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So today is St Georges day, I for one didn't know about it until today, and my first thought was, meh.

I have never known us English to celebrate today, not in my 40 years of existance. I wonder why, are we just an unpatriotic bunch?

I was in a shop buying a birthday card on Monday and I noticed they had a whole display of St George's Day card - when the hell did that start?

So today is St Georges day, I for one didn't know about it until today, and my first thought was, meh.

I have never known us English to celebrate today, not in my 40 years of existance. I wonder why, are we just an unpatriotic bunch?


In Sheffield they had some morris dancing and some sword dancing under some giants over the weekend to celebrate "more or less St George's day" :)

Which was fairly cool. Though the lord mayor was there and he looked as if he would rather be anywhere else.


I don't think it is lack of patriotism. I'm not sure if there was ever much of a tradition. And of course nowadays the day, the flag and the livery have largely been allowed to be co-opted by the far right. Which probably increases the uncomfortableness.


Though I find it interesting that our PM has ordered the George cross to be flown.

It doesn't have a large enough association with alcohol.

Plus the past hijacking of it by the nationalists (who were fine with having a patron saint from Turkey(?) )

huh? i missed it, not that i care much

huh? i missed it, not that i care much

I think that is the prevalent attitude, heh but Paddys day comes around and we all turn plastic....

I was wondering what was up with all the flags actually :p

actually every pub in England must have a deal on right now...and I'm broke

We've got the wrong patron saint. We should pick one who actually has a bit of relevance to this country.

We've got the wrong patron saint. We should pick one who actually has a bit of relevance to this country.

Umm yeah I'm gonna vote for St Dodd, no wait he is still alive. Umm okay okay St Hull!

I think that is the prevalent attitude, heh but Paddys day comes around and we all turn plastic....

well i sorta miss that one too http://media.funsmileys.com/smileys/embarrassed015.gif

i guess i don't see the point in celebrating patron saints considering i quite dislike the church, i'm an athiest, and i'm hardly patriotic.... and i don't drink any more....

So today is St Georges day, I for one didn't know about it until today, and my first thought was, meh.

I have never known us English to celebrate today, not in my 40 years of existance. I wonder why, are we just an unpatriotic bunch?
Well, there's always Reckless Youth (http://recklessyouth.comicgenesis.com/d/20070423.html), though the guy missed this year. I shall do my civic duty as a descendant of Welsh immigrants and remind him...

Umm yeah I'm gonna vote for St Dodd, no wait he is still alive. Umm okay okay St Hull!

You could always try St. Alban.

St. George, lizard slayer. They had rather liberal definitions of dragons in those days. No multi-ton flaming scaled monster, instead something the size of a small dog.

well i sorta miss that one too http://media.funsmileys.com/smileys/embarrassed015.gif

i guess i don't see the point in celebrating patron saints considering i quite dislike the church, i'm an athiest, and i'm hardly patriotic.... and i don't drink any more....

You're not missing much. It's just another excuse for chavs to get wasted.

You're not missing much. It's just another excuse for chavs to get wasted.

:eek: I'm a chav?

I've never really celebrated it. I mean, who cares about some guy a few centuries ago doing rather little that's relevant to us now?

I'd rather celebrate the birthday of the person who invented the Biro: William Shakespeare.

:eek: I'm a chav?

Well, not *just* chavs.

Do you own a fake Burberry cap? Do you wear it at a 'jaunty' angle?

Though I find it interesting that our PM has ordered the George cross to be flown.

To be more precise he has ordered that on Saints days for England, Scotland and Wales that on government buildings with two flag poles fly the relevant national flag as well as the Union Jack. An important distinction I feel.

Personally I feel why not? I don't think that it's something we *must* do. But there's nothing wrong with it and it could be nice to build some associations with the English flag other than football and the BNP.

Although, it does involve Morris dancing and I'm not certain that should be encouraged.

So today is St Georges day, I for one didn't know about it until today, and my first thought was, meh.

I have never known us English to celebrate today, not in my 40 years of existance. I wonder why, are we just an unpatriotic bunch?

All the other constituent countries have holidays for there respective saints except for us English ... Disappointing really.

:eek: I'm a chav?

Ewww chav!

:eek: I'm a chav?

Heh if the burrbery cap fits....

Dragon Slaying day? You guys have the coolest holidays...

Didn't even notice.

Didn't even notice.

same here, but then again i'm north of the border.
I just had a terrible day, involving hospital, but it got better after that. slightly.
what about yourself?

Umm yeah I'm gonna vote for St Dodd, no wait he is still alive. Umm okay okay St Hull!

St Sutch?

St Sutch?

Ahhh yes, that gets my vote. We could all don top hats for the day!

Ahhh yes, that gets my vote. We could all don top hats for the day!

Toppo! :)

Although, it does involve Morris dancing and I'm not certain that should be encouraged.

I just looked that up. My god. The horror. The horror of it all...

*shutters*

I just looked that up. My god. The horror. The horror of it all...

*shutters*

Hey don't knock the Morris men. I think any cultural dance that is really all about umm sex can't be too bad.

St Georges day - Pah. my Patron saint is Saint Pirran and we do celebrate that in Cornwall!

Hey don't knock the Morris men. I think any cultural dance that is really all about umm sex can't be too bad.You are aware that to many women, any dance is about sex?

St Georges day - Pah. my Patron saint is Saint Pirran and we do celebrate that in Cornwall!

Ahhh but you all talk funny thataway don'tcha!:D

Ahhh but you all talk funny thataway don'tcha!:D

Ah, watching Truro play at wembley was fun. The night before, a load of us had gone up on a coach and stayed on the Heathrow strip at a rather nice hotel (Heathrow side, right infront of one of the runways and not a travel lodge type thing.)

We went to a nearby pub and the women were loving our accents. Its good to be cornish but remember, we do not sound like The Wurzzles down here, thats Sommerset (like the guy on timeteam!)

Its good to be cornish but remember, we do not sound like The Wurzzles down here, thats Sommerset (like the guy on timeteam!)
Phil!

Ahh, Time Team. My favourite show about making a mockery of archaeology.

To be more precise he has ordered that on Saints days for England, Scotland and Wales that on government buildings with two flag poles fly the relevant national flag as well as the Union Jack. An important distinction I feel.

Really? I only caught a glipse (want a better word) of it on the radio this morning.

Personally I feel why not? I don't think that it's something we *must* do. But there's nothing wrong with it and it could be nice to build some associations with the English flag other than football and the BNP.

If only because celebrating is nice.

Although, it does involve Morris dancing and I'm not certain that should be encouraged.

Bah. Nowt wrong with that.

I know someone who does morris dancing. Amazingly it has helped him pick up girls in clubs :confused:

Hey don't knock the Morris men. I think any cultural dance that is really all about umm sex can't be too bad.

I'm always amazed that right groups, who are supposedly about promoting English culture haven't made in roads into those old folk traditions.

I say suprised. I'm happy they haven't

Really? I only caught a glipse (want a better word) of it on the radio this morning.

If only because celebrating is nice.

Bah. Nowt wrong with that.

I know someone who does morris dancing. Amazingly it has helped him pick up girls in clubs :confused:

I'm always amazed that right groups, who are supposedly about promoting English culture haven't made in roads into those old folk traditions.

I say suprised. I'm happy they haven't

what the hell? how is this possible?

I have never known us English to celebrate today, not in my 40 years of existance. I wonder why, are we just an unpatriotic bunch?

We don't get the day off work, for a start!

Brits make me laugh.

Ich bin Duetsch! Und Englisch! Und ein Schwob!

time to go back to St Edmund the Martyr as our patron saint

what the hell? how is this possible?

Well, he has a mate who is also a morris man.

They've happened to be in a club with their hankies. Did a little morris dance. Apparently some girls were appreciative

And I suppose one thing led to another

So today is St Georges day, I for one didn't know about it until today, and my first thought was, meh.

I have never known us English to celebrate today, not in my 40 years of existance. I wonder why, are we just an unpatriotic bunch?

You're just stupid:D even i know of St Georges day and i'm no where near pomland.:p

Ich bin Duetsch! Und Englisch! Und ein Schwob!

Mein Gott! Ich bin Ubermenske (did i spell that right?)

Mein Gott! Ich bin Ubermenske (did i spell that right?)No.

You're just stupid:D even i know of St Georges day and i'm no where near pomland.:p

Heh and you can't read. Of course I know of St Georges day, I bloody started the thread, I asked why don't we celebrate it.

I always thought that Saint Georges Day was something that was recognized in England, not as much as bigger days such as Guy Fawkes Day, but something which people might remember or wear something on their jacket, like the anniversary of the Battle of Agincourt (but I suppose you don't celebrate that either).


As for another saint to become the Patron Saint of England why St Albans is a good idea why not Richard the Lionheart?

Hey don't knock the Morris men. I think any cultural dance that is really all about umm sex can't be too bad.

I am convinced that no man has ever got laid because he was a Morris Dancer.

Phil!

Ahh, Time Team. My favourite show about making a mockery of archaeology.

And here we are in 1921 at The Valley of The Kings. We understand that there was a significant culture here and we 5 days to excavate and document the site.

Argh!

I always thought that Saint Georges Day was something that was recognized in England, not as much as bigger days such as Guy Fawkes Day, but something which people might remember or wear something on their jacket, like the anniversary of the Battle of Agincourt (but I suppose you don't celebrate that either).


As for another saint to become the Patron Saint of England why St Albans is a good idea why not Richard the Lionheart?

Pah, the king who was never here?

I am convinced that no man has ever got laid because he was a Morris Dancer.

Heh don't know many Morris Men then huh.

The only Saint for me would be Roger Moore.

Heh don't know many Morris Men then huh.

If short beardy men who wave a hankie about to some bad accordion music get groupies there is no justice in the world.

If short beardy men who wave a hankie about to some bad accordion music get groupies there is no justice in the world.

You sir have proved you know nothing of morris dancing by taking the traditional ways and not being able to compute that times have changed!

You sir have proved you know nothing of morris dancing by taking the traditional ways and not being able to compute that times have changed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Morris.dancing.at.wells.arp.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StompMorrisdance.jpg

You're right - they are sex on legs. Not.

And here we are in 1921 at The Valley of The Kings. We understand that there was a significant culture here and we 5 days to excavate and document the site.

Argh!
Yeah, but (and this is weird coming from someone who loves and respects archaeology) there’s something about the sight of Tony Robinson bounding about a field, waving his arms madly as he describes what little evidence of anything the team have found that weekend, that warms the cockles of me heart.

Yeah, but (and this is weird coming from someone who loves, and respects, archaeology) there’s something about the sight of Tony Robinson bounding about a field, waving his arms madly as he describes what little evidence of anything the team have found that weekend, that warms the cockles of me heart.

Yeah...reminds me of Baldrick ;)

I am convinced that no man has ever got laid because he was a Morris Dancer.

Ahem. See my post above that has (admittedly anecdotal) evidence of two morris men pulling in a club ;)

Ahem. See my post above that has (admittedly anecdotal) evidence of two morris men pulling in a club ;)

You are destroying my world view. I hope you are happy :(

Yeah...reminds me of Baldrick ;)
I suppose so; it’s also the undeniable passion he’s got for the subject matter.

And to give credit where it’s due, Time Team will often get access to sites where the National Trust/Historic Scotland don’t have permission and/or the funds to investigate. Plus, the digs are usually handed over to ‘proper’ archaeologists once the show is over.

Ahem. See my post above that has (admittedly anecdotal) evidence of two morris men pulling in a club ;)

...I bet they had chloroform on their hankies...

...I bet they had chloroform on their hankies...

... I never thought of that...


Don't worry questions will be asked...

I suppose so; it’s also the undeniable passion he’s got for the subject matter.

And to give credit where it’s due, Time Team will often get access to sites where the National Trust/Historic Scotland don’t have permission and/or the funds to investigate. Plus, the digs are usually handed over to ‘proper’ archaeologists once the show is over.

I guess I meant his enthusiasm was Baldrickesque..in that he very much loves bounding hither and tither but drops some of the classiest clangers...especially in the early days of the show.

All in all its kudos to C4 for doing it...if it helps get people interested in history and archeology then I don't think it can argued against.

The only Saint for me would be Roger Moore.

Good man. :)

I was wondering what was up with all the flags actually :p

actually every pub in England must have a deal on right now...and I'm broke

Better than a self-imposed week long stint of temperence. I'm not sure what was worse, having an epic hangover, or the reality of a sobre night out this friday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Morris.dancing.at.wells.arp.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StompMorrisdance.jpg

You're right - they are sex on legs. Not.

Heh so three bearded men there then!

Yeah, but (and this is weird coming from someone who loves and respects archaeology) there’s something about the sight of Tony Robinson bounding about a field, waving his arms madly as he describes what little evidence of anything the team have found that weekend, that warms the cockles of me heart.

He went to my old school!

Good man. :)
Val Kilmer did a decent Saint as well, though.

St. George, lizard slayer. They had rather liberal definitions of dragons in those days. No multi-ton flaming scaled monster, instead something the size of a small dog.
You might want to qualify small dogs because there are small dogs then there are tiny little bastards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Morris.dancing.at.wells.arp.jpg

That one is awesome. The front two look drunk, the middle two look like they arn't sure what they are doing, and the back two appear to have no idea how they got there.

And here we are in 1921 at The Valley of The Kings. We understand that there was a significant culture here and we 5 days to excavate and document the site.

Argh!

I find myself in two minds concerning Time Team. I agree that academically, it makes a mockery of genuine archaeology whilst invariably accomplishing little in the time allotted, however, the genuine, sincere enthusiasm with which they conduct digs and report finds is warming. More so given the trend towards functionality in education, and the concomitant disdain for genuine academic interest.

Equally, I still think Tony Robinson should be sent to a Thatcherite "re-education" camp....:D

thoughtful of these gents to bring my scalie friends lunch in a tin.

=^^=
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I guess I meant his enthusiasm was Baldrickesque..in that he very much loves bounding hither and tither but drops some of the classiest clangers...especially in the early days of the show.
Back when he had hair!

All in all its kudos to C4 for doing it...if it helps get people interested in history and archeology then I don’t think it can argued against.
Here, here.

He went to my old school!
Kudos!

Equally, I still think Tony Robinson should be sent to a Thatcherite “re-education” camp....:D
Och, leave him alone! :p