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So I was cleaning out the fridge yesterday when out of no where I spotted a lovely can of whipped cream. As I'm fat already, I thought "Hey, what the hell? Why not just om nom nom nom this bitch while I clean?" and so I did.. and as I bent the plastic thing to fill my mouth with lovely whipped cream I felt a burst of air being forced down my throat. I was all "lolwut" and then I was all "oic" and so I shook the can once more and inhaled and my body began tingling. I laughed my ass off that it actually worked, so much that I almost fell off the chair I was sitting on at the time. The buzz lasted a minute, but it was nice. *nods*

Maybe I wasn't actually high, but yeah. Teh shiz.

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What do you think about getting high? Is it worth it to you? Do you get high? Nice happy fun time anecdotes? Bad joojoo anecdotes? Are you high right now? Favourite drug? Least favourite? doudrugz?

You, my friend, are truly insane.

And that's as it should be.

I knew this thread would deliver.

Anyways, I prefer mariwhatta. The best high I ever had, my whole body was tingling all over in a ticklish manner, and my computer's screen saver was the epitome of drole.

Do we need to bring back the cage?

You, my friend, are truly insane.

And that's as it should be.

Oh yes insane but true.

I have gotten high off of Expo markers, Sharpies, glue, white out, and other insane things. But it is not wrong to do this. The only high I think is wrong is if it is off a drug like crack or Glass.

You, my friend, are truly insane.

And that's as it should be.
I appreciate the compliment, Cannaetian.
I knew this thread would deliver.
Like Papa John's.
Anyways, I prefer mariwhatta. The best high I ever had, my whole body was tingling all over in a ticklish manner, and my computer's screen saver was the epitome of drole.
So that's what you did with your 30 minutes..
Oh yes insane but true.

I have gotten high off of Expo markers, Sharpies, glue, white out, and other insane things. But it is not wrong to do this. The only high I think is wrong is if it is off a drug like crack or Glass.

Glass? You can get high on glass?

Why did Dale Chihuly never tell me this?

I love being high, actually. Unfortunately I can't be so as often as I like, but when I can, it's fun.

Whip its are fun. though it is better if you use a balloon it raises the temperature so your body can absorbs more.

fav drug I had used was Acid.


stopped using drugs after watching a Gf (now Ex) self destruct off of pot, which before I thought was just goverment propaganda.

You, my friend, just discovered the wonder that is Nitrous Oxide. A completely harmless, wonderful short term high. Also works great when mixed with alcohol. The only thing you have to be careful of is that if you do a lot of them (about 40 or 50 canisters) a day for a month or so, you can fairly sever vitamin C and b12 shortages, but a berocca every day or two fixes that with no problems.

Nos is great. Also known as nangs. Look em up.

Big fan of salvia if I want to trip. If I want to get high...the best high I ever had was honestly from opium, however, I figure any drug that's hurt entire nations is probably bad juju for me. Other than that, I'll stick with my good old friend, alcohol. Weed just tends to make me uncomfortable.

I need the option, "I'm high right now."

Big fan of salvia if I want to trip. If I want to get high...the best high I ever had was honestly from opium, however, I figure any drug that's hurt entire nations is probably bad juju for me. Other than that, I'll stick with my good old friend, alcohol. Weed just tends to make me uncomfortable.

the smoke from weed irritates my skin, after the high, in general not worth it. Salvia is a good trip but for those who haven't tripped other things before it is a bit too intense and can lead to a bad trip.

Opium heaviest opiate i used was heroin Felt way better then anyone deserved to feel, so never touched the stuff again.

I have better things to do with my life.

At least I'm moving up the hierarchy of celebrity, from Obnoxious Internet Meme to Mediocre Singer Who Does That One Song That Is Pretty Good The First Time You Hear It, But, Christ, Does It Get Way Too Much Air Time.

I have better things to do with my life.
Like post on NSG?

Says the guy with a nearly 8,000 post count

I'm actually not a big fan of weed, which is ironic/kind of sad because I went to UC Santa Cruz for college. I didn't even know people paid for weed until I graduated. I'll do it occasionally if I'm with friends and in the mood, but it makes me antsy and the crappier quality stuff makes me paranoid. I also don't feel like I'm in control of my experience, and I'm sort of a control freak, so I prefer the (illusion of) control with alcohol.

Only other stuff I've really tried is speed and oxy, both good. I like speed best, but it leaves me totally wrecked later.

Glass? You can get high on glass?

Why did Dale Chihuly never tell me this?

I'm kind of embarrassed that I giggled out loud at that. For the record, I am not high right now!

At least I'm moving up the hierarchy of celebrity, from Obnoxious Internet Meme to Mediocre Singer Who Does That One Song That Is Pretty Good The First Time You Hear It, But, Christ, Does It Get Way Too Much Air Time.

I've judged your masculinity based on this post.


Says the guy who likes Fiest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Z-DIAthbM).

Getting high is pretty fun. I won't smoke anything, but brownies are pretty good, as are cookies.

Don't touch the stuff.. never even been curious. Alcohol disorients me to the point where I want to scream so why would I use drugs? Besides, I have a mild form of Autism and thats bad enough, I like to keep control of my self as best I can and using drugs would diminish my already sometimes tenuous self control.

Don't touch the stuff.. never even been curious. Alcohol disorients me to the point where I want to scream so why would I use drugs? Besides, I have a mild form of Autism and thats bad enough, I like to keep control of my self as best I can and using drugs would diminish my already sometimes tenuous self control.

How do you know if you never tried?! :O

How do you know if you never tried?! :O

Watching all those idiots who do. I know people who hit acid once in thier life and still have lasting side affects, I know people who have smoked so much pot they are permenatly burnt out, I have heard horror stories about crack from some of the biggest party goers in town. I have witnessed some really nasty things first hand in college caused by drugs from pot to opium on otherwise normal people. I have seen heroine junkies who look like zombies staggering around beggin for cash so they can get another fix.

I say to you and anyone else who would attempt to pique my interest, "No, thank you."

My favourite (https://www.ezorderschoolsupplies.com/images/Marker%20-%20Blk%20-%20Scented.JPG)

At least I'm moving up the hierarchy of celebrity, from Obnoxious Internet Meme to Mediocre Singer Who Does That One Song That Is Pretty Good The First Time You Hear It, But, Christ, Does It Get Way Too Much Air Time.
:p At least you don't age three years any time he mentions you.

Says the guy with a nearly 8,000 post count
Wait - you keep track? How? Notches on the harddrive?

Oh yes insane but true.

I have gotten high off of Expo markers, Sharpies, glue, white out, and other insane things. But it is not wrong to do this. The only high I think is wrong is if it is off a drug like crack or Glass.

So...abusing the toxic chemicals in ordinary school supplies is not wrong. Got it. This explains a lot about your posts.

Glass? You can get high on glass?

Why did Dale Chihuly never tell me this?

Well, Dale's a bit of a bogart when comes to his stash of silly silicates. Also, the inside of his eyepatch is coated with transdermal mescaline.

And "glass" is just Japanenglish for "grass." It's also known as "Toke-yo."

Whip its are fun. though it is better if you use a balloon it raises the temperature so your body can absorbs more.

fav drug I had used was Acid.


stopped using drugs after watching a Gf (now Ex) self destruct off of pot, which before I thought was just goverment propaganda.

Pot doesn't cause self destruction itself. The lifestyle lived while using it chronically is what traps some people. I had a friend who worked at a pizza joint for two years (at age 22-24) just to support his Rocky Horror Picture Show acting habit. Weed didn't keep him there, the friends he made there and his need to belong to any group that would have him did.

Laughing gas (NO, the gas in whipped cream) is indeed a most righteous high.

It was administered to Queen Victoria to ease the pain of childbirth, by Sir Humphry Davy, fellow of the Royal Society and onetime president of same.

That said, be careful to breath sufficient oxygen while doing nitrous. It can easily trick you into thinking you don't need to breathe, and the anoxia high, while damn fine also, kills braincells like bugs.

good point

Don't touch the stuff.. never even been curious. Alcohol disorients me to the point where I want to scream so why would I use drugs?

Alcohol is a drug, and a very barbaric and inefficient one too. A quick look at the chemistry of it shows that drinkers are really getting off on the side-effects.

Besides, I have a mild form of Autism and thats bad enough, I like to keep control of my self as best I can and using drugs would diminish my already sometimes tenuous self control.

Yes, some drugs would definitely do that.

*sigh*

Another potential addict falls to the scourge of Meditation.

Oh, why do they waste their lives that way ?

:p

Also, ROTTEN POLL.

There's no "meh" option. I've had good times and boring times and bad times on weed. Meh, overall. I stopped when I was 21, and was barely a recreational user in the first place.

I've never really tried anything but NOS and alcohol, but then again, I'm not that interested in trying anything either...

I need the option, "I'm high right now."

do you have nothing better to do while high than go on nationstates forums?

Being Irish I would die without the greatest drug of all, alcohol.

Being Irish I would die without the greatest drug of all, alcohol.

You just need oxygen from time to time, eh? ;)

You just need oxygen from time to time, eh? ;)

Maybe once or twice a week. I've totally got it under control.

I've judged your masculinity based on this post.
Oh please, I had to return my penis to its distributor about the time I discovered Cat Power; long, long before now.

Maybe once or twice a week. I've totally got it under control.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard that one before...

My personal take on drugs and getting high and stuff:

I can't stand the thought of it.

If I'm going to enjoy myself, I want to enjoy myself in the real world, I don't want to be sitting around half comatose laughing at stuff that isn't even funny like a complete moron.

I just don't need drugs as an escape. I want to stay myself, in the real world.

It's just something I feel strongly about - I can't stand the idea of using recreational chemicals to alter my state of mind, I'm quite fine as I am, and I'm able to enjoy myself without, well, cheating, as it were.

NB:

I don't think anyone is a bad person for doing drugs, but personally I'm not wild about the idea of spending time having a conversation with someone who's high. And it really hacks me off if my girlfriend smokes marijuana when I go up to see her: a) she know the smell of smoke really bothers me b) she knows how I feel about drugs c) I've come all that way to spend time with her, not the stoned her.

My personal take on drugs and getting high and stuff:

I can't stand the thought of it.

If I'm going to enjoy myself, I want to enjoy myself in the real world, I don't want to be sitting around half comatose laughing at stuff that isn't even funny like a complete moron.

I just don't need drugs as an escape. I want to stay myself, in the real world.

It's just something I feel strongly about - I can't stand the idea of using recreational chemicals to alter my state of mind, I'm quite fine as I am, and I'm able to enjoy myself without, well, cheating, as it were.

NB:

I don't think anyone is a bad person for doing drugs, but personally I'm not wild about the idea of spending time having a conversation with someone who's high. And it really hacks me off if my girlfriend smokes marijuana when I go up to see her: a) she know the smell of smoke really bothers me b) she knows how I feel about drugs c) I've come all that way to spend time with her, not the stoned her.

You're taking life far too seriously:rolleyes:

I'll vote with alcohol myself - it's not the drunkness, it's just that nothing beats the taste of some wines.

the smoke from weed irritates my skin, after the high, in general not worth it. Salvia is a good trip but for those who haven't tripped other things before it is a bit too intense and can lead to a bad trip.

Salvia induced my second-worst drug experience ever. I have since learned through some research that, in retrospect, taking a über-hit of 60X through a chilled bong was probably ill-advised.

As bad as that was, though, it doesn't come close to the time I dropped acid before going to work in a Halloween "haunted house" as a creature actor. *shudder* It was a very, very long night.

No more of that nonsense, though: I'll just stick to the good Portland beer and the occasional smoke. I'm getting too old for the other things.

You're taking life far too seriously:rolleyes:

What's wrong with that?

You're taking life far too seriously:rolleyes:

Hmmm...I just prefer to enjoy myself without having to screw my mind and state of consciousness over.

Salvia induced my second-worst drug experience ever. I have since learned through some research that, in retrospect, taking a über-hit of 60X through a chilled bong was probably ill-advised.

As bad as that was, though, it doesn't come close to the time I dropped acid before going to work in a Halloween "haunted house" as a creature actor. *shudder* It was a very, very long night.

No more of that nonsense, though: I'll just stick to the good Portland beer and the occasional smoke. I'm getting too old for the other things.

my worst trip was Ex Gf induced. 1 week before the trip we broke up, finally 2 days before the trip she actually talks to me about it, she tells me the break up was engineered by her friends, she didn't want it, and that she is certain we can work things out and get back together.

then night of the trip we end up at the same party thrown by a then mutual friend. she refuses to say the tension breaking hello or make eye contact.
The she proceeds to try and convince my friends i was abusive and all this other garbage.
Needless to say it was a bad trip.

Hmmm...I just prefer to enjoy myself without having to screw my mind and state of consciousness over.

Your state of consciousness is over rated. Get drunk *nods*

Your state of consciousness is over rated. Get drunk *nods*

Get drunk because you say I should?

Peer pressure ftw! l0lz!!1

I'm a Mormon.

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't do drugs, don't swear.

Prudery is fun. I had (in high school) more friends than the stoners, the whores, the alkies, all those other idiots from high school. And I still do. And more money. Considerably.

Ya I love pot, if I could i'd marry the bitch, but I'd be a polygymist because i'd also marry X and shrooms. I love life......

What's wrong with that?

You'll find out on your death bed.;)

Doesn't interest me.

Hmmm...I just prefer to enjoy myself without having to screw my mind and state of consciousness over.

Whatever floats your boat really, though as said above, consciousness is overrated. I, by no means, advocate abuse, but letting go every once in a while makes you more aware of your mind and consciousness.

As I said, it's really up to you, but I can't for the life of me understand why you would not want to try something new. If you have cyrossis(sp?), then by all means don't drink, but otherwise what's the problem?

I'm a Mormon.

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't do drugs, don't swear.

Prudery is fun. I had (in high school) more friends than the stoners, the whores, the alkies, all those other idiots from high school. And I still do. And more money. Considerably.

And this makes you better how?

Not interested in weed anymore. To be honest, I've never seen the attraction of it.

I'm a Mormon.

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't do drugs, don't swear.

Prudery is fun. I had (in high school) more friends than the stoners, the whores, the alkies, all those other idiots from high school. And I still do. And more money. Considerably.

Definitely a joke poster.

I don't get high ... Maybeh.

Definitely a joke poster.

Or a joke Rl person?

Whatever floats your boat really, though as said above, consciousness is overrated. I, by no means, advocate abuse, but letting go every once in a while makes you more aware of your mind and consciousness.

As I said, it's really up to you, but I can't for the life of me understand why you would not want to try something new. If you have cyrossis(sp?), then by all means don't drink, but otherwise what's the problem?

Drinking isn't something new for me.

I know what it's like and I've made my decision about it.

NB: Cirrhosis

Definitely a joke poster.

No. Not really.

@ Ad Nihilo:

Higher standard of living, I guess? I've never thought of myself as better in anything. I just don't do the stuff cause I don't see the reasoning.

Or a joke Rl person?

Nobody can be that silly.

No. Not really.

@ Ad Nihilo:

Higher standard of living, I guess? I've never thought of myself as better in anything. I just don't do the stuff cause I don't see the reasoning.

Well isn't Mormonisn a joke religion? Maybe..

Nobody can be that silly.

Would you take that back if i told you some people are Scientologists?

Would you take that back if i told you some people are Scientologists?

Thay don't claim never smoking, drinking, swearing or having sex confers superiority.

Thay don't claim never smoking, drinking, swearing or having sex confers superiority.

But they do believe that believing in strange Gods trapping/killing souls or whatever does.

You'll find out on your death bed.;)

Is it really possible to regret not doing something one never had any interest in doing? :cool:

Well isn't Mormonisn a joke religion? Maybe..

No.

We are serious.

We aren't necessarily better than anyone, we just have the tools to be better. I don't believe most of the people are better than anyone else. They just could be.

The church is true, but that doesn't mean the people are. They have to strive.

Besides, if you can honestly say that anyone can be saved if they believe in Christ, and damned eternally to Hell if they don't, what type of person are you? Take Hitler. Now, pretend in the last five seconds of his life, he looks up and says, "I believe in Christ." Is he saved? Now, take some random Buddhist monk. He dies. He lived his life honestly, did absolutely everything he was supposed to, never even knew anyone by the name of "Jesus" existed. According to most Christian denominations, he thusly goes to Hell. Is that something a loving God would do to His creations? Would He let a psychotic warlord who killed His chosen people in a mass craze and damned thousands of others into the Kingdom of Heaven, but let such a wonderful man as that monk in China leave, simply because of the acceptance/absence of one name?

@ Ad Nihilo:

Higher standard of living, I guess? I've never thought of myself as better in anything. I just don't do the stuff cause I don't see the reasoning.

Higher standard of living (quantifiable in wealth) doesn't make for a higher quality of life(unquantifiable happiness). And that depends entirely on the person.

As for doing the stuff, that's fine, my problem is that I can't really follow your reasoning in regards of the example you gave. More friends, blah blah, are you happier than them? How do you know? Why do you presume to think you are better than them, and why oh why do you think their current situation has anything to do with alcohol intake(you may be confusing alcohol as a cause when it can very well be the effect)?

Nobody can be that silly.

I know one mormon. He is EXACTLY like that.

Is it really possible to regret not doing something one never had any interest in doing? :cool:

Very good:p

Though a better question is how do you know it's not something you could have enjoyed a lifetime, and just missed out?:D

No.

We are serious.

We aren't necessarily better than anyone, we just have the tools to be better. I don't believe most of the people are better than anyone else. They just could be.

The church is true, but that doesn't mean the people are. They have to strive.

Besides, if you can honestly say that anyone can be saved if they believe in Christ, and damned eternally to Hell if they don't, what type of person are you? Take Hitler. Now, pretend in the last five seconds of his life, he looks up and says, "I believe in Christ." Is he saved? Now, take some random Buddhist monk. He dies. He lived his life honestly, did absolutely everything he was supposed to, never even knew anyone by the name of "Jesus" existed. According to most Christian denominations, he thusly goes to Hell. Is that something a loving God would do to His creations? Would He let a psychotic warlord who killed His chosen people in a mass craze and damned thousands of others into the Kingdom of Heaven, but let such a wonderful man as that monk in China leave, simply because of the acceptance/absence of one name?

Someone's stirred a beehive:eek:

Higher standard of living (quantifiable in wealth) doesn't make for a higher quality of life(unquantifiable happiness). And that depends entirely on the person.

As for doing the stuff, that's fine, my problem is that I can't really follow your reasoning in regards of the example you gave. More friends, blah blah, are you happier than them? How do you know? Why do you presume to think you are better than them, and why oh why do you think their current situation has anything to do with alcohol intake(you may be confusing alcohol as a cause when it can very well be the effect)?

Agreed.

Not necessarily. Happier than the ones that threw their lives away to booze, drugs, sex, and money? Considerably. How do I know? Even the ones that are relative teetotalers worry more, they are generally more miserable and irritable. I'm not better than them, I've just never indulged in something to damage my body in such away. Because the ones that have given it up are happier now, and the ones that have gone in and out are happy out, miserable in, and the ones that indulge regularly are just relatively glum. They might act happy, but they tend to say that they are never satisfied.

Though a better question is how do you know it's not something you could have enjoyed a lifetime, and just missed out?:D

You're very philosophical, whether you mean to be or not. I'm enjoying this conversation.

No.

We are serious.

We aren't necessarily better than anyone, we just have the tools to be better. I don't believe most of the people are better than anyone else. They just could be.

The church is true, but that doesn't mean the people are. They have to strive.

Besides, if you can honestly say that anyone can be saved if they believe in Christ, and damned eternally to Hell if they don't, what type of person are you? Take Hitler. Now, pretend in the last five seconds of his life, he looks up and says, "I believe in Christ." Is he saved? Now, take some random Buddhist monk. He dies. He lived his life honestly, did absolutely everything he was supposed to, never even knew anyone by the name of "Jesus" existed. According to most Christian denominations, he thusly goes to Hell. Is that something a loving God would do to His creations? Would He let a psychotic warlord who killed His chosen people in a mass craze and damned thousands of others into the Kingdom of Heaven, but let such a wonderful man as that monk in China leave, simply because of the acceptance/absence of one name?

Are you trying to preach to me? 'Cause I'm not cool with that, its rather offensive really, its as if you treat my religious fidelity with contempt.

Someone's stirred a beehive:eek:

This statement amuses me to no end. For reasons most people wouldn't understand even if I explained to them to the point of death. It's like an in joke, but it just isn't.

I know one mormon. He is EXACTLY like that.

Thats 'cause Mormons are just plain silly -nods-.

Are you trying to preach to me? 'Cause I'm not cool with that, its rather offensive really, its as if you treat my religious fidelity with contempt.

Not intentionally, no. Sorry if I offended you. I take heavy offense at people calling my religion a joke, just as most would if the same was said about theirs.

Agreed.

Not necessarily. Happier than the ones that threw their lives away to booze, drugs, sex, and money? Considerably. How do I know? Even the ones that are relative teetotalers worry more, they are generally more miserable and irritable. I'm not better than them, I've just never indulged in something to damage my body in such away. Because the ones that have given it up are happier now, and the ones that have gone in and out are happy out, miserable in, and the ones that indulge regularly are just relatively glum. They might act happy, but they tend to say that they are never satisfied.

What I'm missing here is cause and effect. You point out a correlation (assuming your interpretation is true, which i do dispute) - it does not follow from what you have said that alcohol is THE cause, and it never could.

And a side note, alcohol is detrimental in large quantities. In smaller quantities especially wine, it is beneficial to the body (scientifically proven btw).

Not intentionally, no. Sorry if I offended you. I take heavy offense at people calling my religion a joke, just as most would if the same was said about theirs.

Well I would be pretty "Pissed" if some one insulted my religion.

Whoo boy, where to start...

I'm a regular user of alchohol and marijuana, in fact I've smoked probably close to a pound of dope already this year (!) My household buys by the Quarter Pound and we don't deal, so we smoke it all. Usually a QP will last us 3-4 weeks, although this last one seems to be holding out much better. I've been a regular dope smoker since about 17 (so six years now) and I can't say as I've noticed any decrease in the speed or quality of my mental faculties. Memory's still okay and I can't say as I feel anything else has been tremendously limited (physically or mentally) as a result of my use of the drug. Maybe I'm just a freak of nature.

I have, in the past, experimented with a handful of other drugs, of which acid was my clear favorite, although my last few trips haven't been as good as my first dozen or so. I'll bust out a rail of coke every now and again, but I don't make a habit of it because of price and a bunch of other reasons. I had a short lived but intense meth habit in 2004, but quickly became the first person I've ever heard of to drop it cold turkey and I've never looked back since.

I don't mind when people say they don't like drugs or whatever, but I do think there is a tendancy to overreact to this kind of thing. If you don't want to do it yourself that's all well and good--just don't go around pretending that your lifestyle is the be-all-end-all of human existence and that the rest of us need to strive to emulate it. Some people can handle their high, some people can't. Just like alcohol. Apparently, I can.

What I'm missing here is cause and effect. You point out a correlation (assuming your interpretation is true, which i do dispute) - it does not follow from what you have said that alcohol is THE cause, and it never could.

And a side note, alcohol is detrimental in large quantities. In smaller quantities especially wine, it is beneficial to the body (scientifically proven btw).

Elaborate more on what you'd like me to explain.

Wine prepared without fermentation has the same benefits. It's not just grape juice.

This statement amuses me to no end. For reasons most people wouldn't understand even if I explained to them to the point of death. It's like an in joke, but it just isn't.

I think I can quite understand. That one mormon I said I knew: we were very good friends, because we enjoyed arguing a lot. Even though as far as I was concerned he was an irrational fundie and as far as he was concerned I was a satanist. It got personal at times, but it was all in good spirits, and quite civil (most of the times).

Elaborate more on what you'd like me to explain.

Wine prepared without fermentation has the same benefits. It's not just grape juice.

Sour grapes will make wine, but its all just vinegar with time.

Being drunk is better.

Well I would be pretty "Pissed" if some one insulted my religion.

Well, there you go. We already have something in common.

Well, there you go. We already have something in common.

:cool:

Sour grapes will make wine, but its all just vinegar with time.

I've had high class champagne without alcohol in it. Heck, you could probably find unfermented absinthe if you wanted. Of course, eventually, it will do what you said and taste like crap, but it's expensive crap.

I think I can quite understand. That one mormon I said I knew: we were very good friends, because we enjoyed arguing a lot. Even though as far as I was concerned he was an irrational fundie and as far as he was concerned I was a satanist. It got personal at times, but it was all in good spirits, and quite civil (most of the times).

No, there's an analogy about busy bees and the church being a beehive for them to live and seek solace in, but I forget how it goes. What you said works too, though.

Elaborate more on what you'd like me to explain.

Uhm, I thought that was pretty concise. In short, you cannot logically draw the conclusion that since most people are unhappy and most people are drinking, alcohol makes them unhappy, even if the two groups coincide precisely because:

1) You know only so many people: limited sample.

2) Drinking might just as well be an effect of them being unhappy/ an escape if you like.

At most you could draw a correlation, which says nothing about causes. Indeed they could both have a common cause which is altogether different.

Also we are not talking about excess. Saying "I don't drink because some people abuse it" is like saying that "all muslims are murderers because some are terrorists" or that "all christians are bigots because some christians have placards with 'God hates fags'". Some people abusing the substance is not an argument against people using it in moderation.

Not intentionally, no. Sorry if I offended you. I take heavy offense at people calling my religion a joke, just as most would if the same was said about theirs.

Then don't join a joke religion. I mean, really, all that being moral bollocks is fine, but actually knocking on people's doors all weekend?

Very good:p

Though a better question is how do you know it's not something you could have enjoyed a lifetime, and just missed out?:D

You know, I don't have a decent, concise answer to that. Still not going to change my mind though; sorry if that makes me sound like a stubborn jerk, but I have my reasons. Not something I enjoy talking about, actually.

Then don't join a joke religion. I mean, really, all that being moral bollocks is fine, but actually knocking on people's doors all weekend?

Well they want you to hear the word of God so you can't be a good gentile, but an apostate and go to the nasty circles of hell.:p

Oh and God needs money and you should provide it ;)

You know, I don't have a decent, concise answer to that. Still not going to change my mind though; sorry if that makes me sound like a stubborn jerk, but I have my reasons. Not something I enjoy talking about, actually.

I don't have a problem with what you do with your life. What bothers me is justifying it with bollocks arguments;) Peace.

Big fan of salvia if I want to trip. If I want to get high...the best high I ever had was honestly from opium, however, I figure any drug that's hurt entire nations is probably bad juju for me. Other than that, I'll stick with my good old friend, alcohol. Weed just tends to make me uncomfortable.

Mexican tripping weed! tastes like shit though

just stick to honest ole' bud...

hail Splifilis!

Uhm, I thought that was pretty concise. In short, you cannot logically draw the conclusion that since most people are unhappy and most people are drinking, alcohol makes them unhappy, even if the two groups coincide precisely because:

1) You know only so many people: limited sample.

2) Drinking might just as well be an effect of them being unhappy/ an escape if you like.

At most you could draw a correlation, which says nothing about causes. Indeed they could both have a common cause which is altogether different.

Also we are not talking about excess. Saying "I don't drink because some people abuse it" is like saying that "all muslims are murderers because some are terrorists" or that "all christians are bigots because some christians have placards with 'God hates fags'". Some people abusing the substance is not an argument against people using it in moderation.

You raise a good point, and I'll edit this post with my answer when I get back.

You know, I don't have a decent, concise answer to that. Still not going to change my mind though; sorry if that makes me sound like a stubborn jerk, but I have my reasons. Not something I enjoy talking about, actually.

I agree that people should take risks, chances, try new experiences, try things that perhaps scares them. And I think driving yourself to try new things is a great idea.

Depends on which things they are of course. I love trying new things but still, on my deathbed I'm not going to regret the fact that I've never done hallucinogens.

As with most things, all the way to one viewpoint: "I'm not going to try anything new ever, now get those colourful clothes out of my sight!" and the other extreme "You must do everything that scares you, no matter how much you don't want to, now provoke that snake!" are both ridiculous.


*600th post! This is cooler than ice cold!*

Then don't join a joke religion. I mean, really, all that being moral bollocks is fine, but actually knocking on people's doors all weekend?

You're thinking of an optional two year program people go through to become further connected with God. I never was a missionary. Fell out of the church because my fiancee died. Not that I would have been able to go. I was going to get married instead.

Also, not to be stereotypical, or rude, but Jehovah's Witnesses do the exact same thing, as do several branches of Catholicism, and several of the Islaamic faith. Send missionaries out, I mean.

Sorry to be crass, but does this program of connecting with God have quotas of doors you have to knock at, by any chance? Because I can't for the life of me understand how preaching/converting people has anything to do with one's intimate connection with God.

You're thinking of an optional two year program people go through to become further connected with God. I never was a missionary. Fell out of the church because my fiancee died. Not that I would have been able to go. I was going to get married instead.

Also, not to be stereotypical, or rude, but Jehovah's Witnesses do the exact same thing, as do several branches of Catholicism, and several of the Islaamic faith. Send missionaries out, I mean.

And Jehova's witnesses can be counted amongst the popular and credible of sects, no?

I don't have a problem with what you do with your life. What bothers me is justifying it with bollocks arguments;) Peace.

Bollocks arguments? :(

Well, the main thing is this:

Some people can handle their high, some people can't.

I have no desire to see if I end up as the latter; I simply have too much to lose. For me, the potential risks far exceed any possible benefit. One of my uncles got into it, and he couldn't handle it. In fact, looking at my family, I've noticed that everyone who got into drugs, even the mild stuff like marijuana, has essentially ruined their lives.

I hope that people can at least understand my concern here.

Salvia induced my second-worst drug experience ever. I have since learned through some research that, in retrospect, taking a über-hit of 60X through a chilled bong was probably ill-advised.

Am I the only one who thinks that Salvia is incredibly overhyped in terms of it's effects?

I've tried it a few times and it does absolutely nothing for me.

Am I the only one who thinks that Salvia is incredibly overhyped in terms of it's effects?

I've tried it a few times and it does absolutely nothing for me.

Salvia has to be used the right way. I used to think it was nothing.

then someone explained to me how it worked and it was 10 minutes on a acid level trip.

Use a butane lighter salvia needs a high temp to unleash the active ingredient.
Also do it all in only one hit per day if you cough or screw up the first hit you wont get anything for the rest of the day.
So you need to hit it hard off of a butane lighter. also helps if you run it through a bong to cool the smoke as it keeps you from coughing.
Hold the hit in as long as possible. and have someone to grab your smoking apparatus.
your about to go down the rabbit hole.

Salvia has to be used the right way. I used to think it was nothing.

then someone explained to me how it worked and it was 10 minutes on a acid level trip.

I'm not doing anything wrong (high heat flame, one large hit, use a bong)...I'm simply not getting the effects others say they are getting.

I'm a Mormon.

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't do drugs, don't swear.

Prudery is fun. I had (in high school) more friends than the stoners, the whores, the alkies, all those other idiots from high school. And I still do. And more money. Considerably.

Stoners + alkies = people who ever had a drink in high school.

Whores = girls who dared to have and enjoy sex.

Idiots = anyone who believed differently than you.

About right?

I'm not doing anything wrong (high heat flame, one large hit, use a bong)...I'm simply not getting the effects others say they are getting.

what potency are you using and who is the supplier ?

what potency are you using and who is the supplier ?

My friends were quite pleased with the results...I can't recall the source, but it was probably one of the shops in Madison where you can buy the stuff.

My friends were quite pleased with the results...I can't recall the source, but it was probably one of the shops in Madison where you can buy the stuff.

who knows i heard some people have a body chemistry that makes it a lot harder to get a good trip off saliva.
if you want one last go get 60X and use a ice hits from a bong.

Bollocks arguments? :(

Well you said yourslef you couldn't answer my question. The main thing is that what you do is entirely your problem, and you do NOT need to justify it. But if you do try to justify it, make sure you have an argument;)

So I was cleaning out the fridge yesterday when out of no where I spotted a lovely can of whipped cream. As I'm fat already, I thought "Hey, what the hell? Why not just om nom nom nom this bitch while I clean?" and so I did.. and as I bent the plastic thing to fill my mouth with lovely whipped cream I felt a burst of air being forced down my throat. I was all "lolwut" and then I was all "oic" and so I shook the can once more and inhaled and my body began tingling. I laughed my ass off that it actually worked, so much that I almost fell off the chair I was sitting on at the time. The buzz lasted a minute, but it was nice. *nods*

Maybe I wasn't actually high, but yeah. Teh shiz.

..

What do you think about getting high? Is it worth it to you? Do you get high? Nice happy fun time anecdotes? Bad joojoo anecdotes? Are you high right now? Favourite drug? Least favourite? doudrugz?

Whippets are so tacky. You were probably a little high - it's the same chemical as laughing gas - but I'd put it down there with paint.


I smoke pot. I enjoy getting stoned. It's relaxing, fun and I find it stimulates creativity. I don't do any other drugs, however I have tried both speed and esctacy, and I'm not much of a fan of either. I drink, but I probably prefer pot.

Oh yes insane but true.

I have gotten high off of Expo markers, Sharpies, glue, white out, and other insane things. But it is not wrong to do this. The only high I think is wrong is if it is off a drug like crack or Glass.

That's so... pathetic. I feel embarrased for you.
As bad as crack and meth are for you, getting high off of pen fumes is unhealthy too.

I need the option, "I'm high right now."

Haha, I would've needed that earlier in the day.

I'm a Mormon.

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't do drugs, don't swear.

Prudery is fun. I had (in high school) more friends than the stoners, the whores, the alkies, all those other idiots from high school. And I still do. And more money. Considerably.

I'd say your tooting your own horn, but I suppose that'd be against your religion too.

WYTYG's B-day!!!!
*spankies*

And the drug stories ... ah, the drug stories.
Propovol.

I would never do anything that alters my state of mind and does not allow me to fully control my faculties.

does not allow me to fully control my faculties.
....even if your faculties expand as a result?

I've been looking over these drug polls/topics in the NS forum from time to time and I must say that NS members who enjoy drugs of any kind are the same members that have a retarded outlook on life (christians, moralists, leftists of any kind, republicans, hippies, yuppies, communists, capitalists etc)

Before your Liberal Fascist moderators erase this message or you herd of sheep descend upon me with your "attacks" you should read this:

If your number of posts exceeds several thousand then you should stop getting high and start getting a life.

There, I've said what I wanted to say. You sheep can resume your pathetic and useless chatter.

I've been looking over these drug polls/topics in the NS forum from time to time and I must say that NS members who enjoy drugs of any kind are the same members that have a retarded outlook on life (christians, moralists, leftists of any kind, republicans, hippies, yuppies, communists, capitalists etc)

Before your Liberal Fascist moderators erase this message or you herd of sheep descend upon me with your "attacks" you should read this:

If your number of posts exceeds several thousand then you should stop getting high and start getting a life.

There, I've said what I wanted to say. You sheep can resume your pathetic and useless chatter.Hahaha! It's funny because it isn't true! :D

i kinda miss getting high. could often go for a nice spliff in the evening to wind down...

but then the last time i did get high i got all paranoid (yeah i know the term is overused, but it got me pretty bad). last time i got drunk, the same thing, too. bah! :(

WYTYG's B-day!!!!
*spankies*


nah its the 17th isn't it?

but then the last time i did get high i got all paranoid (yeah i know the term is overused, but it got me pretty bad). last time i got drunk, the same thing, too. bah! :(

That wasn't paranoia, we really were trying to get you.

I've been looking over these drug polls/topics in the NS forum from time to time and I must say that NS members who enjoy drugs of any kind are the same members that have a retarded outlook on life (christians, moralists, leftists of any kind, republicans, hippies, yuppies, communists, capitalists etc)

Before your Liberal Fascist moderators erase this message or you herd of sheep descend upon me with your "attacks" you should read this:

If your number of posts exceeds several thousand then you should stop getting high and start getting a life.

There, I've said what I wanted to say. You sheep can resume your pathetic and useless chatter.
You should stick around, you're funny.
That wasn't paranoia, we really were trying to get you.

Don't tell him!

I've been looking over these drug polls/topics in the NS forum from time to time and I must say that NS members who enjoy drugs of any kind are the same members that have a retarded outlook on life (christians, moralists, leftists of any kind, republicans, hippies, yuppies, communists, capitalists etc)

That seems to cover pretty much every 'outlook' possible. So, what you're essentially saying is that the people here who take drugs are...people?

Before your Liberal Fascist moderators erase this message or you herd of sheep descend upon me with your "attacks" you should read this:
Baa.

If your number of posts exceeds several thousand then you should stop getting high and start getting a life.
I've never been high, and am extremely happy with my life. Now, I wonder which of us is the more pathetic: those who post on here a few times a day, or the person who actually took the time to attack them, rather than just ignoring them?

There, I've said what I wanted to say. You sheep can resume your pathetic and useless chatter.
Thanks! Now you're getting it.