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The top so called expert on Global Warming in Ozz says we need to pump sulfur into the atmosphere to "dim" the Sun.

He has called for a radical suite of emergency measures to be put in place.
The gas sulphur could be inserted into the earth's stratosphere to keep out the sun's rays and slow global warming, a process called global dimming. Hmm I thought we already had clouds....
"We need to be ready to start doing it in perhaps five years time if we fail to achieve what we're trying to achieve." Oh Really?
Prof Flannery, the 2007 Australian of the Year, said the sulphur could be dispersed above the earth's surface by adding it to jet fuel.
Jet fuel? Sounds a bit expensive.
He conceded there were risks to global dimming via sulphur.

"The consequences of doing that are unknown."
Unknown eh?

http://au.news.yahoo.com/080519/2/16x42.html

Is this guy crazy, a genius or is he just another Global Warming Prophet like Al Gore?





In other news the Global Warming Petition Project is still going strong.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/

If he said that to me I would say:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Killer_67/lolwut.jpg

Why don't we stick to limiting the amount of crap that we pump into the environment?

I don't see how this logic follows.

1. There is a problem because we polluted.
2. Let's fix it by pumping more pollutants into the air.
3. ???We don't know what will happen.???
4. Profit and death.

:eek:

The Matrix, y´all.

:eek:

The Matrix, y´all.

Good point.

Maybe this is really just a plan to sabatoge the potential of solar power?

Or prevent that robot uprising which is inevitably going to occur.. eventually..someday... somewhere...over the rainbow..

First we need better robots. Then we can block out the sun.

Unless the future is actually Battlestar Galactica...

Reminds me of Mr Burns in the Simpsons when he blocked out the Sun to sell more power.

http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/10/24/simpsons%20sun-jj-001.jpg

I think people are misunderstanding what Tim Flannery is trying to achieve here. Please understand, he likes to create controversy to make important points. His logic in this case is like this.

1. Climate change is real and serious.

2. We aren't doing enough.

3. Disaster looms.

4. If we keep on our current path, sulphur is the only solution.

5. Go back to step 2 and treat climate change seriously now.

I think people are misunderstanding what Tim Flannery is trying to achieve here. Please understand, he likes to create controversy to make important points. His logic in this case is like this.

1. Climate change is real and serious.

2. We aren't doing enough.

3. Disaster looms.

4. If we keep on our current path, sulphur is the only solution.

5. Go back to step 2 and treat climate change seriously now.

Where is the step where Mr Flannery gets treatment? Seriously though we get the point of him doing this. However it will not win over people like me that are in the middle on this whole subject.

It would be better to use Aluminum Oxide. Safer for people and animals, and visible light would be less affected.

though sulfur would be cheaper just refine jet fuel less and bam sulfur in the upper atmosphere.

It would work. people just don't like such measures because we don't know what other problems may creep up such as plants dying off form lack of sunlight.

Where is the step where Mr Flannery gets treatment? Seriously though we get the point of him doing this. However it will not win over people like me that are in the middle on this whole subject.

Yeah, that's the problem with being a controversialist. You may annoy more people than you convince. He has a track record of doing that.

Good point.

Maybe this is really just a plan to sabatoge the potential of solar power?

Or prevent that robot uprising which is inevitably going to occur.. eventually..someday... somewhere...over the rainbow..

It might be all that and more...:eek:

Yep. That's a good idea. They can't figure out how to save sand dunes and we're gonna let em control the global climate. Can you say Snowball Earth II? Let me know when they're gonna start so I can load my underground bunker with supplies. :p

Yep. That's a good idea. They can't figure out how to save sand dunes and we're gonna let em control the global climate. Can you say Snowball Earth II? Let me know when they're gonna start so I can load my underground bunker with supplies. :p

It has already begun.

5 years ago.

God speed.

Is this guy crazy, a genius or is he just another Global Warming Prophet like Al Gore?


Same thing as far as I see it...

I can't see sulfur making any huge difference... Instead, we end up with sulfuric acid raid and the whole planet stinks of rotten egg...

Besides, how much sulfur would it require... The surface of the earth is ~510,000,000 square kilometers. I am not sure what percentage they want to pump sulfur into it, but when you think of the amount of energy (and thus green house gasses) that would be required just to mine enough sulfur and then shoot it up there...

For the record: I don't believe in climate change, I still think however it is a good idea to clean the atmosphere up for the sake of public health...

Same thing as far as I see it...

I can't see sulfur making any huge difference... Instead, we end up with sulfuric acid raid and the whole planet stinks of rotten egg...

Besides, how much sulfur would it require... The surface of the earth is ~510,000,000 square kilometers. I am not sure what percentage they want to pump sulfur into it, but when you think of the amount of energy (and thus green house gasses) that would be required just to mine enough sulfur and then shoot it up there...

For the record: I don't believe in climate change, I still think however it is a good idea to clean the atmosphere up for the sake of public health...

thats why he would mix it in all jet fuel. or more exactly refine jet fuel less so the sulfur is not removed form it. cheaper for the airline companies. it is already mined for oil consumption, and the means of delivery is already used for passenger transportation and other things.

Sulfur while a viable solution in certain terms...

...will react with water vapor in the air and combine into sulphuric acid leading into acid rain.

Say hello to:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Acid_rain_woods1.JPG

acid rain is small price to pay for a purple sky
i bet all the girls think it is romantic and getting laid around the world becomes easier.

acid rain is small price to pay for a purple sky
i bet all the girls think it is romantic and getting laid around the world becomes easier.

Yes!!! This is it. Screw acid rain and whatever changes in temperature may happen - if it will be easier getting laid, it will win major public support and at the end world will become more peaceful.

Yes!!! This is it. Screw acid rain and whatever changes in temperature may happen - if it will be easier getting laid, it will win major public support and at the end world will become more peaceful.

Wait... I'm suddenly all for this idea.

The top so called expert on Global Warming in Ozz says we need to pump sulfur into the atmosphere to "dim" the Sun.
...
Is this guy crazy, a genius or is he just another Global Warming Prophet like Al Gore?





In other news the Global Warming Petition Project is still going strong.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/
First, I'd like to point out that every doomsday prediction that ever happened has been wrong. All of them. I don't see why global warming is any different.

Second, this guy IS nuts and that's why he's on the prevention bandwagon, instead of the adaption bandwagon. We aren't going to prevent global warming, since it's a natural and cyclical thing. Let's adapt to it. That's what humans are good at.

Wait... I'm suddenly all for this idea.

the trick is to get men on your side you make it about sex. and to get women on your side you make it about romance.

This right here is the reason why Global Climate alarmism is dangerous.

Limiting pollution is a good thing. We should do that no matter what. Being more efficient is a good thing, we should always strive to do that too. Conservation is a good thing. Always advisable.

This however, is not good. This is what happens when objectivity is thrown by the wayside.

Hello people. This isn't a terribly new idea. It goes back at least as far as the '70s...

It may be a solution, I just don't think we're close enough to understanding what's going on in such a chaotic system or in deep enough trouble to undertake such a drastic step.

Yep. That's a good idea. They can't figure out how to save sand dunes and we're gonna let em control the global climate. Can you say Snowball Earth II? Let me know when they're gonna start so I can load my underground bunker with supplies. :p

Just wait til someone (like myself) brings up iron seeding the oceans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization).... ;)

acid rain is small price to pay for a purple sky
i bet all the girls think it is romantic and getting laid around the world becomes easier.

I am in complete support of this plan.