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After some rather bad happenings, I thought I should make it public that both EA games and Blizzard have proven to be the most powerful useless A-hole companies in the known world

For EA games, their part was that while playing Battlefield 2 i joined a server that the owner had modified it to boost his stats and give free badges and things to his account, and when I joined it changed my stats as well.
I left the server because with only 3 other players in it, there was no reason to play, and a couple days later, my account gets wiped and EA games only explanation went along the lines of "you were in a server that tampered with your stats, blah blah, to prevent unfair blah blah, we have reset your account

After alot of email to and from EA, they accepted that I didn't do it on purpose, but with typical capitalist efficiency, magically had no back-up of my account, and refused to actually just remove the things I wrongly gained on that day from the current save they had of my account, and after more email frenzy, they make up a 2-minute replacement of about 20% of what my account used to have


For Blizzard's part, I played World of Warcraft, saved up a bucketload of cash in game, and went to the auctions to grab better gear and sell some old stuff
I put 2 items up for auction for a total of 15 silver, and buy 2 other items for about 85 silver
I didnt get the 2 bought items, and when I changed my mind about the 2 i wanted to sell, i couldnt get them back

After messaging Blizzard, they claim to have NO record of either the bought or sold items


Either way, EA and Blizzard have shown how completely useless capitalist corporations are, when any 1st year computer course newbie knows the rule of always making back-ups of things, and keeping records of things, and yet these multi-million dollar companies have done nothing


For Blizzard, I can dig at legal issues, since I am paying for an online account fee, so it goes near laws regarding consumer guarantees, but since EA games/battlefield 2 is just regular internet gaming, Ill just have to look for someone fluent in programing who is willing to make some evil virus I can send to EA - if any of you out there can make an evil computer virus, I am very willing to $pay$ you to do it

Haha, stop acting so butt hurt. I don't see what this has to do with capitalism though.

HAHAHA!! Pwned!

Did they guarantee an account backup or guarantee as part of your registration and monthly fees? If not, quit whining because you agreed to those terms when you signed up. They have absolutely no responsibility to guarantee what happens in-game, and if they did you certainly wouldn't be paying anywhere as low a fee as you currently do.

1) so you altered the stats, didn't tell the mods or whatever and then somehow thought you was in the wrong when they deleted your account? I'm confused on this one

2) what did you learn?

For Blizzard, I can dig at legal issues, since I am paying for an online account fee, so it goes near laws regarding consumer guarantees

No, you cant.


Your understanding of customer garuntees is about as limited as your understanding of...well...everything else.

After some rather bad happenings, I thought I should make it public that both EA games and Blizzard have proven to be the most powerful useless A-hole companies in the known world

For EA games, their part was that while playing Battlefield 2 i joined a server that the owner had modified it to boost his stats and give free badges and things to his account, and when I joined it changed my stats as well.
I left the server because with only 3 other players in it, there was no reason to play, and a couple days later, my account gets wiped and EA games only explanation went along the lines of "you were in a server that tampered with your stats, blah blah, to prevent unfair blah blah, we have reset your account

After alot of email to and from EA, they accepted that I didn't do it on purpose, but with typical capitalist efficiency, magically had no back-up of my account, and refused to actually just remove the things I wrongly gained on that day from the current save they had of my account, and after more email frenzy, they make up a 2-minute replacement of about 20% of what my account used to have


For Blizzard's part, I played World of Warcraft, saved up a bucketload of cash in game, and went to the auctions to grab better gear and sell some old stuff
I put 2 items up for auction for a total of 15 silver, and buy 2 other items for about 85 silver
I didnt get the 2 bought items, and when I changed my mind about the 2 i wanted to sell, i couldnt get them back

After messaging Blizzard, they claim to have NO record of either the bought or sold items


Either way, EA and Blizzard have shown how completely useless capitalist corporations are, when any 1st year computer course newbie knows the rule of always making back-ups of things, and keeping records of things, and yet these multi-million dollar companies have done nothing


For Blizzard, I can dig at legal issues, since I am paying for an online account fee, so it goes near laws regarding consumer guarantees, but since EA games/battlefield 2 is just regular internet gaming, Ill just have to look for someone fluent in programing who is willing to make some evil virus I can send to EA - if any of you out there can make an evil computer virus, I am very willing to $pay$ you to do itYou want Blizzard to keep track of every AH transaction, successful or not? Do you know how much fucking data that would be? It may not be much to record one transaction, but there are several thousand transactions per day per server and 30ish servers. That would build up quickly. Also, AH gives you fair warning that you can't get your shit back once you put it up for sale. That is the whole point of fucking selling shit....

You should feel lucky about getting anything back at all. You were caught cheating (even if inadvertently) and only have your word to prove that you never intended to do so.

You want Blizzard to keep track of every AH transaction, successful or not? Do you know how much fucking data that would be? It may not be much to record one transaction, but there are several thousand transactions per day per server and 30ish servers. That would build up quickly. Also, AH gives you fair warning that you can't get your shit back once you put it up for sale. That is the whole point of fucking selling shit....

You should feel lucky about getting anything back at all. You were caught cheating (even if inadvertently) and only have your word to prove that you never intended to do so.

Actually there's over 100 servers. Thousands of transactions every day. AH, trade, mail. Every server probably has 10,000 transactions daily on it.

okay so youre saying that because I join a server that i didnt know was altered that its my fault that my account got altered, thats like standing on a landmine you didnt know was there and the guy who put it there blames you for standing on it

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day
As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back

and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is

You should read the EULA before acknowledging that you accept its terms.

okay so youre saying that because I join a server that i didnt know was altered that its my fault that my account got altered, thats like standing on a landmine you didnt know was there and the guy who put it there blames you for standing on it

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day
As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back

and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is

I don't mean to sounds antagonising, but why the fuck did you pay money to EA/Blizzard in the first place you fucking capitalist scum. Play indie, get pirate copies etc. if you want to have a moral high-ground:p

We Do Not Care About The Consumer As Long As It Pays.

okay so youre saying that because I join a server that i didnt know was altered that its my fault that my account got altered, thats like standing on a landmine you didnt know was there and the guy who put it there blames you for standing on it

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day
As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back

and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is

How petty.

okay so youre saying that because I join a server that i didnt know was altered that its my fault that my account got altered, thats like standing on a landmine you didnt know was there and the guy who put it there blames you for standing on it

one word: tough

this is how internet sites work and it works well hell I think if your getting crabby about this you should check out the NS policy you agreed (rumor has it that you officially renounce your citizenship)

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day
As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back

no it won't because nobody cares about your problems what with all the sticking captions to pictures of cats

and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is

aren't you like half German? (yes its ignorant but living in a glass house much?)

okay so youre saying that because I join a server that i didnt know was altered that its my fault that my account got altered, thats like standing on a landmine you didnt know was there and the guy who put it there blames you for standing on itIsn't that what punkbuster is there for? I haven't played BF2 in a while, but I'd imagine that there's some means of telling what servers change your stats.

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day
As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back:rolleyes:
and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is
I'm pretty sure a number of the people that posted here are British.

okay so youre saying that because I join a server that i didnt know was altered that its my fault that my account got altered, thats like standing on a landmine you didnt know was there and the guy who put it there blames you for standing on it

A landmine is an excruciatingly painful weapon and will probably kill you. This is a videogame. This is more like you not checking this out before you joined; if I've learned anything, it's always look before you leap.

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back

And go to jail. IT IS JUST A COMPUTER GAME. IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL.

and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is

Yes, your whining over World of Warcraft is clearly comparable to the thousands of Americans who gave their lives defending their country and fighting for its independence.

Go outside. Seriously.

You think that's bad? Try canceling a subscription to Everquest. You'll think it's canceled only to have them charge you for(in my case anyway) another three months of service hits its run-out date. I had to spend two hours on their customer service phone line before I finally got it fully canceled.

You think that's bad? Try canceling a subscription to Everquest. You'll think it's canceled only to have them charge you for(in my case anyway) another three months of service hits its run-out date. I had to spend two hours on their customer service phone line before I finally got it fully canceled.

That's what you get for playing Evercrack.

*struggles to find sense*

*struggles to find sense*

You're unlikely to find any from Kirch...

why a virus.. make a game.

If you need a developer contact me

intracircumcordei@yahoo.ca

why a virus.. make a game.

If you need a developer contact me

intracircumcordei@yahoo.ca

Amen brother. Indie games ftw.

This isn't exactly that big of a deal really. Did you lose any real money on this game due to these incidents? I doubt it. There are much bigger problems in the world.

I don't mean to sounds antagonising, but why the fuck did you pay money to EA/Blizzard in the first place you fucking capitalist scum. Play indie, get pirate copies etc. if you want to have a moral high-ground:p

well, because of the BS that EA and Blizzard dish out, I have already planned to grab EVERY new game from russian download websites

God Bless the russians and their lack of computer game copyright laws:D
Its not stealing if you get it from a country that says it doesn't count

Has anyone figured out what this has to do with capitalism yet?

and you americans cant complain about revenge issues, its what made your nation into what it is

So, in short, going off pissing for revenge makes you the best. No downside. :D

Has anyone figured out what this has to do with capitalism yet?

I don't think it has jack shit to do with capitalism. This guy is probably just a rampant commie and is using any excuse to slam on the opposing system. Go figure.

I don't think it has jack shit to do with capitalism. This guy is probably just a rampant commie and is using any excuse to slam on the opposing system. Go figure.

I thought as much. Bad things happened, blame the evil capitalist scum! He's like Andaras, except he uses smaller words.

God Bless the russians and their lack of computer game copyright laws:D
Its not stealing if you get it from a country that says it doesn't count

False. It's not stealing if you get it in a country without relevant copy-write laws, and it is illegal to bring copy-written material acquired thusly into a country with the relevant copy-write laws.

IE: I can download unlicensed anime from Japan, because they're not licensed here. I cannot ever take my external HD to Japan, as it can be legally confiscated for having copies of licensed (in Japan) anime that was not legally purchased in Japan.

So.

No, you may not illegally download games from Russian websites. You are able to, certainly, but you can be legally prosecuted for it if someone cares enough.

Also, producing and/or knowingly distributing a computer virus is a federal offense in the US and the UK, and probably Australia as well, and I'm fairly certain there's an international law concerning computer viruses between them.

So, after you distribute some virus to EA games, they will spend several thousand dollars suing the shyte out of you, and in the process your HDD will probably be confiscated by the police, at which time a number of illegally obtained games will be found on your HDD, and EA will probably jump at the chance to sue you for even more money, and I wouldn't be surprised if any other game companies take notice and also take the opportunity to express their distaste with your activities.

So.

Have fun in prison and in debt for the rest of your life.

I thought as much. Bad things happened, blame the evil capitalist scum! He's like Andaras, except he uses smaller words.

And doesn't use "bourgeois" ever other sentense.

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So, after you distribute some virus to EA games, they will spend several thousand dollars suing the shyte out of you, and in the process your HDD will probably be confiscated by the police, at which time a number of illegally obtained games will be found on your HDD, and EA will probably jump at the chance to sue you for even more money, and I wouldn't be surprised if any other game companies take notice and also take the opportunity to express their distaste with your activities.



all that only if they catch me

I plan to move to another country soon, and I can just pop the virus through a computer cafe just before I go to the airport

and as for the games, as long as they dont know i have them, they cant do anything

all that only if they catch me

I plan to move to another country soon, and I can just pop the virus through a computer cafe just before I go to the airport

and as for the games, as long as they dont know i have them, they cant do anything

Yeah, the rule of law is strictly for those capitalist pigs. After all, they asked for it by expecting you to comply with rules you previously agreed to comply with.

all that only if they catch me

I plan to move to another country soon, and I can just pop the virus through a computer cafe just before I go to the airport

and as for the games, as long as they dont know i have them, they cant do anything

Weakling. A real man would challenge their CEO to Thunderdome. *nod*

Weakling. A real man would challenge their CEO to Thunderdome. *nod*

Amen.


TO THE THUNDERDOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

goody, I fight some old fart corporate suit

do you really think some pencil pushing desk monkey would have a chance in a thunderdome match when ive had self defense training, and know several ways to cripple/kill with minimal effort

If i win, it will be just so sad that I took out an old guy who never had a chance, so i lose the moral victory:headbang:

goody, I fight some old fart corporate suit

do you really think some pencil pushing desk monkey would have a chance in a thunderdome match when ive had self defense training, and know several ways to cripple/kill with minimal effort

If i win, it will be just so sad that I took out an old guy who never had a chance, so i lose the moral victory:headbang:

That's not how Thunderdome works. You don't fight the guy in charge. You fight his paid muscle.

goody, I fight some old fart corporate suit

do you really think some pencil pushing desk monkey would have a chance in a thunderdome match when ive had self defense training, and know several ways to cripple/kill with minimal effort

If i win, it will be just so sad that I took out an old guy who never had a chance, so i lose the moral victory:headbang:

You don't fight him, you fight his champion fighter.

Awww, and here I thought this would be an Andaras-esque long rant on the glory of the proletariat revolution against their evil bourgeois masters...

Raaar. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Adbusters_NY_Billboard.jpg)

Awww, and here I thought this would be an Andaras-esque long rant on the glory of the proletariat revolution against their evil bourgeois masters...

Agreed. This thread disappoints on multiple levels.

all that only if they catch me

Because it's not like you haven't declared it several times already somewhere...

I plan to move to another country soon, and I can just pop the virus through a computer cafe just before I go to the airport

Because no one has ever thought to do that before. Nope. That's not a typical hacker strategy at all. Nope. Never.

and as for the games, as long as they dont know i have them, they cant do anything

Because it's not like you haven't declared it already blah blah.

Also, see what I said before: computer virus -> confiscation of electronics -> illegal shyte on your shyte.

And before you go off on how you'll get away and whatnot, remember that EA has many thousands of dollars in a budget specifically dedicated to suing the crap out of people who try to screw them over; airports have several thousands of dollars in a budget specifically dedicated to keeping itself secure, which includes monitoring computer traffic, keeping their own computers free of viruses and other malware, and preventing people from doing illegal things on their computers; governments have several thousand dollars in a budget dedicated to find and prosecute malevolent hackers and programmers; and I do not have several thousand dollars in a budget dedicated to anything, but I am smarter than you.

Raaar. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Adbusters_NY_Billboard.jpg)

pffft...Communist Propaganda.

and for the EA/Blizzard "no guarantees" policy, well, as long as there are hackers and crackers out there with the power to help me do bad things to EA/Blizzard, revenge will come one day
As long as i have a heartbeat, I will have the desire to strike back

Holy crap dude! get over it! It's a freaking video game! It's not like EA/Blizzard killed your first born son (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1xSTG6bHjGA)...

For Blizzard, I can dig at legal issues, since I am paying for an online account fee, so it goes near laws regarding consumer guarantees, but since EA games/battlefield 2 is just regular internet gaming, Ill just have to look for someone fluent in programing who is willing to make some evil virus I can send to EA - if any of you out there can make an evil computer virus, I am very willing to $pay$ you to do it

That sounds so sincere, I'm rather amazed your thread still exists.

No-one seems to be taking you seriously ... so I'll do likewise.

pffft...Communist Propaganda.
You can tell it's communist because of the second logo from the top left.
Holy crap dude! get over it! It's a freaking video game! It's not like EA/Blizzard killed your first born son (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1xSTG6bHjGA)...

Damn, I knew that guy..

Stop comparing this guy to Andaras. Anyone who knows his posting history should know better. Andaras is not a racist, hate mongering anti-semite. And Andaras can at least hold his own in a debate.

This thread is useless

Stop comparing this guy to Andaras. Anyone who knows his posting history should know better. Andaras is not a racist, hate mongering anti-semite. And Andaras can at least hold his own in a debate.

Can he? That's news to me.

Stop comparing this guy to Andaras. Anyone who knows his posting history should know better. Andaras is not a racist, hate mongering anti-semite. And Andaras can at least hold his own in a debate.
What's your definition of "hold his own?"

What's your definition of "hold his own?"

Must be something like "can skilfully ignore all sense and repeat a mantra ad nausea".

Stop comparing this guy to Andaras. Anyone who knows his posting history should know better. Andaras is not a racist, hate mongering anti-semite. And Andaras can at least hold his own in a debate.

I didn't mean anything like that, I just thought this thread would be a Communist rant.

Yes, it's all Capitalism's fault.

So go play in a Communist game where you'll find none of these problems.

It's more what the consumer has and is willing to give up, which is important to the corporate capitalist scum. Interestingly, you were in league with those same scum when you decided to use to their products. So maybe you aren't corporate...

Can he? That's news to me.

Must be something like "can skilfully ignore all sense and repeat a mantra ad nausea".

Andaras has improved immeasurably in the last few months.

But, you know, if your self-respect cannot cope with other posters going from being boring, repetitive and confrontational to actually debating ... if your "good opinion once lost, is lost forever" ... if your self-respect depends on keeping down those you look down on ...

Then just repeat after me: "I AM A BULLY"

And I am. :mad:

Andaras has improved immeasurably in the last few months.Improved with what, exactly? I have yet to see him recant some of the abysmally ignorant things he's said. Any improvement on debating style itself is rather hollow without that.

Andaras has improved immeasurably in the last few months.

But, you know, if your self-respect cannot cope with other posters going from being boring, repetitive and confrontational to actually debating ... if your "good opinion once lost, is lost forever" ... if your self-respect depends on keeping down those you look down on ...

Then just repeat after me: "I AM A BULLY"

And I am. :mad:

I beg your pardon?

Progress from always wilfully ignorant to most of the time wilfully ignorant doesn't really qualify as sufficient improvement. When I will have seen evidence of a coherent post from Andaras which will be in line with reality rather than his Marxist cosmology I will concede that he can argue. Until then, all he can do is emulate a broken propaganda phonograph.

After some rather bad happenings, I thought I should make it public that both EA games and Blizzard have proven to be the most powerful useless A-hole companies in the known world

Video games are Serious Business.