer retreat.
Brutland and Norden
24-05-2008, 06:54
I wonder if I should be buying up waterfront property in Alaska. May turn out to be a nice summer retreat.
I hear they have choice property up in the northern coast. Comes free with oil too.
Marrakech II
24-05-2008, 07:03
I hear they have choice property up in the northern coast. Comes free with oil too.

Probably not a bad idea. Was telling the wife that we should buy some farm land in Indiana or Texas that has old wells on it. That way we could sink a private well and get 3-4 barrels a day. Like this guy-http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356606,00.html
Brutland and Norden
24-05-2008, 07:10
Probably not a bad idea. Was telling the wife that we should buy some farm land in Indiana or Texas that has old wells on it. That way we could sink a private well and get 3-4 barrels a day. Like this guy-http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356606,00.html
Oh. That seems to be fun. Unfortunately, my country seems to have no oil. :(
greed and death
24-05-2008, 08:04
Probably not a bad idea. Was telling the wife that we should buy some farm land in Indiana or Texas that has old wells on it. That way we could sink a private well and get 3-4 barrels a day. Like this guy-http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356606,00.html

yeah pretty common in Texas. it is why gas here is still 1 dollar a gallon.
By 2020 Texas is projected to be greater then the rest of the Us economy
and 2050 Texas is projected to be greater then europe and China combined.

guess more Iraqs in the future then since it will be Texas as worlds sole super power.
Nobel Hobos
24-05-2008, 08:23
I'm sorry for the polar bears, of course, but the Northwest Passage being free of ice could be a boon for sea trade between the US and Russia.

You want scary sea-level effects, look at ANTarctica. And eventually, Greenland. Two mile deep ice there, and it's sitting on rock.
Marrakech II
24-05-2008, 14:48
yeah pretty common in Texas. it is why gas here is still 1 dollar a gallon.
By 2020 Texas is projected to be greater then the rest of the Us economy
and 2050 Texas is projected to be greater then europe and China combined.

guess more Iraqs in the future then since it will be Texas as worlds sole super power.

A dollar a gallon of gas in Texas? Maybe in Dreamland, Texas but nowhere else.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-05-2008, 15:39
From high above, the new arctic ice cracks spell out: 'Hahahaha!!! Pwned!!'

:)
Lord Grey II
24-05-2008, 15:50
yeah pretty common in Texas. it is why gas here is still 1 dollar a gallon.

1 dollar a gallon? Where the hell is that going on? I live in Texas and last I checked (yesterday) gas was $3.75/gallon. If it's still a dollar a gallon somewhere in Texas, I'll drive there and buy enough gas to last me a couple of months!
Cypresaria
24-05-2008, 21:07
It means we're entering a period similar to the medieval warm period. We will soon have a population boom, and brave knights shall ride forht and defeat many a foul creature!

Okay, maybe not the last part...


Aye and merrily bought to an end by a dose of black death

or as Yersinia pestis* would say "You've been pwned!"

El-presidente Boris

*the microbe that causes plague to the uneducated
CthulhuFhtagn
25-05-2008, 02:42
It means we're entering a period similar to the medieval warm period.

The Medieval Warm Period was limited strictly to Western Europe and parts of the eastern seaboard of North America. The Arctic is not in Western Europe or the eastern seaboard of North America. Ergo, we cannot be entering a period similar to the Medieval Warm Period.
Tagmatium
25-05-2008, 02:46
It means we're entering a period similar to the medieval warm period. We will soon have a population boom, and brave knights shall ride forht and defeat many a foul creature!

Okay, maybe not the last part...
Nonetheless, the Medieval Climatic Opitmum was all well and good, but it led onto rather bad things.

Like the Little Ice Age.

And then fun was had by all.
Conserative Morality
25-05-2008, 02:49
Nonetheless, the Medieval Climatic Opitmum was all well and good, but it led onto rather bad things.

Like the Little Ice Age.

And then fun was had by all.

True,true. But it's how our twisted little planet works.
Straughn
25-05-2008, 02:49
Nonetheless, the Medieval Climatic Opitmum was all well and good, but it led onto rather bad things.

Like the Little Ice Age.

And then fun was had by all.
Like finger food, ribs and flank steak.
*hisssssss*
Straughn
25-05-2008, 02:50
I wonder if I should be buying up waterfront property in Alaska. May turn out to be a nice summer retreat.

Might wait to build, since much is on melting permafrost.
Tagmatium
25-05-2008, 02:50
Build things on stilts, best way forward.
Tagmatium
25-05-2008, 02:51
New Orleans ftw!
..... *hisssssss*That kind of only counts if one builds things below sea level to begin with, really.
Straughn
25-05-2008, 02:52
Build things on stilts, best way forward.New Orleans ftw!
..... *hisssssss*
Zilam
25-05-2008, 03:03
Hopefully all the ice melts. That way here in Illinois we could be all the more closer to the beach :D
Straughn
25-05-2008, 03:19
That kind of only counts if one builds things below sea level to begin with, really.Why not just move on to hovercraft and/or electrostatic repulsion and be on with it?