The Female Form
Question: What does the "ideal" female body look like?
While Stumbling idly today (oh StumbleUpon, has anything ever annihilated productivity like you?), I came upon a website called Beauty Check (http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/) that examined what made the male and female faces "beautiful" to most people, and what made the female form "beautiful". There was a lot of interesting stuff on the site, but what caught my attention was the page on Beautiful Figures. It discusses various ratios and measurements, as well as a little history on how the "perfect" female figure has changed through recent history, but the most interesting part was the "figure experiments", where you could manipulate a variety of measurements (waist, hip, leg length, etc) to produce different silhouettes.
Using the application I made eight silhouettes, shown below. These figures definitely don't represent even close to the full range of female figures, and I'm trying to put together a better compilation, but this is what I have for now. I ask you, NSG, which figure is the most attractive to you? A poll will be up in a moment, but please comment on which silhouettes you find attractive or pleasing, which you don't, which you would most like to have (if you're a woman), etc.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lastcatastrophe/Others/FemaleForms.jpg
Amarenthe
28-04-2008, 21:30
I am female, and I was trying to decide between C and G, and settled for G. I like a female form with defined hips, and not super skinny. As for myself, I think I probably look closest to H. I certainly have hips, and I am by no means skin and bones. :p
the Great Dawn
28-04-2008, 21:35
I'm male, and I can only say I cannot choose. These images all look...odd to me, unnatural. No really I can't choose, I have to see woman in real life, and most of the time I don't really fall on looks. Sure, I can think "Damn that girls looks hot!" but I don't really take that into account if I "like-like" a girl (extreme's left out). Personalities attract me to a girl, looks just barely.
Jhahannam
28-04-2008, 21:40
I like a woman with big sweater puppies and enough alcohol in her blood to compromise.
I'm female... I like B, C and G best...I like a defined waist, and curvy hips. F and E are too skinny, and D is too boyish. Actually, H isn't bad either...A is a bit too big. But I wouldn't turn down any of them if they were hot, and interesting enough to want to fuck.
Dododecapod
28-04-2008, 21:42
I like G, myself (male), though I think all of them would look better with a little extra muscle.
Mead Chuggin Granny
28-04-2008, 21:43
I'm male, and I can only say I cannot choose. These images all look...odd to me, unnatural. No really I can't choose, I have to see woman in real life, and most of the time I don't really fall on looks. Sure, I can think "Damn that girls looks hot!" but most of the time I don't really take that into account if I "like-like" a girl. Personalities attract me to a girl, looks just barely.
That's because all the girls are the same girl where somebody just did a hasty photoshop job on the legs and torso while leaving the face and arms unaltered.
That's because all the girls are the same girl where somebody just did a hasty photoshop job on the legs and torso while leaving the face and arms unaltered.
Exactly. Also the reason I'm trying to compile some real silhouettes, the stretchy-ness of these does throw one off.
Infinite Revolution
28-04-2008, 21:52
I was trying to decide between C and G, and settled for G. I like a female form with defined hips, and not super skinny.
same for my but i settled on C, bigger boobs *nod*
Whereyouthinkyougoing
28-04-2008, 21:54
same for my but i settled on C, bigger boobs *nod*
Same here.
C, E and G are the most attractive to me. I very much like a (comparatively) thin waist in women coupled with curves, i.e. the classic hourglass figure.
It's the figure I'd like to have myself. I'd actually have a killer hourglass waist if only I lost the surplus weight...
Kura-Pelland
28-04-2008, 21:57
A clever idea. Although I can't quite say what my preference is (and my sexual attraction is close enough to non-existent that I self-identify as asexual). I do think that it looks unnatural, but I also think that gets rid of extraneous variables and that's neat. Suspect there's probably a research project using this or similar already... probably several.
Soviestan
28-04-2008, 22:03
they all look the same. but what do I know, eh?
Spice Mines
28-04-2008, 22:07
CEG.
Really, none of the girls I have ever thought were attractive were actually classically attractive... Many of the girls I liked in high school had a complete and total lack of breasts, although there were these two that were rather busty... In successful relationships, however, the girl is usually mostly flat-chested, and short. I get along better with shorter people, which is strange for somebody 6' 11.5" tall.
M-mmYumyumyumYesindeed
28-04-2008, 22:08
H.
Though I was hard pushed between A and H.
I instintively went to H over A, though I think H is more unrealistic, and A more realistic. I just voted on my instinctual preference though, regardless of realism, as I assumed that's what the poll was asking.
The most popular choice seems to be C. I just find C too skinny and reminding me of my sister.
I find A and H really full-figured, really igniting of desire.
I say that, I have to imagine those figures on real people, as the warped photoshopped images aren't exactly greatly attractive.
Sumamba Buwhan
28-04-2008, 22:09
The female form is proof of an intelligent creator
Soviestan
28-04-2008, 22:14
The male form is proof of an intelligent creator
fixed.
This (http://www.ninjadude.com/images/Megan-Fox/megan-fox-panties.jpg).
or this (http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/23/Alyson_Hannigan_005.jpg).
Either way.
Sumamba Buwhan
28-04-2008, 22:24
fixed.
well I do enjoy both...
This (http://www.ninjadude.com/images/Megan-Fox/megan-fox-panties.jpg).
or this (http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/23/Alyson_Hannigan_005.jpg).
Either way.
I'm all about D.B. (http://www.freeweb.hu/gyengus/pic09/Drew%20Barrymore.jpg)
Call to power
28-04-2008, 22:29
I voted E (well I voted A because I can't deal with rows) but I just noticed that oddly its the same figure as a girl I have known for years.
no, she my best friend but I'm actually looking at my type now and must conclude that research needs to be done into this
fixed.
thats the first I have ever heard of this and I ponder if you wang happens to be something that doesn't look like an upside down giant fly head :eek:
Amarenthe
28-04-2008, 22:40
I'm all about D.B. (http://www.freeweb.hu/gyengus/pic09/Drew%20Barrymore.jpg)
No, Ms. Zeta-Jones (http://home.att.net/~rcoffey/CatherineZetaJones.jpg) is where it's at. Lord, there are no words.
Sumamba Buwhan
28-04-2008, 22:47
No, Ms. Zeta-Jones (http://home.att.net/~rcoffey/CatherineZetaJones.jpg) is where it's at. Lord, there are no words.
I got some words for ya - Drew's hotter :upyours::p:D
Amarenthe
28-04-2008, 22:50
I got some words for ya - Drew's hotter :upyours::p:D
Careful, now. Those be fightin' words.
:p
Edit: she is totally up there on my list of gorgeous women. It's just that Catherine Zeta-Jones is beyond compare.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
28-04-2008, 23:13
The female form is proof of an intelligent creator
Of course it is. After all, God is a woman.:D
Sumamba Buwhan
28-04-2008, 23:14
Of course it is. After all, God is a woman.:D
I'd do her.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
28-04-2008, 23:27
I'd do her.
Want in on a secret? I´d do her too.:p
Sumamba Buwhan
28-04-2008, 23:30
Want in on a secret? I´d do her too.:p
Maybe God is up for a threesome.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
28-04-2008, 23:42
Maybe God is up for a threesome.
Perhaps we should ask her.:D
Dostanuot Loj
28-04-2008, 23:43
Honestly, they all look the same to me. I choose E though for the hell of it. But the really do all look the same to me, I had to look real hard to pick E.
I guess I just pay more attention to the face.
Fourteen Eighty Eight
28-04-2008, 23:50
I was torn between A and H, and finally decided on A. I don't know about everyone else here, but I definitely like a woman with some meat on her bones. Skinny women aren't that attractive to me. I like my women like I like my steak, good and thick with the right amount of fat for flavor. Sexist, yes, but also very honest.
The Land of the Cheap
28-04-2008, 23:52
I picked F, although I liked C a lot too.
I like my women slender.
New Manvir
28-04-2008, 23:57
I like Figure C the best, Figure E is my second.
Greater Trostia
29-04-2008, 00:06
I voted "D" just because I knew no one else would. It's like they took her swimsuit stuff, her boobs and head, and put it on the body of an 11 year old boy.
Amor Pulchritudo
29-04-2008, 00:15
Question: What does the "ideal" female body look like?
While Stumbling idly today (oh StumbleUpon, has anything ever annihilated productivity like you?), I came upon a website called Beauty Check (http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/) that examined what made the male and female faces "beautiful" to most people, and what made the female form "beautiful". There was a lot of interesting stuff on the site, but what caught my attention was the page on Beautiful Figures. It discusses various ratios and measurements, as well as a little history on how the "perfect" female figure has changed through recent history, but the most interesting part was the "figure experiments", where you could manipulate a variety of measurements (waist, hip, leg length, etc) to produce different silhouettes.
Using the application I made eight silhouettes, shown below. These figures definitely don't represent even close to the full range of female figures, and I'm trying to put together a better compilation, but this is what I have for now. I ask you, NSG, which figure is the most attractive to you? A poll will be up in a moment, but please comment on which silhouettes you find attractive or pleasing, which you don't, which you would most like to have (if you're a woman), etc.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lastcatastrophe/Others/FemaleForms.jpg
I did a thread like this a while ago, but I used models/people who had differing body shapes. To be honest I have to agree that it doesn't give a full range, or even a particularly differing range.
I find H the most attainably attractive and the sexiest. However, this girl's body and face in general aren't attractive to me, so it's hard to pick. I chose the one with the largest hip to waist ratio.
That's because all the girls are the same girl where somebody just did a hasty photoshop job on the legs and torso while leaving the face and arms unaltered.
Yeah, that was my issue...
Same here.
C, E and G are the most attractive to me. I very much like a (comparatively) thin waist in women coupled with curves, i.e. the classic hourglass figure.
It's the figure I'd like to have myself. I'd actually have a killer hourglass waist if only I lost the surplus weight...
H actually has an hourglass figure. C, E and G aren't really very curvy.
This (http://www.ninjadude.com/images/Megan-Fox/megan-fox-panties.jpg).
or this (http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/23/Alyson_Hannigan_005.jpg).
Either way.
Wow. Those girls - to me - are really unattractive.
I was torn between A and H, and finally decided on A. I don't know about everyone else here, but I definitely like a woman with some meat on her bones. Skinny women aren't that attractive to me. I like my women like I like my steak, good and thick with the right amount of fat for flavor. Sexist, yes, but also very honest.
It's not sexist. Straight men are supposed to enjoy healthy women. It's normal, and much less sexist than those who expect women to look like 11 year old boys.
Wow. Those girls - to me - are really unattractive.
Really? No Megan Fox or *drool* Alyson Hannigan for you?
Granted, every time I see Buffy or hear "this one time at band camp..." I cringe. But you know, outside of those contexts, Alyson Hannigan is frigging hot. I don't know if that picture of her and Sarah Michelle Gellar topless is photoshopped or what, but damn it's hot.
Potarius
29-04-2008, 00:32
It's a toss-up between B, E, and G.
Nothing too slight, well-defined hips, and shoulders that aren't too broad.
fixed.
No offense, I love the male form, but it isn't exactly graceful. Yes, there's a lot of beauty from the waist up, but having all your tackle hanging out just ruins the flow. Consequence of external reproductive organs. Women have everything neatly tucked away and the rest of them (ideally) is all long lines and curves.
Really? No Megan Fox or *drool* Alyson Hannigan for you?
Granted, every time I see Buffy or hear "this one time at band camp..." I cringe. But you know, outside of those contexts, Alyson Hannigan is frigging hot. I don't know if that picture of her and Sarah Michelle Gellar topless is photoshopped or what, but damn it's hot.
What? What is this? Where?? I mean, uh... d'you happen to remember where you saw that?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
29-04-2008, 00:47
H actually has an hourglass figure. C, E and G aren't really very curvy.
Hourglass simply means chest and hip circumference are almost equal while waist circumference is less than three quarters that.
It doesn't mean that you have to look like Sophia Loren in a corset or be "curvy" in the "chubby" sense to be referred to as an hourglass, it simply differentiates that body type from ones with e.g. a very small hip-waist difference or wide hips combined with a small chest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_body_shape
Andaluciae
29-04-2008, 00:50
The female form is proof of an intelligent creator
True 'dat.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
29-04-2008, 01:00
I, as female, think our form is glorious.
Vectrova
29-04-2008, 01:14
I'm only really fond of F. C is okay-ish, but... meh. The person looks awful and makes it hard to judge.
HSH Prince Eric
29-04-2008, 02:18
Given the options, I would have to go with C.
Though that woman would surely take a lot of Scotch to look good.
Too skinny is almost as much a turn off as too fat. Though I wouldn't take head from a fat girl, based on principle. Though I would and have accepted it from a twig.
Amor Pulchritudo
29-04-2008, 02:21
Hourglass simply means chest and hip circumference are almost equal while waist circumference is less than three quarters that.
It doesn't mean that you have to look like Sophia Loren in a corset or be "curvy" in the "chubby" sense to be referred to as an hourglass, it simply differentiates that body type from ones with e.g. a very small hip-waist difference or wide hips combined with a small chest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_body_shape
Still, I don't think that in those pictures that those girl's waists look like they're 3/4 of their hips & soulders, that's all. I don't think you need to be curvy in the chubby sense, I just didn't interpret any of those figures as definitively hourglass except for H. They do have accentuated waists, but just in my eyes, thery're not really hourglass, that's all.
Really? No Megan Fox or *drool* Alyson Hannigan for you?
Granted, every time I see Buffy or hear "this one time at band camp..." I cringe. But you know, outside of those contexts, Alyson Hannigan is frigging hot. I don't know if that picture of her and Sarah Michelle Gellar topless is photoshopped or what, but damn it's hot.
Alyson Hannigan can be quite pretty, I just didn't like that picture, but Megan Fox's body & face (in that picture) seems very "generic" pretty to me, and the photo is a bit raunchy/porn-star-ish, and that's totally unattractive to me.
But Alyson is gorgeous, not my favourite body shape, but goregous nevertheless, just that photograph isn't her best. I barely recognised her!
Alyson Hannigan can be quite pretty, I just didn't like that picture, but Megan Fox's body & face (in that picture) seems very "generic" pretty to me, and the photo is a bit raunchy/porn-star-ish, and that's totally unattractive to me.
But Alyson is gorgeous, not my favourite body shape, but goregous nevertheless, just that photograph isn't her best. I barely recognised her!
How about this (http://scans.sicknote.org.uk/pictures/alyson_hannigan/alyson_hannigan_fhm_3/alyson_hannigan_fhm_3.jpg)?
I think this (http://ravendon.freeshell.org/pics/alyson3.jpg) is my favorite, though.
Grave_n_idle
29-04-2008, 02:52
Hard to tell with the limitations of what is available...
Probably H.
Kimtopolis
29-04-2008, 03:49
I'm going with B because that's about my body type. :3
Cant believe my A is so low on the list...You guys should be better to my Girl, lol...:cool:
Amor Pulchritudo
29-04-2008, 06:58
How about this (http://scans.sicknote.org.uk/pictures/alyson_hannigan/alyson_hannigan_fhm_3/alyson_hannigan_fhm_3.jpg)?
I think this (http://ravendon.freeshell.org/pics/alyson3.jpg) is my favorite, though.
The school girl one is so cute. Rotovia would have a field day, lol.
The second one again shows she hasn't got the most femminine body. She's fit, which is hot, but I dunno, I don't really like her stomach.
Trollgaard
29-04-2008, 07:06
Probably B or G.
I went with G on a whim.
Callisdrun
29-04-2008, 07:16
C and G. I like a nice hourglass figure, with defined hips and waist. Proportionate breasts are nice, but it's the hips and overall shape that I think really matters for the figure, speaking from an aesthetic sense.
The school girl one is so cute. Rotovia would have a field day, lol.
The second one again shows she hasn't got the most femminine body. She's fit, which is hot, but I dunno, I don't really like her stomach.
Eh, meh, neh.
More recently:
Liu Yifei (http://www.showwallpaper.com/external/Chinese_Star/Liu_Yi_Fei/Liu_Yi_Fei_060040.jpg) from Forbidden Kingdom is frigging hot, and I'm not really into the whole Asian fetish thing...
I was so undecided... I opted for the squid! Honestly, without actual silhouettes I had some trouble choosing. Also, their legs threw me off. I generally like smaller firmer bursts though, though it was too difficult to choose. In the end... They all look like squid to me now...
Intangelon
29-04-2008, 08:07
H.
Skinny is overrated, but overall, I prefer any woman who prefers me, and for what's in my head more than the meat-sack that surrounds and transports it. I should feel the same way about her.
Intangelon
29-04-2008, 08:12
How about this (http://scans.sicknote.org.uk/pictures/alyson_hannigan/alyson_hannigan_fhm_3/alyson_hannigan_fhm_3.jpg)?
I think this (http://ravendon.freeshell.org/pics/alyson3.jpg) is my favorite, though.
Hannigan is indeed very, very fine. The devastating combination of cute and sexy and not showing off enough ribs to allow a marimba recital to be played on her torso. A bit heavy on the makeup in those shots, though.
Amor Pulchritudo
29-04-2008, 12:19
Eh, meh, neh.
More recently:
Liu Yifei (http://www.showwallpaper.com/external/Chinese_Star/Liu_Yi_Fei/Liu_Yi_Fei_060040.jpg) from Forbidden Kingdom is frigging hot, and I'm not really into the whole Asian fetish thing...
LOL, "Asian fetish thing".
Again, pretty face, not a nice body (in my opinion).
Hmm, who do I think is hot?
Rhianna's body is gorgeous and her face is nice and natural. Catherine Zeta Jones' body when she's not starving herself/run down is gorgeous. I quite like Nigella Lawson's body, even though she is somewhat "bigger". I also like Kate Moss - her body is very thin, however when she's not run down/with Pete Doherty, I like her as a model. I also like Miranda Kerr - again, she's thin, but I like her as a model. Tyra Banks is beautiful too.
Amor Pulchritudo
29-04-2008, 12:27
fixed.
I have question. You don't have to answer it. It's pretty simple, really. Do you hate women? It's just an impression I get...
I got some words for ya - Drew's hotter :upyours::p:D
They're both hot.
Meridiani Planum
29-04-2008, 12:47
I voted for G, with C as a next best.
I don't like too thin or too wide. I prefer a medium width, which appears healthy to me.
I also like a narrow waist (but not wasp narrow) and curvy hips. G gives the impression that she has a great ass.
Since I prefer a well-shaped ass over big boobs, I voted for G over C. While I don't dislike big boobs, I think that medium-sized boobs look great.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Neo Myidealstate
29-04-2008, 12:48
Definitely H, with F and D as the least attractive shapes.
By process of elimination I ended up with C, E and G, preferring C of the three.
Mind you, at that point I'd already cut her head of all the pictures; she's just not my type. Of the other three, without head I prefer E, with head G; so it does have some effect whether there's a head or not and whether it's in the right proportion to the rest.
Peepelonia
29-04-2008, 14:53
Umm all of them?
Copiosa Scotia
29-04-2008, 15:02
When I did their experiment, I ended up with a form that's not included in those eight choices. However, C is the closest.
The problem, I think, is that while I like thin girls, the thinnest ones from that set look unnaturally thin, like they've been photoshopped that way.
Potarius
29-04-2008, 23:35
After much thought, Figure G comes out on top (ha!).
And yeah, Alyson Hannigan is... Well, I don't even need to say anything. Same goes for Zeta-Jones.
I have question. You don't have to answer it. It's pretty simple, really. Do you hate women? It's just an impression I get...
As far as I can tell, yes.
Besides, he would apparently rather go down on an entire male football team than a single "hairy mutant Venus fly trap". Given that I'm not sure his taste in women is in anyway reliable. His taste in men on the other hand . . .
Amor Pulchritudo
30-04-2008, 03:05
As far as I can tell, yes.
Besides, he would apparently rather go down on an entire male football team than a single "hairy mutant Venus fly trap". Given that I'm not sure his taste in women is in anyway reliable. His taste in men on the other hand . . .
I just understand why someone would hate women, and obviously, being a woman, that probably would be hard for me to understand. But, most "women haters" are typically straight. It's just... confusing, I suppose.
As far as I can tell, yes.
Besides, he would apparently rather go down on an entire male football team than a single "hairy mutant Venus fly trap". Given that I'm not sure his taste in women is in anyway reliable. His taste in men on the other hand . . .
Can't really blame him there, I'm not partial to other species myself, let alone the plant kingdom... oh, wait, was that a bad euphemism? Nevermind, then. I'll take the cheerleading squad. ;)
I would choose B to be the most attractive personally
They are all women? Yes?
I'll take the alphabet.
Soviestan
30-04-2008, 05:40
As far as I can tell, yes.
Besides, he would apparently rather go down on an entire male football team than a single "hairy mutant Venus fly trap". Given that I'm not sure his taste in women is in anyway reliable. His taste in men on the other hand . . .
It's not my fault men are far more attractive in every way, I just pointed the obvious really. And I don't hate women, I find men to be better.(I know that sounds bad but I can't think of a better way to put it.)
I just understand why someone would hate women, and obviously, being a woman, that probably would be hard for me to understand. But, most "women haters" are typically straight. It's just... confusing, I suppose.
Nah, theyre just too 'manly' to admit theyre gay...
DrVenkman
30-04-2008, 06:21
A, C, or H.
All of the others lack curves. If I wanted to date a woman with the body of a ten year old, I'd just date a ten year old.
Everywhar
30-04-2008, 07:03
It's not my fault men are far more attractive in every way, I just pointed the obvious really. And I don't hate women, I find men to be better.(I know that sounds bad but I can't think of a better way to put it.)
Birgirk???
I picked C. G is fine too. I think that Women E and F need to eat some food.
On the tangential question of the relative merits of the male and female forms, I think it's sort of like comparing lemons to limes (both are fruit, but neither existentially superior to the other). I guess as a bisexual man, I see the male and female forms as beautiful in their own way. (Though in general, I find women to be more attractive. Guys really know how to look like shit!)
Maineiacs
30-04-2008, 07:17
No, Ms. Zeta-Jones (http://home.att.net/~rcoffey/CatherineZetaJones.jpg) is where it's at. Lord, there are no words.
There is, however, drooling.:D
To answer the OP's question, I don't have a preference. That's probably because I alone and desparate, though.
Everywhar
30-04-2008, 07:27
There is, however, drooling.:D
To answer the OP's question, I don't have a preference. That's probably because I alone and desparate, though.
Oh, but trust me, you will. Look at Ms. Concentration Camp in the next thread.
I, as female, think our form is glorious.
And I as a male think your form is glorious...
:D
Lebenreich
30-04-2008, 21:30
The female form is proof of an intelligent creator
Brilliance!
And I choose H. I like a woman to have hips... :D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
30-04-2008, 21:32
And I as a male think your form is glorious...
:D
Awww, thank you, sir.:D
And I as a male think your form is glorious...
:D
Shouldn't that be my line?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
30-04-2008, 21:33
Shouldn't that be my line?
Copyright it, mate. Otherwise, it's anyone's line.:D
Amor Pulchritudo
30-04-2008, 22:54
A, C, or H.
All of the others lack curves. If I wanted to date a woman with the body of a ten year old, I'd just date a ten year old.
Haha, whenever guys say they like skinny/straight-up-and-down girls, I always think "why don't you just date a 10 year old boy?"
Greater Trostia
01-05-2008, 00:25
Haha, whenever guys say they like skinny/straight-up-and-down girls, I always think "why don't you just date a 10 year old boy?"
...because they don't have vaginas?
And there's the whole pedophilia thing.
Really, whenever a girl tells me she likes guys with facial hair, I always think "why don't you just date a grizzly bear?"
OK, I don't. But I probably will from now on. It's a valid point. How can women stand it?
Really, whenever a girl tells me she likes guys with facial hair, I always think "why don't you just date a grizzly bear?"
OK, I don't. But I probably will from now on. It's a valid point. How can women stand it?
Generally, we don't like guys covered in fur. But a little facial hair is nice! I definitely like the scruff.
My choices for figures were C,G, or H. I went with G, though I'm definitely an H.
If I had an opportunity with a woman who looked like this (http://www.movietreasures.com/SigPix/04b/b017_loren.jpg), I'd be in freaking heaven. Oh man Sophia Loren (http://www.harmonyclub.co.uk/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_30054/The~Millionairess~Sophia~Loren.jpg).
Olden Days
01-05-2008, 01:16
I'm male. I think E is the best, then F. There really isn't much of a difference though.