NationStates Jolt Archive

http://209.85.48.8/237/117/upload/p701867.jpg

Has anyone else seen Iron Man? In a summer chalk full of huge movies, (Indiana Jones, The Dark Knight) Iron Man has already stood out in my mind as an amazing movie for its genre. It has more wit and smarts than Spiderman, and far more humor than Batman Begins. Frankly, it's right up there with those two genre-leading films, and I cannot wait for the sequel.

I have no idea what you're talking about, and that robot looks plastic.

http://209.85.48.8/237/117/upload/p701867.jpg

Has anyone else seen Iron Man? In a summer chalk full of huge movies, (Indiana Jones, The Dark Knight) Iron Man has already stood out in my mind as an amazing movie for its genre. It has more wit and smarts than Spiderman, and far more humor than Batman Begins. Frankly, it's right up there with those two genre-leading films, and I cannot wait for the sequel.

Not my sort of film, I don't intend to see it though I may do if my friends are seeing it.

The aforementioned friends who are really into this whole genre had high hopes for Iron Man when they were watching the trailers. I'll have to see what they think of it.

I have no idea what you're talking about, and that robot looks plastic.

Oh daaaaamn! He aynt ah row-bot!

Your loss, Fass

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron_man/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hx6TEqrzHU

I have no idea what you're talking about, and that robot looks plastic.

Plastic?

It looks extremely CGI-y...

Plastic?
It looks extremely CGI-y...

Yes, but what I assume is supposed to look like metal looks like plastic instead.

Your loss, Fass

Perusing your links, especially the youtube one, I contest that.

Perusing your links, especially the youtube one, I contest that.

Yes, a 94% fresh rating on rottentomatoes surely means the film must be awful, correct? Either way, you admitted yourself that you haven't even heard of the subject matter, much less watched the film, so your tone is unsurprising.

Is it just me or does fass seem to make it a point to say that he has never heard of things from America, and then when show what they are claims the things are bad?



Edit: I want to go see the movie, but then I also want to see speed racer sooo....

I was never an Iron Man fan -- thought he was kind of a downer of a character -- so I'm not likely to spend my movie dollars on this one.

But I'm a huge Robert Downey, Jr., fan because of movies like "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang." Check it out.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373469/

Marvel, marvel, Marvel.... Why the hell have you never done in house production before...

If the Hulk is anywhere near as good as this, you will have once again dragged your asses back from bankruptcy.


Ironman is hands down the movie of 2008 (until The Dark Knight at least)

Don't pan it before you'#ve seen it... As my local papers review said:

"Nims island and a few other films are out this week but seriously, save your money and go watch Ironman!

Yes, a 94% fresh rating on rottentomatoes surely means the film must be awful, correct?

And "Speed" has a 93% fresh rating. Big whoop, unless you're a fan of dreadful Sandra Bullock and Keanu movies... All I saw on Youtube was lots and lots of explosions and violence. I am not easily dazzled by such glittery flair, nor critics.

Either way, you admitted yourself that you haven't even heard of the subject matter, much less watched the film, so your tone is unsurprising.

What is surprising is your defensiveness.

I never liked Iron Man, and I don't particularly care for Robert Downey, Jr. either.

I'll be saving my money on this one I think...

Yes, a 94% fresh rating on rottentomatoes surely means the film must be awful, correct? Either way, you admitted yourself that you haven't even heard of the subject matter, much less watched the film, so your tone is unsurprising.

Dude, it's Fass. His entire life is interjecting why everything and everyone who isn't him sucks.

Dude, it's Fass. His entire life is interjecting why everything and everyone who isn't him sucks.

Oh, pardon me for not buying the OP's opinion on the matter. I forget that these threads are supposed to be circle-jerks where only those who agree can post without being labelled as "interjecting why everything and everyone who isn't him sucks", because I forget how defensive you lot are of your fragile, little opinions. I shall remember to only post when I agree with something.

Oh, wait, I won't bullshit you. I won't remember that.

Oh, pardon me for not buying the OP's opinion on the matter. I forget that these threads are supposed to be circle-jerks where only those who agree can post without being labelled as "interjecting why everything and everyone who isn't him sucks", because I forget how defensive you lot are of your fragile, little opinions. I shall remember to only post when I agree with something.

Oh, wait, I won't bullshit you. I won't remember that.

Urrrmm.. You have no idea what he's talking about thoufgh 9the OP that is) so why the hell did you post if not to promote a negative reaction.. baiting/trolling?

I don't know, im not a mod.

Now if you had seen the movie and made a negative comment or didn't like either aspect involved in the movie then, its a oppinion (at least in this thread) you are more entitled to like Gravlen:

I never liked Iron Man, and I don't particularly care for Robert Downey, Jr. either.

I'll be saving my money on this one I think...

May not have seen the movie but produces 2 perfectly good reasons why not

Gravlen. And singular http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/html/emoticons/sleep.gif

Gravlen. And singular http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/html/emoticons/sleep.gif

oops, edited..

I am not easily dazzled by such glittery flair, nor critics.

I find that very surprising indeed.

May not have seen the movie but produces 2 perfectly good reasons why not

1./ He could buy something else with the money spent

2./ Do something more worthwhile (subjectively) with the time.

Like see Persepolis instead

:)

Urrrmm.. You have no idea what he's talking about though

He said it was "my loss", I said I doubted that from the pages he linked to and have also stated why I doubt it's my loss. Then he got all puffy and defensive that I didn't agree that it was my "loss". It really helps if you read the thread, you know... and see that no where have I said that the film is great or that it is shit - I have just stated that Steel Butterfly's attempt at bolstering my will to see the film has been ineffectual, and that I doubt it is truly "my loss".

Pretty good film. Not quite as good as the OP suggests, but pretty good.

I was never an Iron Man fan -- thought he was kind of a downer of a character -- so I'm not likely to spend my movie dollars on this one.

But I'm a huge Robert Downey, Jr., fan because of movies like "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang." Check it out.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373469/

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is an OUTSTANDING film. The combination of Downey with Val Kilmer (Gay Perry -- great character) was refreshing to watch.

As for Iron Man, it seems to me that titanium would be a stronger metal. The review I heard siad that there were two separate scripts written for the film, and they chose the "one from column A and one from column B" approach, and that made the film seem uneven and Tony Stark seem like he has multiple personalities.

That said, I'll still go see it on the strength of just about any film in which I've seen Robert Downey Jr. play a role.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is an OUTSTANDING film. The combination of Downey with Val Kilmer (Gay Perry -- great character) was refreshing to watch.
Now that movie was his finest hour. I have not before or since seen him do anything really noticable, but on Kiss Kiss Bang Bang alone he made a name for himself.

1./ He could buy something else with the money spent

2./ Do something more worthwhile (subjectively) with the time.

Like see Persepolis instead

:)

Aaaw, I missed that and want to see it.

*Buys some good DVD's instead of paying to see Iron Man*
I can get two good movies for that price :)

Urrrmm.. You have no idea what he's talking about thoufgh 9the OP that is) so why the hell did you post if not to promote a negative reaction.. baiting/trolling?

I don't know, im not a mod.

Now if you had seen the movie and made a negative comment or didn't like either aspect involved in the movie then, its a oppinion (at least in this thread) you are more entitled to like Gravlen:



May not have seen the movie but produces 2 perfectly good reasons why not

Fass posted his opinion, from what I've seen you're just mad because he is disagreeing with you.

Fass posted his opinion, from what I've seen you're just mad because he is disagreeing with you.

Re-read the entirity of the thread, 2nd post. Fass wades in with an oppinion worth bo diddly squat because he openly admits to not knowing what the hell is being talked about and that robot looks plastic...

Where as most other negative or I wont watch it oppinions have valid reasoning behind thjem such as not liking RDJ, not liking iron man, the cost etc.

I suported my accusation of the troll/flame comment.... or did you chose to ignore the fact that I did that to rile me?

I have no idea what you're talking about, and that robot looks plastic.

That may be the only justifiable oppinion based on the pciture used... its not true in the movie itself though.

Re-read the entirity of the thread, 2nd post. Fass wades in with an oppinion worth bo diddly squat because he openly admits to not knowing what the hell is being talked about and that robot looks plastic...

Where as most other negative or I wont watch it oppinions have valid reasoning behind thjem such as not liking RDJ, not liking iron man, the cost etc.

I suported my accusation of the troll/flame comment.... or did you chose to ignore the fact that I did that to rile me?



That may be the only justifiable oppinion based on the pciture used... its not true in the movie itself though.
I have been reading the entire thread, and in the pic Ironman's armor does look rather plastic-y.


Urrrmm.. You have no idea what he's talking about thoufgh 9the OP that is) so why the hell did you post if not to promote a negative reaction.. baiting/trolling?

I don't know, im not a mod.

Now if you had seen the movie and made a negative comment or didn't like either aspect involved in the movie then, its a oppinion (at least in this thread) you are more entitled to like Gravlen:

May not have seen the movie but produces 2 perfectly good reasons why not
He said it was "my loss", I said I doubted that from the pages he linked to and have also stated why I doubt it's my loss. Then he got all puffy and defensive that I didn't agree that it was my "loss". It really helps if you read the thread, you know... and see that no where have I said that the film is great or that it is shit - I have just stated that Steel Butterfly's attempt at bolstering my will to see the film has been ineffectual, and that I doubt it is truly "my loss".

I fail to see how Fass' posts in this thread could even remotely be called flaming or trolling...
I stand by my assessment that you're just mad that he doesn't like a movie that you do.

Gonna wait till the DVD comes out. cheaper in the long run.


Yes, but what I assume is supposed to look like metal looks like plastic instead. well, the VERY FIRST IronMan armor was metal. but the later armor (like the one shown) is supposed to be an alloy of sorts. so yeah, the plastic look does actually work for it.

Marvel, marvel, Marvel.... Why the hell have you never done in house production before...

Marvel has done in-house productions before. they just learned their lessons and improved their work.

well, the VERY FIRST IronMan armor was metal. but the later armor (like the one shown) is supposed to be an alloy of sorts. so yeah, the plastic look does actually work for it.

I've no idea what the first robot was supposed to look like, but an alloy would also look like metal I'd imagine and not like cheap plastic coating.

I've no idea what the first robot was supposed to look like, but an alloy would also look like metal I'd imagine and not like cheap plastic coating.

Armor, not robot. tho with his pacemaker installed I guess he could fall into the catagory of Cyborg... :p

Most alloys would. but if taking the comic to heart. it's supposed to be nice and supershiny (some production crews were complaining that the armor showed the cameras in it's reflection while filming some sorta commercal for Stark Enterprises.)

besides. if it was made of steel, do you think poor R.J. would be able to move in it... much less fight in it? :D

oh and the first IronMan armor...
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1455/17773-iron-man_400.jpg

A recovering druggie playing a recovering alcoholic. Aside from the superhero bit that's a pretty sensible casting.

This is how I view Iron Man:
http://www.libertymeadows.com/uncengal/images/235.jpg

:D

http://209.85.48.8/237/117/upload/p701867.jpg

Has anyone else seen Iron Man? In a summer chalk full of huge movies, (Indiana Jones, The Dark Knight) Iron Man has already stood out in my mind as an amazing movie for its genre. It has more wit and smarts than Spiderman, and far more humor than Batman Begins. Frankly, it's right up there with those two genre-leading films, and I cannot wait for the sequel.

I'm hopefully going to see it tomorrow.

It's better than the average superhero movie, but it's still not the type of the film that I'd willingly pay to see, without incessant prodding from my friends, and a sufficient quantity of alcohol in my system.

I have no idea what you're talking about, and that robot looks plastic.

That's cause you're not cool.

That's cause you're not cool.

Coming from you, that's quite a nice thing. Thank you.

I don't like comic book movies at all. Possibly because I never really read many comic books but more probably because they're crap.

I don't like comic book movies at all. Possibly because I never really read many comic books but more probably because they're crap.

ahh... so you didn't like 300.

I don't like comic book movies at all. Possibly because I never really read many comic books but more probably because they're crap.

American Splendor was technically a comic book movie but it's hardly summer popcorn film material.

I'm not sure if it's 94% Tomatometer good, but it's a pretty good film. I'm still not entirely sold on the tenor of the film (Stark's failings seem to effectively disappear once he gets back, and he's got surprisingly little in the way of PTSD you'd expect after almost dying and being held in captivity for a month), but it was pretty solid. The villian Ironmonger was a better villian than could really be expected from the stable of Iron Man villians (mostly sendups to Fu Manchu).

And aside from Christopher Reeve, I can't think of an actor that looks more like his character than Robert Downey does Stark. That's a huge plus.

I'm not sure if it's 94% Tomatometer good, but it's a pretty good film. I'm still not entirely sold on the tenor of the film (Stark's failings seem to effectively disappear once he gets back, and he's got surprisingly little in the way of PTSD you'd expect after almost dying and being held in captivity for a month), but it was pretty solid. The villian Ironmonger was a better villian than could really be expected from the stable of Iron Man villians (mostly sendups to Fu Manchu).

And aside from Christopher Reeve, I can't think of an actor that looks more like his character than Robert Downey does Stark. That's a huge plus.

I like the guy they got to play Jameson in Spider-man.
then there's Sin City...

Of those who've seen it, the votes are more than promising :)

he's amazing in everything he's done.

This is how I view Iron Man:
http://www.libertymeadows.com/uncengal/images/235.jpg

:D

That is so cold. "Dude, you need help."

ahh... so you didn't like 300.

300 was a terrible movie. But I like it alot. Wierd, I know.

I really couldn't get passed all the stupid historignorants who claimed "ZOMG this is how the Battle of 300(As it is called by a lot of people I know who don't know what Thermopylae is... even though it is stated in the movie... blech), actually happened! ZOMG!!!!11!!One! It's like, 99.99% accurate!"

Of course, anyone who has spent 5 minutes looking into it realize this is not true, but most people just... don't... get it. That said, I don't blame the film, nor the comic for this(For its supposed to be glorified and whatnot), but the fans of it. This all said, it was terrible. :P

I have not seen it yet, but from everyone who has, it was good. I will for sure be putting it on my to see list.

300 was a terrible movie. But I like it alot. Wierd, I know.

It was a great action movie and great "guys" movie. It's never going to win any awards, but it's still amazing in its own right. Predator is one of my all-time favorite films. Not because it makes me think, or has an amazing message, but because it is damn entertaining. Not all films need to be deep. Some just need explosions. Some just need gore. Some just need to be mindless fun fests.

ahh... so you didn't like 300.

You're right. It was one of those films where you feel resentful as you hand over your $10 because you know it isn't going to be worth it.

I went to see it the day it opened. May 1st here being a public holiday so I had nowt to do.
I really enjoyed it. They managed to set the scene quickly enough not to make it long-winded and dull. And had plenty enough action to keep you entertained. There were a couple of deux ex's in there, but were minor enough that one could ignore them. It is a comic book adaption afterall.
I'd rate it alongside X-Men I in terms of how well they set up the story. Wayyyy better than F4. but then, everything is.
Only qualm I have with it is that it showed Stark to be a fun-loving playboy and not an alcoholic. That was one of the best things about Iron Man in the comics - that he had really bad personal problems. Hopefully, this will be explored in the sequel (which there obviously will be, and it was hinted at the end when James Rhodes sees a 2nd Iron Man suit and says, "Next time, definitely!").



As for Fass - why does anyone bother replying to his missives? He only posts in these threads to troll and to display to the world just how terribly cultured and intelligent he is, much more so than the rest of us who might actually enjoy a bit of escapism now and then. Any reply just allows him the opportunity to write scathing replies and put-downs, and bolster his own fragile ego by loftily declaring, "I am a pompous ass!".
whoops, sorry. Try that again: by loftily declaring in ringing tones, "I never watch these sorts of movies (ie. ones designed to entertain). I only watch films which I have been told are oh-so incredibly intelligent and clever. Why only the other day I watched one which had a man staring at an egg for 40 minutes, all shot in grainy b+w 16mm. It was very compelling and explored the deep relationship between man's inhumanity to man. Or so the lecturer in film studies at my local polytechnic told me, so it must be true."
Actually, "I am a pompous ass!" sums it up succintly and rather eloquently.

As for Fass - why does anyone bother replying to his missives? He only posts in these threads to troll and to display to the world just how terribly cultured and intelligent he is, much more so than the rest of us who might actually enjoy a bit of escapism now and then. Any reply just allows him the opportunity to write scathing replies and put-downs, and bolster his own fragile ego by loftily declaring, "I am a pompous ass!".
whoops, sorry. Try that again: by loftily declaring in ringing tones, "I never watch these sorts of movies (ie. ones designed to entertain). I only watch films which I have been told are oh-so incredibly intelligent and clever. Why only the other day I watched one which had a man staring at an egg for 40 minutes, all shot in grainy b+w 16mm. It was very compelling and explored the deep relationship between man's inhumanity to man. Or so the lecturer in film studies at my local polytechnic told me, so it must be true."
Actually, "I am a pompous ass!" sums it up succintly and rather eloquently.

I saw that film and you COMPLETELY missed the point. It explores the deep relationship between a man and an egg and makes the point that if you want to scramble that egg then, hey, it's probably not going to happen by magic.

I went to see it the day it opened. May 1st here being a public holiday so I had nowt to do.
I really enjoyed it. They managed to set the scene quickly enough not to make it long-winded and dull. And had plenty enough action to keep you entertained. There were a couple of deux ex's in there, but were minor enough that one could ignore them. It is a comic book adaption afterall.
I'd rate it alongside X-Men I in terms of how well they set up the story. Wayyyy better than F4. but then, everything is.
Only qualm I have with it is that it showed Stark to be a fun-loving playboy and not an alcoholic. That was one of the best things about Iron Man in the comics - that he had really bad personal problems. Hopefully, this will be explored in the sequel (which there obviously will be, and it was hinted at the end when James Rhodes sees a 2nd Iron Man suit and says, "Next time, definitely!").

I was wondering if they included him. As for the alcoholism, in the continuities I'm familiar with it was gradually introduced. As you suggested they're probably saving that for the sequel. I'm assuming however that he was shown drinking relatively heavily and with at least one hang over to foreshadow that he might actually have a problem. Which (if any) Iron Man villain did they wind up using?

Haven't seen it yet, to broke to do so.

I was wondering if they included him. As for the alcoholism, in the continuities I'm familiar with it was gradually introduced. As you suggested they're probably saving that for the sequel. I'm assuming however that he was shown drinking relatively heavily and with at least one hang over to foreshadow that he might actually have a problem. Which (if any) Iron Man villain did they wind up using?

Haven't seen it yet, to broke to do so.

The Iron Monger. (Obadiah Stane (sp?))

As for his alcoholism, not yet but.. there are several ways to bring it in... PTSD catching up with him, going bankrupt (isnt that how it happened in one continuity?) etc.

As for Warmachine.. next time :D!

I was wondering if they included him. As for the alcoholism, in the continuities I'm familiar with it was gradually introduced. As you suggested they're probably saving that for the sequel. I'm assuming however that he was shown drinking relatively heavily and with at least one hang over to foreshadow that he might actually have a problem. Which (if any) Iron Man villain did they wind up using?

Haven't seen it yet, to broke to do so.
Oh, they certainly did show him drinking quite a bit at the start of the movie - including one humorous scene where he's in Afghanistan in a Humvee drinking whisky on the rocks. But it was made out he was a lovable, quick-witted and incredibly charming playboy rather than an alkie.
The little bit with Rhodes at the end reminded me of the series in Iron Man comics when Stark fell apart completely and Rhodes had to take over being Iron Man for a while until Tony sobered up. So that might play a part in the sequel.

I won't spoil the rest by saying what happens and who he fights. You'll just have to save up and go watch it yourself to find out!

The Iron Monger. (Obadiah Stane (sp?))

Ah, familiar with him. Just not the name "The Iron Monger". That form must predate/not exist in the continuities I'm familiar with. I remember him as a business rival that would hire/fund other villains.

As for his alcoholism, not yet but.. there are several ways to bring it in... PTSD catching up with him, going bankrupt (isn't that how it happened in one continuity?) etc.

I think so. Then there's the Ultimates continuity where he just doesn't give a fuck because he's dying.

I won't spoil the rest by saying what happens and who he fights. You'll just have to save up and go watch it yourself to find out!

Especialy for someone familiar with the continuity I don't see how knowing WHO the villain is would be much of a spoiler. Oh, the review I read mentioned Pepper (and the actress looked perfect for the part), was Happy in it too?

Especialy for someone familiar with the continuity I don't see how knowing WHO the villain is would be much of a spoiler. Oh, the review I read mentioned Pepper (and the actress looked perfect for the part), was Happy in it too?

The review is wrong.. Pepper comes accross as a person with a hard exterior but a very human inside.. very emotional and sometimes fragile)

Yes, a 94% fresh rating on rottentomatoes surely means the film must be awful, correct? Either way, you admitted yourself that you haven't even heard of the subject matter, much less watched the film, so your tone is unsurprising.

To be honest, while the comments on the tomato site made it look like a good movie to watch, the trailer really does make it look like a pretty average movie to me.

Especialy for someone familiar with the continuity I don't see how knowing WHO the villain is would be much of a spoiler. Oh, the review I read mentioned Pepper (and the actress looked perfect for the part), was Happy in it too?
But there's others reading this thread who might not know the story or continuity. Also, in the movie:
Stane wasn't a business rival but a partner in Stark industries. 1st 1/2 of the movie he's put across as a firm supporter and close family friend of Stark. Only in the 2nd half do we find out that he hates Stark and has tried to kill him so he can take control of the company. So knowing who the main villain is before seeing it does spoil the movie a tad.

Awesome. Ironman is one of my favourite super heros.

But there's others reading this thread who might not know the story or continuity. Also, in the movie:
Stane wasn't a business rival but a partner in Stark industries. 1st 1/2 of the movie he's put across as a firm supporter and close family friend of Stark. Only in the 2nd half do we find out that he hates Stark and has tried to kill him so he can take control of the company. So knowing who the main villain is before seeing it does spoil the movie a tad.

Well, I did expect someone to give me the villains "super villain" name not their civilian identity. I can see how the early post that mentioned EXACTLY who the villain was could be considered a bit of a spoiler, but to just say it was "The Iron Monger" is no more of a spoiler than if someone said in the first Spider-man Movie Spider-man fights the Green Goblin. It doesn't tell people who aren't in on the continuity that the Green Goblin is actually Norman Osborn and those who DO know the continuity are going to know what's up the moment he's introduced anyway.

Just saw Iron Man this afternoon. It was really good. The best part is, by far, Robert Downey's performance, but most of the acting was really good. The action was good, but there wasn't an enormous volume of it in the movie (which is absolutely fine for a movie which has to serve as an origin story).

To assign an arbitrary rating, I'm going to say 8/10. Highly recommended for anyone who's a fan of the genre, and I'd say there's considerable crossover potential.

It'll probably be the most fun I have in a movie theatre until July, when the Dark Knight comes out.

Interesting Wikipedia "fact": "The film's stars have signed on for two sequels, and Downey also cameos as Stark in the upcoming The Incredible Hulk."

I wonder if they're actually going to do something I was just thinking would be fun . . .

Do an origin movie for each of the original Avengers, then get the same actors and actresses back to do an Avengers movie.

(edit: This is why reading the WHOLE page is good)

"Favreau has also expressed interest in directing Downey as the character in an Avengers movie."

Well, I did expect someone to give me the villains "super villain" name not their civilian identity. I can see how the early post that mentioned EXACTLY who the villain was could be considered a bit of a spoiler, but to just say it was "The Iron Monger" is no more of a spoiler than if someone said in the first Spider-man Movie Spider-man fights the Green Goblin.
quite. But the fact they told you the villain's name was what I was objecting to, for reasons obvious to anyone who has seen the movie.
In fact, I can't recall if it's ever called "The Iron Monger" in the movie. But that's beside the point.
And for the first half, it isn't apparent at all who the main villain is. We are led to believe it's someone else entirely. Someone who I wouldn't be surprised to see in the sequel (as we don't see him killed).

Interesting Wikipedia "fact": "The film's stars have signed on for two sequels, and Downey also cameos as Stark in the upcoming The Incredible Hulk."

I wonder if they're actually going to do something I was just thinking would be fun . . .

Do an origin movie for each of the original Avengers, then get the same actors and actresses back to do an Avengers movie.

I think that's what they're trying to do. They just need to get Cap and Thor movies out ASAP for it to work. And y'know, manage to get all those people in one movie for anything like a reasonable price.

Interesting Wikipedia "fact": "The film's stars have signed on for two sequels, and Downey also cameos as Stark in the upcoming The Incredible Hulk.
The whole, "signed on for two more sequels" always has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's standard studio policy to do that these days. Doesn't actually mean they will make two more movies, or that the actors will even appear in them.

eg. The woman who played Deathstrike in X-Men II was signed on for two movies, even though she's obviously killed in the first one (by that I mean X-Men II, not I). It's just to cover the studio's ass in case the film is changed upon completion, and so any actors (eg. Hugh Jackman) who become huge because of the first movie are tied to lesser contracts. They couldn't make an X-Men IV now because too many A-list stars, too many egos, too much salary demands, and too much shooting co-ordination problems to get them all together again.

Looking forward to the Hulk sequel. For one it's co-written by Edward Norton and two, it can't possibly suck as much as the first. Good Lord, no.

when downey is in hell being tormented for all the terrible things he's done, this film will not be one of them... though to be honest it doesn't really move him all that much towards a better place

Interesting Wikipedia "fact": "The film's stars have signed on for two sequels, and Downey also cameos as Stark in the upcoming The Incredible Hulk."

I wonder if they're actually going to do something I was just thinking would be fun . . .

Do an origin movie for each of the original Avengers, then get the same actors and actresses back to do an Avengers movie.

(edit: This is why reading the WHOLE page is good)

"Favreau has also expressed interest in directing Downey as the character in an Avengers movie."
they're doing Origins for X-Men. starting with Wolvie...

The whole, "signed on for two more sequels" always has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's standard studio policy to do that these days. Doesn't actually mean they will make two more movies, or that the actors will even appear in them.

eg. The woman who played Deathstrike in X-Men II was signed on for two movies, even though she's obviously killed in the first one (by that I mean X-Men II, not I). It's just to cover the studio's ass in case the film is changed upon completion, and so any actors (eg. Hugh Jackman) who become huge because of the first movie are tied to lesser contracts. They couldn't make an X-Men IV now because too many A-list stars, too many egos, too much salary demands, and too much shooting co-ordination problems to get them all together again.

Looking forward to the Hulk sequel. For one it's co-written by Edward Norton and two, it can't possibly suck as much as the first. Good Lord, no.
except this is X-Men. chances are she'll be back. we can only assume that Cyclops is dead.

and Deathstrike can still make an appearance in the 'Origins' movies.

Well, back to the film... Estimated $201 million world wide gross since it opened.. not bad, not bad at all

The whole, "signed on for two more sequels" always has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's standard studio policy to do that these days. Doesn't actually mean they will make two more movies, or that the actors will even appear in them.

eg. The woman who played Deathstrike in X-Men II was signed on for two movies, even though she's obviously killed in the first one (by that I mean X-Men II, not I).

She was killed in an X-Men movie. That's not exactly a permanent state.

Looking forward to the Hulk sequel. For one it's co-written by Edward Norton and two, it can't possibly suck as much as the first. Good Lord, no.

Is it a sequel or are they ret-coning that piece of crap out of existence? Hell, we didn't even get to hear "Hulk Smash!"

She was killed in an X-Men movie. That's not exactly a permanent state.


Yes and No, we know Charles consciousness is not dead given that tiny bit at the end of the X-3 titles

But deathstrike is clearly pumped full of adamantium and solidified internally which i can not see anyway back from unless there were several of her created (not out of the ordinary considering Strykers character)

Finally saw Iron Man. For those who were saying that the movie didn't deal with his alcoholism I would counter that what I saw was the text book definition of a functional alcoholic. We just haven't seen him hit rock bottom yet, one more good hard shove and . . .

Finally saw Iron Man. For those who were saying that the movie didn't deal with his alcoholism I would counter that what I saw was the text book definition of a functional alcoholic. We just haven't seen him hit rock bottom yet, one more good hard shove and . . .

Add to that we see his personality virtually on the brink - the scene before he takes the mkIII to Afghanistan in anger

Yes and No, we know Charles consciousness is not dead given that tiny bit at the end of the X-3 titles

But deathstrike is clearly pumped full of adamantium and solidified internally which i can not see anyway back from unless there were several of her created (not out of the ordinary considering Strykers character)

You forget the only element in the Marvel universe stronger than Adamantium, Plotdeviceium. If they want her back then they'll technobabel the whosimawhatsit until she's alive again. Besides, doesn't she have a healing ability similar to Wolverines (in the movie at least)?

You forget the only element in the Marvel universe stronger than Adamantium, Plotdeviceium. If they want her back then they'll technobabel the whosimawhatsit until she's alive again. Besides, doesn't she have a healing ability similar to Wolverines (in the movie at least)?

I'm not to sure on that one, though its a distinct possibility. I hope to god she's in the origin story and that is explained to us.

Plotdeviceium should never be used in a movie as it can cause it to tank.. badly.. (Blade 3, the other Whistler, X3.. with that last scene, destroying the characters ethics completly.. ftw!)

Oh, pardon me for not buying the OP's opinion on the matter. I forget that these threads are supposed to be circle-jerks where only those who agree can post without being labelled as "interjecting why everything and everyone who isn't him sucks", because I forget how defensive you lot are of your fragile, little opinions. I shall remember to only post when I agree with something.

Technically, ignorance isn't an opinion. Even ignorance of a summer superhero movie.

I'm not really into superhero movies. I prefer my escapism epic style, a la Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. I may end up seeing this one, though, because movie theaters are air-conditioned and mine recently died. I figure that if I buy a bunch of tickets in bulk, it will be cheaper than the combined air conditioner/electricity bill cost.

Not a comic fan but do enjoy superhero movies ... this one was pretty good (just saw it a few hours ago) was entertaining and I think the casting was pretty good

Well, back to the film... Estimated $201 million world wide gross since it opened.. not bad, not bad at all

That's about five times more than Thankyou for Smoking got total.. and people ask why hollywood only serves up this sort of fare.

Not a comic fan but do enjoy superhero movies ... this one was pretty good (just saw it a few hours ago) was entertaining and I think the casting was pretty good

I think it was one of best movies I've seen in a long time and in the top three of all time superhero films.

Only qualm I have with it is that it showed Stark to be a fun-loving playboy and not an alcoholic. That was one of the best things about Iron Man in the comics - that he had really bad personal problems. Hopefully, this will be explored in the sequel (which there obviously will be, and it was hinted at the end when James Rhodes sees a 2nd Iron Man suit and says, "Next time, definitely!").

As a point, Stark wasn't really a serious alcoholic until after his capture and imprisonment. Prior to that he really was a fun-loving, womanizing playboy and not a depressed alcoholic. So it's true to form. His alcoholism only became a major plot point after he became Iron Man; after Obidiah Stane pushed him out of Stark Industries and he became a homeless bum.

I saw it on Friday, and was pleasantly surprised. I have been both wowed and dismayed by comic book movies that I have gone to the theatre to see (ranging from Batman Begins all the way down to The Hulk), but Iron Man is probably the best movie of the genre I've seen with the possible exception of X-Men 2.

Downey is excellent as Stark, and unlike most movies of this type, the effects are not overdone. Yes they are a large aspect of the movie, but they could have made things even flashier. Instead they managed to make a good film that blends action, drama and comedy quite well.

I paid $7 and was quite pleased. Any fan of Iron Man, or the comic book genre, will be satisfied.

Interesting Wikipedia "fact": "The film's stars have signed on for two sequels, and Downey also cameos as Stark in the upcoming The Incredible Hulk."

I wonder if they're actually going to do something I was just thinking would be fun . . .

Do an origin movie for each of the original Avengers, then get the same actors and actresses back to do an Avengers movie.

(edit: This is why reading the WHOLE page is good)

"Favreau has also expressed interest in directing Downey as the character in an Avengers movie."

Am I the only one who stuck around until the credits ended???

Am I the only one who stuck around until the credits ended??? :D

I did because my friend had caught wind of the ending ahead of time. I think, with Marvel now producing all these films in-house, we'll be able to see a lot more of these cameos and cross overs than was previously possible with rival studios producing their films. I think it'll make the movies more like the comics. As long as they are able to preserve actor continuity.

I did because my friend had caught wind of the ending ahead of time. I think, with Marvel now producing all these films in-house, we'll be able to see a lot more of these cameos and cross overs than was previously possible with rival studios producing their films. I think it'll make the movies more like the comics. As long as they are able to preserve actor continuity.

That's the tough part, but if Iron Man is any indication, it'll start being easier as the quality of the films being released improves.

Snip


Am I the only one who stuck around until the credits ended???

No I did as well :)

Perusing your links, especially the youtube one, I contest that.

Well, once they can make feature length movies to fit in the youtube video timeslot, I'd listen.

That's about five times more than Thankyou for Smoking got total.. and people ask why hollywood only serves up this sort of fare.

well, it's a capitalist economy, they sell what sells.

Do an origin movie for each of the original Avengers, then get the same actors and actresses back to do an Avengers movie.

"Favreau has also expressed interest in directing Downey as the character in an Avengers movie."

I thought for a moment you were talking quirky British TV show :(

Meh I saw it, it was alright, I wasn't too impressed with it like I was with "Batman Begins" though. It's pretty much there with Spiderman.

Oh, pardon me for not buying the OP's opinion on the matter. I forget that these threads are supposed to be circle-jerks where only those who agree can post without being labelled as "interjecting why everything and everyone who isn't him sucks", because I forget how defensive you lot are of your fragile, little opinions. I shall remember to only post when I agree with something.

Oh, wait, I won't bullshit you. I won't remember that.

I thought you were into circle-jerks...

Yes and No, we know Charles consciousness is not dead given that tiny bit at the end of the X-3 titles

But deathstrike is clearly pumped full of adamantium and solidified internally which i can not see anyway back from unless there were several of her created (not out of the ordinary considering Strykers character)
and she has a hyper healing ability, same as wolvie. so is she dead, or just feeling a bit bloated?

Am I the only one who stuck around until the credits ended??? you'ld think that people would start staying till the end of the credits after all the other movies that have come and gone...

As for Fass - why does anyone bother replying to his missives? He only posts in these threads to troll and to display to the world just how terribly cultured and intelligent he is, much more so than the rest of us who might actually enjoy a bit of escapism now and then. Any reply just allows him the opportunity to write scathing replies and put-downs, and bolster his own fragile ego by loftily declaring, "I am a pompous ass!".
whoops, sorry. Try that again: by loftily declaring in ringing tones, "I never watch these sorts of movies (ie. ones designed to entertain). I only watch films which I have been told are oh-so incredibly intelligent and clever. Why only the other day I watched one which had a man staring at an egg for 40 minutes, all shot in grainy b+w 16mm. It was very compelling and explored the deep relationship between man's inhumanity to man. Or so the lecturer in film studies at my local polytechnic told me, so it must be true."
Actually, "I am a pompous ass!" sums it up succintly and rather eloquently.
I replied to Fass because he stated he didn't know about the Iron Man character. I don't expect him to drop everything and go see it, but I will be polite to him as long as he's polite to me.

I've never understood the idea that if someone's an 'asshole' they will always be an 'asshole' in everything they do.

If people want to reply to Fass they should have the option to do so, and Fass should have the option to post whatever the hell he feels like posting (as long as it's within the site's guidlines.)

I very much enjoyed it. I'm glad they're finally doing comic book movies right. =)

I replied to Fass because he stated he didn't know about the Iron Man character. I don't expect him to drop everything and go see it, but I will be polite to him as long as he's polite to me.

I've never understood the idea that if someone's an 'asshole' they will always be an 'asshole' in everything they do.

If people want to reply to Fass they should have the option to do so, and Fass should have the option to post whatever the hell he feels like posting (as long as it's within the site's guidlines.)

Exactly, if Fass (or anyone else) bothers you that much, there is always the ignore function.

well, it's a capitalist economy, they sell what sells.

Exactly. So next time someone moans about Hollywood's output, here's their answer.

and she has a hyper healing ability, same as wolvie. so is she dead, or just feeling a bit bloated?
I understood Deathstrike (at least in the comics) as not having anything of the sort. Wolvie survived the adamantium process because of his healing ability but Deathstrike had it done to her magically.
*X-Men geek*

Plotdeviceium should never be used in a movie as it can cause it to tank.. badly.. (Blade 3, the other Whistler, X3.. with that last scene, destroying the characters ethics completly.. ftw!)
you forgot to mention the worst movie abortion that was created using Plotdeviceium: Highlander II.
*shudder*

I understood Deathstrike (at least in the comics) as not having anything of the sort. Wolvie survived the adamantium process because of his healing ability but Deathstrike had it done to her magically.
*X-Men geek*
well, in the comics, Mojo made her into a cyborg with a self-repair function.

in the movie, when she and wovlie fight, you do see her healing like wolive.