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College hazing.....not yet in college but I heard some crazy stuff about it. Do you think college hazing is wrong, fun, or just plain nasty.

Got any stories?:rolleyes:

College hazing.....not yet in college but I heard some crazy stuff about it. Do you think college hazing is wrong, fun, or just plain nasty.

Got any stories?:rolleyes:

Uh, never heard of any such thing. I know some frats probably do it, but I was ever in a frat. I hate frat boys.

If I knew what college hazing was, I'd tell you.

go online and look

It is only frats and sororities
Hazing really doesn't happen anymore.
normally they something to embarrass the pledges as a group.
run around town naked or something like that. but the days chug alcohol until you vomit for 6 hours, or get beat up with wooden paddles are over.

Ps. how do I answer the question

Is it good or bad with yes and no ???

Sounds retarded.

Ps. how do I answer the question

Is it good or bad with yes and no ???
If you think it is eight good or bad, vote yes. If you disagree that it is either good or bad, vote no. ;)

Meh, it's never as bad as it sounds, at least here in Montreal. Worst I've heard yet was licking toilets.

Oops sorry messed up on the poll..:eek:

Yes: You think hazing is ok

No: You think hazing is not ok

It must be worse in American and Europe....running around naked, beatings, gross things put on/in you....


I guess it is a frat thing only....:headbang:

I'm in Scotland and I've heard of it happening here to one or two people I sort of know. A lassie that lived upstairs from me last year streaked through a club and down the high street to be part of the hockey "frat".

To me its wrong, if you have to do something stupid to impress someone, how intelligent and moral are the people you are impressing?

it all sounds a bit daft to me, I never heard of it at the uni I went to but we don't have frats over here so maybe that's why

It must be worse in American and Europe....running around naked, beatings, gross things put on/in you....


I guess it is a frat thing only....:headbang:



Im American, and I can tell you that most of it are scare stories are urban legends.


Ive heard of one bad one. There is a certian frat banned from certian college campuses, because allegidly a part of their initiation was that the new pledge had to commit rape and video tape it. Apperantly in Minnisota (I think?) a local chapter had that as their hazing and got nailed for it. I guess there was some speculation over whether it was a local issue or not, so they are banned from many campuses.

As far as I can tell however, most frats, if there even is hazing, dont do illegal or dangerous things.


But like I said, I hate frat boys. With a passion. So I have no first hand experiance with it.

You never hear about hazing until one of them goes horribly horribly wrong, then it's all over the news and the pundits talk about it until a beautiful blond hair, blue eyes, big breasted woman goes missing.

It must be worse in American and Europe....running around naked, beatings, gross things put on/in you....


I guess it is a frat thing only....:headbang:

Yeah, pretty much a frat thing. Never experienced it here in Santa Cruz. Hell, I don't know if we even have any frats.

You never hear about hazing until one of them goes horribly horribly wrong, then it's all over the news and the pundits talk about it until a beautiful blond hair, blue eyes, big breasted woman goes missing.

So true, I remember a story about some kids drowning from drinking too much water in some Frat houses basement. Pretty sure its mentioned on this page: Here (http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Hall/9293/history.html)

So true, I remember a story about some kids drowning from drinking too much water in some Frat houses basement. Pretty sure its mentioned on this page: Here (http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Hall/9293/history.html)

I also have to mention that the woman has to be white. If she isn't white, it's not news.

Wait you get woman that aren't white? When did that happen?! :confused:

College hazing.....not yet in college but I heard some crazy stuff about it. Do you think college hazing is wrong, fun, or just plain nasty.

Got any stories?:rolleyes:
yes. it can wrong, fun, and nasty.

after all, anything can be taken to the extreme.

And no, no hazing stories.

Well, I was @ Baylor the year of the basketball shooting (http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/media/storage/paper410/news/2003/07/01/University/Missing.Baylor.Basketball.Player.Now.Presumed.Dead-493049.shtml) as well as the gay seminary (http://www.abpnews.com/2382.article) debacle and the fraternity hazing incident. All I can say is that Baptists should not congregate in large numbers, which pretty much explains the Old South, in my opinion.

Um, couldn't find a link to the hazing incident. Everyone beware of Baylor.

People who take risks against their will just because they want to belong are being ruthlessly exploited by evil motherfuckers. End of the story. :mad:

At Reading University, which I'm attending, I think the Rugby team does sort of a hazing thing, where they'd trash some local gardens on something like the first piss-up of the year. Not sure if it's really a hazing, as I'm kind of unfamiliar with the concept. And the uni came down rather hard on it.

Also, the football team went out on a hell of a piss up in like the first term which resulted in damn near the lot of them being suspended from uni for a good while. They trashed a bar and a restaurant, which also included some of them pissing on the bar.

Sounds fucking dumb to me.

I don't oppose self initiated random stupidity (as long as you are ready to accept its consequences), but if you do it because you want to belong to a group of dickheads you deserve a kicking in the bollocks.

Yeah, pretty much a frat thing. Never experienced it here in Santa Cruz. Hell, I don't know if we even have any frats.

Bana Slugs FTW.

I know we had at least sororities, because my friend's roomie joined one. The "hazing" was mostly a bunch of dumb time-wasting tasks and meetings that just set back her schoolwork. We pointed and laughed appropriately.

its sounds fun but its an American thing I'd guess

To me its wrong, if you have to do something stupid to impress someone, how intelligent and moral are the people you are impressing?

why can't I be friends with stupid and immoral people? I mean this is NSG...

Oh hazing or initiation as we students over here in the UK call it. All I can tell you is that the last time things got out of hand was when the following objects were involved:

Fish guts
A double ended dildo
Whiskey out of a shoe


That's all I'm saying.

It sounds pretty dumb to me, and I've never experienced it, but I heard of a sorority at the college in my hometown where you strip naked and then the sorority sisters point out all the physical imperfections they can, which could be pretty mentally harsh.

In the university where I studied it was custom to grab new students, male and female alike, and paint their hair green, blue or red with a spray can.

The day some punks approached me screaming and holding the can, I grabbed an empty beer bottle and smashed it against the floor, (I even got a cut finger becuase of the flying fragments). They looked at me, paused for a second, taunted me for a bit, and one said, "Nah, this bitch looks too tough", and walked away.

The second one, more civil because is a prank, is to mislead new students when they ask for directions. Someone applied it to me, and I returned the favor to other new students during my entire career.

Typical prank dialogue:

"Can you tell me where the inscription office is?" (If he is asking, he's new, and even more if he is looking for the inscription office).

"Yeah, of course, seventh building, sixth floor, just next to the Olympic pool".
(The university, of course, has six buildings, quite apart from each other so it can be a 20 minutes walk, each with five floors, and doesn't have an olympic pool. It was funny in subsequent years when a guy with a freshman face approached you, and hushed "Sorry, do you know where the olympic pool is?")

Apart from that, anything that I have heard is completely moronic. Specially if it is self inflicted or consented.

Wait, what's the deal with the poll?

The question is "Do you think it is good or bad." The answers are "yes" and "no."

The only initiation I've ever come across was when joining the university rugby club. After trials they organised a piss up (promising no initiations). It mainly revolved around forcing people to drink ridiculous amounts of alcohol, their vomit if they were unfortunate enough to produce any, and salt so probably fairly tame by some standards. Fortunately I managed to get out of doing anything.

Getting people to do the kind of stuff involved in initiations/hazing is mainly achieved by intimidation and "being part of the group" so it's quite possible to get out of it if you don't want to do it.

College hazing.....not yet in college but I heard some crazy stuff about it. Do you think college hazing is wrong, fun, or just plain nasty.

Got any stories?:rolleyes:Nope. But I've only been to a US college for half a year and stayed away from the frats.

The students here have Gaudie Night and Raison Monday although they aren't really big nights for anyone but the medical students. Each senior student is paired with a new student and the aim of Gaudie night is to get them as drunk as possible and show them a good night out (or get them so drunk they can't make it to a club and you don't have to pay their entry). Raison Monday is the night for the new students to get their revenge.

It's more of an initiation I suppose rather than hazing and the main purpose is to help new students meet new people fast

College hazing.....not yet in college but I heard some crazy stuff about it. Do you think college hazing is wrong, fun, or just plain nasty.

Got any stories?:rolleyes:

well its just for fraternaties/sarorities, so its just for and about a bunch of spoiled retarded rich brats anyway.

i just figgured it was something to stay away from, did, and that's all i know about it, or ever wish to.

of course i always lived off campus and never had anything to do with any of that. i did know a couple of people who lived in the dorms, but still no one in the greekfreeks. and those i knew in the dorms hadn't had to go through any of that crap that i know of either.

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College hazing.....not yet in college but I heard some crazy stuff about it. Do you think college hazing is wrong, fun, or just plain nasty.

Got any stories?:rolleyes:

A year or so before I attended, a young man died in a hazing incident at SE Missouri State University (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E6DD123BF933A15751C0A962958260). But that was a long time ago, and hopefully, things have gotten better there.

People get killed in hazing incidents here.

I don't really see the point.

Hazing can be fun, silly, disgusting, humiliating, dangerous, violent and/or illegal. THey can generate some of the most memorable moments of your life and make you feel like you belong to something larger. They can also scar you for life both physically and emotionally. In the last twenty years of so, we've developed a bad habit of shifting responsibility for our mistakes to everyone but ourselves. I think it's this tendency to shift blame from ignorant, retarded malicious hazers to the hazing itself that has destroyed hazing. It's probably for the best. We're no longer civilized enough for hazing. :(

well its just for fraternaties/sarorities, so its just for and about a bunch of spoiled retarded rich brats anyway.

Uh huh...

Well...

I'm a proud member of a fraternity, and yes, when I pledged I got hazed. It is a tool for teambuilding and to weed out those who just want to be a brother for the beer and to get laid. Honestly I see so much generalized shit like the above comment, and what people don't realize is that the "Animal House" stereotype isn't how things used to be. The amount of national leaders who were "greek" is astounding. Anyhow, the "Animal House image" is because hazing has declined recently. "Earning your letters" is certainly a thing of the past.

In addition, I played football and baseball back in highschool, and while I was good enough in baseball to not warrant any disrespect, as a sophomore (freshman was in junior high, not highschool for my school) I definately got hazed a bit.

No it didn't kill me or anyone I know. No it didn't hurt me or anyone I know. No my grades or anything didn't suffer. And no I don't regret it.

just want to be a brother for the beer and to get laid.

Why else would one join a fraternity?

The amount of national leaders who were "greek" is astounding.

Which, incidentally is because all your national leaders were "a bunch of spoiled retarded rich brats anyway".

Why else would one join a fraternity?

Because I was friends with a number of the guys already and wanted to be involved with the different aspects of greek life such as the interfraternal council, homecoming, and use it as a resume builder. The positions I have held within the fraternity and the experiences from them helped me get a job, to be honest.

It is only frats and sororities
Hazing really doesn't happen anymore.
normally they something to embarrass the pledges as a group.
run around town naked or something like that. but the days chug alcohol until you vomit for 6 hours, or get beat up with wooden paddles are over.
No, not just frats and sororities, and no, it isn't by any means a thing of the past.

Uh huh...

Well...

I'm a proud member of a fraternity, and yes, when I pledged I got hazed. It is a tool for teambuilding and to weed out those who just want to be a brother for the beer and to get laid. Honestly I see so much generalized shit like the above comment, and what people don't realize is that the "Animal House" stereotype isn't how things used to be. The amount of national leaders who were "greek" is astounding. Anyhow, the "Animal House image" is because hazing has declined recently. "Earning your letters" is certainly a thing of the past.

In addition, I played football and baseball back in highschool, and while I was good enough in baseball to not warrant any disrespect, as a sophomore (freshman was in junior high, not highschool for my school) I definately got hazed a bit.

No it didn't kill me or anyone I know. No it didn't hurt me or anyone I know. No my grades or anything didn't suffer. And no I don't regret it.
I find it amazing that the people who tend to make statements like that either a) don't actually know any guys in a fraternity nor girls in a sorority, b) claim that "frat boys" and "sorority girls" are close-minded, or c) both of the above.

As for hazing, I have a pretty big issue with alot of it. I find that there are better ways to gain a members allegiance to a group. The idea of a fraternity is "brotherhood", and while yes, there are some rituals that aren't so horrible, there are plenty that defy that very notion.

I don't have much first hand experience due to the university that I chose, but my best friend went to a major southern university and joined a frat there. I can tell you from that that hazing is alive and well in many southern schools. Things like giving the pledge a roofie coolada, taking their shoes, and leaving them in a ditch a state or two away with only the number for a brother or dropping a cinderblock on their chest.

I know that the icebag is pretty common among hockey teams, and the elephant walk among lacrosse and rugby

As I said, there are some rituals that are really fine. They can be fun for all involved. Sadly, as it has been abused far too many times in the past, the good times have been ruined for all.

Because I was friends with a number of the guys already and wanted to be involved with the different aspects of greek life such as the interfraternal council, homecoming, and use it as a resume builder. The positions I have held within the fraternity and the experiences from them helped me get a job, to be honest.

Because doing stupid shit so you can hang with your friends is so much more noble than doing stupid shit for the prospect of sex.

Wouldnt mind doing it if i had too... (just i hope i dont get beat)

College hazing. . .? What?


Fraternities and Sororities around here used to have hazing, then they got DEAT from the Greek system. Now the worst they do is hell week for the final week of being a pledge. They just make you clean up and fix everything around the frat house and make you do all the other bitch work. Then you get to drink.



I never subscribed to that scene though. I never really liked the idea of having to pay for my friends.

Because doing stupid shit so you can hang with your friends is so much more noble than doing stupid shit for the prospect of sex.

Stupid to you = not stupid to me. I'm not trying to rush you to join a fraternity. Why do you need to rip on me?

I never really liked the idea of having to pay for my friends.

Oh if that isn't the most tired statement about greek life I've ever heard.

First off, if I didn't pay my dues, every single brother of mine would still be my friend. It would just screw over the lot of us, since our nationals require quarterly payments. I don't pay for my friends, we as a whole pay to wear the certain letters and be recognized nationally. If we didn't pay, we'd still be friends, and still be a group, but we wouldn't be a fraternity. Fraternities, like MANY other various kinds of groups, require dues. It's not that outrageous of an idea. Likewise, the only other thing I pay for is buckup for parties. I choose to do this. If I don't want to party, or I have to study, or whatever, I don't pay.

"Paying for friends?" Think up a new generalization.

It's illegal in my university and grounds for expulsion and the shutting down of the frat, and I go to a major university.

And I'm friends with alot of frat boys who tell me that it honestly doesn't happen anymore or very little of it...like minor minor minor minor hazing. Nothing extreme.

My campus had "Rat Day" until the 60s, I think. The underclassmen (well, women, since we weren't co-ed back then) had to wear rat ears, and had to kneel and beg in front of the boys from the local military college. Sounds funny, but I would've smacked somebody.

Now, we just pull pranks on the underclassmen as a whole. Like telling them to go to the 5th floor of the business building, when there is no 5th floor...


My old roommate (who was in Delta Zeta, if I remember correctly) went through Hell Week. I was still getting silly string off our walls THREE MONTHS after she moved out. *grumble*

Hazing in general is just stupid. Your average, run-of-the-mill fraternity and even sorority will do it. Sororities are probably worse too than fraternities are, women are cruel...

Oh if that isn't the most tired statement about greek life I've ever heard.

First off, if I didn't pay my dues, every single brother of mine would still be my friend. It would just screw over the lot of us, since our nationals require quarterly payments. I don't pay for my friends, we as a whole pay to wear the certain letters and be recognized nationally. If we didn't pay, we'd still be friends, and still be a group, but we wouldn't be a fraternity. Fraternities, like MANY other various kinds of groups, require dues. It's not that outrageous of an idea. Likewise, the only other thing I pay for is buckup for parties. I choose to do this. If I don't want to party, or I have to study, or whatever, I don't pay.

"Paying for friends?" Think up a new generalization.agreed, and I'm not even a frat boy.

It's illegal in my university and grounds for expulsion and the shutting down of the frat, and I go to a major university.

And I'm friends with alot of frat boys who tell me that it honestly doesn't happen anymore or very little of it...like minor minor minor minor hazing. Nothing extreme.
As it should be. I know every university I've ever heard of has explicit rules against hazing. I also know that all too often, these rules are ignored.

I also know that all too often, these rules are ignored.

There's no real way of enforcing them.

I have to laugh at some of the hazing suggestions on here though. Dropping a cinderblock on someone? Roofie-colada? Are you serious lol?

I think some good old fashioned pushups, memorization of important things, and cleaning the house are good earning your letters methods.

From the stuff you guys have mentioned, the closest thing I EVER experienced myself was back in highschool. When someone joined the A/V crew (student broadcast), they weren't allowed to work anything but the teleprompters for several months, and got stuck cleaning the dead roaches out of the control room for their first year.

Mind you, I got left in charge of the AV crew after my first year, and inflicted this crap on the rest of the newbies until I graduated, so I don't think it was that bad. It enforced a hierarchy that kept things working.

There's no real way of enforcing them.

I have to laugh at some of the hazing suggestions on here though. Dropping a cinderblock on someone? Roofie-colada? Are you serious lol?

I think some good old fashioned pushups, memorization of important things, and cleaning the house are good earning your letters methods.
I am quite serious, as was my friend. Granted, for you, it is 2nd hand, but I have no reason to ever doubt the friend in question. If you want to know more, feel free to TG me.

About a year after I entered college, Pokemon Red/Blue came to the US. Many uses of Swords Dance were wiped out by Haze...

Because I was friends with a number of the guys already and wanted to be involved with the different aspects of greek life such as the interfraternal council, homecoming, and use it as a resume builder. The positions I have held within the fraternity and the experiences from them helped me get a job, to be honest.

Getting drunk and getting laid sound like a lot more fun.

I am from Portugal (btw Portugal is in Europe, not near Venezuela like some americans i've met keep telling me) and in College we have hazing but not like the frat and soroty kind of thing.

Here, we have about 5 years of college (actually this may vary due to the european Bologna Treaty). Colleges here have traditional uniforms, not mandatory, but as academic tradition between students.

Hazing here is organized by the college students council. To haze here you must have the uniform, unless you are over 5 years college (Veteran), then you just need the cape (more like a toga...) and not the full uniform, in some college's anyway.

i agree with hazing ...here, because it is used as a way to adapt to college life. Since hazing is organized as group hazing, the whole freshmen tend to know each other on the hazing sessions.By sharing the pain and cooperating against the "evil" upperclassmen. I probably wouldn't meet the people that entered college with me if it wasn't for hazing.

I hate psychological hazing (humiliation, etc) but there's a lot of that around here too,i rarely hazed people psychologically, made a female freshman cry once...i felt bad.. Here freshmen have choice not to be hazed, but by doing that they are forbidden of participating in the Academic events (organized by students) and wear the uniform.


One of the hazings i've made was to take my freshmen to a public square at 6pm, full of people and pigeons, and they were in their PJs. Told them to lie down on the floor, belly up...and then i thrown corn at them...lets just say the pigeons were hungry...no accidents everyone laughed.

Needless to say i couldn't haze without the uniform, so i was pretty much a great normal guy to them on "regular clothes"...They kept saying they reaaaaally hated/were scared when i was with it...but a great "fellah" without..so no hard feelings

Stupid to you = not stupid to me. I'm not trying to rush you to join a fraternity. Why do you need to rip on me?


It's ripping on you? Surely it's only 'ripping on you' if you take it as such.

We've been discussing hazing, and there's really no disputing that hazing can often be referred to as stupid shit. You chose to mention that your little fraternity 'hazes' so as to keep out the wrong sort of people (in this case, those who want to imbibe alcohol or have sexual relations with people, apparently), so that you can keep your brotherhood 'pure' with the right sort of people (those who want to hang with the other boys that were willing to put up with hazing to be allowed in).

Apparently, to you, it is acceptable to want to join a group so that one can hang out with your friends, and not to do so for the beers and babes. Thus - doing stupid shit has degrees of nobility.