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African American grade schoolers: Bad system or dont give a shit?

Intestinal fluids
02-05-2008, 20:34
Im a substitute teacher for a wealthy school district with no real lack of resources. Im a substitute and not a full time teacher so my observations have to be taken from this limited viewpoint but it is what it is. Last week, i taught 9th grade english and proctored an exam. Of the approx 140 students that were of all ethnic mixes except for African American, every single test was at least mostly completed. Of the approx 9 African American students in class, three of them submitted a blank test with nothing but thier names, three more were done in what could be described at best as half assed and very partially completed and the two or three in balance completed it as they should have (and one of them had an adult minder with him to make sure it got done).

Another example in 11 grade English class today. An African American student after completing a test decided he was done and was leaving the class. I instructed him that i had no such permission to allow anyone to leave and to just quietly sit till everyone else finished thier test. He just got up and left. This happened twice today, and both kids were African American. Ive never had a non African American kid just get up and ignore me and leave a classroom before.

It seems there is a problem here. Is it African American children not giving a shit or are they trying to prove some self destructive point? Or is it a failure of the system for not teaching the kids better? Is it the systems fault if they let poor student behavior and performance slide even though addressing it might get you called racist? And can you ultimatly teach a child that just doesnt seem to give a shit and doesnt appear to want to change his/her view on it any time soon despite your efforts?
Khadgar
02-05-2008, 20:39
If all the other students are doing fine how is it the system's failure?
The blessed Chris
02-05-2008, 20:40
Give them a few chances, then fuck it. At some point, however much they might cite mitigating circumstances and deprivation, one has to take responsibility for one's own life.
Cybach
02-05-2008, 20:45
Racist!!! Just kidding. No but in all honesty I think it is a cultural issue. There is, in my personal view and in the eyes of most scientists no racial hinderance in intelligence or smartness in people stemming from Africa. I just believe a lot of it is simply cultural. African-American culture in particular is very disdainful towards education. Jewish culture, Asian and Indian is very adamant in their pushing for education. European is somewhere between the two extremes in my view.

The only solution in my view is not solved with money or lessening the poverty lines of African-Americans [because the way to that "Education" seems to be what's a stumbling block...]. But simply get people in the African-American community to realize that certain aspects of "black culture" should simply be scrapped for the betterment of all African-Americans. Same people such as "whiggers" should be discouraged from emulating the negative sides of "black culture," there is so much cultural wealth and artistic expression connected to Africa. Why pick the one that is the detriment [gangs, drugs, misogyny, etc..] of the black society as a whole?
The_pantless_hero
02-05-2008, 20:46
Something is going inherently and horribly wrong in the raising children department of black communities.
The problem is the negative side of the culture is the side being passed on and reinforced.
Gothicbob
02-05-2008, 20:53
Something is going inherently and horribly wrong in the raising children department of black communities.
The problem is the negative side of the culture is the side being passed on and reinforced.

Got it in one!
Dontgonearthere
02-05-2008, 20:55
Something is going inherently and horribly wrong in the raising children department of black communities.
The problem is the negative side of the culture is the side being passed on and reinforced.

That, combined with the tradition of 'SMART PEOPLE SUK LOL' which got ingrained into society at some point in the early 20th century.
I blame Communism.
Ashmoria
02-05-2008, 20:59
the scary thing is that you are not subbing in a poor ghetto school where the parents are too damaged to be paying attention to their kids. you are subbing in a wealthy district where the parents have to have their lives together and be hard working educated people or they couldnt afford to live there. they probably moved to that area so that their kids could go to that school.

so where is the disconnect between the probable excellent work habits of the parents and this "refuse to be part of the system" attitude of their children?
Knights of Liberty
02-05-2008, 21:07
This thread wont end well. Ones the usual suspects show up, this will just become proof that black people are inferior and criminals.



Anyway...a question. How many of your white/latino/asian students did the same things? Ive seen white students do just as you described in my experiances with these tests.
The blessed Chris
02-05-2008, 21:11
This thread wont end well. Ones the usual suspects show up, this will just become proof that black people are inferior and criminals.



Anyway...a question. How many of your white/latino/asian students did the same things? Ive seen white students do just as you described in my experiances with these tests.

Well, yes, but all the same, what IF is noting is that a high proportion of Afro-Americans do so. I suspect it owes much to prevailing cultural values, prevailing disaffection, and prevailing deprivation, however, what defines one is not where, or into what, one is born, but one does from there.
Knights of Liberty
02-05-2008, 21:13
Well, yes, but all the same, what IF is noting is that a high proportion of Afro-Americans do so. I suspect it owes much to prevailing cultural values, prevailing disaffection, and prevailing deprivation, however, what defines one is not where, or into what, one is born, but one does from there.

Id agree with this. I just would be skeptical if only African Americans acted like this. This sounds like the typical teenage "Fuck authority I dont give a shit about anything!"
Intestinal fluids
02-05-2008, 21:14
This thread wont end well. Ones the usual suspects show up, this will just become proof that black people are inferior and criminals.


I cant control how threads end. I can only ask a question based on personal observation and wonder if this observation allows any conclusions to be drawn or not.

Anyway...a question. How many of your white/latino/asian students did the same things? Ive seen white students do just as you described in my experiances with these tests.

"Of the approx 140 students that were of all ethnic mixes except for African American, every single test was at least mostly completed. "
Tmutarakhan
02-05-2008, 21:14
If it "helps", I should point out that I have had a lot of white students with equally bad attitudes. But then, I'm in Detroit...
Ashmoria
02-05-2008, 21:16
"Of the approx 140 students that were of all ethnic mixes except for African American, every single test was at least mostly completed. "

sounds like kids banding together and acting the way they think black kids should act if they werent stuck in some wealthy suburb somewhere.
The blessed Chris
02-05-2008, 21:20
Id agree with this. I just would be skeptical if only African Americans acted like this. This sounds like the typical teenage "Fuck authority I dont give a shit about anything!"

If, as IF says, he/she teaches in a relatively wealthy area, the whole "fuck authority" petty nihilism bollocks is unlikely to manifest itself in failed tests for rich white children. They are more likely to rebel via social activities, and retain a visage of success to continue their social life.

I'm unable to comment on Latin kids; they're not a cultural group the UK has, apart from in GTA.
Sygneros
02-05-2008, 21:34
Personally speaking, I think several things contribute to the view of "Why da fuck do I want to be educated?"(which is not just found in blacks, I have witnessed whites, Asians, and hispanics all portraying this view point).
The media is one. Music is one such outlet, I have heard numerous rap and metal songs (the two most listened to music genres in my area), for lack of a better term, bashing education.
Another thing that I'm sure contributes to this viewpoint is the teenager's natural rebelliousness, which I'm sure manifests itself in school more than at home because parents aren't there to monitor kids at school.
The last contributor to this view point, I think, is the teachers and the parents. I have met many a teacher who come to school to get paid. They don't care if their students fail their tests and quizzes, as long as that paycheck rolls in. And I have met parents who have a similar mindset. For example, I met a child who's father taught him how to work on vehicles. The kid is very good at this, so his father claims. And guess what this father thinks about school? He thinks that his son doesn't need it, for he already has all the skills (working on vehicles) that he needs to succeed in life.

As a final note, do not think I'm trying to direct the blade elsewhere, kids are as much to blame for most of this as the listed people are.
greed and death
02-05-2008, 21:56
get this poster http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/wwadr1s.jpg

put it in your class room. Explain to all students before they do anything in your class or school they must ask themselves "What would Asians do?"
sometimes interject that question when dealing with students, and make the student explain why Asians would do that.
problem solved
Igneria
02-05-2008, 21:57
I think the question was more "why do black kids do this more than other kids?" rather than "why is this done?". The answer as many have pointed out is cultural. Pre- civil war (and even to a lesser extent after the civil war) blacks were not allowed to get an education. As a result, they acted similarly to the fox and the sour grapes story (a story in which a fox cannot reach a grape vine and decides that the grapes were sour and he doesn't want them) and decided education was no good anyway. We would assume that these ideas would be cast away quickly, but one of the key elements of change is education (which they devalued). An educated group is inherently more liberal and therefore change is easy, but an uneducated group is more conseervative, and therefore it may take decades for the culture to change.
Entropic Creation
02-05-2008, 22:05
Black students tend to have a very negative attitude towards school because it is seen as 'acting white'. They feel that they should embrace ignorance and not be oppressed by the white man (by actually behaving or paying attention in school). When a teacher tries to discipline a black student, or even discuss disruptive behavior with the parents, they are labeled as racist.

I fully support teachers just ignoring disruptive black kids to focus on those children who are actually there to learn. Spending all your time and energy struggling with disruptive students and the bad press of racist agitators is simply a disservice to the other students.

This is one of the many reasons why I am strongly opposed to the theory of just mixing everyone together in schools. It should be greatly segregated by ability. This will obviously result in a disproportionate number of black children in the most remedial classes, but that is not due to racism, so I see nothing wrong with it. Otherwise education proceeds at the pace of the slowest student, and since you cannot force someone to learn if they do not want to, everyone loses, and you end up with our pathetic public education system.

Unfortunately this would cause further social problems for the bright black students who already have to hide their ability so other blacks do not know they are doing well. Pretending to be just as disruptive but doing well on tests is easier to avoid the 'acting white' disapprobation than being in the 'white' class.
Neo Kervoskia
02-05-2008, 22:09
There are no black people in China.
Skalvia
02-05-2008, 22:15
I was a sub too...and ive seen lots of shit kids...

But, it wasnt a Black/White thing...It was usually an economic situation (or a wannabe economic situation) thing...There were shit kids of all races, but, it was coincidence that there were more Blacks than Whites...

Ive taught good and bad of all, its just pretty predictable which ones are the Spawns of Satan...its the ones that thing theyre "Gangsta", or "Ghetto"...and get into that bullshit...
Greater Somalia
02-05-2008, 22:27
Well, these kids need their own role models and I'm not talking about hip-hop singers or athletes. I'm talking about Black doctors, engineers and so on.
Greater Somalia
02-05-2008, 22:28
There are no black people in China.

Wanna make a bet?
Neo Kervoskia
02-05-2008, 22:29
Well, these kids need their own role models and I'm not talking about hip-hop singers or athletes. I'm talking about Black doctors, engineers and so on.

http://z.about.com/d/huntsville/1/0/D/v/1/billcosby.jpg
Dr Huxtable?
Glorious Freedonia
02-05-2008, 22:30
Id agree with this. I just would be skeptical if only African Americans acted like this. This sounds like the typical teenage "Fuck authority I dont give a shit about anything!"

Yeah and I think you get a bit more of that by the black kids. I went high school with this one black and he had a chip on his shoulder and was a badass and all that. Then he went to jail and realized he had been a nincompoop and now he is a decent guy. We did not have a lot of blacks and our school sounds like the kind that the OP teaches in.

Anybody who denies that the American blacks are messed up is a PC dummy. However, this messedupedness is not genetic because it is curable by the messed up black basically realizing that he has been behaving like a nincompoop and deciding to quit being stupid.

The awful thing is that this black nincompoopery (I just love the word nincompoop) is contagious. It seems like more and more youth of all races are increasingly acting like wierdos. I am pretty sure that unwed pregnancies is on the rise among all races. I am not all that old. I am 30. When I was is high school there was maybe 5% of my class who was either expecting a child or already had one and at least 1/5 of them were married. I thought that was high at the time. Nowadays I think that my graduating class was pretty low.

This is ridiculous and I chalk it up to this wierd notion of it being cool to act like some messed up child of a junkie from the ghetto. I really do not understand it but if this trend continues I guarantee you that the USA will be third world country in two generations.
Glorious Freedonia
02-05-2008, 22:33
Black students tend to have a very negative attitude towards school because it is seen as 'acting white'. They feel that they should embrace ignorance and not be oppressed by the white man (by actually behaving or paying attention in school). When a teacher tries to discipline a black student, or even discuss disruptive behavior with the parents, they are labeled as racist.

I fully support teachers just ignoring disruptive black kids to focus on those children who are actually there to learn. Spending all your time and energy struggling with disruptive students and the bad press of racist agitators is simply a disservice to the other students.

This is one of the many reasons why I am strongly opposed to the theory of just mixing everyone together in schools. It should be greatly segregated by ability. This will obviously result in a disproportionate number of black children in the most remedial classes, but that is not due to racism, so I see nothing wrong with it. Otherwise education proceeds at the pace of the slowest student, and since you cannot force someone to learn if they do not want to, everyone loses, and you end up with our pathetic public education system.

Unfortunately this would cause further social problems for the bright black students who already have to hide their ability so other blacks do not know they are doing well. Pretending to be just as disruptive but doing well on tests is easier to avoid the 'acting white' disapprobation than being in the 'white' class.

You have very good points. Education is not something that can be given to somebody who does not want it. I believe that the greek root of education is educare which i have been told means to lead out of ignorance. I think that is a great definition of education because the teacher is the leader of the willing student not the doctor who injects education into your vein with a syringe.
[NS]Click Stand
02-05-2008, 22:43
I fully support teachers just ignoring disruptive black kids to focus on those children who are actually there to learn. Spending all your time and energy struggling with disruptive students and the bad press of racist agitators is simply a disservice to the other students.

Hopefully I am not misunderstanding you but, are you saying we should only ignore the disruptive students (not that I agree) who are black? Such as if a white student was being disruptive to you, you wouldn't want them to be ignored.

If true, you sir are a racist. If not, then sorry for the misunderstanding.
Greater Somalia
02-05-2008, 22:52
African Americans were present in America for like over 300 years and they just recently (60s) got the rights to "climb up the ladder" just like anyone else in America. It's like telling one particular runner in a race to wait while the rest of the racers start sprinting and then after a minute you tell that one particular racer to start running. African Americans are late-starters in every competition and they only excel in sports because in that field, you don't need any connections/ties whatsoever.
Entropic Creation
02-05-2008, 23:00
Click Stand;13662993']Hopefully I am not misunderstanding you but, are you saying we should only ignore the disruptive students (not that I agree) who are black? Such as if a white student was being disruptive to you, you wouldn't want them to be ignored.

If true, you sir are a racist. If not, then sorry for the misunderstanding.

The OP was referencing a couple of black students who were being disruptive, and my comment was specific to that situation (I apologize for not being clearer). As you can see by my later comment of separating students by ability (not race, though acknowledging an unfortunate racial effect), that I am fairly race-blind when it comes to policies.

I do not care what the skin color or ethnic background may be, disruptive students need to be segregated from those trying to learn. By screening students into classes by ability, everyone's education is maximized.
Heinleinites
02-05-2008, 23:14
I don't know, given your previous thread about Africa, and the general tone of it and this, I suspect that these are less 'serious attempts to discuss something', and more 'passive-aggressive statements about how you dislike black people.'

I personally don't give a damn if you do dislike black people, it's unlikely to impact me or mine in any meaningful way, but you should have the courage of your convictions.
Dyakovo
02-05-2008, 23:16
I'm a substitute teacher for a wealthy school district with no real lack of resources. I'm a substitute and not a full time teacher so my observations have to be taken from this limited viewpoint but it is what it is. Last week, i taught 9th grade English and proctored an exam. Of the approx 140 students that were of all ethnic mixes except for African American, every single test was at least mostly completed. Of the approx 9 African American students in class, three of them submitted a blank test with nothing but their names, three more were done in what could be described at best as half-assed and very partially completed and the two or three in balance completed it as they should have (and one of them had an adult minder with him to make sure it got done).

Another example in 11 grade English class today. An African American student after completing a test decided he was done and was leaving the class. I instructed him that i had no such permission to allow anyone to leave and to just quietly sit till everyone else finished their test. He just got up and left. This happened twice today, and both kids were African American. Ive never had a non African American kid just get up and ignore me and leave a classroom before.

It seems there is a problem here. Is it African American children not giving a shit or are they trying to prove some self destructive point? Or is it a failure of the system for not teaching the kids better? Is it the systems fault if they let poor student behavior and performance slide even though addressing it might get you called racist? And can you ultimately teach a child that just doesn't seem to give a shit and doesn't appear to want to change his/her view on it any time soon despite your efforts?

It is certainly a case of those particular kids not giving a shit...

Also fixed spelling errors...
Kirchensittenbach
02-05-2008, 23:24
This thread wont end well. Ones the usual suspects show up, this will just become proof that black people are inferior and criminals.


Youre just waiting for me to say something arent you? :D

at this point, do i really have to?

just by reading the intro post to this thread clearly shows those kids have both a disregard for authority and a lack of concern for bettering themselves through education

just focus on those students who care about education/ have a sense of duty to stay in school, and let the rest fall through the cracks and end up on the police hit list

Reality TV cop shows need new blood, and if the black kids stayed in school like they were supposed to, we couldnt see them on Reality TV getting their ass handed to them in funny ways

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwe2y5j6CVU&feature=related
:):p:D
Jhahannam
02-05-2008, 23:32
As in all instances where the sensitive and volatile issue of race and/or darkies comes up, it is best to pay heed to the most insightful and authentic source:

Uncle Ruckus.

And what would he share with us?

That if there is some observation that disproportionate propensity for a behavioural trend among any group, be it ethnic, economic, or any of the overlapping cultural and social characteristics associated thereto, it can never excuse the fact that educating negrahs flies in the face of white jesus.
Igneria
03-05-2008, 03:08
As in all instances where the sensitive and volatile issue of race and/or darkies comes up, it is best to pay heed to the most insightful and authentic source:

Uncle Ruckus.

And what would he share with us?

That if there is some observation that disproportionate propensity for a behavioural trend among any group, be it ethnic, economic, or any of the overlapping cultural and social characteristics associated thereto, it can never excuse the fact that educating negrahs flies in the face of white jesus.

what? white jesus? either you english is terrible or your facts are. Probably both since that sentence made no sense and jesus wasn't white. (he was some shade of brown)
Dyakovo
03-05-2008, 03:11
what? white jesus? either you english is terrible or your facts are. Probably both since that sentence made no sense and jesus wasn't white. (he was some shade of brown)

What evidence do you have for that?
(Jha wasn't here to say it)
greed and death
03-05-2008, 03:11
what? white jesus? either you english is terrible or your facts are. Probably both since that sentence made no sense and jesus wasn't white. (he was some shade of brown)

its A quote off of boondocks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boondocks_(TV_series)
Celtlund II
03-05-2008, 03:28
Im a substitute teacher for a wealthy school district with no real lack of resources. Im a substitute and not a full time teacher so my observations have to be taken from this limited viewpoint but it is what it is. Last week, i taught 9th grade english and proctored an exam. Of the approx 140 students that were of all ethnic mixes except for African American, every single test was at least mostly completed. Of the approx 9 African American students in class, three of them submitted a blank test with nothing but thier names, three more were done in what could be described at best as half assed and very partially completed and the two or three in balance completed it as they should have (and one of them had an adult minder with him to make sure it got done).

Another example in 11 grade English class today. An African American student after completing a test decided he was done and was leaving the class. I instructed him that i had no such permission to allow anyone to leave and to just quietly sit till everyone else finished thier test. He just got up and left. This happened twice today, and both kids were African American. Ive never had a non African American kid just get up and ignore me and leave a classroom before.

It seems there is a problem here. Is it African American children not giving a shit or are they trying to prove some self destructive point? Or is it a failure of the system for not teaching the kids better? Is it the systems fault if they let poor student behavior and performance slide even though addressing it might get you called racist? And can you ultimatly teach a child that just doesnt seem to give a shit and doesnt appear to want to change his/her view on it any time soon despite your efforts?

Considering the number of errors you have made in the above posting I can only conclude you are either a troll of a very incompetent substitute English teacher. :eek: So, which is it? (run the op through a check in MS Word or other program with spelling and grammar check.)
Celtlund II
03-05-2008, 03:30
(he was some shade of brown)

Or black. :eek:
Celtlund II
03-05-2008, 03:36
If it "helps", I should point out that I have had a lot of white students with equally bad attitudes. But then, I'm in Detroit...

Detroit...you teach in Detroit? Do you get combat pay? Have you ever considered joining the Marines? They sure could use someone like you with all that combat experience and all.
Celtlund II
03-05-2008, 03:41
I think the question was more "why do black kids do this more than other kids?" rather than "why is this done?". The answer as many have pointed out is cultural. Pre- civil war (and even to a lesser extent after the civil war) blacks were not allowed to get an education.

So, you are blaming slavery which ended over 100 years ago? So, you are blaming segregation that ended 50 years ago? Why not blame those who don't value an education?
New Manvir
03-05-2008, 03:53
That, combined with the tradition of 'SMART PEOPLE SUK LOL' which got ingrained into society at some point in the early 20th century.
I blame Communism.

You would blame Communism, you bourgeois elitist oppressor of the workers.

Bourgeois is the hardest world to spell EVER, BTW.
Ryadn
03-05-2008, 05:03
So out of 140 kids in a rich school, there were 9 black children. And they displayed oppositional-defiant behavior. What a shock. Imagine being one of only a handful of white kids in a school of black kids. How would you feel?

As a substitute teacher myself, I have noticed a shocking difference in the way children of different races are treated and taught. Just yesterday I worked in a special ed class that had two black children who weren't even special needs--one had what the teacher described as a "rough childhood" (they were 9) and the other had ADD. Both were bright, personable, helpful and on-task, and completed all their work. There was no reason they should have been in a special class.

I've also seen black boys put in special ed for "behavioral problems" because teachers didn't know how or didn't feel like managing their classrooms effectively. It's disgusting.
Jhahannam
03-05-2008, 05:15
what? white jesus? either you english is terrible or your facts are. Probably both since that sentence made no sense and jesus wasn't white. (he was some shade of brown)

Yes, me English is terrible.

And you perceptive acumen for satire is impressive.


Anyway, Jesus was so white. See, Mary was a Jew and Joseph was blacker than Wesley Snipes standing in Johnny Cash's closet with the lights off, and it is a commonly known fact that white people are just the depolarized offspring of Jews and negroes.

Look it up.
Jhahannam
03-05-2008, 05:19
So out of 140 kids in a rich school, there were 9 black children. And they displayed oppositional-defiant behavior. What a shock. Imagine being one of only a handful of white kids in a school of black kids. How would you feel?

As a substitute teacher myself, I have noticed a shocking difference in the way children of different races are treated and taught. Just yesterday I worked in a special ed class that had two black children who weren't even special needs--one had what the teacher described as a "rough childhood" (they were 9) and the other had ADD. Both were bright, personable, helpful and on-task, and completed all their work. There was no reason they should have been in a special class.

I've also seen black boys put in special ed for "behavioral problems" because teachers didn't know how or didn't feel like managing their classrooms effectively. It's disgusting.

I've been a licensed substitute teacher in very challenging districts, and I'd like to educate you on some simple facts that are obviously ignorant of:

The black kids are not necessarily wrongly shunted into special ed just because they don't fit any reasonable criteria that would justify the decision. Rather, they could be there because:

a) Black people multiply asexually and spontaneously if you get water on them and

b) If you feed them after midnight, they form a grotesque chrysalis around themselves and emerge as malevolent reptiles.

A special ed class simply provides a safer environment for these kinds of people, and their federally mandated individual education plan should reflect this.
Geniasis
03-05-2008, 05:46
I've been a licensed substitute teacher in very challenging districts, and I'd like to educate you on some simple facts that are obviously ignorant of:

The black kids are not necessarily wrongly shunted into special ed just because they don't fit any reasonable criteria that would justify the decision. Rather, they could be there because:

a) Black people multiply asexually and spontaneously if you get water on them and

b) If you feed them after midnight, they form a grotesque chrysalis around themselves and emerge as malevolent reptiles.

A special ed class simply provides a safer environment for these kinds of people, and their federally mandated individual education plan should reflect this.

I can vouch from personal experience here. It's really annoying to find this out first-hand.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-05-2008, 06:00
Yes, me English is terrible.

And you perceptive acumen for satire is impressive.


Anyway, Jesus was so white. See, Mary was a Jew and Joseph was blacker than Wesley Snipes standing in Johnny Cash's closet with the lights off, and it is a commonly known fact that white people are just the depolarized offspring of Jews and negroes.

Look it up.

I think I saw that on the Discovery Channel. *nod*
Intestinal fluids
03-05-2008, 06:26
Considering the number of errors you have made in the above posting I can only conclude you are either a troll of a very incompetent substitute English teacher. :eek: So, which is it? (run the op through a check in MS Word or other program with spelling and grammar check.)

If i really cared about spelling and grammar enough to bother to make it perfect, id have to start charging you to read my words. So just be happy im lazy.
Igneria
03-05-2008, 15:36
What evidence do you have for that?
(Jha wasn't here to say it)

Its the color people from there were at the time. Most of us jews are white now because we lived in Europe for so long that through interbreeding and natural selection our skin color changed (Its a relatively simple gene i think).

its A quote off of boondocks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boondocks_(TV_series)

Never watched the boondocks.

Or black. :eek:

that's often said, but no, they were slightly north of where they would be black, although he was definitely not white.

So, you are blaming slavery which ended over 100 years ago? So, you are blaming segregation that ended 50 years ago? Why not blame those who don't value an education?

100 years is only 4 generations or so. if segregation didn't exist though, their problem would be less severe. remember that education is what is necessary for change, so 100 years isnt that long, especially considering that they are still discriminated against today. An example, the feudal serfs often took centuries to result, but the student protests against Vietnam were almost instantaneous.

Yes, me English is terrible.

And you perceptive acumen for satire is impressive.


Anyway, Jesus was so white. See, Mary was a Jew and Joseph was blacker than Wesley Snipes standing in Johnny Cash's closet with the lights off, and it is a commonly known fact that white people are just the depolarized offspring of Jews and negroes.

Look it up.

I knew that already, but your forgetting that Joseph wasn't the father. Thus, your theory is ruined. (no I don't believe in any of this, I'm an atheist)
Muravyets
03-05-2008, 16:08
If I really cared about spelling and grammar enough to bother to make it perfect, I'd have to start charging you to read my words. So just be happy [that] I'm lazy.(Edited for free. This time.)

You sure are. I think I would have walked out of your class when I was done with the assignment, too.
greed and death
03-05-2008, 16:32
Yes, me English is terrible.

And you perceptive acumen for satire is impressive.


Anyway, Jesus was so white. See, Mary was a Jew and Joseph was blacker than Wesley Snipes standing in Johnny Cash's closet with the lights off, and it is a commonly known fact that white people are just the depolarized offspring of Jews and negroes.

Look it up.

Joseph wasn't the father so you mean god is black ??
Neesika
03-05-2008, 17:04
*snip*

It seems there is a problem here. Is it African American children not giving a shit or are they trying to prove some self destructive point? Or is it a failure of the system for not teaching the kids better? Is it the systems fault if they let poor student behavior and performance slide even though addressing it might get you called racist? And can you ultimatly teach a child that just doesnt seem to give a shit and doesnt appear to want to change his/her view on it any time soon despite your efforts?

I don't know why we don't just come out and state the obvious...the darker your skin tone, the lower your IQ. We've always freaking known this...I don't know why we need to dress it up in questions of 'bad systems' or 'apathy'. Jeez.
[NS]Click Stand
03-05-2008, 17:47
a) Black people multiply asexually and spontaneously if you get water on them and

b) If you feed them after midnight, they form a grotesque chrysalis around themselves and emerge as malevolent reptiles.


You forgot that black people don't like bright lights. Why do you think they are black? Because they don't get any sunlight to make them brighter.
Ryadn
03-05-2008, 19:10
I've been a licensed substitute teacher in very challenging districts, and I'd like to educate you on some simple facts that are obviously ignorant of:

The black kids are not necessarily wrongly shunted into special ed just because they don't fit any reasonable criteria that would justify the decision. Rather, they could be there because:

a) Black people multiply asexually and spontaneously if you get water on them and

b) If you feed them after midnight, they form a grotesque chrysalis around themselves and emerge as malevolent reptiles.

A special ed class simply provides a safer environment for these kinds of people, and their federally mandated individual education plan should reflect this.

Well now who feels foolish. :( I really should have done some research before I posted, this is just embarrassing.
Kirchensittenbach
03-05-2008, 19:36
Imagine being one of only a handful of white kids in a school of black kids. How would you feel?


well my best friend was one of the 2 white kids in his school, along with 1 asian, the rest in the whole school being black,

He stayed through all those years and even now, is on his 3rd year at college studying IT programming, so he has done quite well despite being a minority student back at school

as for some of the apes from his school, last time he saw some of them, they were the braindead gorillas hired by a random nightclub to be the classic wall of muscle and fat that sits at the front door checking ID cards,

so here, the white minority student STILL passed school despite the racial % count in the school, while the blacks guys STILL failed
Ryadn
03-05-2008, 20:35
well my best friend was one of the 2 white kids in his school, along with 1 asian, the rest in the whole school being black,

He stayed through all those years and even now, is on his 3rd year at college studying IT programming, so he has done quite well despite being a minority student back at school

as for some of the apes from his school, last time he saw some of them, they were the braindead gorillas hired by a random nightclub to be the classic wall of muscle and fat that sits at the front door checking ID cards,

so here, the white minority student STILL passed school despite the racial % count in the school, while the blacks guys STILL failed

Wait, your friend went to a school full of non-human primates? No wonder he did better, gorillas can't even hold pencils. That's not much to brag about.