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Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?

I dislike this word and it annoys me that many of my non-black friends use it (but only if there are no black people around of course, those cowardly dummies). They think it's a funny word and use it in a variety of contexts, including as a curse- for example: "I just failed the chem exam. ******."

Whenever my non-black friends use it I always ask them to never say it again.

I hate it when anybody uses that word.

Eh. It doesn't bother me much. I don't use it personally, because I find it distasteful. However, I don't find it distasteful because of any implied racism. Rather, I view anyone using the word trying too hard to be cool and that irritates me. It's annoying when people get all tied up in "Oh, help! He's hating on me!"

Nachos?

I despise that word, as far as friends using it, well, they aren't really my friends if they cannot respect my thoughts...But of course, in the words of George Carlin, "You know why it's okay for blacks to call other blacks n*gger?...Because they're n*ggers!" I don't really agree, but it is a silly concept.

If you aren't willing to say it in a room filled with the people whom you are using the word to describe, then you just plain shouldn't say it, ever.

More than that, the legacy of that word is disgusting, and if a black person were to use it to describe themselves, they demean themselves in doing so.

I don't use it, and try pretty hard to never use any racial slur. I hae alot of friends who do, and I do what I can to get them not to.

I will use it in a discussion (for example, when reading Huck Finn, I don't say "The N word", I say "******")

Only when quoting(edit: and discussing). Not as much because I have a problem with it as because I don't know if the people around me do and it's probably better not to risk it.


Though my token black friend apparently doesn't mind. :)

What N word? Noodles?

As a black male myself, let me just point something out.

I've seen more Puerto Ricans use the word than blacks. Generally, we stay away from the use of the word (despite what you may believe). GENERALLY, meaning that some of us (us being blacks) use the word, of course.

But in reality, I hate the word. I also hate the words "Crack*r", "H*nky", etc. But, I don't mind when my friends (black, white, Asian, whatever) use the word in a joking manner. If I ever use a racist word against them (whether it be against whites, Asians, etc.), I deserve to get my ass kicked unless I was kidding. They also deserve to get their asses kicked when using the Nig*er unless they were kidding.

Yes I do, but only online and only for humor and trolling purposes.

I just say black dude, thus the factual description from the person's looks ;) So no, never ******, although factually ****** just means black dude as well since it comes from the Greek negros. But ofcourse, it has a huge cultural load. The only exception is sometimes in a friendly/joking conversation with 2 of my classmates from Suriname. Awesome dudes, and I totally love there accent.

I don't use it but I don't mind if black people use it. It might be a retarded position but my reason for being OK with black people using it is that you can know for sure that they're only using it jokingly and not in the way it's been used historically. A non-black person could use it jokingly but there's no way to know the truth and that makes things awkward.

I don't use the word. Any opinions I may have on other people saying ****** depend on the context.

Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?

I dislike this word and it annoys me that many of my non-black friends use it (but only if there are no black people around of course, those cowardly dummies). They think it's a funny word and use it in a variety of contexts, including as a curse- for example: "I just failed the chem exam. ******."

Whenever my non-black friends use it I always ask them to never say it again.

I don't use it personally, but I do when I'm quoting something or someone. Once, someone got mad at me when we were talking about To Kill A Mockingbird in class, and I said somebody in the story referred to a black character as "having a ****** mentality". I just told him what I meant, and he was okay with it.

I use it to describe niggers, not black people. Lots of people fall into this category, not just blacks, thanks to fine, upstanding role models in the black community like Flava Flave and Snoop Dogg. Anyone that ignorant is a ******, regardless of the color of their skin.

Don't really use it, for alot of reasons. I remember being in the military and having people make jokes about the "sand niggers" in Iran and such. It kind of made me feel left out and separated from my brothers. I served with these guys every day, and it made me wonder if they thought I was less than a soldier or patriot because of my ethnicity ( I have a very "white" last name, so people are unaware of my majority Iranian/Jewish ancestry). I really wouldn't wanna do that to anyone else, because it hurts the trust factor. Also, a good portion of my friends and family are foreign, and they don't even know what the hell that means. IF I did say it, they might miss the negative connotations and assume that is an acceptable word for blacks. Still, I don't care if blacks use it. If it's fine with them, then it's fine with me, really. I don't know any that do, though.

only when quoting someone/something.

like from "Blazing Saddles"
"excuse me sir, but he specifically said two niggers... to let you in on a family secret.... my Mother was Dutch-Irish..."

I don't use it but I don't mind if black people use it. It might be a retarded position but my reason for being OK with black people using it is that you can know for sure that they're only using it jokingly and not in the way it's been used historically. A non-black person could use it jokingly but there's no way to know the truth and that makes things awkward.

Why Massuh Norhills, thankee so much fo lettin us po nigguh folks talk how wes choosin to. Isa sho lucky to be havin such a kind and gracious massuh as yosef.

Seriously, where do people get off telling races they don't belong to what is and is not PC for that race? Its rediculous.

I don't use it, but I don't care if other people do. I believe in free speech.

Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?

I dislike this word and it annoys me that many of my non-black friends use it (but only if there are no black people around of course, those cowardly dummies). They think it's a funny word and use it in a variety of contexts, including as a curse- for example: "I just failed the chem exam. ******."

Whenever my non-black friends use it I always ask them to never say it again.

I'm of Irish decent and don't like it when people use the P (Paddy) or M (Mick) word either. Do they care? Hell no. I realize they use it out of ignorance. My high school buddy of Italian decent probably hates it when someone uses the G (Ginni) or the W (Wapp) word, but he realizes people use it out of ignorance or hate. We both get over it. :rolleyes:

I absolutely don't use it, and I think it is a poor choice on anyone's part to use it. However, I don't feel like it's my place to tell black people that they should be offended by it if they're not. Similarly, if a woman wants to refer to herself as a "****," it will make me uncomfortable, as I think that term has a lot of really nasty sexist baggage, but I don't feel like it's my place to tell her how to describe herself.

Of course, if anyone uses such words to refer to people who do object to it, I will most definitely tell them off.

If you aren't willing to say it in a room filled with the people whom you are using the word to describe, then you just plain shouldn't say it, ever.

More than that, the legacy of that word is disgusting, and if a black person were to use it to describe themselves, they demean themselves in doing so.

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More than that, the legacy of that word is disgusting, and if a black person were to use it to describe themselves, they demean themselves in doing so.

Nonsense. To "reclaim" a word like that, to use it ironically or defiantly, is to do precisely the opposite: it is to assert one's own worth.

Why Massuh Norhills, thankee so much fo lettin us po nigguh folks talk how wes choosin to. Isa sho lucky to be havin such a kind and gracious massuh as yosef.

Seriously, where do people get off telling races they don't belong to what is and is not PC for that race? Its rediculous.

K.

While I dont use it myself, i find the whole taboo thats grown up around it rather ridiculous. Its practically the only true swear word left, apart from **** possibly.

Maybe if some people used it a bit more then it'd be less of a big thing, or maybe there would be more race crimes, who knows.

Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?

I dislike this word and it annoys me that many of my non-black friends use it (but only if there are no black people around of course, those cowardly dummies). They think it's a funny word and use it in a variety of contexts, including as a curse- for example: "I just failed the chem exam. ******."

Whenever my non-black friends use it I always ask them to never say it again.

Define 'black'.

I thought blacks referred to each other as "Niggah' in the gang/hip-hop style as just another quick name to call each other, like Homie, or 'G', ....but ****** is the insult version

There was this time i found funny, when these black guys stared calling each other 'Kaffir' (the afrikaan word for ******),....up until someone told them what it meant, then they stopped using it:D

I basically never use the word. I find it really odd that blacks use it themselves, given it doesn't really have a good connotations. The whole idea of blacks being able to use it, but not whites is a bit ridiculous. It's like saying blacks can't use "cracker" because thats "our word." *shrug*

I wouldn\t use it myself, but as long black people use it themselves, I would have no moral issues about it. If its that horrible that noone can use it, then they shouldn\t use it themselves.

Negro on the other hand is part of my every day speak, and is the most normal term to use on a black person here in Norway. Even the police and other public figures use it.

I hate it when anybody uses that word.

Agreed, if it is offensive, let it be offensive, if it isn't... it isn't.

I don't like the double-standard. Now, don't get me wrong, I do object to it's use in general, as it is meant to be a strictly derrogatory term.

Much like the term "fag" (pardon my use at all, I would never say the word in conversation, and I hate using it even in an explanatory context), I wouldn't like it if gay people used it on each other and got mad at others for using... no one should use it. Except lumberjacks perhaps... but that would be a professional reason (oh right, and Brits who smoke, lol).

Nachos?



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I use it when discussing literature that contains the word; otherwise, I don't, and I don't like it when people throw it around any more than I like Kike, Spic, Guinea, Sandnigger, Dago, etc etc etc.

I never use it. It even grates my ears when I hear my fiance use it or when I hear it on TV. Words by themselves aren´t bad. It´s the connotation we give them what is horrible.

Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?

I dislike this word and it annoys me that many of my non-black friends use it (but only if there are no black people around of course, those cowardly dummies). They think it's a funny word and use it in a variety of contexts, including as a curse- for example: "I just failed the chem exam. ******."

Whenever my non-black friends use it I always ask them to never say it again.
Growing up it was "the word you don't say", we would get our ass beat if we did, but then we said it all the time anyway, the adults did, brazil nuts are ****** toes, if you knock on someone's door and run away it's ****** knocking, if you repair something in a way it will break again soon it's ****** rigged. I grew up in a neighborhood that was like 80% black, so I was really uncomfortable with my family saying things like these, and I always tried not to... it's part of the culture around here though, people say it without thinking. Speaking of saying things without thinking.......I was over at my friend Tylesha's house when I was like 6 and we were getting into mischief and her mom came in and caught us pouring bubble bath into the toilet and flushing it.....she screamed "OH HELL NO! I'M GONNA WHOOP THE BLACK RIGHT OUT OF YOU!" ........I'm really really really white, so I was confused as to what exactly was going to happen to me, but I'm sure it was bad.

I basically never use the word. I find it really odd that blacks use it themselves, given it doesn't really have a good connotations. The whole idea of blacks being able to use it, but not whites is a bit ridiculous. It's like saying blacks can't use "cracker" because thats "our word." *shrug*

Meh, I think blacks using it is like blondes being able to make blonde jokes... jokes directed at oneself are safe to laugh at, and something similar goes for racism, up to a point.

Growing up it was "the word you don't say", we would get our ass beat if we did, but then we said it all the time anyway, the adults did, brazil nuts are ****** toes, if you knock on someone's door and run away it's ****** knocking, if you repair something in a way it will break again soon it's ****** rigged. I grew up in a neighborhood that was like 80% black, so I was really uncomfortable with my family saying things like these, and I always tried not to... it's part of the culture around here though, people say it without thinking. Speaking of saying things without thinking.......I was over at my friend Tylesha's house when I was like 6 and we were getting into mischief and her mom came in and caught us pouring bubble bath into the toilet and flushing it.....she screamed "OH HELL NO! I'M GONNA WHOOP THE BLACK RIGHT OUT OF YOU!" ........I'm really really really white, so I was confused as to what exactly was going to happen to me, but I'm sure it was bad.

Brazil Nuts are Brazil Nuts (Unless your in Brazil.. then they are nuts)
If you knock on someone's door and run away its called Ding Dong Ditch
If you repair something in a way when its going to break again soon its called Jury Rigged. Perhaps this will help you :)

, brazil nuts are ****** toes, if you knock on someone's door and run away it's ****** knocking, if you repair something in a way it will break again soon it's ****** rigged.

Haha! It was the same down in the South!

I don't give a damn if anyone says it or not.

I really don't use, except when singing some songs. But I rarely sing those songs any more.

Brazil Nuts are Brazil Nuts (Unless your in Brazil.. then they are nuts)
If you knock on someone's door and run away its called Ding Dong Ditch
If you repair something in a way when its going to break again soon its called Jury Rigged. Perhaps this will help you :)

What I'm teaching my children

Brazil nuts are yummy! (but a bitch to get to... stupid protective shell!)
If you knock on someone's door and run away, you're being rude.
If you repair something in such a way that it's going to break again soon... you did a half ass job.

also, I replaced ****** rigged with ghetto rigged for a while when I was a teen until someone started some shit about how people who live in the ghetto aren't half ass......except I wasn't talking about people who live in the ghetto I was talking about something half broken, like the ghetto, and I was referring to the manifold in my car that I lived in

The idea that a single word, when uttered, can cause everyone who hears it to feel uncomfortable is just ridiculous. Bad words are like religion and political parties. Its the same Bullshit.

And to people who say "N-word" rather than "******," I don't see how thats supposed to be less offensive.

Nigga Please. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY)

and

Dave Chapelle is da man. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D3r_PGz4sg)

The idea that a single word, when uttered, can cause everyone who hears it to feel uncomfortable is just ridiculous. Bad words are like religion and political parties. Its the same Bullshit.

And to people who say "N-word" rather than "******," I don't see how thats supposed to be less offensive.

Nigga Please. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY)

and

Dave Chapelle is da man. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D3r_PGz4sg)

It is rather silly

My bf used to use it (he's black) but stopped a couple of years ago. He grew up in a place where most people were black and used it, but he made a choice not to later. I don't think he thought about it very much before--it was just a word he used with his friends just like 'blood' or 'patnah'.

Personally, I curse up a storm but I cringe whenever I hear a racial or mysoginistic slur.

lol niggers

I used to get very, very offended when I would hear the n-word. But now, I've heard it so many times from people using it on the internet either for shock value or because they were racist loonies that I have become almost completely desensitized to hearing it.

Eh... for me, I don't very often use it. Mostly trolling or in jest.

Beyond that, I only use it as a distinction for a black person who does nothing to be an upstanding citizen and disregards opportunity to improve. Then again, I do that with most other racial slurs, too. I can't recall ever using any of them in recent years, though.

Being a /b/tard more or less, I say it a lot--mostly to lighter-skinned people. I think people should stop getting offended by it. Once that happens, it loses its meaning.

Nonsense. To "reclaim" a word like that, to use it ironically or defiantly, is to do precisely the opposite: it is to assert one's own worth.

In order for it to be "reclaimed" it has to lose its offensive impact.

Black people will have "reclaimed" the word ****** when they don't mind when white people call them niggers. Until they stop caring about it, the word will have power over them rather than them having power over it.

Sort of like how "cracker" or "gwai lo" isn't offensive to white people.

****** is offensive to black people because they are offended by it, when they choose to stop being offended by it, it won't be offensive to them anymore.

A group of people that annoy you. A: N_ggers.

Yes, the correct answer is Naggers

If I'm being brutally honest, I really don't give a shit most of the time unless it is used for the specific purpose to cause offence or used around people who will find it offensive.

I especially hate it when people say sand n*****s! :mad:

I especially hate it when people say sand n*****s! :mad:

Sand niggers
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Not sure. Much depends upon context for me; in the company of Indian friends whom I know well, neither me, my friends, nor them, have any objection to "racial" humour. We're all sufficiently intelligent, and comfortable in each other's company, to know that, if anything, it demonstrates that race is not a consideration.

That said, I do take offence to being called "white boy" or the like by those whom I do not know (invariably, I don't. The sort of people likely to make such comments tend not to fall in my social circles, at all).

Neither an arbitrary, blanket ban, nor a belief that the word can be used and understood without it's historical context, works. Prudence, thought and consideration must be used.

Well you know there is nigga and ******.

Nigga is used like dude or dog and such, so nobody I know gets offended by it. Except for tight wads that is.

****** is used for offensive reasons, and are gonna get beat if you say that.

Besides, everybody can tell the difference between the two if they actually listen.

It's a word! It means BLACK from its original root. The point is, it shouldn't be a big deal.
There is an episode of the cartoon "Recess" when the kids use the word "whomp" in place of a dirty word. It eventually gets everyone's attention and becomes just as bad as a dirty word was in the first place.

It's a word! It means BLACK from its original root. The point is, it shouldn't be a big deal.
There is an episode of the cartoon "Recess" when the kids use the word "whomp" in place of a dirty word. It eventually gets everyone's attention and becomes just as bad as a dirty word was in the first place.

Correct, "it shouldn't be a big deal". On a purely literal level, ****** would be another colloquial term for "black". However, the contemporary definition of a word is determined as much by etymology as the context in which ithas previously been used, and in this sense, "******" is inextricably linked to a historical epoch which, to contemporary standards, is morally despicable.

The N word is simply stupid. Too racist.

I use it only with my close circle of friends, and even then it's never to refer to black people. Although I did once tell a blue-eyed friend of mine that he'd never make it in life because he had "the ******-eyes" but the unexpected and shock-value nature of the statement made that joke work.

Apart from my inner-troll, I can't stand the word used in a racist sense.

Incidentally, one of my friends showed me that new board on 4chan, and there was a post with a guy saying that 4chan had affected him too much because he had knocked over a diorama during his presentation in one of his college classes and, instead of yelling "fuck" or "shit", he yelled "Double ******".

The N word is simply stupid. Too racist.

well what else can they be called?

Coon
Treemonkey
Junglebunny
Mooncricket - (i have no clue about this one, i just heard it from an american)
Jiggaboo - (another american one)

what else?

*snip*

I'm not going to quote what you said because we don't need a duplicate of a monument to idiocy. My suggestion: call people by their names. I know, it's wild, but it just might work.

Mods, please, can't we bench this guy for a few games?

I use the word all the time, and like it when other people use it too. It shows that it's just a word, and people should get over it.
People invented words to express certain points of view, and it's the view I'm expressing that offends you, not the word or its history.When I use the word ****** I mean black people, islanders, aborignes, arabs. I don't mean whites.

****** means black person, nothing more. I'm ignoring history and going by what it means.

Cotton picking ******, on the other hand...

I use it for comic effect whenever I see my also white friends. "Sup ma nigga!" + *ghetto hand gestures* = comic times.

I use it for comic effect whenever I see my also white friends. "Sup ma nigga!" + *ghetto hand gestures* = comic times.

Every time i see a white guy, especially one i know, who does that wigger/gangsta crap, i immediately wish i had a brick in my hand,....for obvious reasons

Especially one guy who is ultra-pathetic, he is about 50 pounds overweight and dresses exactly like Ali G - white gangsta clothes and gold chains/rings etc - trouble is, he was hit in the head with a hammer by his mother when he was young, and my best friend and i agree thats what caused him to be a wigger, so i feel a brick to the head could only make him worse

I'm not going to quote what you said because we don't need a duplicate of a monument to idiocy. My suggestion: call people by their names. I know, it's wild, but it just might work.

Mods, please, can't we bench this guy for a few games?

Yeah, wow. I'm the opposite of PC and even I thought it was a bit...strong.

In other news:

Niglett (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/RhynoD/untitled-2.jpg)

Every time i see a white guy, especially one i know, who does that wigger/gangsta crap, i immediately wish i had a brick in my hand,....for obvious reasons
Well aye :p

I don't do it To Be Cool, really just taking the piss. Get a grip.

I absolutely don't use it, and I think it is a poor choice on anyone's part to use it. However, I don't feel like it's my place to tell black people that they should be offended by it if they're not. Similarly, if a woman wants to refer to herself as a "****," it will make me uncomfortable, as I think that term has a lot of really nasty sexist baggage, but I don't feel like it's my place to tell her how to describe herself.

Of course, if anyone uses such words to refer to people who do object to it, I will most definitely tell them off.

You can actually use **** for anyone. [/nitpick]

The other day I was out waiting for a bus and some (black) girl was cussing out her (black) boyfriend(?) and every other sentence was ****** this and ****** that and thought, "Now isn't this just a fine example of how not to use racial slurs."

I hear peole mis-pronouncing ****** as "nigga" and saying, "Oh no, it doesn't meant that at all" and I think to myself, "Damn, didn't this idiot pass fourth grade English class?"

Maybe I'm intolerant, ignorant, or what have you but words like "nigga" are asinine. They are complete and total fabrications because people got hung up on the word "******" and couldn't get dislodged. It'd be just as stupid as if Italians called each other "wips" and white people called each other "hokies."

As for other derrogatory terms for black people...

I was chatting with a friend of mine once when a gay guy we knew was walking past. I gave him crap about urban monkey something or other. The guy was white but the other day I caught him singing Urban Monkey Warfare by KMFDM. On his way back the other way I said, "If you're not into that we've got some hot jungle bunny love for you" or something like that.

Some homeless black guy, drunk off his rocker, flipped out on me thinking I made some sort of racist comment. It wasn't until 10-15 minutes after he stumbled off that I remembered all the racist terms, including jungle bunny, I'd heard while growing up.

Then there's "porch monkeys." Now, I'll be honest, we're all monkeys, or at least primates, and when you get right down to it hillbillies and rednecks are, by stereotyping their activities, closer to "porch monkey" than most black people are.

Either way you slice it you will eventually find that something you've been saying all your life will offend someone out there even if 99.999999999% of the other people you've met to date don't find it offensive.

Life's too short to worry about offending others so just say what you mean in the best way possible and let others have problems with what you say, not how you say it.

If you can't say what you mean and mean what you say then you should just shut up.

And yes, people wanting to ask how I'm doing by saying, "What's up?" bug the crap out of me. :headbang:

You can actually use **** for anyone. [/nitpick]

You can't use it for me.

I know what you meant, but even another girl can't use that word with me. I almost beat down my first college roomie for that.

I absolutely don't use it, and I think it is a poor choice on anyone's part to use it. However, I don't feel like it's my place to tell black people that they should be offended by it if they're not. Similarly, if a woman wants to refer to herself as a "****," it will make me uncomfortable, as I think that term has a lot of really nasty sexist baggage, but I don't feel like it's my place to tell her how to describe herself.

Of course, if anyone uses such words to refer to people who do object to it, I will most definitely tell them off.

Hey now, some people like being called names.....

I use the word all the time, and like it when other people use it too. It shows that it's just a word, and people should get over it.
People invented words to express certain points of view, and it's the view I'm expressing that offends you, not the word or its history.When I use the word ****** I mean black people, islanders, aborignes, arabs. I don't mean whites.

****** means black person, nothing more. I'm ignoring history and going by what it means.

Cotton picking ******, on the other hand...

You are funny. There are basicaly two ways to look at it. It is historicaly a derogary term employed by the white man to keep the blackman down.

Or it is used by the blackman as a way to reclaim the word and take away the negative connetations, much like the word queer for the gay community.

The second option I belive is untenable, the history of the word is toomuch and too soon, so for now we should consign it to the world of forgotten, unsued words.

Nachos?

God love you Manvir, it's just not a party unless you're invited is it?

Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?

I dislike this word and it annoys me that many of my non-black friends use it (but only if there are no black people around of course, those cowardly dummies). They think it's a funny word and use it in a variety of contexts, including as a curse- for example: "I just failed the chem exam. ******."

Whenever my non-black friends use it I always ask them to never say it again.

My friends and I say ****** and every other racial slur all the time, because offensive things are funny. Lots of our jokes feature abortion, rape, STD's and dead baby jesus as well.

I'm not going to quote what you said because we don't need a duplicate of a monument to idiocy. My suggestion: call people by their names. I know, it's wild, but it just might work.

Mods, please, can't we bench this guy for a few games?

Reminds me of the time a sociology class I was in got into a discussion of "labels" and PC. I was asked what I thought of some of the "PC" terms for the diabled; things like "differently abled" or "handi-capable". I said I hate those terms. When asked what I did prefer to be called I replied with my name.

The N word?

Nerd?

It's interesting how it's acceptable to group people based on their social standing under a word which has negative connotations.

While using a derivative of black - niger - is inexcusable..

The N word?

Nerd?

It's interesting how it's acceptable to group people based on their social standing under a word which has negative connotations.

While using a derivative of black - niger - is inexcusable..

More funny people!

It is inexcusable because of its history, it's meaning, and the way it is used? Give it say 200-300 years of nerds beaing beaten to the chant of 'nerd, nerd nerd nerd' and then we'll be approaching someing similar.

I never say it, and I tend to tell off anyone who says it around me.

I never say it, and I tend to tell off anyone who says it around me.

There's a thing. AP exemplifying the best traditions of the harassing, interventionist modern polity. My, how unexpected.

The N word?

Nerd?

It's interesting how it's acceptable to group people based on their social standing under a word which has negative connotations.

While using a derivative of black - niger - is inexcusable..

Shut up nerd

God love you Manvir, it's just not a party unless you're invited is it?

Of course it isn't. Who else will bring the Nachos?

I don't use it and I think that people who do use it are not helping anything but I don't tell people how to talk or what to feel when they hear certain words.

I think it's equally stupid when people use "gay" as a replacement for "lame" or "stupid"

I used to say "what up my cracka?" to my friends in H.S. to demonstrate how stupid it all was but I got over that.

While using a derivative of black - niger - is inexcusable..
Why do you hate the proud nation of Niger? :(

I hate it when anybody uses that word.

Same here.

However, I also support free speech, so if anyone wants to use the word, they have every right to, provided they are on their own property, or that the owner of whomever's property they are on consents.

The use of any word should always be taken into context. If somebody were to take offense to a word regardless of the context with which it is used, that's not the fault of the individual using the "offending" word. If however the individual speaking uses them in a derogatory manner, then they should probably expect some sort of a retaliation.

The use of the word "******" is no different. If I were to call a black man a ******, then I wouldn't be surprised if he decided react to that. If on the other hand, I was explaining to somebody that people used to, and in some cases they still do, call black people niggers as an attempted insult, then there should be no reason for somebody to take offense.

You can't use it for me.

I know what you meant, but even another girl can't use that word with me. I almost beat down my first college roomie for that.

Yeah, I figured. I just meant that a guy can be called a **** (see Sharon Osbourne) or a guy can call themselves a **** (see the movie Snatch).

I don't use it because I see no reason for it, but that's not the same as getting all wound up about it if someone else does.

A word like '******' has only as much power to offend or to hurt as we give it. When I was growing up I was taught not to give such words any power. (Anyone else remember the little song 'Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me'?)

I never say it, and I tend to tell off anyone who says it around me.

Nigga Please (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY)

and

Fuck yo couch nigga! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF4STGmM-HU)

I also do not like it when anybody uses that word.

Do you use the N word? What are your opinions about it? Should black people call each other niggers while getting pissed off when other people call them niggers?



I'll admit it, I say it all the time. I also use the terms 'spic', 'prairie ******' and 'motherfucking cracka'. It comes out when I start using terms like 'fo shizzle ma nizzle' ... almost against my will :p

The thing is, I'm aware of context, and I take my cues thusly. My husband calls me a savage, I call him a spic. Among my friends, my Somalian classmate gets called a nigga, to which he cracks jokes about my penchant for scalping people. We all pic on the British-born white girl who hangs out with us while she bemoans the end of colonialism. Among ourselves, all manner of horrible insults lose their sting and become terms of endearment.

The second someone else attempts to immitate our jocular expressions of racial dischord however, tis not good. Context people. Just because I let certain people call me a dirty savage Indian, doesn't mean I'm not going to punch you in the face if you try it. Nor would I say any of these things to a stranger, regardless of their ethnicity.

It's okay for me, and my friends, to say certain things to one another. It is not okay for you to say those same things. The reverse is also true. I am not going to assume, from overhearing you calling your friend a horrid ****, that I get to walk up to him and say "hey you horrid ****, how's it going?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqsDRQJesMI

That's how I use ******. :/

Why do you hate the proud nation of Niger? :(
Because it should be renamed Nerd in name of political correctness!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqsDRQJesMI

That's how I use ******. :/

:p lol
do you also wave guns around at the other guy?

*explanation of 'words used in proper context'*


to shorten your post a bit, you detailed that it is how you use a word, and who is it used to that defines the personal meaning of that word

I'm German, and my Russian friend and I dig at each other about things, we both know we're just teasing and its nothing serious - hell, every time we get talking about WW2, our debates come to a stalemate and we just pick the **** out of the USA, because we can both totally agree on that:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w&feature=related

There's a thing. AP exemplifying the best traditions of the harassing, interventionist modern polity. My, how unexpected.

Oh my, The blessed Chris being reported to moderation. How unexpected.

to shorten your post a bit, you detailed that it is how you use a word, and who is it used to that defines the personal meaning of that word *snip*

My opinion is that even though words can be used diffently and in different contexts, the N word has a long history that is heavily linked to slavery and racism, and while someone may attempt to use it colloquially or in jest, the word still has those roots. No matter how you say a word, you can't completely defy it's meaning.

I've kind of thought of it like this... if you're walking down the street with your "gangsta shit on" and got your pants pulled down around knees, holdn' your wee-wee like somebody gonna steal it. Then when your brotha greets ya to go "cripp'n"... you are what he says you are.

I'll admit it, I say it all the time. I also use the terms 'spic', 'prairie ******' and 'motherfucking cracka'. It comes out when I start using terms like 'fo shizzle ma nizzle' ... almost against my will :p

The thing is, I'm aware of context, and I take my cues thusly. My husband calls me a savage, I call him a spic. Among my friends, my Somalian classmate gets called a nigga, to which he cracks jokes about my penchant for scalping people. We all pic on the British-born white girl who hangs out with us while she bemoans the end of colonialism. Among ourselves, all manner of horrible insults lose their sting and become terms of endearment.

The second someone else attempts to immitate our jocular expressions of racial dischord however, tis not good. Context people. Just because I let certain people call me a dirty savage Indian, doesn't mean I'm not going to punch you in the face if you try it. Nor would I say any of these things to a stranger, regardless of their ethnicity.

It's okay for me, and my friends, to say certain things to one another. It is not okay for you to say those same things. The reverse is also true. I am not going to assume, from overhearing you calling your friend a horrid ****, that I get to walk up to him and say "hey you horrid ****, how's it going?"

Exactly. I don't say these things around strangers, but my friends and I use offensive slurs all the time, often while addressing each other. Like when one of my friends tells about doing something deliciously awesome and maybe cruel, at the very least not very nice, to someone, I'll sometimes say, while laughing "Wow.. you're a bitch!" and we'll all laugh and it's fine. I would not go up to some random person and call them a bitch, though. The better you know someone, the more rude you're allowed to be to them as long as you don't really mean whatever terrible thing you're calling them.

I dont particularly care, Im an Equal Opportunity Racist, All Races suck...Fuckin ****** ass Crackers...

Oh my, The blessed Chris being reported to moderation. How unexpected.


How does my post in any way constitute an offence? Had I simply applied the same terms to your post, they would be implication be applied to you anyway.

My opinion is that even though words can be used diffently and in different contexts, the N word has a long history that is heavily linked to slavery and racism, and while someone may attempt to use it colloquially or in jest, the word still has those roots. No matter how you say a word, you can't completely defy it's meaning.

Of course not. Calling my friend '******' and having him call me all sorts of derogatory terms in return, in no way alters the historical meaning of those slurs. But we can mock. It takes on a particular meaning among friends. My friends joke that they're going to present me with a gift of blankets when I graduate. If you don't get the reference, they're alluding to the 'gift' of blankets to my ancestors that purportedly were deliberately exposed to smallpox victims. Somehow though, it's freaking hilarious when they say it. Why? Because I know them well enough to be certain that they aren't racist.

I never say it, and I tend to tell off anyone who says it around me.

Fair enough, and in many situations it would probably be warranted.

I had a classmate pull me aside one day and ask if I wanted him to report another classmate to the Dean. I was completely mystified as to why. Apparently he overhead the other classmate calling me a dirty Indian. I nearly choked, I was laughing so hard. I said, no it's okay...and wow, good thing you didn't hear what I said to her!

I've been on the receiving end of intended slurs, and it's chilling, I have to say. There is something so...evil in it. I can't explain it better than that. It's one thing to know that someone doesn't like you. That's fine. It's quite another to know that they're looking at you, making all these negative assumptions about you, and disliking you enough to call you something that to them, encapsulates all that you are, which is completely negative. I would never put up with someone saying these things to me in seriousness...or even in a joking manner if I wasn't comfortable with them, and if I didn't know them fairly well. Nor have I ever refrained from intervening when someone was being spoken to in that manner.

So I don't fault the guy who was genuinely worried for me, and because he didn't push it, and didn't try to convince me that I should be offended when there was no reason for me to be, it was fine.

I believe that because of the history and circumstances surrounding the n-word, I don't believe that anyone (black or white) should use that word. I feel that the same thing should apply to any racial slur (regardless of which race is targeted by it).

I also consider it to be hypocritical when black people condemn non-black people for using the n-word, yet say nothing when black people use the n-word.

I also consider it to be hypocritical when black people condemn non-black people for using the n-word, yet say nothing when black people use the n-word.

That's because you are either incapable, or willfully ignoring that little thing called 'context'.

You have absolutely no right to get pissed at me for allowing my friends to use racial slurs when speaking to me simply because I would bite your head off for the same.

A trite and slangy word. It is what stupid people use, as they lack a decent vocabulary.



Mum: "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to run up to black people and yell 'niggers!', then run away really fast?"

Me: "Why?"

Mum: "'Cause we're oppressed."

Me: "Indeed! I fully recommend we drive around Jewish people with swastikas on our car, shouting 'heil Hitler!'"

Mum: "That's a little different...."

Me: "Not really."

Of course not. Calling my friend '******' and having him call me all sorts of derogatory terms in return, in no way alters the historical meaning of those slurs. But we can mock. It takes on a particular meaning among friends. My friends joke that they're going to present me with a gift of blankets when I graduate. If you don't get the reference, they're alluding to the 'gift' of blankets to my ancestors that purportedly were deliberately exposed to smallpox victims. Somehow though, it's freaking hilarious when they say it. Why? Because I know them well enough to be certain that they aren't racist.

Fair enough, and in many situations it would probably be warranted.

I had a classmate pull me aside one day and ask if I wanted him to report another classmate to the Dean. I was completely mystified as to why. Apparently he overhead the other classmate calling me a dirty Indian. I nearly choked, I was laughing so hard. I said, no it's okay...and wow, good thing you didn't hear what I said to her!

I've been on the receiving end of intended slurs, and it's chilling, I have to say. There is something so...evil in it. I can't explain it better than that. It's one thing to know that someone doesn't like you. That's fine. It's quite another to know that they're looking at you, making all these negative assumptions about you, and disliking you enough to call you something that to them, encapsulates all that you are, which is completely negative. I would never put up with someone saying these things to me in seriousness...or even in a joking manner if I wasn't comfortable with them, and if I didn't know them fairly well. Nor have I ever refrained from intervening when someone was being spoken to in that manner.

So I don't fault the guy who was genuinely worried for me, and because he didn't push it, and didn't try to convince me that I should be offended when there was no reason for me to be, it was fine.

Meh, as much as I appreciate your opinion, I personally just don't really like using words like that as jokes, and I probably would have been like the guy who was worried for you. I wouldn't try to convince someone they should be offended if it was just in jest, but, for example, an Indian friend of mine had a friend who used to make comments like "I'm scared of black tits", and "I bet your pussy's black. Yuck" etc. While he wasn't trying to be hurtful, persay, I straight out said to her that I would be offended by that.

I believe that because of the history and circumstances surrounding the n-word, I don't believe that anyone (black or white) should use that word. I feel that the same thing should apply to any racial slur (regardless of which race is targeted by it).

I also consider it to be hypocritical when black people condemn non-black people for using the n-word, yet say nothing when black people use the n-word.

1. Agreed.

2. I know everyone makes this comment, but I think people think it's more common than it is (but it might be different where you come from).

A trite and slangy word. It is what stupid people use, as they lack a decent vocabulary.



Mum: "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to run up to black people and yell 'niggers!', then run away really fast?"

Me: "Why?"

Mum: "'Cause we're oppressed."

Me: "Indeed! I fully recommend we drive around Jewish people with swastikas on our car, shouting 'heil Hitler!'"

Mum: "That's a little different...."

Me: "Not really."

LOL - maybe your mum is the cause of your fucked-up-ness. ;)

Seriously, what a thing to say...

LOL - maybe your mum is the cause of your fucked-up-ness. ;)

I would never blame her for that! Besides, I am blessed with patches of sanity that she does not possess.

Seriously, what a thing to say...

She also believes Mexicans are genetically unintelligent (as are blacks :rolleyes:). I told her she was racist.

Mum: "No, because I don't believe they're inferior races. They make-up for it. Like, Mexicans can make good pottery. And white people are boring."

Me:"I am...boring?"

Mum: "Er, no--"

Me: "You just said I was genetically boring!"


I will not even start on her views of the sexes....

As for my father:

"I do not hate black people; I just hate black behavior."

"We need to move to somewhere where there are no black people."

"I can kind of understand the Saudi point of view [about not letting women drive cars]. If you give a women cars they go on a power trip."

Meh, as much as I appreciate your opinion, I personally just don't really like using words like that as jokes, and I probably would have been like the guy who was worried for you. I wouldn't try to convince someone they should be offended if it was just in jest, but, for example, an Indian friend of mine had a friend who used to make comments like "I'm scared of black tits", and "I bet your pussy's black. Yuck" etc. While he wasn't trying to be hurtful, persay, I straight out said to her that I would be offended by that.
That's....just weird. A friend making disparing comments about my body would quickly become an unfriend, regardless of racist terms.

I think it's definitely a personal thing. You should hear the way people in my family talk to one another! We tease like crazy, and to outsiders, might seem incredibly mean to one another, though it isn't at all like that. So if you're someone who doesn't really want to engage in that sort of thing, those perjorative terms will simply be perjorative, regardless of the context, and I can respect that. I'm fairly good at censoring myself in RL :P

A group of people that annoy you. A: N_ggers.

Yes, the correct answer is Naggers

I was waiting for someone to say that.

I don't mind black people using it.

:p lol
do you also wave guns around at the other guy?

Erm, no, I use it like ". . . ignorance overwhelms the mind of an otherwise logical Negro man, causing him to act in an illogical, self-destructive manner—i.e. like a ******." :|

Attention plx.