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And one more murderer never faces trial.

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And one more murderer never faces trial.

A man is dying and your only comment is some snide shot at his past.

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And one more murderer never faces trial.

I thought he committed vehicular manslaughter, not murder. Sheesh, if you're going to take pot shots at the dying, get it right.

And if I'm wrong, pie me in the face.

My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family. Here's hoping for spontaneous remission!

And to the OP: Just as soon as you've dedicated a goodly portion of your life to highly visible public service - the same public service that got both your brothers assassinated - then you can bitch. Until then, STFU. Whether you agree with his politics or not, Senator Kennedy is still a human being who deserves a teeny tiny bit of dignity during these trying times.

A man is dying and your only comment is some snide shot at his past.
Agreed. Teddy is suffering from a condition I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Maybe he'll retire.

Agreed. Teddy is suffering from a condition I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Maybe he'll retire.

God we can only hope.


See, thats so much better then snide comments about a dying man.

Brain tumors are horrid things, just destroy a person before it kills them. I don't care for Ted's politics or personal habits but I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

God we can only hope.


See, thats so much better then snide comments about a dying man.
I'll tell you what... It wasn't even intended to be derogatory.

If I were 76 years old and found out I had a brain tumor, the last thing I'd want to do is work until I died. I'd much rather find something that I could enjoy with the rest of the family I'd leave behind. Hell, even Teddy Kennedy deserves that much.

I'll tell you what... It wasn't even intended to be derogatory.

If I were 76 years old and found out I had a brain tumor, the last thing I'd want to do is work until I died. I'd much rather find something that I could enjoy with the rest of the family I'd leave behind. Hell, even Teddy Kennedy deserves that much.

I agree with you. I do not think you were being derogatory at all. I wish him the best too. I may not agree with him on a lot of issues, but I do not wish him pain or death.

I'll tell you what... It wasn't even intended to be derogatory.

If I were 76 years old and found out I had a brain tumor, the last thing I'd want to do is work until I died. I'd much rather find something that I could enjoy with the rest of the family I'd leave behind. Hell, even Teddy Kennedy deserves that much.

I didnt think you were being derogatory. I hope I didnt come across as such...

I'll tell you what... It wasn't even intended to be derogatory.

If I were 76 years old and found out I had a brain tumor, the last thing I'd want to do is work until I died. I'd much rather find something that I could enjoy with the rest of the family I'd leave behind. Hell, even Teddy Kennedy deserves that much.

He did just get elected again in 2006, so his term is good until 2012. I don't know how Massachusetts replaces a Senator in case one retires or dies in the middle of their term, but I have to believe it's going to be an issue.

Hopefully, he retires and lives out a life in peace; there's no point in stressing himself out even further. But if he really loves his job and thinks he can do it...well, he's a grown man.

He did just get elected again in 2006, so his term is good until 2012. I don't know how Massachusetts replaces a Senator in case one retires or dies in the middle of their term, but I have to believe it's going to be an issue.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24728667

It's in this article towrds the bottom.

Personally, I think Kennedy is one of the biggest dick-wads ever to grace the senate floor but now the foo's got a brain tumor......

DAMN YOU NATURE NOW I CAN'T HATE HIM!!!


*cries*

Well, on the bright side, he may have broken the Kennedy curse of being assassinated, but instead must suffer this excruciating fate.

I think my state is going to have a hard time replacing him, since he's been there forever, and was liked by enough people to be re-elected every time.

Click Stand;13706685']Well, on the bright side, he may have broken the Kennedy curse of being assassinated, but instead must suffer this excruciating fate.

I think my state is going to have a hard time replacing him, since he's been there forever, and was liked by enough people to be re-elected every time.

I'm sure y'all will manage. I mean you did replace Tip O'Neill when he retired...

Personally, I think Kennedy is one of the biggest dick-wads ever to grace the senate floor but now the foo's got a brain tumor......

DAMN YOU NATURE NOW I CAN'T HATE HIM!!!


*cries*
I still hate him. *Laughs*

Maybe he'll retire.

It's what I'd do if I were in his shoes. I'd want to spend whatever time I happened to have left with those who matter the most.

I'm pulling for spontaneous remission, or even just a delay of its progress.

A man is dying and your only comment is some snide shot at his past.

I don't get why the sins of one's life should be washed away by one's impending death.

Not that I know squat about this individual.

NSG is a fickle bunch.

Honestly, while I agree that it's entirely pointless to bring up the man's past deeds (ie: the manslaughter incident), may I remind you all of the collective grave dancing that happened when Falwell died. Not that I didn't do my share, but really, it seems the tone switches depending on who the face of evil is that is suffering.

And no one has a problem with this?

I'm tempted to make some comment on how this tumor must have influenced his politics but I don't know how long he's had it.

may I remind you all of the collective grave dancing that happened when Falwell died.

He died?

Shows how much I pay attention to the US.

He died?

Shows how much I pay attention to the US.

No, it shows you have the attention span of a gold fish, my friend. :) Just kidding.

It happened quite a well ago. Though, I do remember the massive wankfest here.

No, it shows you have the attention span of a gold fish, my friend. :) Just kidding.

It happened quite a well ago. Though, I do remember the massive wankfest here.

There were plenty of us, at the time, who pointed out that the grave dancing was wrong, and not just the conservatives on this forum.

My heart goes out to Teddy's family. They don't deserve any hardships.


As for Teddy himself...





He has to answer for Mary Jo Kopechne.

He still shouldn't have to suffer for it or anything. It's just a shame that he never got prosecuted. I'm not going to go grave dancing though. he has done some good, but he's also done a lot of bad.

There were plenty of us, at the time, who pointed out that the grave dancing was wrong, and not just the conservatives on this forum.

The silent minority. Your posts got buried quickly there under the plethora of mental masturbation.

No, it shows you have the attention span of a gold fish, my friend. :) Just kidding.
No apologies necessary. It's true.

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And one more murderer never faces trial.

Troll.

Dont tell Sean Hannity!!!

God Exists !!!

This is one of the worst ways to die. My thoughts are with him and his family.

Poor man. I have the deepest sympathies for him and his familly, and my thoughts and prayers are with them. However unlikely, I hope for a recovery.

Until then, STFU.

Just who are you exactly to decide when I can speak on a topic?

NSG is a fickle bunch.

Honestly, while I agree that it's entirely pointless to bring up the man's past deeds (ie: the manslaughter incident), may I remind you all of the collective grave dancing that happened when Falwell died. Not that I didn't do my share, but really, it seems the tone switches depending on who the face of evil is that is suffering.

And no one has a problem with this?

I remember well the gravedancing that occured with Reagen as well. The amount of times that hell was referenced with regard to reagen were innumerable that day.

Kennedy is a murderer. Mansluaghter would have been correct had she died on impact, but since he left her alive in the car to drown, that is murder.

Who didnt see that coming? I mean look at the size of his head.

Who didnt see that coming? I mean look at the size of his head.



ROFLMAO!!!! OMG!

/win

Dont tell Sean Hannity!!!

Are you kidding? The FOX pundits probably keep one of those fancy news bunnies with them with it keyed to pick up any news involving "edward kennedy" and "dieing."

I remember well the gravedancing that occured with Reagen as well. The amount of times that hell was referenced with regard to reagen were innumerable that day.

Kennedy is a murderer. Mansluaghter would have been correct had she died on impact, but since he left her alive in the car to drown, that is murder.
Reagan was a douchebag with lasting douchebaggery impact. I have never seen neocon asshats say anything about Kennedy other than that one incident. Had it never happened you people would be spinning in your seats unable to think of some way to defame him other than "Omg Kennedy!'

I really hope they can keep him comfortable. This sucks for his family.

Other than the fact that he is an alcoholic, and his policies and vitriol have left a lasting damage on my nation. Yeah,nothing to dislike there except murder.

I remember well the gravedancing that occured with Reagen as well. The amount of times that hell was referenced with regard to reagen were innumerable that day.


I actually think a bunch of topics and posts got locked and deleted because of the amount of vitriol being poured on.

I really hope they can keep him comfortable. This sucks for his family.

His family could afford to keep God comfortable.

He'll be well taken care of, he's a Kennedy.

Other than the fact that he is an alcoholic,
Irrelevant
and his policies and vitriol have left a lasting damage on my nation.
Name one.

I wonder if the tumor had anything to do with his support of the Pope of Hope, his royal turdness, B. Hussein Obama.

Other than the fact that he is an alcoholic, and his policies and vitriol have left a lasting damage on my nation. Yeah,nothing to dislike there except murder.

Policies such as...

While I'm at it, yeah take that alcoholic person!

I wonder if the tumor had anything to do with his support of the Pope of Hope, his royal turdness, B. Hussein Obama.
So you're just a loser troll. Done.

I wonder if the tumor had anything to do with his support of the Pope of Hope, his royal turdness, B. Hussein Obama.

Gee, all you needed was to have used the phrase "God's Punishment" and you've have sounded like so many Fundie Republican Preachers.

Click Stand;13706685']Well, on the bright side, he may have broken the Kennedy curse of being assassinated, but instead must suffer this excruciating fate.

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Had it never happened you people would be spinning in your seats unable to think of some way to defame him other than "Omg Kennedy!'

But it did happen. I'm not going to say anything else, because I'm going to Run To The Wikipedia and get my facts straight.

...Did I just say what I think I just said?

Anyway, pending further investigation into the event, at the very least he knows what happened on that day. And I'm sure that, and I would extend this benefit of the doubt to anyone with his circumstances regardless of race/sex/political affiliation, it weighs heavily on his heart even to this day. Murder or manslaughter, you don't go through something like that and come out of it without guilt unless you're mentally ill.

So you're just a loser troll. Done.
SO this is what you have, invective, and a superiority complex. Bravo.

But it did happen. I'm not going to say anything else, because I'm going to Run To The Wikipedia and get my facts straight.

My point was it is immaterial to his political work.

SO this is what you have, invective, and a superiority complex. Bravo.
Superior than trolls? Why yes I am.

SO this is what you have, invective, and a superiority complex. Bravo.

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Another American Hero is dying! Hopefully if he has surgery or chemotherapy he will live! He is an important American Hero to be the longest serving senator (9th term) and he is the last Kennedy of a great generation.

Who cares what any of you say I pray he lives!!!:):):)

Irrelevant

Name one.[policy]

Click Stand;13707314']Policies such as...


As I recall, Teddy and GWB collaborated on No Child Left Behind fiasco. That's bad enough.

Just who are you exactly to decide when I can speak on a topic?

Did you not read what i said directly before the bit you quoted? The part where I said that you can cast stones just as soon as you've devoted your life to the very same thing that got your brothers killed - public service - and remained as devoted to your causes and passions as he has, you can gloat all you want about the agonizing death he is facing. (And yes, my mother in law died of meningeal carcinoma. I know what cancer does. It's NOT PRETTY)

I wonder if the tumor had anything to do with his support of the Pope of Hope, his royal turdness, B. Hussein Obama.

Aaaaand we have a winner. You've just proved yourself to be a troll of the highest order.

Aaaaand we have a winner. You've just proved yourself to be a troll of the highest order.
More of a lowest order, since he's not even good at trolling.

As I recall, Teddy and GWB collaborated on No Child Left Behind fiasco. That's bad enough.

Even when he collaborates with the Republicans they villify him. The man cannot win.

Even when he collaborates with the Republicans they villify him. The man cannot win.
Nobody can win when they make bad choices. And I think you've made a bad assumption with your clever quip.

This really should be about Teddy and our hopes for his future (retirement).

I wonder if the tumor had anything to do with his support of the Pope of Hope, his royal turdness, B. Hussein Obama.

Ann Coulter? What are you doing posting on NSG? :rolleyes:

Damn that sucks. I don't particularly like Ted Kennedy, but I wouldn't wish a brain tumor, benign or malignant, on anyone.

SO this is what you have, invective, and a superiority complex. Bravo.

Why respond with substance to posts that lack substance?


All of youve done is:

1. Be snide abou a dying man
2. Cry about how all the mean people were happy when Reagan died
3. Make a rather immautre comment about Obama (which is totally irrelelvent to this thread)


There really isnt much youve said worth responding to. Thus, you are a troll.

Back when I was in high school --- circa 1970 -- we made a trip to Washington, DC to see the government working. Turns out there was a bar in the hotel where we stayed that wasn't too strict on carding kids. One night, while we were hiding in a corner with our bottles of Heinekin, hoping the teacher wouldn't find us, a noisy crowd walked in. One of them was Teddy Kennedy.

Being the good, ignorant, liberal kids that we were, we thought he was something special. So we shyly walked up to the table and told him how much we admired him and his brothers. Got us a handshake and a beer. We watched them for a while longer and to this day, I'm sure I'd still like to sit down and have a drink with Kennedy despite the fact that I don't care for his public side at all.

I guess there's a moral in there, and it probably doesn't say anything good about me. But it's too bad that we can't separate the public and private personae any better than we do.

I've known a couple people who died slowly from brain tumors, including a good friend and one of my grandparents. It's not a fate I would wish on anyone. I sympathize with him and his family and supporters on this issue.

That said...

If you're one of those MoveOn.Orgiast assholes who made stupid jokes about Reagan's Alzheimers influencing his Presidency, THEN you deserve to be strapped to a chair and forced to listen to all the stupid jokes that the Freeper assholes are going to make about Kennedy's brain tumor and his politics.

The rest of us, I'm sure, are tired of hearing from either group of assholes. It wasn't funny then, and it's not funny now.

"Politics and Religion (or the lack thereof): when you absolutely, positively have to turn everybody in the room into a raving hypocrital jerkwad."

(1) Kennedy DID get prosecuted -- he was convicted of leaving the scene of the crime and given a 2 months suspended sentence and lost his driving license for a year.
(2) You're right -- given Jehovah's history, he WOULD wish that congress had one less good person (Ted Kennedy).
(3) It's a shame that a topic about the final year or so of a senator popular among both democrats and republicans is being sidetracked by whining about other politicians.

A man is dying and your only comment is some snide shot at his past.

Yeah, it's not Ted's fault. Her head was trapped under the steering wheel.

Back when I was in high school --- circa 1970 -- we made a trip to Washington, DC to see the government working. Turns out there was a bar in the hotel where we stayed that wasn't too strict on carding kids. One night, while we were hiding in a corner with our bottles of Heinekin, hoping the teacher wouldn't find us, a noisy crowd walked in. One of them was Teddy Kennedy.

Being the good, ignorant, liberal kids that we were, we thought he was something special. So we shyly walked up to the table and told him how much we admired him and his brothers. Got us a handshake and a beer. We watched them for a while longer and to this day, I'm sure I'd still like to sit down and have a drink with Kennedy despite the fact that I don't care for his public side at all.

I guess there's a moral in there, and it probably doesn't say anything good about me. But it's too bad that we can't separate the public and private personae any better than we do.

I would think it shows the respect we have for high ranking public officials who have achieved great goals, whether or not we agree with those goals. I would sit down with Bush and have a conversation, because it's obvious there's something in him that drives him. I think we all understand the power of public office, and hold in high regard those who use it.

I mentioned Bush and didn't crack a joke. W00t.

He did just get elected again in 2006, so his term is good until 2012. I don't know how Massachusetts replaces a Senator in case one retires or dies in the middle of their term, but I have to believe it's going to be an issue.

Hopefully, he retires and lives out a life in peace; there's no point in stressing himself out even further. But if he really loves his job and thinks he can do it...well, he's a grown man.

There's no remission from a glioblastoma. This diagnosis is a death sentence barring some pretty miraculous new research.

NSG is a fickle bunch.

Honestly, while I agree that it's entirely pointless to bring up the man's past deeds (ie: the manslaughter incident), may I remind you all of the collective grave dancing that happened when Falwell died. Not that I didn't do my share, but really, it seems the tone switches depending on who the face of evil is that is suffering.

And no one has a problem with this?

It happened quite a well ago. Though, I do remember the massive wankfest here.

Oh please. You remember selectively.

There were plenty of us, at the time, who pointed out that the grave dancing was wrong, and not just the conservatives on this forum.

You mean like this?

Everybody has relatives, and those who truly know and love Reverend Falwell are in mourning now. That is nothing over which to rejoice.

True, he did speak out for and on behalf of a certain brand of faith, and that faith included many ideas that divided this nation, and continue to divide it.

That said, I think the net result of the things you say and do is what matters. And while his right to freedom of speech was certainly well used, and rightly so, the things he said were incredibly hateful, spiteful, divisive and at least very, VERY presumptuous. Anyone claiming to speak for God had better be 100% sure -- and I have no doubt that he believed he was. Those who rationalize have no better example than televangelists.

But imagine that you're a homosexual, a regular, peaceful Muslim, a woman who wanted something different (notice I didn't say "better") than to be a housewife -- the things Reverend Falwell said about all of those groups and more, tarring them liberally with the same, hopelessly inaccurate brush, would wound you to your very core. That's not love. That's malice – premeditated malice. And folks, when that gets visited in the form of a crime, we punish it. He may have condemned the shooting of doctors who perform abortions, but he also inflamed the sensibilities of some who have done just that.

He may have condemned murder, but he bragged about helping launch the war in Iraq with the notion that "God is Pro-war". War is murder, writ large.

Am I glad Reverend Falwell is dead? Of course not. However, am I glad that his personal voice, which spread a twisted gospel of exclusion, division, fear and hate, is silenced?

Yes. Yes I am.

Do I think for a minute that this will have any affect on the aforementioned spread? Not a whit. There are many to take his place, and his image will be used as a quasi-martyr standard behind which the faithful will be called to rally...and give money...and vote.

Marx was wrong about organized religion. It isn't the opiate of the masses, it's the cyanide.

Faith is not the problem; it's how faith, through the abuse of religious hucksters, gets perverted. Reverend Falwell was a master of such manipulation. There will be more....

I didn't like the man, but that didn't give me license to do the Watusi on his grave. I presented my opinion of the man's work without trashing him or bellittling his passing. Why is that so hard to do? When you claim that all of NSG danced on Falwell's or Reagan's graves as justification for shuffling feet on Kennedy's is weak sauce, especially when there were many who did nothing of the sort.

As for Ted Kennedy, nine terms means you're doing something right combined with political habituation -- the same goes for Jesse Helms or Strom Thurmond or Robert Byrd. Voices of extended experience should not be the majority in my opinion, but they are indeed necessary to the overall wisdom of any governing body, if only for perspective and historical reference.

Back when I was in high school --- circa 1970 -- we made a trip to Washington, DC to see the government working. Turns out there was a bar in the hotel where we stayed that wasn't too strict on carding kids. One night, while we were hiding in a corner with our bottles of Heinekin, hoping the teacher wouldn't find us, a noisy crowd walked in. One of them was Teddy Kennedy.

Being the good, ignorant, liberal kids that we were, we thought he was something special. So we shyly walked up to the table and told him how much we admired him and his brothers. Got us a handshake and a beer. We watched them for a while longer and to this day, I'm sure I'd still like to sit down and have a drink with Kennedy despite the fact that I don't care for his public side at all.

I guess there's a moral in there, and it probably doesn't say anything good about me. But it's too bad that we can't separate the public and private personae any better than we do.

Impressive post, Myrmi. I agree completely.

Yeah, it's not Ted's fault. Her head was trapped under the steering wheel.

A cheap shot on Ted Kennedy by Kimchi. There's a shocker.

:rolleyes:

His family could afford to keep God comfortable.

He'll be well taken care of, he's a Kennedy.

I meant I hope the doctors can spare him some pain and suffering. It sucks for his family because it sucks when a family member is dying slowly and painfully.

A cheap shot on Ted Kennedy by Kimchi. There's a shocker.

:rolleyes:

There's nothing wrong with what I posted, because it's true.

I dont like Ted Kennedy much, however-I wouldnt wish this on anyone.

He is well loved and respected by his family and community, they will be losing someone thats an icon to them.

And he has to live with this uncertain time frame death sentence.

All the money and power in the world wont help him much now.

I wish him the best and hope he can maintain some dignity and spend some meaningful time with his family before he is gone.

It sucks for his family because it sucks when a family member is dying slowly and painfully.

Oh I'm sure they kinda expect it by now. They're Kennedy's, after all.

There's nothing wrong with what I posted, because it's true.


The mere fact that you posted indicates that - much like material which emanates from the anus - while it may not always be shite, its certainly a suspect substance of some unseemly type or other.

The car happened to be upside down.

..from the trial, from a description by one of the divers.
http://www.ytedk.com/waterlevel.htm

Apparently they are suggesting chemo and radiation. Harsh times ahead for him.

I feel sorry for his family.

I personally don't know too much about him. I know I didn't agree with some of his policies but I don't think he deserves all of the hate being thrown at him.


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Deep Kimchi was the first person I thought of when I heard about this and expected similar comments. I win... or something.
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I agree he doesnt deserve the hate.

It appears there are many many people that love the guy.

He has just had his priorities permanently adjusted.

O he made a terrible fuck up allright, no denying. But beyond that incident, there are far more worthy of kicking on their way down....