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Ok, so I just got finished with a meeting that determined whether or not I should return to my school after I had just been suspended for possession of marijuana. The problem with this meeting, although they are allowing me to return, is that both my family and the school staff (As well as the third party which conducted the meeting) all believe that I have a bigger problem then just smoking weed. Now i'll admit, I've done other drugs, but I try them I don't stick with them. Last time I did another drug was X which was about a month ago, and that was the only extra thing i've done this year.

So this issue is whether or not people really do believe Marijuana is the problem people make it out to be, the real reason they think I have such a problem is because I have no work ethic...which I had before even smoking for the first time.

Opinions, please on whether or not you truely believe marijuana (And if you've never tried it then your opinion for me cannot be taken seriously) is as harmful a substance as the many others out there that I or anyone who smokes weed regularly could be addicted to...lets just throw out meth or instance?

EDIT - And I know, marijuana discussions are prevelent here but this is a direct question. Compare say Weed and the more harmful substances...at least harmful in my opinion...has anyone ever seen evidence the weed can do as much damage as the other substances?

No, marijuana isn't a problem - in fact, I believe that alcohol is far more of a problem (I think marijuana should be legalized, and commercially produced).

Sounds like you have a work ethic/motivation problem. If you were able to smoke weed and be very productive, I'm sure a lot of people would leave you alone about your weed smoking.

I wouldn't recommend trying meth - I've seen it destroy people in short order. Utterly. It would be quicker to suck-start a shotgun.

No, marijuana isn't a problem - in fact, I believe that alcohol is far more of a problem (I think marijuana should be legalized, and commercially produced).

Sounds like you have a work ethic/motivation problem. If you were able to smoke weed and be very productive, I'm sure a lot of people would leave you alone about your weed smoking.

I wouldn't recommend trying meth - I've seen it destroy people in short order. Utterly. It would be quicker to suck-start a shotgun.

But the funny thing about this whole situation was that I have a job, and I'm very motivated when it comes to that. But with school I just don't care, the shit feels pointless almost...

But the funny thing about this whole situation was that I have a job, and I'm very motivated when it comes to that. But with school I just don't care, the shit feels pointless almost...

Then stop going to school - see where that gets you.

Studies show that your future earnings are more tightly tied to your final level of education by age 22 than anything else - if you don't mind having crap wages for the rest of your life, then fine, quit school.

Want to have a job where you can f-off half of every day, have all the fun you want and not be bothered? Then get a great education, and a great job, and it will happen.

Then stop going to school - see where that gets you.

Studies show that your future earnings are more tightly tied to your final level of education by age 22 than anything else - if you don't mind having crap wages for the rest of your life, then fine, quit school.

Want to have a job where you can f-off half of every day, have all the fun you want and not be bothered? Then get a great education, and a great job, and it will happen.

no, im about to graduate...only a few credits off and that'll be done once this school years over, and im still passing my classes. Its just homework doesn't intrest me at all, i'll complete the test with flying colors but throw me twenty papers so I can prepare for something im confident I can pass just seems pointless...

no, im about to graduate...only a few credits off and that'll be done once this school years over, and im still passing my classes. Its just homework doesn't intrest me at all, i'll complete the test with flying colors but throw me twenty papers so I can prepare for something im confident I can pass just seems pointless...

try working for a consulting company sometime - yes, most of it is boring, pointless, and a waste of time - but the pay is terrific and that covers a lot of partying.

what was you doing bringing marijuana to school? idiot everyone will bum it

Last time I did another drug was X which was about a month ago, and that was the only extra thing i've done this year.

dammit do something harder so I don't feel like a failure!

But with school I just don't care, the shit feels pointless almost...

welcome to learning :)

no, im about to graduate...only a few credits off and that'll be done once this school years over, and im still passing my classes. Its just homework doesn't intrest me at all, i'll complete the test with flying colors but throw me twenty papers so I can prepare for something im confident I can pass just seems pointless...

Hotwife's point is to continue your education. You can merely pass a test or you can ace them. Mediocrity should NOT be your goal.

Hotwife's point is to continue your education. You can merely pass a test or you can ace them. Mediocrity should NOT be your goal.

Case in point - when people think you're the God of Software Development, you get paid 250 dollars an hour just to give advice, or putter with some code for a bit, and then "work from home" for a lot of "hours". Get paid to travel to foreign countries to "work fucking miracles".

As for the "mediocre" or "ordinary" developer, they get 80 hours a week of slavery, and an asshole manager who in the end, will call me to unfuck everything.

SNIP

bollocks, just staying in education for the sake of it instead of training only ends with you in debt

sure if you want to be a doctor or something but employers will be more interested in any experience you have

Case in point - when people think you're the God of Software Development, you get paid 250 dollars an hour just to give advice, or putter with some code for a bit, and then "work from home" for a lot of "hours". Get paid to travel to foreign countries to "work fucking miracles".

As for the "mediocre" or "ordinary" developer, they get 80 hours a week of slavery, and an asshole manager who in the end, will call me to unfuck everything.

I see you have experience in IT. This pretty much covers it.

what was you doing bringing marijuana to school?
well...it actually was the ONE time out of the hundreds of times I left for lunch to smoke that I just brought it and took a walk...that one time I got caught and I feel like an idiot so =-P....

dammit do something harder so I don't feel like a failure!

well shit i've done other things, just this year I did the X for one of my brothers DnB shows...I've had free lines of coke before, fun but would not want to really do it again. Nothing with needles...fuck that strait up..

Nothing with needles...fuck that strait up..

You're not a total lost cause.

well...it actually was the ONE time out of the hundreds of times I left for lunch to smoke that I just brought it and took a walk...that one time I got caught and I feel like an idiot so =-P....

next time just throw it over a fence or any other way you can kill the evidence that way you don't get the hassle of records and such

call to power does not in anyway condone breaking the law however school was school

well shit i've done other things, just this year I did the X for one of my brothers DnB shows...

eww drum and bass

I've had free lines of coke before, fun but would not want to really do it again.

well yeah it hardly gives you a healthy look

edit:
You're not a total lost cause.

*sigh*

You're not a total lost cause.

I never thought I was...although I am when it comes to ciggerette's, addicted or not I just love to smoke 'em.

I never thought I was...although I am when it comes to ciggerette's, addicted or not I just love to smoke 'em.

don't you see:

not liking school = your a failure!

don't you see:

not liking school = your a failure!

ouch...well, eh I got nothin...

the problem is being stupid enough to bring anything illegal to school.

so finish the year, graduate, work for a while and evaluate what you want to do with your life.

don't you see:

not liking school = your a failure!

Actually, not understanding the power of education equals not accomplishing your life's dreams. You don't have to like school but showing up stoned does not seem to have done him any good either.

Actually, not understanding the power of education equals not accomplishing your life's dreams.

what are you on with this...seriously :p

you do what you want to do with your life regardless of what that is

You don't have to like school but showing up stoned does not seem to have done him any good either.

living however will

But the funny thing about this whole situation was that I have a job, and I'm very motivated when it comes to that. But with school I just don't care, the shit feels pointless almost...

Is it high school? I couldn't get motivated to save my life in high school but in college I can't find enough to occupy me.
The difference seems to be that in college you genuinely are there to learn something and are there because you want to be there, as opposed to high school where they seem to want to teach following rules more than actually teaching you something worth while. So I definitely sympathize if you can't feel motivated with school if it's high school. If it's college my advice would be to try switching majors or find something that doesn't require a college degree.
Besides, give the Republicans enough time in office and all the jobs in this country will be the sort of jobs that don't require a college education =P

As for the drug debate, I don't think marijuana is the problem at all. As with all drugs and alcohol, I believe it's the level of indulgence and a mix of addiction and will power. Although I've never done drugs or smoked so I admit I don't know too much about the addiction.
Only addiction I've dealt with lately was World of Warcraft, and even then after not touching it for only two days it suddenly became very easy to ignore it. So I don't know if the same thing would work with drugs or not, but with WoW I just told myself my goals (in this case passing school) and how much easier not playing WoW would make achieving those goals. Of course all this is assuming you both have an addiction to marijuana and a desire to break that addiction.

Can marijuana be a problem ?? Yes. so can anything.
here is my view on it if you get caught at work(you case school) with alcohol on you would it not be a likely possibility you have a drinking problem ?? but then again i never had a marijuana problem but i loved to smoke pot at school back in the day. So weather you have a marijuana problem is something i cant say with out knowing you.

though to be honest I can't say. I know right now you seem interested in work more so then school, it is a possibility your ADD. you can see the gain of work in weekly pay checks, but not the long term benefit of school. Hence why your prone to disregard school.

I prescribe adderall 30mg twice daily once at breakfast and again at lunch.

Ive smoked weed a few times, and to me it just seems your family really don't understand what its like, a lot of people still have the old fashioned view of marijuana making you go crazy, seeing visions and all that, but anyone who's tried it knows thats not the case.

I say just tell them the truth and hope for the best, theres no point lying and saying you're addicted, and theres no point denying that you've taken it either.

Ok, so I just got finished with a meeting that determined whether or not I should return to my school after I had just been suspended for possession of marijuana. The problem with this meeting, although they are allowing me to return, is that both my family and the school staff (As well as the third party which conducted the meeting) all believe that I have a bigger problem then just smoking weed. Now i'll admit, I've done other drugs, but I try them I don't stick with them. Last time I did another drug was X which was about a month ago, and that was the only extra thing i've done this year.

So this issue is whether or not people really do believe Marijuana is the problem people make it out to be, the real reason they think I have such a problem is because I have no work ethic...which I had before even smoking for the first time.

Opinions, please on whether or not you truely believe marijuana (And if you've never tried it then your opinion for me cannot be taken seriously) is as harmful a substance as the many others out there that I or anyone who smokes weed regularly could be addicted to...lets just throw out meth or instance?

EDIT - And I know, marijuana discussions are prevelent here but this is a direct question. Compare say Weed and the more harmful substances...at least harmful in my opinion...has anyone ever seen evidence the weed can do as much damage as the other substances?

The issue, to me, is not drugs. The issue is self control. I used drugs while at college, but I never let the use of such interfere with my life. I partied. but I also knew when it was time to stay home and study hard for my tests. I hanged out with friends, but also knew when to stay home or hit the library for a turn-paper. I graduated from my BA Magna Cum Laude and Cum Laude from my first MA. It's all in how well you balance your party self and your responsible self. If you let drugs rule your life, then that's when you truly have a problem.

Can marijuana be a problem ?? Yes. so can anything.
here is my view on it if you get caught at work(you case school) with alcohol on you would it not be a likely possibility you have a drinking problem ?? but then again i never had a marijuana problem but i loved to smoke pot at school back in the day. So weather you have a marijuana problem is something i cant say with out knowing you.

though to be honest I can't say. I know right now you seem interested in work more so then school, it is a possibility your ADD. you can see the gain of work in weekly pay checks, but not the long term benefit of school. Hence why your prone to disregard school.

I prescribe adderall 30mg twice daily once at breakfast and again at lunch.

oooo....adderall, the things you can do with adderall man. I can sell that shit like hotcakes, im no drug dealer but just the mention will get people to want it.

And I was diagnosed with ADD...but shit who the fuck wasn't? I've seen effects when even weed's become the problem, I got a buddy who is a complete fiend when it comes down to it. Say I myself purchase a half an ounce to smoke, now alone or with other friends we smoke slow and steady every now again as we play some games or something we'll toke a bowl or roll a blunt but when I hang with this fiend dude he practically begs, acting as though my weed or anyone else's who happens to have some is his weed and he wants it all smoked right then and there. Its funny, this guy tries to give me advise on life even trying to advise me on this current situation and yet this guy lives with his mom and relies on her money not having a job of his own. He acts more like weed it crack then the simple plant it is, so I understand the differences in states of mind.

Pot's not that big a deal, though I personally wouldn't take it. Its the stuff that some dealers spike it with, such as meth, that makes it so dangerous now. Meth generally adicts you in 1-2 tries, or so I've heard.

Your question shouldn't be whether marijuana is equally bad or even worse than other drugs, it should be whether or not it is bad for you, period. You don't go around saying "Well, having a horse step on my hand is not (nearly) as bad as getting run over by an 18-wheeler, so yeah, I'll go and get my hand stepped on regularly from now on", either, do you?

Ok, so I just got finished with a meeting that determined whether or not I should return to my school after I had just been suspended for possession of marijuana. The problem with this meeting, although they are allowing me to return, is that both my family and the school staff (As well as the third party which conducted the meeting) all believe that I have a bigger problem then just smoking weed. Now i'll admit, I've done other drugs, but I try them I don't stick with them. Last time I did another drug was X which was about a month ago, and that was the only extra thing i've done this year.

So this issue is whether or not people really do believe Marijuana is the problem people make it out to be, the real reason they think I have such a problem is because I have no work ethic...which I had before even smoking for the first time.

Opinions, please on whether or not you truely believe marijuana (And if you've never tried it then your opinion for me cannot be taken seriously) is as harmful a substance as the many others out there that I or anyone who smokes weed regularly could be addicted to...lets just throw out meth or instance?

EDIT - And I know, marijuana discussions are prevelent here but this is a direct question. Compare say Weed and the more harmful substances...at least harmful in my opinion...has anyone ever seen evidence the weed can do as much damage as the other substances?

Yes of course it can. MJ is pyscholgicaly addictve, it can cause mental health problems in later life.

Lets not forget that the 'high' of MJ almost garentees that you'll get nowt done.

That said all recreational substances have their (relativly) good and bad points.

My drug of choice is MJ (okay and LSD) but when you endulge in any recreational substance use, you must educate yourself on the dangers. To think that MJ holds no danger is foolish in the extreme.

It is quite insiduase, in that if you are a regular user, you will enviribly come to the thought that there are no ill effects, to that I would say, stay clean for week, and note your mood swings, how you treat others, how you feel within yourself. And most importantly the added function you'll notice after not smoking for a week.

Don't fool yourself, there are dangers and issues with MJ.

Ok, so I just got finished with a meeting that determined whether or not I should return to my school after I had just been suspended for possession of marijuana. The problem with this meeting, although they are allowing me to return, is that both my family and the school staff (As well as the third party which conducted the meeting) all believe that I have a bigger problem then just smoking weed. Now i'll admit, I've done other drugs, but I try them I don't stick with them. Last time I did another drug was X which was about a month ago, and that was the only extra thing i've done this year.

So this issue is whether or not people really do believe Marijuana is the problem people make it out to be, the real reason they think I have such a problem is because I have no work ethic...which I had before even smoking for the first time.

Opinions, please on whether or not you truely believe marijuana (And if you've never tried it then your opinion for me cannot be taken seriously) is as harmful a substance as the many others out there that I or anyone who smokes weed regularly could be addicted to...lets just throw out meth or instance?

EDIT - And I know, marijuana discussions are prevelent here but this is a direct question. Compare say Weed and the more harmful substances...at least harmful in my opinion...has anyone ever seen evidence the weed can do as much damage as the other substances?

Sorry to hear you live in Nebraska, now I understand why you use drugs:).

Sorry to hear you live in Nebraska, now I understand why you use drugs:).

ya...'tis a sad life, even canada is better then this

If anything is used to excess, it can be a problem. However, I do think that marijuana should be legalized. When I was in high school, we smoked all of our weed before we got to school. I was a straight A student by the way. We never had the herb on school grounds, because we didn't want to go to jail. I think the biggest issue with marijuana is the fact that it's not that hard to grow, and therefore is a lot harder for the government to tax. I don't agree with most of the statistics I've seen on marijuana nor do I agree with those stupid commercials where they show people all lethargic. The biggest problem I ever had when I smoked was the munchies. Like I said at the beginning of this post, excessive anything is bad for you. I also disagree with any man made drugs or drugs that had to be altered from their natural state to be made the way they are. I say legalize mary jane, and then it wouldn't be a problem. Just don't smoke and drive or operate heavy equipment.

But the funny thing about this whole situation was that I have a job, and I'm very motivated when it comes to that. But with school I just don't care, the shit feels pointless almost...

Who cares? Just do your work and get over it. You think any of us really like our jobs? Really? We hate them. We get up, go to work, do what we have to, go home and do fun stuff on our own time. Pot isn't your problem, maturity is.

Who cares? Just do your work and get over it. You think any of us really like our jobs? Really? We hate them. We get up, go to work, do what we have to, go home and do fun stuff on our own time. Pot isn't your problem, maturity is.

no see, I love my job. I go to my job and I have fun at my job. Never said I hated my job...

If anything is used to excess, it can be a problem. However, I do think that marijuana should be legalized. When I was in high school, we smoked all of our weed before we got to school. I was a straight A student by the way. We never had the herb on school grounds, because we didn't want to go to jail. I think the biggest issue with marijuana is the fact that it's not that hard to grow, and therefore is a lot harder for the government to tax. I don't agree with most of the statistics I've seen on marijuana nor do I agree with those stupid commercials where they show people all lethargic. The biggest problem I ever had when I smoked was the munchies. Like I said at the beginning of this post, excessive anything is bad for you. I also disagree with any man made drugs or drugs that had to be altered from their natural state to be made the way they are. I say legalize mary jane, and then it wouldn't be a problem. Just don't smoke and drive or operate heavy equipment.

I just played that commercial from Herold and Kumar over in my head, the one where the guy takes one toke and jammes a shotgun in his mouth "Im so high NOTHING CAN HURT ME." and the other guy has a delayed reaction as the dude shoots himself...ya know cause thats how I feel entirly when I smoke o.O

I totally lost a friend to cannabis. Aye, fine, it's hardly the usual situation, but it's complete agony watching someone just fade away from their job, school, friends and family to take drugs. Genuinely sad times.

I've done it before a bit, but pretty much stopped when I lost my mate to it :(

no see, I love my job. I go to my job and I have fun at my job. Never said I hated my job...

Until you graduate, school is your job. I hated school, hated it. I see your pain, it sucks, it's boring, it's crap you already know.....but just suck it up and finish, then bitch about the wasted years later.