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So.. I couldn't make this up if I tried even though this may sound totally unbelievable to some people.

I know a girl... yeah hard to believe.

In seriousness... I know a girl who was featured in one of the latest girly videos where they get college students on their spring break or whatever to undress and kiss each other. I wasn't aware of this until a couple hours ago when she called me. Her father kicked her out of her parents house because her father just happened to have bought this perverse little video and saw her on it... so he kicked her out.

She's on a girly video...

Her dad buys it...

He has the fucking gall to be mad at her... banish from her family home mad at his daughter who is in the girly movie that he bought...

And her mom supports this...


Well since I'm not home I told her she could stay there for the night (don't mind the mess) and i won't be home until after work at lke.. 2 or 3 in the afternoon. I'm digressing...

Who else here thinks that this is a great example of hypocrisy in action?
Should I kick her dad's ass?

So.. I couldn't make this up if I tried even though this may sound totally unbelievable to some people.

I know a girl... yeah hard to believe.

In seriousness... I know a girl who was featured in one of the latest girly videos where they get college students on their spring break or whatever to undress and kiss each other. I wasn't aware of this until a couple hours ago when she called me. Her father kicked her out of her parents house because her father just happened to have bought this perverse little video and saw her on it... so he kicked her out.

She's on a girly video...

Her dad buys it...

He has the fucking gall to be mad at her... banish from her family home mad at his daughter who is in the girly movie that he bought...

And her mom supports this...


Well since I'm not home I told her she could stay there for the night (don't mind the mess) and i won't be home until after work at lke.. 2 or 3 in the afternoon. I'm digressing...

Who else here thinks that this is a great example of hypocrisy in action?
Should I kick her dad's ass?

That is just too funny (ok, not for her) and yes I'd say it is rather hypocritical of her father.
Undoubtedly what it boils down to is he's pissed that he's been getting his jollies from watching his daughter's peers.

As to kicking his ass, what exactly would that accomplish?

That is just too funny (ok, not for her) and yes I'd say it is rather hypocritical of her father.
Undoubtedly what it boils down to is he's pissed that he's been getting his jollies from watching his daughter's peers.

As to kicking his ass, what exactly would that accomplish?

Probably nothing...

My father in law kicked out my sister in law when he saw her in a playboy spread. His reasoning was if she's going to "slut around" then he isn't going to pay her rent. I brought it up that maybe he shouldn't also be supporting Playboy who pays girls to "slut around" and he told me to "shut my fucking mouth", that didn't go over well with my husband so they haven't been allowed at our house in 2 years.

Probably nothing...

In that case, go for it if you want...

My father in law kicked out my sister in law when he saw her in a playboy spread. His reasoning was if she's going to "slut around" then he isn't going to pay her rent. I brought it up that maybe he shouldn't also be supporting Playboy who pays girls to "slut around" and he told me to "shut my fucking mouth", that didn't go over well with my husband so they haven't been allowed at our house in 2 years.

:D

that is pretty retarded.

My father in law kicked out my sister in law when he saw her in a playboy spread. His reasoning was if she's going to "slut around" then he isn't going to pay her rent. I brought it up that maybe he shouldn't also be supporting Playboy who pays girls to "slut around" and he told me to "shut my fucking mouth", that didn't go over well with my husband so they haven't been allowed at our house in 2 years.

I kinda think her dad wouldn't care if I barred him from visiting my house... besides he never liked me anyway. Said "He just seems like the wrong sort."

I kinda think her dad wouldn't care if I barred him from visiting my house... besides he never liked me anyway. Said "He just seems like the wrong sort."

By the sound of it, you should take that as a compliment.

I kinda think her dad wouldn't care if I barred him from visiting my house... besides he never liked me anyway. Said "He just seems like the wrong sort."

Well, I wasn't offering advice so much as offering up that it happens often.......

My husband tends to freak the fuck out when anyone does or says anything to me that he feels is "inappropriate". He's very protective.

My sister in law btw was the only one naked in a group of coeds, I'm not entirely sure what the hell she was thinking.

I called her and congratulated her on her media fame though. I made my husband go buy me a copy because I was way too curious.....he'll never forgive me.

"You made me go buy a copy of a magazine in which my sister is butt naked..........then showed it to me!"

Yeah, he's traumatized for life.

By the sound of it, you should take that as a compliment.

Actually I do...

Yeah, that's extremely hypocritical.

If I had a daughter, I'd be proud of her for doing that, but then again, I'm a sick pervert. :p :headbang:

My father in law kicked out my sister in law when he saw her in a playboy spread. His reasoning was if she's going to "slut around" then he isn't going to pay her rent. I brought it up that maybe he shouldn't also be supporting Playboy who pays girls to "slut around" and he told me to "shut my fucking mouth", that didn't go over well with my husband so they haven't been allowed at our house in 2 years.

While he probably shouldn't have told you to 'shut your fucking mouth', his logic is still impeccable.

Well, I wasn't offering advice so much as offering up that it happens often.......

My husband tends to freak the fuck out when anyone does or says anything to me that he feels is "inappropriate". He's very protective.

My sister in law btw was the only one naked in a group of coeds, I'm not entirely sure what the hell she was thinking.

I called her and congratulated her on her media fame though. I made my husband go buy me a copy because I was way too curious.....he'll never forgive me.

"You made me go buy a copy of a magazine in which my sister is butt naked..........then showed it to me!"

Yeah, he's traumatized for life.

I understood that, but it was the only thing I could think of at the time. I agree with you (obviously) but it still upsets me. If your going to buy pornography in which case your stupid because its all over the internet for free, you can't be mad at someone for being involved in it...

While he probably shouldn't have told you to 'shut your fucking mouth', his logic is still impeccable.

How so?

I understood that, but it was the only thing I could think of at the time. I agree with you (obviously) but it still upsets me. If your going to buy pornography in which case your stupid because its all over the internet for free, you can't be mad at someone for being involved in it...

True. You have to wonder why he even bought the tape....

At least my father in law "reads the articles" in Playboy.

How so?

Because - and this is just a wild stab in the dark - he owns the house and gets to decide who lives there.

No need to be rude though. That was well out of order.

At least my father in law "reads the articles" in Playboy.

Funny story, and true.
In college, I had to write a paper on Ivan Boesky, the infamous Wall Street inside trader. As I was searching the online card catalog, I found that there was an interview with him, or an article about him, in Playboy magazine -- for which the college had a subscription.

So I fill out my request slip, and hand it to the kid behind the counter, and he takes about four steps, reading it before he stops.... looks at me.... looks at the slip... looks at me again... walks over to the non-circulating publications, gets it for me, brings it back.... looks at me again... looks at it.... and hands it to me.

Then I asked him where the nearest photocopier was, and he nearly choked.

"What? I need it for the articles."

He turned bright red -- I think either he'd used that excuse (funnier because I really meant it) or because he was having a heart attack thinking I was photocopying spreads for my later enjoyment.

Because - and this is just a wild stab in the dark - he owns the house and gets to decide who lives there.

No need to be rude though. That was well out of order.

Can't really argue with that...

It would only really be hypocrisy if he was in a similar video himself. Watching something and taking part in something are two very different things.

Funny story, and true.
In college, I had to write a paper on Ivan Boesky, the infamous Wall Street inside trader. As I was searching the online card catalog, I found that there was an interview with him, or an article about him, in Playboy magazine -- for which the college had a subscription.

So I fill out my request slip, and hand it to the kid behind the counter, and he takes about four steps, reading it before he stops.... looks at me.... looks at the slip... looks at me again... walks over to the non-circulating publications, gets it for me, brings it back.... looks at me again... looks at it.... and hands it to me.

Then I asked him where the nearest photocopier was, and he nearly choked.

"What? I need it for the articles."

He turned bright red -- I think either he'd used that excuse (funnier because I really meant it) or because he was having a heart attack thinking I was photocopying spreads for my later enjoyment.

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Because - and this is just a wild stab in the dark - he owns the house and gets to decide who lives there.

No need to be rude though. That was well out of order.

If he has such a problem with "financially supporting" the girls in Playboy, then why does he buy it?

It's like the people who bitch about "big corporations" and then go shop every fucking day at Wal*mart.

It would only really be hypocrisy if he was in a similar video himself. Watching something and taking part in something are two very different things.

He willingly bought the video with his own money to watch it. He's supporting the porno industry as surely as she was.. making him a hypocrite.

Pretty much. Yeah, it would be one thing if he just sat down with her and told her that maybe this isn't very constructive -as he personally would know- and that he wishes better for her, but to PUNISH her for not holding moral standards higher then his...!

Sounds like she's easy and vulnerable right now, play your cards right and you might lay her - try video it and send that to her father.

I should be a counsellor.

Sounds like she's easy and vulnerable right now, play your cards right and you might lay her - try video it and send that to her father.

I should be a counsellor.

I get the distinct feeling my girlfriend wouldn't like that. Besides... her and I didn't work the first time.

If he has such a problem with "financially supporting" the girls in Playboy, then why does he buy it?

It's like the people who bitch about "big corporations" and then go shop every fucking day at Wal*mart.

Possibly he doesn't have a problem 'financially supporting' the girls in playboy per se; he just doesn't want one of his relatives to be one of those girls.

And like you say, it's just like people who shop at Wal-Mart. It's all cool as long as it's not their children who are sewing the clothes.

Pretty much. Yeah, it would be one thing if he just sat down with her and told her that maybe this isn't very constructive -as he personally would know- and that he wishes better for her, but to PUNISH her for not holding moral standards higher then his...!

That's what I think, besides all the laughing in my head.

Also, a big eww to you Barringtonia.

I get the distinct feeling my girlfriend wouldn't like that. Besides... her and I didn't work the first time.

Tell your girlfriend this is a women's rights issue, get her to join in.

You need to shake the father from his repressive, close-minded view of a woman's place in society - if it was his son in the video, he's probably buy him a beer.

That's where the real hypocrisy lies.

That's what I think, besides all the laughing in my head.

Also, a big eww to you Barringtonia.

I was trying to be a bit more diplomatic.

Sounds like she's easy and vulnerable right now, play your cards right and you might lay her - try video it and send that to her father.

I should be a counsellor.

I'm NM, and I endorse this message.

Anyone else have some SERIOUS advice for me here? She can't stay with me, and I am pretty sure that just having her stay for one night is damaging her relationship with her family even more...

I feel like I'm in over my head.

I feel like I'm in over my head.

You might be. Talk to your girlfriend and this friend about it, see if the three of you can come up with a temporary solution that might last for a little longer than that. Beyond that, assuming you are in university/college/high school, you might want to consult with the counselor about this. Create a support network, if you don't already have one.

True. You have to wonder why he even bought the tape....

To masturbate of course. That probably is also why he is so angry at his daughter - she entered a sexfantasy of him.

As for constructive advice - just let her stay for the night. Try her other friends to see if they can house her for a few days. When the parents cool down they should be happy she did not sleep on the street.

If not, perhaps she should break ties with them.

he is mad he will get over it. and let her back in.

You might be. Talk to your girlfriend and this friend about it, see if the three of you can come up with a temporary solution that might last for a little longer than that. Beyond that, assuming you are in university/college/high school, you might want to consult with the counselor about this. Create a support network, if you don't already have one.

Already talked to my girlfreind, fortunatly she's as charitable as I am. I'm going to help her (the girl at my home right now) find another place to go to when I get home because I can't keep her there... not enough room and there is our history to think of.

Funny story, and true.
In college, I had to write a paper on Ivan Boesky, the infamous Wall Street inside trader. As I was searching the online card catalog, I found that there was an interview with him, or an article about him, in Playboy magazine -- for which the college had a subscription.

So I fill out my request slip, and hand it to the kid behind the counter, and he takes about four steps, reading it before he stops.... looks at me.... looks at the slip... looks at me again... walks over to the non-circulating publications, gets it for me, brings it back.... looks at me again... looks at it.... and hands it to me.

Then I asked him where the nearest photocopier was, and he nearly choked.

"What? I need it for the articles."

He turned bright red -- I think either he'd used that excuse (funnier because I really meant it) or because he was having a heart attack thinking I was photocopying spreads for my later enjoyment.

lol, that is the only reason to read those sort of magazines. Now to the main topic, it may seem a bit hypocritical especially to go that far and kick her out, and I am surprised that his wife didn't do the same to her and kick him out.

lol, that is the only reason to read those sort of magazines. Now to the main topic, it may seem a bit hypocritical especially to go that far and kick her out, and I am surprised that his wife didn't do the same to her and kick him out.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the father bought the video because he'd been informed that she was on it.

In fact, it would almost seem likely.

Did the Father buy the video in secret, or was it bought for icky parent reasons to do with getting their luuuv drive going?

she probably just needs to find a place to crash for a few days.

the dad was freaked out because of the implications of buying a naughty video that he was going to jerk off to and then finding his daughter in it.

it squicked him out.

they'll calm down and realize that whats done is done. there is no reason to lose their daughter over a one time thing. parents have learned to deal with much more serious problems than a daughter in a sleazy video.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the father bought the video because he'd been informed that she was on it.

In fact, it would almost seem likely.

If not, his explanation of why he threw his daughter out should be most amusing.

You need to shake the father from his repressive, close-minded view of a woman's place in society - if it was his son in the video, he's probably buy him a beer.

That's where the real hypocrisy lies.

Indeed. Im betting he thinks the creater is a great guy, boys will be boys and all, and if he met the guy at a bar all his drinks would be on him.


As you said, thats where the real hypocrisy is.

I am pretty sure that just having her stay for one night is damaging her relationship with her family even more...

Why the fuck would she care? Maybe Im just weird, but if my parents threw me out, well fuck them, Id never have anything to do with them again. Theyd be dead to me. Theyd never even hear from me again, not even on holidays.


I guess not everyone is as vicious and unforgiving as I am.

Sounds like she's easy and vulnerable right now, play your cards right and you might lay her - try video it and send that to her father.

I should be a counsellor.

You win this thread.

Sounds like she's easy and vulnerable right now, play your cards right and you might lay her - try video it and send that to her father.

I should be a counsellor.

True, true. I'm wondering how the mother feels about all this. Because if she's feeling upset right now, well, you could give the father a video with twice the, er, talent.

In defense of the father, what he did technically wasn't hypocritical. If he had told his daughter to not go in those movies and then went in one himself it would be. However, he could think that it's wrong to go into those movies, but it's completely ok to buy those movies despite being married and watch them, so technically it's not hypocritical, although I do think the father was wrong, and that's what matters.

In defense of the father, what he did technically wasn't hypocritical. If he had told his daughter to not go in those movies and then went in one himself it would be. However, he could think that it's wrong to go into those movies, but it's completely ok to buy those movies despite being married and watch them, so technically it's not hypocritical, although I do think the father was wrong, and that's what matters.

I would argue that such a stance is hypocritical-- by purchasing the video, he's helped provide a financial incentive for more people to do it. Either he feels that female sexuality is wrong, in which case he should not purchase videos depicting it (and thereby encourage it), or it is not, in which case his daughter hasn't done anything wrong.

What if an animal rights activist bought meat from a slaughterhouse he knew to use inhumane practices? That would be hypocritical, no?

This is, as far as I can see, a near-identical situation.

I brought it up that maybe he shouldn't also be supporting Playboy who pays girls to "slut around" and he told me to "shut my fucking mouth", that didn't go over well with my husband so they haven't been allowed at our house in 2 years.

Well played ma'am!

Yes, the bloke who is the subject of this thread is an out-and-out hypocrite, and if not ass-kicked, utterly ridiculed.

In defense of the father, what he did technically wasn't hypocritical. If he had told his daughter to not go in those movies and then went in one himself it would be. However, he could think that it's wrong to go into those movies, but it's completely ok to buy those movies despite being married and watch them, so technically it's not hypocritical, although I do think the father was wrong, and that's what matters.

Actually it is hypocritical, the guy bought the video, so he obviously doesnt mind other peoples daughters going at it on tape, but he kicks his own daughter out for doing the same.

"What? I need it for the articles."

He turned bright red -- I think either he'd used that excuse (funnier because I really meant it) or because he was having a heart attack thinking I was photocopying spreads for my later enjoyment.Actually, at least where the German version is concerned, the articles are pretty much all that the Playboy really has going for it.
You need to shake the father from his repressive, close-minded view of a woman's place in society - if it was his son in the video, he's probably buy him a beer.Judging from the reaction towards the daughter, I'd imagine he'd kill his son if he'd seen him making out with other guys.

Anyone else have some SERIOUS advice for me here? She can't stay with me, and I am pretty sure that just having her stay for one night is damaging her relationship with her family even more...

She needs to get back and have it out with her dad. And yes he is a hypocrit.

No offense (or is it offence? grr), but theres alot more to this story then your being told.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the father bought the video because he'd been informed that she was on it.

In fact, it would almost seem likely.

Seconded. Before saying the dad is an hippocrit, we should find out if he's got a whole collection ofr if he bought only this one 'cause he was told his daughter is in it.

So.. I couldn't make this up if I tried even though this may sound totally unbelievable to some people.

I know a girl... yeah hard to believe.

In seriousness... I know a girl who was featured in one of the latest girly videos where they get college students on their spring break or whatever to undress and kiss each other. I wasn't aware of this until a couple hours ago when she called me. Her father kicked her out of her parents house because her father just happened to have bought this perverse little video and saw her on it... so he kicked her out.

She's on a girly video...

Her dad buys it...

He has the fucking gall to be mad at her... banish from her family home mad at his daughter who is in the girly movie that he bought...

And her mom supports this...


Well since I'm not home I told her she could stay there for the night (don't mind the mess) and i won't be home until after work at lke.. 2 or 3 in the afternoon. I'm digressing...

Who else here thinks that this is a great example of hypocrisy in action?
Should I kick her dad's ass?

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Do you live in like... the deep South...?

No offense (or is it offence? grr), but theres alot more to this story then your being told.

lol.


And you would know this how? Are you or do you know any of the parties involved?


If the answer is no, then shut your mouth.

Actually it is hypocritical, the guy bought the video, so he obviously doesnt mind other peoples daughters going at it on tape, but he kicks his own daughter out for doing the same.

^^ This.

Actually it is hypocritical, the guy bought the video, so he obviously doesnt mind other peoples daughters going at it on tape, but he kicks his own daughter out for doing the same.

Good point. However, another question is: did the father really care that it was his daughter that was appearing on the movie, or did he just feel disgusted at the idea of masturbating to his daughter on the video, and then lash out at her in retaliation?

Good point. However, another question is: did the father really care that it was his daughter that was appearing on the movie, or did he just feel disgusted at the idea of masturbating to his daughter on the video, and then lash out at her in retaliation?

I'm going to go with the latter...

Good point. However, another question is: did the father really care that it was his daughter that was appearing on the movie, or did he just feel disgusted at the idea of masturbating to his daughter on the video, and then lash out at her in retaliation?

The latter, obviously. He probably came when he saw her. Imagine the embarrassment.

I'm going to go with the latter...

So this raises the next question about hypocrisy, does intent matter? If he's against everyone but his daughter appearing in those kinds of videos, and he supports them for everyone but himself, then it could be considered hypocrisy. But, if he merely lashed out because she interfered with him doing his business, would it still be hypocritical, or would it just be him getting mad for a different reason? I don't think it's hypocritical for him to get mad at his daughter and then lash out at her for interfering with him. It's very wrong, I'll agree on that, and that is a bad father, but I don't think that it's hypocritical, because I believe that intent is part of proving someone a hypocrite.

Good point. However, another question is: did the father really care that it was his daughter that was appearing on the movie, or did he just feel disgusted at the idea of masturbating to his daughter on the video, and then lash out at her in retaliation?

One assumes he knew what to expect from the video when he bought it. And - unless the daughter was the very first thing on the video, he'd have had a pretty good idea what the content was - by the time he got to her.

So - he's okay with other people's daughters being fodder for HIS sexual fantasies, but takes exception to his own daughter allowing herself to be seen in the same way.

Probably because he's suddenly face-to-face with the knowledge that, every time he adds one of these girls to his spankbank, it's someone's kid.

two points SaintB.

1) if that's all that's on the tape, it sounds like Girls Gone Wild. It being porn is like an R rated movie being porn.

2) Her father is suffering from a "It happens to others" syndrome. He (and his wife) were probably caught off guard by her appearing on the tape (especially if he's been saying how 'sweet and well brought up his little girl is.')

so he over reacted. it happens to anyone.

The telling tale would be how long will this reaction last.

My husband tends to freak the fuck out when anyone does or says anything to me that he feels is "inappropriate". He's very protective.
Smunkee... I'd freak out if anyone did anything to you that I feel is 'inappropriate'. of course this would be true for anyone I consider a friend.