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So, my son and a friend were at a local sports bar watching baseball and having a couple of beers. They got into a (my son thought) friendly discussion about interest rates. At a point in the argument, son's friend threw a salt shaker at my son, missed him, and hit the chair of the person at the table over. My son, having occasional bursts of good manners, went over to the person in question and apologized for his friends behavior and, having finished his conversation with the near 'a-salt' victim, went back to his table only to find that his friend (who was also his transportation) had left, without paying for his drink. He didn't come back. My son had to call his sister (it was midnight, she had to work the next day, oh, and she got a speeding ticket going to pick him up).

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had too much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).

An asshole.

An asshole.

An asshole.

An asshole.

ditto. Wise men, these two.

So, what kind of person -

A friend of your son apparantly. Why do they hang out ?

an arsehole

A friend of your son apparantly. Why do they hang out ?

They don't any more.

your son was out drinking? *blames the parent*

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.

what kind of rational individual talks about interests rates is what I'd like to know?

2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.

4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

a c*nt/An asshole who isn't a friend? (though drinking and driving seems to have come up)

3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.

the kind who isn't getting called every again and if seen again will get a good evil look!

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had to much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).

I've always wondered how you can manage this when they dart away before I have the chance to hit on them (most likely doing that thing where I leave a big tip trying to show off)

yep...uhuh...I was going to say something, but it appears to have been covered already...

your son was out drinking? *blames the parent*

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What is wrong with someone's son going to a sports bar for a couple of beers?


Anyway, I would say that the friend in question is one which lets anger and the moment override the friendship...which essentially sounds like sunny day friends (friends when things are good, otherwise not). From my understanding of friendship, even when things get a bit heated and things aren't so good, the friendship remains, and stranding is not an option.

The other things don't really seem to be related to the friendship, but moreso speaks of the character of the individual which the consensus here has gotten right.

So, my son and a friend were at a local sports bar watching baseball and having a couple of beers. They got into a (my son thought) friendly discussion about interest rates. At a point in the argument, son's friend threw a salt shaker at my son, missed him, and hit the chair of the person at the table over. My son, having occasional bursts of good manners, went over to the person in question and apologized for his friends behavior and, having finished his conversation with the near 'a-salt' victim, went back to his table only to find that his friend (who was also his transportation) had left, without paying for his drink. He didn't come back. My son had to call his sister (it was midnight, she had to work the next day, oh, and she got a speeding ticket going to pick him up).

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had too much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).

That's not a friend, that's someone who doesn't care about anyone else. Why would anyone be friends with him?

Firstly, congratulations on the "a-salt" pun. Deployed with style.

Now, on the topic, maybe the guy's a real economics freak, scarily committed to a certain economic ideology. I've got friends who will go absolutely blimmin' mental if you try and defend political correctness, maybe this persons just the same with economic policy?

Maybe he thought he saw the devil on your son's shoulder?

So, my son and a friend were at a local sports bar watching baseball and having a couple of beers. They got into a (my son thought) friendly discussion about interest rates. At a point in the argument, son's friend threw a salt shaker at my son, missed him, and hit the chair of the person at the table over. My son, having occasional bursts of good manners, went over to the person in question and apologized for his friends behavior and, having finished his conversation with the near 'a-salt' victim, went back to his table only to find that his friend (who was also his transportation) had left, without paying for his drink. He didn't come back. My son had to call his sister (it was midnight, she had to work the next day, oh, and she got a speeding ticket going to pick him up).

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had too much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).
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An asshole.An asshole.an arsehole

An asshole.

An asshole.

an arsehole

I think the votes have it set
quote me on that too

if you see that guy again, tell him i said this: :upyours:

an asshole

Man, this thread needs a poll like whoa.

an asshole

Man, this thread needs a poll like whoa.

So far the two poll options would

1. He is an asshole
2. He is an arsehole

i would get revenge by taking a dump on his front door.

i would get revenge by taking a dump on his front door.

Flaming bag of poo was created for situations like the OP.

He wasn't your son's friend. Thats fo'sure

An asshole.

An asshole.

ditto. Wise men, these two.

an arsehole

I think the votes have it set
quote me on that too

if you see that guy again, tell him i said this: :upyours:

an asshole

Man, this thread needs a poll like whoa.

I agree with everyone quoted above!

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

Not someone i'd call a friend. Although, i once had a friend part ways with me over something less.

Flaming bag of poo was created for situations like the OP.

deploy flaming bag of poo just after he has bought new shoes.

So, my son and a friend were at a local sports bar watching baseball and having a couple of beers. They got into a (my son thought) friendly discussion about interest rates. At a point in the argument, son's friend threw a salt shaker at my son, missed him, and hit the chair of the person at the table over. My son, having occasional bursts of good manners, went over to the person in question and apologized for his friends behavior and, having finished his conversation with the near 'a-salt' victim, went back to his table only to find that his friend (who was also his transportation) had left, without paying for his drink. He didn't come back. My son had to call his sister (it was midnight, she had to work the next day, oh, and she got a speeding ticket going to pick him up).

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had too much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).
Does this person have a history of being argumentative or any mental disabilities?
It's possible he got embarrassed at hitting a stranger with a salt-shaker, or generally nervous about things.
You say friendly discussion then you say argument. I thought these two were wholly different things.
Seems like your son got really unlucky, perhaps he misjudged this persons temperament.
.....
shame really, waste of salt.

Does this person have a history of being argumentative or any mental disabilities?
It's possible he got embarrassed at hitting a stranger with a salt-shaker, or generally nervous about things.
You say friendly discussion then you say argument. I thought these two were wholly different things.
Seems like your son got really unlucky, perhaps he misjudged this persons temperament.
.....
shame really, waste of salt.

It started as a friendly discussion. When the condiments started to fly, it became an argument.

It started as a friendly discussion. When the condiments started to fly, it became an argument.

ah, now that does sound odd.
Also, how long had your son known this 'friend'?
If it is (or was) as short time, then it's possible this guy has some sort of problem with socialising, and/or mental condition.
If it is (or was) a long time, then...well he's an asshole as he should have told your son by now what problems he has.
Again, yeah there's odd people like that, but trust me there are worse.

an ars...oh its already been said...

You know, my friends would duct tape me naked to a lawn chair, but they wouldn't leave me stranded with a bar tab.

That's friendship. :p

You know, my friends would duct tape me naked to a lawn chair, but they wouldn't leave me stranded with a bar tab.

That's friendship. :p

And that's fun as well :D

And that's fun as well :D

Never had to rip duct tape off nipples/nipple hair I take it...:(

Sounds like your son's "friend" should make an appointment with Dr. Buddy Rydell (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0009646/) pronto!

Never had to rip duct tape off nipples/nipple hair I take it...:(

Well, we had lots of strong liquor available as well.

Which gives you 2 options:

Use the strong liquor to dissolve the glue a bit.

Drink a lot so that you feel less...

Guess what we did :D

Well, we had lots of strong liquor available as well.

Which gives you 2 options:

Use the strong liquor to dissolve the glue a bit.

Drink a lot so that you feel less...

Guess what we did :D

Well, if your friends are anything like mine, they pounded the booze and left you there, sober, cold, and with soon-to-be-sore nipples.

So, my son and a friend were at a local sports bar watching baseball and having a couple of beers. They got into a (my son thought) friendly discussion about interest rates. At a point in the argument, son's friend threw a salt shaker at my son, missed him, and hit the chair of the person at the table over. My son, having occasional bursts of good manners, went over to the person in question and apologized for his friends behavior and, having finished his conversation with the near 'a-salt' victim, went back to his table only to find that his friend (who was also his transportation) had left, without paying for his drink. He didn't come back. My son had to call his sister (it was midnight, she had to work the next day, oh, and she got a speeding ticket going to pick him up).

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had too much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).

Your son is old enough to go to bars...*makes Anti-Social Darwinism feel old*

Well, if your friends are anything like mine, they pounded the booze and left you there, sober, cold, and with soon-to-be-sore nipples.

Nah, they would first fill me up a lot with the worst strong liquor they could find... and they'd tie my wrists too..

Then again, my friends also dropped me in another country together with 4 other friends and 2 bottles of Apfelkorn... Fun times :D

Too bad they didn't drop by to give us more Apfelkorn when we called them and explained them that we finished those 2 bottles after 40 minutes of walking home :(

Luckily, there was a village nearby with a bar :D

Never had to rip duct tape off nipples/nipple hair I take it...:(

Or worse. I've been involuntarily fitted with a duct tape jockstrap before. That's.... memorable.

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.


A person with whom you don't want to spend an evening, or not anymore, at least. To be more accurate, a person you don't want as a friend anymore.

why did you have to go ten miles to go drinking? isn't there any closer place to get blotto?
that's the REAL issue here...

So, my son and a friend were at a local sports bar watching baseball and having a couple of beers. They got into a (my son thought) friendly discussion about interest rates. At a point in the argument, son's friend threw a salt shaker at my son, missed him, and hit the chair of the person at the table over. My son, having occasional bursts of good manners, went over to the person in question and apologized for his friends behavior and, having finished his conversation with the near 'a-salt' victim, went back to his table only to find that his friend (who was also his transportation) had left, without paying for his drink. He didn't come back. My son had to call his sister (it was midnight, she had to work the next day, oh, and she got a speeding ticket going to pick him up).

So, what kind of person -

1. Considers an argument about interest rates an important enough excuse to throw things.
2. Leaves a friend in a bar at midnight, 10 miles from home without transportation and with the bar tab.
3. Refuses to speak to his friend after throwing things at him in a bar and then leaving him without transportation.
4. Refuses to apologise to a stranger that he almost hit with a salt shaker.

(This person has a previous history of sexually harassing waitresses when he's had too much to drink and has been barred from at least one restaurant).Few people know that it is in fact illegal to charge people for things they did not order or consume, including things ordered by other people that left without paying. I wonder if its the same where you live.

Sounds like that guy has anger issues! :mad:
Hunky anger issues! :fluffle:

I'd like to hear the other bloke's side of the story.

(Not when he's drunk, though.)

Assuming your child is trustworthy and the story is true, then your son should consider himself lucky that he worked out this "friend" was a prick, when it wasn't a more important, dangerous situation.

Quote for the day: Friends help you move, Good friends help you move bodies.