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Pronunciation Wars:

How do YOU say it?

The words are:

-Iraq

-Garage

-Ogle

-Niche

I would put more but there's a poll option limit.

Let the pedantry begin!

Mooooo.

Mooooo.

Baaaaa.


Mine are: Ih-rark, Garrij, Owe-guhl and Neesh.

Meow?

So, I'm one of few who adds an "R" to Iraq?

Er-rack (?), gar-ajj, aw-guhl... neeshe. I don't know... really. I never listen to myself speak. If I did, I'd shut up more.

Baaaaa.


Mine are: Ih-rark, Garrij, Owe-guhl and Neesh.

I got
Ih rack, Garrij, Oggle and Neesh.

woof

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)

As I said in the above recording, I don't know how else one would pronounce them.

I got the first on all of them I guess this is because I speak pro-pur ing-lish then meh duck :)

Let the pedantry begin!


Sig worthy!!:D

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)

thats the thickest upper-class English accent I have ever heard :D

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)

As I said in the above recording, I don't know how else one would pronounce them.

Is that your voice? It's gorgeous!

Where are you from?

Sig worthy!!:D

Haha, thanks!

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)

As I said in the above recording, I don't know how else one would pronounce them.

Your English sounds like someone put a cat in a blender and added a dash of British education to it. ;) Kidding. It sounds like a mix of accents.

Ih-rark, Garrij, Oogle, Neesh.

thats the thickest upper-class English accent I have ever heard :D

agreed.:)

It sounds like a mix of accents.

Yeah, is there any Indian in there, Fass?

Seriously you have a really really nice voice!

The words are:

-Iraq E-rack (I have a friend from there, been friends since 89 and that's how he taught me to say it)

-Garage Guh-raj

-Ogle oogle (with oo like in zoo)

-Niche neesh (sorta... )

the only one i pronounce the "wrong way" is garage i do the "ij" thing...

phonetically:

garije

lol.

looks wierd.

proper english ftw!

thats the thickest upper-class English accent I have ever heard :D

Ditto. But it proves what so many say. The English are the perfect diplomats. Fass's accent proves it.:D

thats the thickest upper-class English accent I have ever heard :D

Well, Swedish schooling didn't exactly go for instilling a Pollard-esque accent in its pupils, but instead vied for a "pretty" English, which is of course futile as there is no such thing... but what I'm trying to say in this meandering is that it's not due to any choice on my part what sort of English I was taught - it was all Received Pronunciation on the tapes we got to listen to, and that's what "correct" is to me. I may not approximate it fully, but I at least veer towards it.

Ditto. But it proves what so many say. The English are the perfect diplomats. Fass's accent proves it.:D

The funny part being if you look at his location it says "Sweden". How can it prove the English are perfect diplomats if the speaker is a Swede?

Yeah, is there any Indian in there, Fass?

Uh... no. I should hope not, at least.

Seriously you have a really really nice voice!

You are too kind.

Ditto. But it proves what so many say. The English are the perfect diplomats. Fass's accent proves it.:D

he ain't English.
*shoots crackpot theory down*
I think broken beer bottles are the best way for diplomats to get their voice across.

I had a professor in college who drilled into us the correct way to pronounce "Iraq." He didn't care how you said the second syllable, but the first was like "Ear," not like "Eye."

Uh... no. I should hope not, at least.

So, are you white and Swedish?

That's so weird, I could have sworn you were black!

But it might be because your accent reminds me of two friends of mine, one of whom is Indian and the other Zimbabwean.

The funny part being if you look at his location it says "Sweden". How can it prove the English are perfect diplomats if the speaker is a Swede?

:eek:
Gah, I didn;t read that. Sorry Fass. You're just a Swede.:p
But his accent does implies he learned English from a Brit.

I had a professor in college who drilled into us the correct way to pronounce "Iraq." He didn't care how you said the second syllable, but the first was like "Ear," not like "Eye."

Interesting. I usually say Ih-rack or Ih-rark but I've been trying to say Eye-rack recently because apparently that's closest to the actual Iraqi pronunciation of it, but I could be wrong. Perhaps ear-rack is even closer.

-Iraq E-rack (I have a friend from there, been friends since 89 and that's how he taught me to say it)

Interesting.

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)
Nice accent, you should become a voice actor!

My pronunciation sounds kinda like:
Ih-rack
gah-rage
oog-le
neech

Ny question for people here - in a word like "whip" or "whine" or "which," do you find yourself pronouncing the "h" after the "w" in those words or treating it like a silent letter?

Or do you just pronounce the "h" just to annoy people who don't?

So, are you white

No, I'm more pink.

and Swedish?

According to the passport the Realm's issued me.

That's so weird, I could have sworn you were black!

Once again, you are too kind.

But it might be because your accent reminds me of two friends of mine, one of whom is Indian and the other Zimbabwean.

Smashing.

Ny question for people here - in a word like "whip" or "whine" or "which," do you find yourself pronouncing the "h" after the "w" in those words or treating it like a silent letter?

Or do you just pronounce the "h" just to annoy people who don't?

how can you pronouce the h at all in which?
from my attempts at doing that i got:
hooich
hooch
this doesn't sound anything like how i usually pronounce which, similar to witch for me.

:eek:
Gah, I didn;t read that. Sorry Fass.

Question: Is it standard policy on NSG to put screennames in bold - or is it just something you and a few others do?

I'm not having a go or anything, I'm genuinely interested.

Ny question for people here - in a word like "whip" or "whine" or "which," do you find yourself pronouncing the "h" after the "w" in those words or treating it like a silent letter?

Or do you just pronounce the "h" just to annoy people who don't?

I think when people pronounce the silent 'h' they say it before the 'w'.

Listen and you can hear it, it's like hur-wip, but with that first 'hur' slurred.

I personally don't pronounce the 'h'.

Well, Swedish schooling didn't exactly go for instilling a Pollard-esque accent in its pupils, but instead vied for a "pretty" English, which is of course futile as there is no such thing... but what I'm trying to say in this meandering is that it's not due to any choice on my part what sort of English I was taught - it was all Received Pronunciation on the tapes we got to listen to, and that's what "correct" is to me. I may not approximate it fully, but I at least veer towards it.

thats odd they also taught you how the upper class talk ;)

though in future say "suppose" as your accent doesn't do you any favours shortening it (you was expecting your English to not be picked apart by native speakers???)

This (http://media.putfile.com/Words-62) is how I say them

M-mmYumyumyumYesindeed It is usually on other forums considered good nettiquette to bold a users name but, its not really that much of a bother here I don't think.

As for pronounciation...

Ih-Rack
Garrij (due more to my dialect rather than how I was taught)
Ogle
Neesh

This (http://media.putfile.com/Words-62) is how I say them

Are you American?

I've never heard an American pronounce it Garrij.


edit: Posters 32-34 all pronounce the four words the same way! Well, I fluctuate with Iraq but still!

Are you American?

I've never heard an American pronounce it Garrij.

Northern Irish

Northern Irish

Ohhh right. Apologies.

Northern Irish

aha! i knew i could hear a bit of Irish in there but i wasn't totally convinced. I might have mistaken it for Scottish. then again my hearing is notoriously bad.

you're not Irish you're Scottish!
:D

thats odd they also taught you how the upper class talk ;)

If they talk RP.

though in future say "suppose" as your accent doesn't do you any favours shortening it

I didn't shorten it.

(you was expecting your English to not be picked apart by native speakers???)

I thought you were German as evidenced by your grammar, and I thought you cleverer than to think I'd be bothered.

aha! i knew i could hear a bit of Irish in there but i wasn't totally convinced. I might have mistaken it for Scottish. then again my hearing is notoriously bad.

you're not Irish you're Scottish!
:D

You live in Dundee and you don't know a Northern Irish accent? My God man the place is over-run with us

though in future say "suppose" as your accent doesn't do you any favours shortening it

I personally say both s'pose and suppose, depending on my tone of voice or what I'm saying.

How about you?

This (http://media.putfile.com/Words-62) is how I say them

Alas, you mispronounced "Fass" with that charming, provincial accent of yours.

You live in Dundee and you don't know a Northern Irish accent? My God man the place is over-run with us

I only know one Irish guy in Dundee.
so i don't know many Northern Irish folks, i suppose that would explain why i couldn't tell the difference, that or your voice is just taking on a Scottish accent.

Alas, you mispronounced "Fass" with that charming, rural accent of yours.

I suspected that was the case. I seem to remember you saying something about it before. How do I say it?

I only know one Irish guy in Dundee.
so i don't know many Northern Irish folks, i suppose that would explain why i couldn't tell the difference, that or your voice is just taking on a Scottish accent.

It's probably best described as an Ulster-Scots influenced accent

Alas, you mispronounced "Fass" with that charming, provincial accent of yours.

How do you pronounce 'Fass'?

I suspected that was the case. I seem to remember you saying something about it before. How do I say it?

Like this. (http://media.putfile.com/Fass-35)

Like this. (http://media.putfile.com/Fass-35)

LOLZ!!!

Excellent soundbyte!

Like this. (http://media.putfile.com/Fass-35)

I see. It's lucky for me that I won't have to say it that often as i'm finding it very difficult to replicate the 'a'. Thanks

-Iraq Ah-rak

-Garage Ga-rahj

-Ogle oh-gull

-Niche nit-ch

Question: Is it standard policy on NSG to put screennames in bold - or is it just something you and a few others do?

I'm not having a go or anything, I'm genuinely interested.

It's just something I do that also some of the other members do, It's not NSG standard.:)

-Iraq
kom-yuh-naht-see

-Garage
kahr-hohl

-Iraq Ah-rak

-Garage Ga-rahj

-Ogle oh-gull

-Niche nit-ch

you're Scottish aren't you?
those sound like Scottish versions of pronounciation.

you're Scottish aren't you?
those sound like Scottish versions of pronounciation.

Not the way I read them. At least not for Iraq

Like this. (http://media.putfile.com/Fass-35)

To-MAH-toe??? I should have known you were one of those :D

To-MAH-toe??? I should have known you were one of those :D
What do you expect from a condescending fag like Fass? He a brit-fag or something?

Self-indulgent tripe (http://media.putfile.com/This-is-why-Kryozerkia-shouldnt-record-herself-talking) or Why Kryozerkia shouldn't record her own voice. Seriously.

The way I figure it, I could either rely on my crappy earlier post or I could jump on the bandwagon. Or... I could do both.

Self-indulgent tripe (http://media.putfile.com/This-is-why-Kryozerkia-shouldnt-record-herself-talking) or Why Kryozerkia shouldn't record her own voice. Seriously.

The way I figure it, I could either rely on my crappy earlier post or I could jump on the bandwagon. Or... I could do both.
LOL WUT?! Did you shove beetles up your nose before this?

LOL WUT?! Did you shove beetles up your nose before this?

What? :D Dude, why would get an idea like that?

What? :D Dude, why would get an idea like that?
Guess it's just that typical Canuckistani accent of yours.

Guess it's just that typical Canuckistani accent of yours.

Combination of Valley Twang and T.O. influence. :)

My pronunciation & grammar complaints:

"I could care less." So you care at least a little bit? I think you mean "I couldn't care less."

The state of War-shing-tun: I don't see any 'r' in that word.

The state of Ore-uh-gone: It's not gone, it's still there.

you're Scottish aren't you?
those sound like Scottish versions of pronounciation.

No, I've actually never been anywhere near Scotland, although the idea appeals. I was raised down in the American South. I also say "nu-ku-ler" instead of "new-cleer" which never fails to get me grief from my friends here in MN, who find it highly entertaining.

Loving Fass' soundbites :) such a cute English accent.

Ih-rark, Garrij, Oggle, Neesh

Oh, and it's prem-ee-air, not prem-ear.

I am such a deviant that I pronounce 'niche' as 'nich'.

Of the 59 voters: 3 of them pronounce "Iraq" two different ways simultaneously, 8 of them never utter the word "garage" under any circumstance, 4 of them never say "ogle", and 1 refuses to say "niche"!

Ny question for people here - in a word like "whip" or "whine" or "which," do you find yourself pronouncing the "h" after the "w" in those words or treating it like a silent letter?

Or do you just pronounce the "h" just to annoy people who don't?

cool hwip

cool hwip

For those of you who need to be enlightened. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lich59xsjik&feature=related)

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)

As I said in the above recording, I don't know how else one would pronounce them.

That's how I pronounce them, as well, though I can't say the same for most people in my area.

I'm not good at pronouncing things and I'm usually inconsistent with how I pronounce them. I'm pretty sure the only one of those four that I say the same way each time I say it is garage. Guh-rahj, kind of.

No, I've actually never been anywhere near Scotland, although the idea appeals. I was raised down in the American South. I also say "nu-ku-ler" instead of "new-cleer" which never fails to get me grief from my friends here in MN, who find it highly entertaining.

ah sorry, still there were alot of Scots who moved over to the South USA during the highland clearences, so it's possible there's some folks descended from Scots down there. Hell the confederate flag looks similar to the Scottish flag.
Americans love Scottish accents too, or at least some of them do.

The one that has been annoying me as of late is people who pronounce frustrated as: Fustrated
That or people who pronounce Worcester as War-chester. I demand they leave New England at once. :mad:

Chillax is the single worst made up word in use today. Fuck anyone who actually uses that word. Gianormous is acceptable. Chillax is not. Not at all.

Self-indulgent tripe (http://media.putfile.com/This-is-why-Kryozerkia-shouldnt-record-herself-talking) or Why Kryozerkia shouldn't record her own voice. Seriously.

The way I figure it, I could either rely on my crappy earlier post or I could jump on the bandwagon. Or... I could do both.

Like this. (http://media.putfile.com/Fass-35)

This is awesome!

We should have a whole thread devoted to voice recordings!

(providing Indri is banned so he doesn't just sit there taking the piss)

It would be so cool!

I pronounce that last one two different ways. The frenchish pronunciation, neesh, and the anglicized one, nitch.

The state of Ore-uh-gone: It's not gone, it's still there.

Indeed. We need our guns to protect it. So, Or-eh-gun. (with the middle syllable being barely a breath)

Click Stand;13660129']The one that has been annoying me as of late is people who pronounce frustrated as: Fustrated
That or people who pronounce Worcester as War-chester. I demand they leave New England at once. :mad:

Fustrated? That's appalling!

I share your irkation.

(that should SO be a word)

I pronounce that last one two different ways. The frenchish pronunciation, neesh, and the anglicized one, nitch.

I think neesh is the english version and nitch is the american version.

I've always used neesh and when I first heard an american saying nitch it really threw me.

Lieutenant is interesting, because apparently the standard english pronunciation is lef-tenant, in which case I've always used the american lyoo-tenant. Seeing as the american one is closer to the original french I feel happy sticking with that.

This is awesome!

We should have a whole thread devoted to voice recordings!

(providing Indri is banned so he doesn't just sit there taking the piss)

It would be so cool!

we've had like 6 of them.......search "whatcha sound like?" and you can find at least one started by me (that has a link in the OP to Fass' original)

I say E-rahk, guh-rahsh (with a soft "sh"), owe-gle and neesh.

But then I'm not a native speaker. :p

Click Stand;13660129']
That or people who pronounce Worcester as War-chester. I demand they leave New England at once. :mad:
By a joke that became habitual, we always referred to "Whatsdishere sauce"

By a joke that became habitual, we always referred to "Whatsdishere sauce"

I saw a TV show once where they were talking about it, and the woman said "nobody knows how to say it, just mummble through and pretend you said it right" so ever since I'm like "worhcongngerhgmshire"

Thus. (http://media.putfile.com/Thus)

As I said in the above recording, I don't know how else one would pronounce them.

"This file has been removed due to TOS or copyright violations"

One really does wonder WTF you said there to violate TOS regulations. Anyhow, the common populace demands a re-run of the thing.

Click Stand;13660129']The one that has been annoying me as of late is people who pronounce frustrated as: Fustrated
That or people who pronounce Worcester as War-chester. I demand they leave New England at once. :mad:

Note: I pronounce Worchester as War-Ches-Ter just to piss Yankees off.

If you wanted it to be called Woo-Sta-Ah. You should have spelled it that way to begin with. And I did leave New England. Middlesex County to Atlanta. Our family was never happier than to leave Bah-ston.

1. Eye-rack.

2. Guh-raj

3. Ogle, long "o."

4. Niche, rhymes with itch.

Ih-ROCK.

Guh-RAHJ.

OGG-uhl.

Either NITCH or NEESH.

Note: I pronounce Worchester as War-Ches-Ter just to piss Yankees off.

If you wanted it to be called Woo-Sta-Ah. You should have spelled it that way to begin with. And I did leave New England. Middlesex County to Atlanta. Our family was never happier than to leave Bah-ston.

I thought it was "weuh-steuh-sheuh".

My pronunciation & grammar complaints:

"I could care less." So you care at least a little bit? I think you mean "I couldn't care less."

The state of War-shing-tun: I don't see any 'r' in that word.

Just to clarify, are you saying that's how we Washingtonians pronounce it? 'Cuz I've never heard anyone on the Western half of the Cascade mountains add that in.

My pronunciation & grammar complaints:

"I could care less." So you care at least a little bit? I think you mean "I couldn't care less."

That bugs me too, to the point where I have to restrain myself from an automatic correction because I do not want to be "that person".

Other annoying ones: For all intensive purposes, the use of words like whilst and amongst, and taking something "for granite". I encounter these FAR too often.

Other annoying ones: For all intensive purposes, the use of words like whilst and amongst, and taking something "for granite". I encounter these FAR too often.

I thought those were just Britishisms. I think they're correct (or at least standard) in their usage.

Baaaaa.


Mine are: Ih-rark, Garrij, Owe-guhl and Neesh.

Me too.

Chillax is the single worst made up word in use today. Fuck anyone who actually uses that word. Gianormous is acceptable. Chillax is not. Not at all.

Chillax man, it's just a word.


Also, people pronouncing debut as day-boo sounds really silly.

My take on the whole thing.

http://media.putfile.com/Iraq-garage-ogle--niche

Garage: ggaarAAzye, starting with the vocalized version of the ch in loch, with an "alveolar flap" R, long open aa's and a shwa at the end, that's the only proper way to pronounce it. But alas, the vast majority of the NSGers won't be able to pronounce it properly. :D

Chillax man, it's just a word.


Also, people pronouncing debut as day-boo sounds really silly.

What, do you mean as opposed to day-byoo?

Or are you beefing against the general silent 't' pronunciation of day-byoo?

My take on the whole thing.

http://media.putfile.com/Iraq-garage-ogle--niche

Hey cool! Snap!

That bugs me too, to the point where I have to restrain myself from an automatic correction because I do not want to be "that person".

Other annoying ones: For all intensive purposes, the use of words like whilst and amongst, and taking something "for granite". I encounter these FAR too often.

'Whilst' and 'Amongst' I accept as real words and I have no problem with. 'Taken for granite' is just a travesty though!

I thought it was "weuh-steuh-sheuh".

I'm pretty sure it's 'woo-stuh'.

Or are you beefing against the general silent 't' pronunciation of day-byoo?
Deh-BUTT sounds much better.

I'm pretty sure it's 'woo-stuh'.
With the -shire suffix at the end, as in the sauce, it becomes better to just mumble it.

Deh-BUTT sounds much better.

With the -shire suffix at the end, as in the sauce, it becomes better to just mumble it.

Oh yeah, I was wrong - it is woo-stuh-sheer sauce.

"This file has been removed due to TOS or copyright violations"

One really does wonder WTF you said there to violate TOS regulations. Anyhow, the common populace demands a re-run of the thing.

I removed them myself. Tada.

Hmm.

I find that I pronounce 'route' the english way as 'root'.

But when I say 'reroute' I tend to use the American 'raute'.

I removed them myself. Tada.

...for TOS violation? That conscience can be a bitch, can't it just. So when will you deliver straight into my inbox/Skype window/whatever?

...for TOS violation? That conscience can be a bitch, can't it just. So when will you deliver straight into my inbox/Skype window/whatever?

And don't you wish you were one? Hey, I've been online plenty these last days, it's you who've been MIA.

My pronunciation & grammar complaints:

"I could care less." So you care at least a little bit? I think you mean "I couldn't care less."

I've never heard anyone say "I could care less". It'd be really annoying if they did though.

Some of my language complaints are:

Stone deaf - instead of tone deaf

and

"You should of seen that woodpecker"

HAVE!

I say:

/i'rak/

/ga'ʀaʒ/

/'ʊg:l/

/'niʃ/

for those who can read IPA.

I only know one Irish guy in Dundee.
so i don't know many Northern Irish folks, i suppose that would explain why i couldn't tell the difference, that or your voice is just taking on a Scottish accent.

You're from Dundee?

Ditto, never met anyone on the interwebz from Dundee before!

Ih-rahk

Gah-raj or garrij depending on what i'm referring to and who i'm talking with

oggle

neesh

And don't you wish you were one? Hey, I've been online plenty these last days, it's you who've been MIA.

I've tried it these days, and found it not to be to my liking. Sorry, things are moving around a bit IRL, thus limiting my idle online time.