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Ok i am a religion that im not sure if it even is one! I believe in god. but not the way a catholic or Christian would. I believe everything scientists have PROVED is completely right. and why? because god made it that way. Everything happens because god lets it happen,makes it happen, or doesn't make something happen.Ive read the bible and find it as ignorant as any man of time would be. saying humans were made out of sand. animals dont have souls. the earth was flooded for 40 days then out of nowhere normal? I just cant see that when it has been proved wrong with Artifact findings and the theory of evolution. Yes i believe in evolution. No im not saying we are monkies. just, lifeforms. created by the universe which was created by god himself. I would like to know if this is a religion already made or i happened to stumble upon my own made up religion. Ive asked some of my friends and they blandly said THATS SCIENTOLOGY And i found there ignorance insulting because Scientologists believe our souls are those of aliens :eek:

You are a Frisbeetarian. *nod*

im pretty sure i dont believe my soul goes on the roof.

im pretty sure i dont believe my soul goes on the roof.

Infidel!! :mad:

*throws you in mud*

Infidel!! :mad:

*throws you in mud*
LOL

There are some similarities with the Hindu and some Pagan faiths.

I was going to say you sound like a deist, except for this part:

because god made it that way. Everything happens because god lets it happen,makes it happen, or doesn't make something happen.

Deists believe God created the universe and didn't interfere thereafter. This just sounds like mainstream modern Christianity to me. You don't accept the Bible literally but believe in an omnipresent, actively interventionist deity.


So?

Ok i am a religion that im not sure if it even is one! I believe in god. but not the way a catholic or Christian would. I believe everything scientists have PROVED is completely right. and why? because god made it that way. Everything happens because god lets it happen,makes it happen, or doesn't make something happen.Ive read the bible and find it as ignorant as any man of time would be. saying humans were made out of sand. animals dont have souls. the earth was flooded for 40 days then out of nowhere normal? I just cant see that when it has been proved wrong with Artifact findings and the theory of evolution. Yes i believe in evolution. No im not saying we are monkies. just, lifeforms. created by the universe which was created by god himself. I would like to know if this is a religion already made or i happened to stumble upon my own made up religion. Ive asked some of my friends and they blandly said THATS SCIENTOLOGY And i found there ignorance insulting because Scientologists believe our souls are those of aliens :eek:

You might start by looking at Deism and UU.

Deism is a religious philosophy and movement that derives the existence and nature of God from reason and personal experience. (The mention of God in this article is meant more as a Creator than as the Abrahamic God.) This is in contrast to fideism which is found in many forms of Christianity.[1] Islamic and Judaic teachings hold that religion relies on revelation in sacred scriptures or the testimony of other people as well as reasoning.

Deists typically reject supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and tend to assert that God does not intervene with the affairs of human life and the natural laws of the universe. What organized religions see as divine revelation and holy books, most deists see as interpretations made by other humans, rather than as authoritative sources. Deists believe that God's greatest gift to humanity is not religion, but the ability to reason.

Deism became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries during the Age of Enlightenment, especially in The United Kingdom, France and The United States of America, mostly among those raised as Christians who found they could not believe in either a triune God, the divinity of Jesus, miracles, or the inerrancy of scriptures, but who did believe in one God. Initially it did not form any congregations, but in time deism led to the development of other religious groups, particularly Unitarianism, which later developed into Unitarian Universalism. It continues to this day in the form of classical deism and modern deism.

The concept of deism covers a wide variety of positions on a wide variety of religious issues. Following Sir Leslie Stephen's English Thought in the Eighteenth Century, most commentators agree that two features constituted the core of deism:

* The rejection of revealed religion — this was the critical aspect of deism.
* The belief that reason, not faith, leads us to certain basic religious truths — this was the positive or constructive aspect of deism.

Deist authors advocated a combination of both critical and constructive elements in proportions and emphases that varied from author to author.

Critical elements of deist thought included:

* Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.
* Rejection of reports of miracles, prophecies and religious "mysteries".
* Rejection of the Genesis account of creation and the doctrine of original sin, along with all similar beliefs.
* Rejection of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and other religious beliefs.

Constructive elements of deist thought included:

* God exists, created and governs the universe.
* God wants human beings to behave morally.
* Human beings have souls that survive death; that is, there is an afterlife.

Specific thoughts on aspects of the afterlife will vary. While there are those who maintain that a God will punish or reward us according to our behavior on Earth, likewise there are those who assert that any punishment or reward that is due to us is given during our mortal stay on Earth. Some do not believe in an afterlife.

Individual deists varied in the set of critical and constructive elements for which they argued. Some deists rejected miracles and prophecies but still considered themselves Christians because they believed in what they felt to be the pure, original form of Christianity — that is, Christianity as it existed before it was corrupted by additions of such superstitions as miracles, prophecies, and the doctrine of the Trinity. Some deists rejected the claim of Jesus' divinity but continued to hold him in high regard as a moral teacher (see, e.g., Thomas Jefferson's famous Jefferson Bible and Matthew Tindal's 'Christianity as Old as the Creation'). Other, more radical deists rejected Christianity altogether and expressed hostility toward Christianity, which they regarded as pure superstition. In return, Christian writers often charged radical deists with atheism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

You seem to agree with the same 'religion', and i use that term very lightly, as i do...

"Deism" it was the religion of the Freemasons and of the American Founding Fathers...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

Which simply stated there was a God, but, was merely an Architect and didnt interact with people..and that the Scientific Explanations were the True explanations for how the Universe Works...

But, we will simply be killed when our Alien Overlords from Xenthu Descend upon us, lol...:rolleyes:

I have a question for you:

Do you really need a label for your spiritual beliefs? Do they alter or become more or less real depending on what word you apply to them? Doesn't that word give your believes limits, depending on how it's perceived by those with whom you share it?

I prefer not to define my religious beliefs through any means of man; therefore, I do not label and box it with language. I believe something not dissimilar from your own beliefs, though briefly stated. As of now, if someone asks, I tell them I'm religious with Christian influences. I was raised Irish Catholic, and have most recently pursued Eastern Orthodoxy, but I'm neither nor anything else I've practiced through the years, in entirety. I'm instead little bits and pieces of everything. There's no word or religion that really embraces that; therefore, I've stopped looking for one.

You might start by looking at Deism and UU.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism


Beat me too it, lol:p

But, we will simply be killed when our Alien Overlords from Xenthu Descend upon us, lol...:rolleyes:

Cthulhu is much more fun. At least he will eat the believers first.

I was going to say you sound like a deist, except for this part:

That part would indeed make his beliefs inconsistent. Just like that of "mainstream Christianity" for that matter. While a nice handhold for life and a good way to meet and socialise with other people it has very little to do with actual worship of a supreme being.

I am assuming he actually cares about what he worships and not just about the rituals.

You are Deist. Deism fits that description 100% exactly. I believe the website is www.deism.org or something

Cthulhu is much more fun. At least he will eat the believers first.

Xenthu's easier for me to remember, so i use that at the end of all my religious posts, lol...

It just shows so perfectly the Absurdity of Scientology...Stupid Tom Cruise, lol...

I was going to say you sound like a deist, except for this part:



Deists believe God created the universe and didn't interfere thereafter. This just sounds like mainstream modern Christianity to me. You don't accept the Bible literally but believe in an omnipresent, actively interventionist deity.


So?
well i meant in almost in the way a deist would see to it as. sry i wrote it so unclear. so far of what ive read is i agree with what most of the deist beliefs. but im to tired to read on today. thank you guys for the help :) really mean it

taoist, baha'i, and keeper of (many of the vast and wonderful diversity of) indiginous traditions.

not a cigar on any of them, but encompassing the points at which they overlap, which are many more then those at which they don't.

=^^=
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Ok i am a religion that im not sure if it even is one! I believe in god. but not the way a catholic or Christian would. I believe everything scientists have PROVED is completely right. and why? because god made it that way. Everything happens because god lets it happen,makes it happen, or doesn't make something happen.Ive read the bible and find it as ignorant as any man of time would be. saying humans were made out of sand. animals dont have souls. the earth was flooded for 40 days then out of nowhere normal? I just cant see that when it has been proved wrong with Artifact findings and the theory of evolution. Yes i believe in evolution. No im not saying we are monkies. just, lifeforms. created by the universe which was created by god himself. I would like to know if this is a religion already made or i happened to stumble upon my own made up religion. Ive asked some of my friends and they blandly said THATS SCIENTOLOGY And i found there ignorance insulting because Scientologists believe our souls are those of aliens :eek:

Ahhh welcome brother, I'd reconise a Sikh anywhere. Sat sri Akaal!:D

Ahhh welcome brother, I'd reconise a Sikh anywhere. Sat sri Akaal!:D

lol what?

Ok i am a religion that im not sure if it even is one! I believe in god. but not the way a catholic or Christian would. I believe everything scientists have PROVED is completely right. and why? because god made it that way. Everything happens because god lets it happen,makes it happen, or doesn't make something happen.Ive read the bible and find it as ignorant as any man of time would be. saying humans were made out of sand. animals dont have souls. the earth was flooded for 40 days then out of nowhere normal? I just cant see that when it has been proved wrong with Artifact findings and the theory of evolution. Yes i believe in evolution. No im not saying we are monkies. just, lifeforms. created by the universe which was created by god himself. I would like to know if this is a religion already made or i happened to stumble upon my own made up religion. Ive asked some of my friends and they blandly said THATS SCIENTOLOGY And i found there ignorance insulting because Scientologists believe our souls are those of aliens :eek:

I have similar beleifs too. :eek:

Edit: There is also and IC church in my nation which is Christianity if they were beleived in science called the Church of Brotherhood (for historical reasons) so they talk sort of like nerdy scientists crossed with Catholics.

Example:

Come carbon based brother let us oxidize this heretic at a stake of hardened glucose (aka a wooden stake) Bring oxidants and reactants.

OR.....

In the beginning God created helium and hydrogen and saw that they were good.

> Name that religion

You should use the Belief-O-Matic! You answer a few questions, and it tells you how closely you match 15 or 20 famous religions.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

why exactily do you feel the need for a name for your religious beleafs. If you are looking for an organized religion then there are plenty around. personally you sound a little like a nondenominational christian to me. they tend to have similer beleafs, especially the more liberal groups.

personally I suggest that instaid of looking toward a religious institution to conform to, you just continue to worship in your own way and fellowship with others of the same bent.

btw fellowship doesn't mean sitting on a hard bench in uncomfortable clothes, listening to a guy or gal tell you his interpratation of events some odd 2000 yrs before either he or you were born,in a big building on one specific day of the week. It meant to gather togather and basicly help each other, as well as compare notes on your own interpratation of those things.

Beliefnet has a fun quiz here (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html). Perhaps that could be of help.

EDIT: Someone already posted this, sorry.

Beliefnet has a fun quiz here (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html). Perhaps that could be of help.i took the quiz and i found it confusing and some questions misleading. i couldnt rely on somthing like that.

The Ceiling Cat is in ur waterz makin a ceiling.

> Name that religion

You should use the Belief-O-Matic! You answer a few questions, and it tells you how closely you match 15 or 20 famous religions.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

And the Belief-O-Matic says... *drumroll*

I'm a Unitarian! Or a secular humanist.

Well that was anti-climactic.

I have a question for you:

Do you really need a label for your spiritual beliefs? Do they alter or become more or less real depending on what word you apply to them? Doesn't that word give your believes limits, depending on how it's perceived by those with whom you share it?

I prefer not to define my religious beliefs through any means of man; therefore, I do not label and box it with language. I believe something not dissimilar from your own beliefs, though briefly stated. As of now, if someone asks, I tell them I'm religious with Christian influences. I was raised Irish Catholic, and have most recently pursued Eastern Orthodoxy, but I'm neither nor anything else I've practiced through the years, in entirety. I'm instead little bits and pieces of everything. There's no word or religion that really embraces that; therefore, I've stopped looking for one.

Meh of course you do, otherwise how else are you going to communicate about them?

lol what?

What Sikh? Or Sat sri Akaal?

Etheir way google it man!:D

why do people always find a need to categorize themselves into a certain religion or belief niche? you believe what you believe. does it become any more or or any less powerful because of the name you attach to it?