NationStates Jolt Archive


Which Side would you Choose in the coldWar

Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:38
Just Asking in the Cold War Who Would you Pick?
the Free Communities
23-04-2008, 16:42
I'd have to say the West. In the end they succeeded. Also, my school has a lot of socialist views which I can't stand.
Philosopy
23-04-2008, 16:44
Wow, America was part of NATO?

I had no idea.

Truly, you have done a great service here today.
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:45
hmm you Sound sarcastic..... DIE! :mp5:
Evilscotsman
23-04-2008, 16:46
i would only support NATO because i think communism has its advantages but not good enough for me to support it, even though i am anti-europe
Nanatsu no Tsuki
23-04-2008, 16:46
The Far East. Just on a whim.
Veblenia
23-04-2008, 16:47
The poles. As opposed to the Poles.
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:47
i Voted for SovietUnion and Allies the Middle east and North Africa (P.S. i Allowed Multiple Choose)
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:48
the Poles where Allied with Soviet Union A.K.A. U.S.S.R.
Hachihyaku
23-04-2008, 16:52
My own side, obv.
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:53
Poland,East Germany,Romania,Bulgaria,Albania,Yugoslavia,Hungary,and Czechoslavakia Which Back Then was a United Czech Republic and Slovakia are Part of AZllies od Soviet Union Back Then Russia was thre Soviet Union and they Directly Controled...Tajikistan,Krgyghstan,Kazachstan,Uzbeckistein,Turkmenstein, Armeria,Georgia(The Country),Azerabjastan,Ukraine,Moldava,Belarus,Lithuania,Latvia,and Estonia There for thoose who wanted to Pick Thoose
The South Islands
23-04-2008, 16:54
Mars.
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:55
LOL the South Islands!
Lord Scharrer
23-04-2008, 16:55
Poland,East Germany,Romania,Bulgaria,Albania,Yugoslavia,Hungary,and Czechoslavakia Which Back Then was a United Czech Republic and Slovakia are Part of AZllies od Soviet Union Back Then Russia was thre Soviet Union and they Directly Controled...Tajikistan,Krgyghstan,Kazachstan,Uzbeckistein,Turkmenstein, Armeria,Georgia(The Country),Azerabjastan,Ukraine,Moldava,Belarus,Lithuania,Latvia,and Estonia There for thoose who wanted to Pick Thoose

Wow. That just made my eyes bleed.
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:56
LOL i Added Two Far Easts!
Miyager
23-04-2008, 16:57
Wow. That just made my eyes bleed. well i hope somone Listened!
Miyager
23-04-2008, 17:00
Members of NATO:Portugal,Spain,Great britan,West Germany,Norway,Denmark,The Netherlands,Belgium,Luxembuorg,France,Italy,Greece,Canada,America,And Turkey
Knights of Liberty
23-04-2008, 17:30
NATO. The side that won.


Its easy to pick when you know how it ends.
Mad hatters in jeans
23-04-2008, 17:33
NATO. The side that won.


Its easy to pick when you know how it ends.

But does the end justify the means?
Knights of Liberty
23-04-2008, 17:35
But does the end justify the means?

A world where Nato won is probably far more pleasent than a world were the Soviets won.
Dododecapod
23-04-2008, 17:35
But does the end justify the means?

No, but when you're talking in the past tense, changing the situation becomes difficult...
Mad hatters in jeans
23-04-2008, 17:40
No, but when you're talking in the past tense, changing the situation becomes difficult...
The end has no influence on how you do something? I'm sure there's some things where it does justify the means.
i'm not sure what you mean by "changing the situation becomes difficult", a little help here?
A world where Nato won is probably far more pleasent than a world were the Soviets won.

perhaps it is, we won't know for sure though.
Silver Star HQ
23-04-2008, 17:42
The end has no influence on how you do something? I'm sure there's some things where it does justify the means.
i'm not sure what you mean by "changing the situation becomes difficult", a little help here?


perhaps it is, we won't know for sure though.

We can compare life in NATO members to life in the USSR. I'll take NATO, thank you very much.
Dododecapod
23-04-2008, 17:43
The end has no influence on how you do something? I'm sure there's some things where it does justify the means.
i'm not sure what you mean by "changing the situation becomes difficult", a little help here?


Simply, when you're talking about something that already happened, justification doesn't really matter any more - it happened, and nothing can change that.
Laerod
23-04-2008, 17:43
The poles. As opposed to the Poles.They were a side?
Hachihyaku
23-04-2008, 17:45
A world where Nato won is probably far more pleasent than a world were the Soviets won.

A world where neither existed would be a more pleasant one.
Newer Burmecia
23-04-2008, 17:45
i would only support NATO because i think communism has its advantages but not good enough for me to support it, even though i am anti-europe
This makes my brain hurt.
Mad hatters in jeans
23-04-2008, 17:47
Simply, when you're talking about something that already happened, justification doesn't really matter any more - it happened, and nothing can change that.

so what happens in a court case then?
They deal with past crimes all the time.
sure i'm talking about a smaller affair, but is it not better to know that which side was the right side by the very means used than the apparent useful outcome?
Mad hatters in jeans
23-04-2008, 17:47
This makes my brain hurt.

oh it makes sense, in a roundabout way.
Veblenia
23-04-2008, 17:53
They were a side?

Well the poles (North and South, ie: The Arctic and Antarctica) were a poll option. Eh.....nevermind. My poor attempt at humor.
Dododecapod
23-04-2008, 17:56
so what happens in a court case then?
They deal with past crimes all the time.
sure i'm talking about a smaller affair, but is it not better to know that which side was the right side by the very means used than the apparent useful outcome?

A court case, fundamentally, does not seek to justify or not to justify an act - rather it determines if an act violated a statute. By strict application, law cares not for the reason for a crime, but only that it was comitted.

Of course, being human and accepting that law is not and should not be an absolute, we do take into account circumstances and justifications. But only as a part of deciding appropriate punishment or leniancy due the law-breaker.
Laerod
23-04-2008, 17:57
Well the poles (North and South, ie: The Arctic and Antarctica) were a poll option. Eh.....nevermind. My poor attempt at humor.No, I got that. It's just that they seemed divvied up between NATO and Warsaw Pact countries for the most part.
greed and death
23-04-2008, 18:26
NATO.

The right of private property shall not be infringed.
Abju
23-04-2008, 18:44
Middle East, if you going to be fight, at might as well be 1) over something worthwile and 2) alongside people you don't loathe quite as much as everyone else.
Geniasis
23-04-2008, 22:29
Wow, America was part of NATO?

I had no idea.

Truly, you have done a great service here today.

I'm not buying it. Probably just part of his liberal Jew agenda to unionize the working class and turn them into gay communist Muslims.

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Conserative Morality
23-04-2008, 22:42
NATO because I'm anti-Communist.
Mirkana
23-04-2008, 22:53
NATO allied with the Mideast allied with the Arctic & Antarctic.

Polar Bear Marines armed with Uzis - beat THAT!
Vetalia
23-04-2008, 22:55
Depends. My family came from what would have comprised East Germany and part of Poland, so chances are if we had never emigrated I'd be behind the Iron Curtain. I imagine I'd also be at least somewhat sympathetic to Communism, at least until the Prague Spring or thereabouts.

That being said, I'm pretty sure I would have had no intention of crossing over to the Eastern Bloc at any time.
Skalvia
23-04-2008, 22:55
Yes the perfect time for Skalvia to Annex the Poles....
Brutland and Norden
23-04-2008, 22:56
Mirkana
This message has been deleted by Mirkana. Reason: Double post - damn commies!
No, it's just me. *blesses Mirkana again* :D
Ra and
24-04-2008, 00:28
I would support the Soviet Union, just for the lulz.
New Manvir
24-04-2008, 00:34
Protoss.
Andaras
24-04-2008, 01:06
I support the side of Albania, and they were on their own side, against both Western bourgeois imperialism and Soviet/Chinese revisionism.
New Manvir
24-04-2008, 03:51
I support the side of Albania, and they were on their own side, against both Western bourgeois imperialism and Soviet/Chinese revisionism.

I thought you'd support these guys (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=BLi_m656tQQ)...

Whatever, my side kicks your side's ass.
Vetalia
24-04-2008, 03:56
I thought you'd support these guys (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=BLi_m656tQQ)...

Whatever, my side kicks your side's ass.

No, Albania was the hard-core Stalinist country of its time...kind of like North Korea 1.0; they were also dirt poor, backward, and an all-around embarrassment to the rest of the Communist world. I mean, they made the rest of Eastern Europe look like a comparative utopia.
Soheran
24-04-2008, 04:00
The brave people who stood for democracy and justice against the imperialist blocs, whichever flag was waved and whichever version of class oppression was propagated.
Whatwhatia
24-04-2008, 07:20
Go NATO!
greed and death
24-04-2008, 07:23
i was thinking if you going to call the Warsaw pact Soviet Union and allies.

You should call NATO USA and allies.
Honsria
24-04-2008, 07:29
The arctic would totally rape the competition in the cold war! I mean, come on!
Andaras
24-04-2008, 09:33
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Flag_of_Albania_1946.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Ppshsymbol1981.png

Long live Marx!
Long live Lenin!
Long live Stalin!
Long live Hoxha!

Long live Marxism-Leninism!
Risottia
24-04-2008, 10:03
Just Asking in the Cold War Who Would you Pick?

Warsaw Pact/ComEcon. If managed better (even within a socialist frame: I'm thinking of a Gorby-style perestrojka, or a human-face socialism a la Dubc'ek, instead of the façade "destalinisation" carried by Khrus'c'ëv) the potential is awesome.