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Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

i vote allecto

So long as she's a Republican, why not? :p

Yes, why wouldn´t I be?

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

Absolutely. In fact, to be honest, I'd kinda in a way prefer one, because I really like strong female leaders.

However, said person has to be someone I could support politically as well, and I can't do that for Senator Clinton.

Any woman? I don't like some women. I don't really see how I have a choice (really) as to who is elected. I don't have a problem with the idea of having a woman as commander in chief, but I would rather it be someone I agree with (same as with men).

Yes, why wouldn´t I be?

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

Yes I would be. Just not this candidate.

EDIT: Even if there would be an effect on our world prestige with certain less socially progressive states, they'd still have to contend with our diplomatic, economic and military power. Really, for anyone with a brain, this wouldn't affect their opinion of the US at all.

I would be, but then again Hillary is not a woman. I'm not okay with her.

Absolutely, but not this one.

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

Which is none sense, because some men act the same way as women are considered to be in the face of threats. (not attacking your post, btw)

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

Eh. That's a stereotype, and while there are (of course) people who will buy into that and vote down a female candidate, I'd guess they're a small number. Besides, we already have female leaders all over the place - if they were inherently bad leaders, we'd know that already. They're generally fine leaders, if we're making generalizations, beyond the few bad apples - if I generalized based on Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi, for example, then I'd never vote for a woman, but that wouldn't be fair. ;)

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

:p tell that to my husband.

Eh. That's a stereotype, and while there are (of course) people who will buy into that and vote down a female candidate, I'd guess they're a small number. Besides, we already have female leaders all over the place - if they were inherently bad leaders, we'd know that already. If I generalized based on Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi, for example, then I'd never vote for a woman, but that wouldn't be fair. ;)

The problem really wouldn't be the American populace, but the governments of nations around the world, who are the more important players in the president's job.

:p tell that to my husband.

Hey! Smunkee's husband!
Women are weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.
;)

The problem really wouldn't be the American populace, but the governments of nations around the world, who are the more important players in the president's job.

You don't think foreign leaders would want to play ball with a female president? :p Maybe some of the more theocratic ones, I could imagine, but not the ones that matter.

Id be okay with a Woman as President, id treat it like all Politicians, im okay with them if they are doing a Good job, imo...

Although, i would be worried around that Time of the Month, lol:p

You don't think foreign leaders would want to play ball with a female president? :p Maybe some of the more theocratic ones, I could imagine, but not the ones that matter.

Are you honestly implying that other countries won´t take the US seriously just because Hilary´s the president? (hypothetical situation)

Been there, done that.

Who the fuck said no?

While I adamantly do not want to see HRC in the White House, I'd love to see the US have a female president.

Frankly, it's down right embarassing to me that we haven't yet. :(

For Dog's sake, even the Muslim world, with it's image of female reppression, has produced several female heads of government - Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, and Bangladesh. :eek:

Yes, as long as it is not HRC.

I'm not a raving, chauvinistic lunatic, so I have no objections to a female president.

Who the fuck said no?

Damn these non-public polls! :p

Are you honestly implying that other countries won´t take the US seriously just because Hilary´s the president? (hypothetical situation)

No. That's what I was asking him. ;)

Damn these non-public polls! :p

I know. However, I have a feeling its for the best, as voting no would instantly earn you a place on my "Idiots whos opinions arent valid" list;)

No. That's what I was asking him. ;)

Ah, ok. Sorry, high dosage of Dolorex in the body do weird things to you.:p

I know. However, I have a feeling its for the best, as voting no would instantly earn you a place on my "Idiots whos opinions arent valid" list;)

But wouldn't that lead to a higher posting-efficiency, -throughput, -etc?

But wouldn't that lead to a higher posting-efficiency, -throughput, -etc?

Im mean enough to people here as it is.:p

Im mean enough to people here as it is.:p

Nahhhh.

Woah, my head´s spinning. Why the f*ck do I care about Hillary? I don´t even live in the US.:p

Yes, but not if it's Hillary.

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

No. Women should stay in the kitchen where they belong.

JUST KIDDING! :P

No. Women should stay in the kitchen where they belong.

JUST KIDDING! :P

Chauvinistic Swine!!

I KIDD I KIDD!!

Chauvinistic Swine!!

I KIDD I KIDD!!

Hey! Who let you out of the kitchen?!?

No. Women should stay in the kitchen where they belong.

JUST KIDDING! :P

Why'd you add the just kidding? It's truth that women belong not on the internet, but in the kitchen making me a sandwich or on the bed helping extend the human race.

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

Depends on whether she was going through menopause or not.

*runs for cover*

Hey! Who let you out of the kitchen?!?

You did, piggy.

I think it would be a big step foward for America, seeing as social progress in the US has been retarded for decades now by the rapid right-wing establishment.

You did, piggy.

Oh. Nevermind then...

Oh. Nevermind then...

:D
Okie day.

I would be, but then again Hillary is not a woman. I'm not okay with her.

I'm sorry, did she become a trans sexual when I wasn't looking? Having breasts and a vagina isn't enough to qualify for womanhood anymore? How about childbirth?

If you have problems with her politics, say so. Sexist insults only make you look like an asshat.

There is nothing on this earth sexier, believe me gentlemen, than a woman you have to salute in the morning.

I come from hell, my grandmother's got more attitude than you.

I would be, but then again Hillary is not a woman. I'm not okay with her.

LOL =)

Are you honestly implying that other countries won´t take the US seriously just because Hilary´s the president? (hypothetical situation)

Quite a few would have a problem with her womanhood, yes.
Of course, that is no reason to not elect her. This is one area where I encourage the USA to say "fuck you" to international opinion.

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

I'd only be okay with a woman president if she bakes cookies once a week. *nod*

The above is goofballian. Loosly translated into english it means, "What the hell kind of question is that?!?" Have a nice day. :)

Quite a few would have a problem with her womanhood, yes.
Of course, that is no reason to not elect her. This is one area where I encourage the USA to say "fuck you" to international opinion.

Those this mean that Hillary is, in reality, a man?:eek:

J/K.

Yes, but not if it's Hillary.

Someone like Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher of the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany.

Just wait for my nation's third and fourth national election results.

President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
Vice President Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
Hispanic Republic of Miami Jai-Alai.

If a capable female candidate attained the Presidency by legally acceptable means, I would not have a problem.

... Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany. ...You don't know shit. Hillary is more capable than Angela any day.

I'd only be okay with a woman president if she bakes cookies once a week. *nod*

The above is goofballian. Loosly translated into english it means, "What the hell kind of question is that?!?" Have a nice day. :)I think every president, male or female, should bake cookies once a week. That way, even if they screw up horrible people can say "well, at least (s)he made good cookies." (Unless they bake horrible cookies, but then obviously they shouldn't be elected president).
And imagine how much more fun state visits would be, if the elected head of state can offer home baked goods.

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

In your eyes...

Hey! Smunkee's husband!
Women are weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.
;)

LOL - You're going to get a virtual black eye.

Id be okay with a Woman as President, id treat it like all Politicians, im okay with them if they are doing a Good job, imo...

Although, i would be worried around that Time of the Month, lol:p

She probably doesn't have her "time of the month" any more...

Who the fuck said no?

:gundge:

I'm not a raving, chauvinistic lunatic, so I have no objections to a female president.

Good.

I'd only be okay with a woman president if she bakes cookies once a week. *nod*

The above is goofballian. Loosly translated into english it means, "What the hell kind of question is that?!?" Have a nice day. :)

She probably does, but she might be a little busy when she's president... ;)

We already have a woman president. :cool:

i can't quite believe 5 people actually said no :rolleyes:


Someone like Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher of the United Kingdom of Great Britain.

much as i loathe her politics, she was a strong leader.

I don't see what difference it makes.

I don't evaulate politicians about sex, sexual preferences, religion, culinary tastes, skin colour, hair colour, teeth whiteness, age, height...

I evaluate them about:

1.their political ideas
2.their proposals
3.their past as politicians
4.honesty
5.competence

A woman president is OK by me, just not Hillary. If she does get nominated over Obama, I'm just going to vote for McCain.

Personally, we do not need a second "Dynasty" in modern times. We have had enough trouble with the Bushes. Bush Sr. then his son, Bush Junior, who is a lame duck president. Then we have Bill Clinton between the two Bushes, then now we have his wife running for a post-Bush Dynasty presidency?

What's next? Chelsea Clinton running? Laura Bush? Jeb Bush?

Seriously, we need new blood. Thats why I prefer either Obama or McCain over any Clintons or Bushes. Think about it- if Hillary wins this election and stays president until 2012 at least, we'll have had 24 long years of exclusive Bush + Clinton presidency dynasties. Thats almost as long as I have been alive in this world.

Obama's message of "CHANGE!" holds more truth to it when you think about it.

Anyways, back to the topic, yes, if there was any decent female leader who was running for the Presidency with better qualifications, skill, determination, agenda, and reputation than her male counterparts, I would vote for her without any problem.

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

Only by backwards idiots.

I already have a woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_McAleese) as president.

Only by backwards idiots.

Iirc, Ike Eisenhower during his presidential campaign stated that he needed the votes of the less intelligent people, too. I know it's sad.

I don't evaulate politicians about sex, sexual preferences, religion, culinary tastes, skin colour, hair colour, teeth whiteness, age, height...

I evaluate them about:

1.their political ideas
2.their proposals
3.their past as politicians
4.honesty
5.competence

This

Although when Bush Senior said he "just didn't like broccoli" like a petulant five year old, my already low opinion of him fell even further.

sure. what's the problem? what's between anyone's legs has nothing to do with how big an ass hole they can be. their just prompted by their egos, in the context of their up bringing, to go about it in slightly different ways.

but they amount to the same degree of messing everything up for everyone else either way.

sorry but i really don't see gender, or race, as having anything to do with anything other then what people have gotten used to being wedged by.

been gotten used to being wedged by, by agendas that had little or nothing to do intrinsically themselves with race or gender either.

i'd rather have hillary then mccain, but neither hillary nor beccy thatcher would be my first choice for a woman to do so.

now maxine waters, SHE would make a GREAT president, if anyone with half a brain of their own, ever stood a snowflakes chance in hell of getting elected, in a politcal proccess who'se puppet strings are held by corporate economic interests.

=^^=
.../\...

Although when Bush Senior said he "just didn't like broccoli" like a petulant five year old, my already low opinion of him fell even further.
I do not like broccoli.

*watches as other's opinions of him dives*

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.Well, yeah. Gesine Schwan was just as if not more qualified to be President than Horst Köhler. But discussing whether Germany is ready for a female Federal President is so 2004, and whether Germany is ready for a female President so 1972...

The problem really wouldn't be the American populace, but the governments of nations around the world, who are the more important players in the president's job.

Why wouldn't they? The muslim world has had a number of female presidents in it's time, including a least theocratic state (Pakistan). Europe has/has had a significant number of female presidents/prime ministers and as far as I know none of them have trouble getting taken seriously for being women.

Gender, or indeed any other personal traits such as ethnicity or sexuality, should not play a role in electoral decisions. Policies and ability to lead should.

Actually, I get the sense that international opinion already disses the US for not having had a female president yet (among other things), and for having discussions based on dumbass questions like the OP.

of course not, I'm English ;)

and thus live in a Constitutional Monarchy devoid of the position of president

I'd be okay with anyone as a President as long as they aren't a conservative.

As long as people didn't vote for her just because she is a woman, i'm OK with it.

Yes, but not a psuedo-left, authoritarian right, power hungry, lying bitch like Hillary Clinton.

The problem really wouldn't be the American populace, but the governments of nations around the world, who are the more important players in the president's job.

Given that they seem to have no problem with the many female government & state leaders from Europe, i'd say that argument says more about the person uttering it, then about the nations involved.

(Edit)
IMO, the US needs a black lesbian for president.

(Edit)
IMO, the US needs a black lesbian for president.

Maybe so, but Condolezza Rice declined to run.

Only if she was a tom boy. *nod*

Tom Boys are fun, trust me. :D

We already have a woman as a president :p

I damn the US centricism here! 8)

Not that it is my concern, at all, but yes. Our best post-war PM was female(ish).

Not that it is my concern, at all, but yes. Our best post-war PM was female(ish).

lol...(ish)

No. The woman's place is in the house, tending to the children and home.

Also, I'd like my fondue served while we listen to Amos n' Andy.

i vote allecto

Alecto (Ancient Greek: Ἀληκτώ, English translation: "the implacable") is one of the Erinyes in Greek mythology. According to Hesiod, she was the daughter of Gaea fertilized by the blood spilled from Uranus when Cronus castrated him. She is the sister of Tisiphone and Megaera. Alecto is the Erinys with the job of castigating the moral crimes (such as anger), especially if they are against other people. Her function is very similar to Nemesis, with the difference that the latter's function is to castigate crimes against the gods. Alecto appeared in Virgil's Aeneid, and also in Dante's Inferno as one of the three Erinyes.


...Hmmm...

lol...(ish)

Thatcher?

No. The woman's place is in the house, tending to the children and home.

That sounds a lot like:

The woman's place is in the white house, tending to the children and homes of the nation.

Don't you agree ;) ?

In fact, one could argue that the actual jobdescription of the president is far closer to the stereotypical "caretaking" female rolemodel... not a "man's job" at all.

Thatcher?

Baronness Thatcher, if you please.

It’s a shame the question need be asked, really.

It’s a shame the question need be asked, really.

Well it doesn't does it.

Baronness Thatcher, if you please.

To me Thatcher destroyed the argument that women in power are naturally more caring and less war mongering and hateful than men in power.

I think what makes me people better or worse leaders is not their skin, gender, or genitals but their politics and also those from the majority class will generally be more representative compared to those from a minority class.

To me Thatcher destroyed the argument that women in power are naturally more caring and less war mongering and hateful than men in power.

I think what makes me people better or worse leaders is not their skin, gender, or genitals but their politics and also those from the majority class will generally be more representative compared to those from a minority class.

Representative is not necessarily to be sought. I fail to see why I should want my leader to represent the views and values of the British "silent majority"; they're all disinterested, disaffected, politically apathetic Sun reading lads and ladettes.

In any case, I have never advanced the opinion that women are intrinsically different in politics to men.

I would support a female President for the same reason I would support a black, Jewish, Latino/Latina, Asian, or American Indian President - why the hell not? However, the first of a new "kind" of President, such as the first female President, would have to be pretty impressive in order to make the future election of such a President a non-issue. They would have to be solid politically and be known for being great in at least one area. That way, if someone who is female/black/etc. runs in the future, people will remember the original such President being a solid person and leader and decide that gender/race/religion is, at the very least, a surmountable issue.

John Kennedy was a solid leader. He was also great at public speaking, which is probably the number one qualification for the Presidency and the chief reason why I think Bush is a dope. The first female/black/non-white-Christian-male President doesn't have to be as great as John Kennedy, but they do need to set the bar high enough that future candidates of their "kind" are judged by their merits as John Kerry was...to the extent that anyone running against the neocon machine can be judged by their merits...

It's so sad that this is even a question people find worthy of any sort of debate. Speaks to the general backwardness of the nations who find female leaders...controversial.

To me Thatcher destroyed the argument that women in power are naturally more caring and less war mongering and hateful than men in power. This 'argument' has always been pathetic, whether advanced by misogynists or radical feminists. In whatever manner it is destroyed, the world is better off for it.

Note, that doesn't mean that the world was better of because of Thatcher :D

This reminds me of the joke: "Why is it a good idea to have a woman as the president?"

Answer: "We would not have to pay her as much." Har!

If the person is right for the job then what does gender or even race have to do with. However, I don't think that any politican should be given an advantage due to gender or race.

Representative is not necessarily to be sought. I fail to see why I should want my leader to represent the views and values of the British "silent majority"; they're all disinterested, disaffected, politically apathetic Sun reading lads and ladettes.

Then you don't believe in democracy. You believe in institutional elitism.

This 'argument' has always been pathetic, whether advanced by misogynists or radical feminists. In whatever manner it is destroyed, the world is better off for it.

Note, that doesn't mean that the world was better of because of Thatcher :D

I absolutely agree. The "patriarchal feminists" are only radical in a head-banging-against-a-brick-wall-in-hatred-without-thinking-or-analysising-in-a-ultra-way.

They are to the right of most feminists in my opinion.

I think that the problem electing a female president for the US is less about international policy and foreign heads of state accepting it than it is about some of the voters in the US accepting it. We are still a very sexist nation in many ways.

I would gladly vote for a qualified female candidate if I were to agree with her politics, and I would judge her using the same qualifications I would use to judge any man I vote for. But I would not vote for someone only because they were a woman just like I would not vote for someone only because they were a man.

Sure, she can make the nation breakfast and help us all get ready for work and school.

Yes, but not a psuedo-left, authoritarian right, power hungry, lying bitch like Hillary Clinton.

And once again, let's try to criticize Sen. Clintion for her poliy and her politics, not compare her to a female dog.

Baronness Thatcher, if you please.

Landed or Court?

Sure, she can make the nation breakfast and help us all get ready for work and school.

Exactly. Ensure nobody is hungry. Ensure people work at their jobs. Ensure kids get an education.

Excellent presidential campaign material.

Exactly. Ensure nobody is hungry. Ensure people work at their jobs. Ensure kids get an education.

Excellent presidential campaign material.

:D

and lets not forget about the laundry, dusting and PTA meetings.

:D

and lets not forget about the laundry, dusting and PTA meetings.

Cleaning up the country and improving the communities involvement in the nations future.

Yay.

Periods and menopause?

Then you don't believe in democracy. You believe in institutional elitism.

I certainly have little time for democracy, correct.

I would be quite OK. Hillary doesn't count, as she isn't a woman. She's a robot sent from the future to take over and lay the groundwork for our eventual subjugation by the robot overlords of the future.

A woman for President? Maybe, but none of the three major contenders suit me. I'll vote third party rather than the lesser of two evils.

Periods

Having a sound knowledge of and aversion to the horrors of bloodshed.
Besides - would a man show up for work if he had been bleeding significantly for 3 days ?

menopause?

Helping to reduce the problem of overpopulation.

*hugs The Alma Mater*:fluffle:

because by some women are seen as weaker, less willing to stand up to threats and generally lack the ability to lead as effectively as men.

Yes, that's why Clinton threatened to n00k Iran if it n00ked Israel.

Yes, that's why Clinton threatened to n00k Iran if it n00ked Israel.
hmph, n00bs. :sniper::mp5::gundge:

Definately YES, but not Hillary Rodham Clinton. I used to think she was an intelligent human being with honor. During this presidential campaign I have increasingly come to realize that she doesn't make much sense. There are just too many lies, and oddities going on. At first, I thought maybe she was just getting fux0red (pardon my french) by the people around her in her campaign. Now, I honestly don't care. She should not now, or ever, become president.

I'd rather the US has a rather dimwitted president (read Bush jr), than Hillary Clinton. Intelligent in a stupid way is always beaten by sheer stupidity!

I voted for a woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9gol%C3%A8ne_Royal) in the second round of the 2007 presidential election (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2007). (And for a man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_Besancenot) in the first round.) I really don't care one way or another about a candidate's gender.

A woman president? Sure, as long as she still has time to cook and clean for her husband.:D

[/joke]

*prepares himself for the lynching*

Representative is not necessarily to be sought. I fail to see why I should want my leader to represent the views and values of the British "silent majority"; they're all disinterested, disaffected, politically apathetic Sun reading lads and ladettes.


I firmly believe the so-called "silent majority" is a myth used to prop up a particular right-wing, anti-immigration political agenda. It's telling that representing the views of the disaffected "silent majority" is the sort of line generally used by parties such as the BNP and UKIP

I firmly believe the so-called "silent majority" is a myth used to prop up a particular right-wing, anti-immigration political agenda. It's telling that representing the views of the disaffected "silent majority" is the sort of line generally used by parties such as the BNP and UKIP

I have always UKIP was more the party of the disaffected Tory. It has been a while since I looked at their policies, but all the same, I do recall their being in favour of leaving the EU, which would thus impact upon immigration.

The BNP, yes, I quite agree, but UKIP? No.

I hate it when people say a woman shouldn't be president because it will make the our enemies in the middle east hate us more. Does this mean the next president should be an anti-semite also? :rolleyes:

While I don't believe in Hillary, I did support Elizabeth Dole when she gave it a go. Equal opportunity for all.

While I don't believe in Hillary, I did support Elizabeth Dole when she gave it a go. Equal opportunity for all.

I am pretty certain that there is strong evidence that Hilary exists.

I am pretty certain that there is strong evidence that Hilary exists.

No, it's all a fabrication to draw attention away from the fact that Jeb Bush is actually a cross-dressing panda... http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Smileys/nod.gif

I hate it when people say a woman shouldn't be president because it will make the our enemies in the middle east hate us more. Does this mean the next president should be an anti-semite also? :rolleyes:

Mel Gibson should run for president then *nods*

Mel Gibson should run for president then *nods*

I would vote for Tatum O´Neil if she decided to run for President since we´re talking about anti-semites and all.:D

Mel Gibson should run for president then *nods*

I am seriously surprised that he hasn't jumped on the Scientology bandwagon yet.

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

LOL. Ehem. Yes...There isn't really a reason as to not to be. I would like to see some variation within the American presidency. :D

Pics or it won't happen.

Me, for President!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/Fiestuki%20Halloween%202005/Yop_PR_12-12-2005-1.jpg

Me, for President!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/Fiestuki%20Halloween%202005/Yop_PR_12-12-2005-1.jpg

*Iz Voting*

*Iz Voting*

Thankz j00!

Me, for President!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/Fiestuki%20Halloween%202005/Yop_PR_12-12-2005-1.jpg


So you aren't a man after all!

:p

So you aren't a man after all!

:p

Yes, does that disappoints you Trolly?:)

Yes, does that disappoints you Trolly?:)

Not at all!

I am pleasantly surprised to see you are indeed a woman!

A pretty one at that! ;)

Not at all!

I am pleasantly surprised to see you are indeed a woman!

A pretty one at that! ;)

Thanks for the compliment, Trolly.;)

Anyway, I agree. We can have a woman president as long as it ain´t Miss Rodham-Clinton. We should suggest Rosanne for the position.:D

Thankz j00!
Whoa! No need to mention...those people...
Not at all!

Someone's in denial.

Whoa! No need to mention...those people...


Someone's in denial.

You´re pooping on my glorious party.:(

Me, for President!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/Fiestuki%20Halloween%202005/Yop_PR_12-12-2005-1.jpg

Only if you put me in your harem.

We should suggest Rosanne for the position.:D


I'd totally vote for her.

I hate how people say woman get overly emotional. I intentionally try to act level headed during those PMS days just so no one says that. Which is kinda funny now that I think about it, because (nothing to do with me being the proud owner of a vagina) I'm normally an emotional bipolar nutbag.

Only if you put me in your harem.

Hm... deal. You´re officially on my harem. Now, off to vote you go!

I'd totally vote for her.

I hate how people say woman get overly emotional. I intentionally try to act level headed during those PMS days just so no one says that. Which is kinda funny now that I think about it, because (nothing to do with me being the proud owner of a vagina) I'm normally an emotional bipolar nutbag.

The Rosanne thing, big no no.

I agree with the rest of your statement. We women are as capable of running a country as men.

You´re pooping on my glorious party.:(

Better to be pooped on than...er...pooped...off.

Better to be pooped on than...er...pooped...off.

Your logic is scary, mate. Very scary. Want to be my Vice-President?:D

Your logic is scary, mate. Very scary. Want to be my Vice-President?:D

I would be most thoroughly honoured.

So long as I can go hunting quail and neat things that all great VPs do.

Hm... deal. You´re officially on my harem. Now, off to vote you go!

On your harem? I wonder if you really want me there... I figure a photograph is in order.

http://a791.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/112/l_a54d8d573b19e2ad9a5a75eada84c2d6.jpg

And there it is. Though my hair is significantly longer now (bangs are chin-length). You know you want me in your harem.

Or, possibly, in your closet. Wait, that didn't sound right...

I would be most thoroughly honoured.

So long as I can go hunting quail and neat things that all great VPs do.

Very good. Then you´re the VP to my administration. And you´ll also have a credit card.

On your harem? I wonder if you really want me there... I figure a photograph is in order.

http://a791.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/112/l_a54d8d573b19e2ad9a5a75eada84c2d6.jpg

And there it is. Though my hair is significantly longer now (bangs are chin-length). You know you want me in your harem.

Or, possibly, in your closet. Wait, that didn't sound right...

Let me just say this and be off before I lose heart. You, sir, have a gorgeous face. It´s elfin in quality and those eyes... Ok... I ranted... now, I´m off to... rulez.:p

Let me just say this and be off before I lose heart. You, sir, have a gorgeous face. It´s elfin in quality and those eyes... Ok... I ranted... now, I´m off to... rulez.:p

You should hear my voice. :p

Now I shall vote for you, kind sir. Yeah, I said sir, and you're gonna have to live with that. Sorry, that's just how it goes.

Very good. Then you´re the VP to my administration. And you´ll also have a credit card.
*rubs hands together maniacally* So many lobbyists... so little time..
Let me just say this and be off before I lose heart. You, sir, have a gorgeous face. It´s elfin in quality and those eyes... Ok... I ranted... now, I´m off to... rulez.:p

He has a disproportionately oversized hand. Can you really allow such a person into your harem?

You should hear my voice. :p

Now I shall vote for you, kind sir. Yeah, I said sir, and you're gonna have to live with that. Sorry, that's just how it goes.

It can´t sound worse than my ex-boyfriend´s. He´s American and his voice has a terrible drawl to it that tended to infuriate me to no end.:p

And now I´m a sir. This world is getting weirder and weirder by the minute.

It can´t sound worse than my ex-boyfriend´s. He´s American and his voice has a terrible drawl to it that tended to infuriate me to no end.:p

And now I´m a sir. This world is getting weirder and weirder by the minute.

No drawl here dude, people mistake me for a Canadian on a daily basis.

You're both a sir and a dude, man. Oh look, there's another one!

It can´t sound worse than my ex-boyfriend´s. He´s American and his voice has a terrible drawl to it that tended to infuriate me to no end.:p

And now I´m a sir. This world is getting weirder and weirder by the minute.

What do you mean a drawl? Is he southern?

What do you mean a drawl? Is he southern?

I think I used that word the wrong way. He´s from MI, but he lived in IN for a few years before we met each other and, I don´t know, I think the IN accent got stucked on him or something. We kept having a lot of problems with understanding each other. English isn´t my first language and he knew no Spanish so...

No drawl here dude, people mistake me for a Canadian on a daily basis.

You're both a sir and a dude, man. Oh look, there's another one!

Oh, so you say ey a lot? J/K.

What do you mean a drawl? Is he southern?

I'm betting he is... My dad was born and raised in Houston back in the 1950s. Needless to say, he has a truly atrocious drawl. I'm so very glad to have spent my formative years in a tourist town full of New Englanders and Midwesterners.

I'm not a big fan of drawls, or the term "y'all"... Oh, that one gets to me. Urgh.

Oh, so you say ey a lot? J/K.

Do Canadians actually say that?

Because I do.

I think I used that word the wrong way. He´s from MI, but he lived in IN for a few years before we met each other and, I don´t know, I think the IN accent got stucked on him or something. We kept having a lot of problems with understanding each other. English isn´t my first language and he knew no Spanish so...

El no habla espanol? (I can't do the little squigly line thing above the n).

From what I've heard it seems like the rest of the world thinks we Americans talk slowly. Is this true?

Is that what you meant by drawl? Kinda dragging out some words and talking slow?

Oh, so you say ey a lot? J/K.

I say "eh", but it sounds more like "ah", unless if it's in the correct context --- then it sounds like "ey". But yeah.

It's a lot easier than saying "huh", like people tend to do in most parts of Texas. *cringe*

I'm betting he is... My dad was born and raised in Houston back in the 1950s. Needless to say, he has a truly atrocious drawl. I'm so very glad to have spent my formative years in a tourist town full of New Englanders and Midwesterners.

I'm not a big fan of drawls, or the term "y'all"... Oh, that one gets to me. Urgh.

Oh I love the drawls! (well some of them) I have a midwestern accent, with a few southern pronounciations and phrases thrown in every now and then.

I can't stand some of the new england accents though, like New York, Boston, and Maine, Jersey, etc...

Do Canadians actually say that?

Because I do.

I don´t know, but people from the MI Upper Peninsula say it a lot. And they allege is because of their proximity to Canada.

I say "eh", but it sounds more like "ah", unless if it's in the correct context --- then it sounds like "ey". But yeah.

It's a lot easier than saying "huh", like people tend to do in most parts of Texas. *cringe*

Nonsense!

I say huh a lot, as a place holder, or as a response- huh not as in 'huh, what?', more as a grunt, meaning " i understand', or 'i heard you'.

Oh I love the drawls! (well some of them) I have a midwestern accent, with a few southern pronounciations and phrases thrown in every now and then.

I can't stand some of the new england accents though, like New York, Boston, and Maine, Jersey, etc...

New York's not a part of New England, it's Mid-Atlantic Northeastern. But I'm very partial to New York accents (Alan Arkin circa Catch-22? that's a smooth voice, there).

El no habla espanol? (I can't do the little squigly line thing above the n).

From what I've heard it seems like the rest of the world thinks we Americans talk slowly. Is this true?

Is that what you meant by drawl? Kinda dragging out some words and talking slow?

No, no lo hablaba para nada.

It´s not that you talk slowly. The main problem with me is that, depending from where in the US you come from, I can follow you or not when you speak. I never had a problem conversing with MI natives. But when it came to speak with people from states like IN, WV or VA or Southern US, I´m sorry, but I get lost. Same thing happens when I speak to African-Americans. My problem is the accent.

No, no lo hablaba para nada.

It´s not that you talk slowly. The main problem with me is that, depending from where in the US you come from, I can follow you or not when you speak. I never had a problem conversing with MI natives. But when it came to speak with people from states like IN, WV or VA or Southern US, I´m sorry, but I get lost. Same thing happens when I speak to African-Americans. My problem is the accent.

huh










I got ya!

Nonsense!

I say huh a lot, as a place holder, or as a response- huh not as in 'huh, what?', more as a grunt, meaning " i understand', or 'i heard you'.

I never say "huh". It's always "ah?" or "eh?", or even the classic "what?". I'm sure a voice clip would make it easier to understand exactly why I don't take the time to enunciate "huh", as it's so inefficient.

http://media.putfile.com/Basic-Irritation

It's a clipd of me being irritated by the xenophobes that often pass through my line when I bag groceries. Egads.

No, no lo hablaba para nada.

It´s not that you talk slowly. The main problem with me is that, depending from where in the US you come from, I can follow you or not when you speak. I never had a problem conversing with MI natives. But when it came to speak with people from states like IN, WV or VA or Southern US, I´m sorry, but I get lost. Same thing happens when I speak to African-Americans. My problem is the accent.

So it's the drawl thing. Most people from Indiana don't have that particular drawl, as it's more of a rural thing. My brother-in-law is from the Indianapolis area, and he has a very fast, neutral speech pattern.

Honestly, as long as it's not Hillary. She scares me. On Pennsylvania's poll day, she threatened Iran if they decided to attack Israel with nuclear weapons, promising destruction. I don't really think that's the best way for a candidate who's been saying she has a lot of diplomacy skill to act - especially before she wins the Presidency!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7359957.stm

So it's the drawl thing. Most people from Indiana don't have that particular drawl, as it's more of a rural thing. My brother-in-law is from the Indianapolis area, and he has a very fast, neutral speech pattern.

Yeah, rural US accent. I can´t follow it. I sometimes have to ask people to repeat what they were telling me because I got lost between the 1st and the 3rd word. While I lived in MI, I had a hell of a time understanding some people over there.

Yeah, rural US accent. I can´t follow it. I sometimes have to ask people to repeat what they were telling me because I got lost between the 1st and the 3rd word. While I lived in MI, I had a hell of a time understanding some people over there.

Sounds like me when I moved away from Port Aransas (the tourist town I'm from). I got in trouble several times for asking my 1st Grade teacher to repeat herself because I couldn't understand her floaty, ethereal drawl. This place freaked me right the fuck out when I came here. Fucking hell, it was horrible.

Sounds like me when I moved away from Port Aransas (the tourist town I'm from). I got in trouble several times for asking my 1st Grade teacher to repeat herself because I couldn't understand her floaty, ethereal drawl. This place freaked me right the fuck out when I came here. Fucking hell, it was horrible.

I guess my main problem was that I came from living in Madrid and Oviedo, Asturias to live on the other side of the Atlantic in Lansing, MI. I mainly spoke Spanish and Asturian, I understood English very well but my interaction with English speakers had always been from British tourists. That was my first time living and interacting with Americans and my speaking Spanish was so limited over there. It was tough.

I never say "huh". It's always "ah?" or "eh?", or even the classic "what?". I'm sure a voice clip would make it easier to understand exactly why I don't take the time to enunciate "huh", as it's so inefficient.

http://media.putfile.com/Basic-Irritation

It's a clipd of me being irritated by the xenophobes that often pass through my line when I bag groceries. Egads.


What I do isn't the classic drawn out 'huh', it a short and rapid exhale with some vocalization. A fast huh, or sometimes a hmm.

I don't have a microphone, otherwise I would put it up.

What I do isn't the classic drawn out 'huh', it a short and rapid exhale with some vocalization. A fast huh, or sometimes a hmm.

I don't have a microphone, otherwise I would put it up.

Ah, okay, I do that one, too. I thought you were talking about enunciating it, like so many people in this area do (it can become unnerving).

I find that, for the most part, Texas accents are based on over-enunciation... Completely improper over-enunciation, which often results in a wretched drawl.

I find that, for the most part, Texas accents are based on over-enunciation... Completely improper over-enunciation, which often results in a wretched drawl.

But that makes you a great public speaker..

I guess my main problem was that I came from living in Madrid and Oviedo, Asturias to live on the other side of the Atlantic in Lansing, MI. I mainly spoke Spanish and Asturian, I understood English very well but my interaction with English speakers had always been from British tourists. That was my first time living and interacting with Americans and my speaking Spanish was so limited over there. It was tough.

I don't doubt that it was tough, especially since your only interaction with English-speaking people beforehand was with British tourists... We usually talk quite a bit faster than they do.

Well, maybe not the ones from Yorkshire. Haha.

But that makes you a great public speaker..

Theodore Roosevelt was a great public speaker.

George W. Bush is not.

See what I'm getting at?

I don't doubt that it was tough, especially since your only interaction with English-speaking people beforehand was with British tourists... We usually talk quite a bit faster than they do.

Well, maybe not the ones from Yorkshire. Haha.

Do Americans speak faster than Brits?

I've always heard that people 'round the world laughed at Americans, or maybe all English speakers, as speaking very slowly...

I don't doubt that it was tough, especially since your only interaction with English-speaking people beforehand was with British tourists... We usually talk quite a bit faster than they do.

Well, maybe not the ones from Yorkshire. Haha.

Yes, you Americans do speak somewhat faster and have an idiom all of your own too.

Note: This is how Asturian sounds like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBcuJ6in6fM)

Yes, you Americans do speak somewhat faster and have an idiom all of your own too.

Note: This is how Asturian sounds like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBcuJ6in6fM)

Those silly Romans and their excellent language and its offspring... That's oddly soothing.

Theodore Roosevelt was a great public speaker.

George W. Bush is not.


Whuh?

See what I'm getting at?
Naw..
Why don't ya'll ee-nun-see-ate a bit more, y'hear?

Those silly Romans and their excellent language and its offspring... That's oddly soothing.

Asina falla la mi guela! Y asina falo yo.

That´s how my gandma talks! And I talk that way too.

Yes, it´s a very soothing dialect.

Asina falla la mi guela! Y asina falo yo.

That´s how my gandma talks! And I talk that way too.

Yes, it´s a very soothing dialect.

*removes pants*

I am at your disposal.

*removes pants*

I am at your disposal.

I can haz teh Potarius?:D

Whuh?


Naw..
Why don't ya'll ee-nun-see-ate a bit more, y'hear?

SILENCE!

*turns on VHS recording of The New Yankee Workshop with Norm Abram*

Aaaahh... Now that's the ticket.

I can haz teh Potarius?:D

All 5'10" and 142 pounds.

:p

*removes pants*

I am at your disposal.

Painful... painful.. images. (http://z.about.com/d/homerepair/1/0/g/0/-/-/gar_disp_expl_view.jpg)

Painful... painful.. images. (http://z.about.com/d/homerepair/1/0/g/0/-/-/gar_disp_expl_view.jpg)

Amazingly, we think along the same lines. I had that image stirring about as I typed that, though that's not the image I was shooting for in that context.

But, my mind persists, and I can't turn it off...

All 5'10" and 142 pounds.

:p

Ok... *goes to get A1 Stake Sauce*:p

@Bann-ed: LOL!

Amazingly, we think along the same lines. I had that image stirring about as I typed that, though that's not the image I was shooting for in that context.

But, my mind persists, and I can't turn it off...
Mmhmm.. right. You can always try going to sleep or being knocked unconcious. Sometimes that helps.
Ok... *goes to get A1 Stake Sauce*:p


Roflsauce. :p

Mmhmm.. right. You can always try going to sleep or being knocked unconcious. Sometimes that helps.


Roflsauce. :p

Hey, why don´t you us a pic of you? Potarius did it. I did it. Now, we just miss yours. Whatddya say?;)

Ok... *goes to get A1 Stake Sauce*:p

Steak! STEAK!

Though I'm sure one could pour it on a stake, though it'd have a rather woody taste nonetheless.

Hey, why don´t you us a pic of you? Potarius did it. I did it. Now, we just miss yours. Whatddya say?;)

'Tis an old pic and most certainly does not display my good side, but...http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/Jedi-Gilthanas/fiddling_cahlkcharcoal.jpg

Steak! STEAK!

Though I'm sure one could pour it on a stake, though it'd have a rather woody taste nonetheless.

Woody. LOL! No, seriously now. I don´t like that sauce. I like my steak, when I eat it, to be virgin. And by that I mean no sauces or anything of the sort. Just plain steak. Yup.

Now granted, it probably won't be Hillary as she should have drop out but 2 months ago and is simply wasting everyone's time and nagging Obama. But would you be ok with a woman is general as President? Or would you worry they would be overly emotional or in some other way not do the job as effectively as men, who have made up 43 out of 43 Presidents.

I would love to see a woman president. It's worked for other industrialized nations. They haven't destroyed anything a man is not capable of Fing up as well in the past few hundred years. Give it a go. I'll take the very best person for the job please.

'Tis an old pic and most certainly does not display my good side, but...http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/Jedi-Gilthanas/fiddling_cahlkcharcoal.jpg

Cool photo, mate.:)

You´re gonna be Chief of Staff in my Administration. Sorta like Condolleza Rice, but good looking.:D

Woody. LOL! No, seriously now. I don´t like that sauce. I like my steak, when I eat it, to be virgin. And by that I mean no sauces or anything of the sort. Just plain steak. Yup.

Oh come on, that had to be intentional...

...Though I like my steak in just about every way imaginable. But it can only go as low as medium-well --- I dislike the taste of blood.

Cool photo, mate.:)

You´re gonna be Chief of Staff in my Administration. Sorta like Condolleza Rice, but good looking.:D

So what all do you have for your administration so far?

A Chief of Staff and a member of your harem?

Oh come on, that had to be intentional...

...Though I like my steak in just about every way imaginable. But it can only go as low as medium-well --- I dislike the taste of blood.

ROLF! No intention there.

I like my steak to be medium-well. When it´s too cooked it becomes rubbery. No pun intended.

So what all do you have for your administration so far?

A Chief of Staff and a member of your harem?

I also have my VP, a VP that happens to be a member of my harem. Or was that Bann-ed? Ah crap, now I´m confused.

Cool photo, mate.:)

You´re gonna be Chief of Staff in my Administration. Sorta like Condolleza Rice, but good looking.:D

Thanks.

Nice, VP and Chief of Staff. I think I am covered if the President and Vice President are assassinated then. I still get to be President...(is Chief of Staff in the line of succession, does anyone know?)

Thanks.

Nice, VP and Chief of Staff. I think I am covered if the President and Vice President are assassinated then. I still get to be President...(is Chief of Staff in the line of succession, does anyone know?)

Lord of the Harem is better.

I like my steak to be medium-well. When it´s too cooked it becomes rubbery. No pun intended.

Sure... That's no pun! It's a fully armed and operational battle station!!

Thanks.

Nice, VP and Chief of Staff. I think I am covered if the President and Vice President are assassinated then. I still get to be President...(is Chief of Staff in the line of succession, does anyone know?)

You´re welcome.

I thought that was supposed to be the Secretary of State. Does anyone else knows for sure?

Sure... That's no pun! It's a fully armed and operational battle station!!

:D
Pervy pervy mind. I admire thee so.

Sure... That's no pun! It's a fully armed and operational battle station!!

Oh your god, that was lame... And completely effective.

Congratulations.

Lord of the Harem is better.

While the current administration is around, yes.

I don't know if the position of 'Lord of the Harem' is transferable after the old administration leaves. Who knows what you'll end up with next? Hillary?

While the current administration is around, yes.

I don't know if the position of 'Lord of the Harem' is transferable after the old administration leaves. Who knows what you'll end up with next? Hillary?

Worse. If I leave, he´ll end up with Billary.:eek:

:D
Pervy pervy mind. I admire thee so.
I think it's a gender trait.
Oh your god, that was lame... And completely effective.

Congratulations.

Thanks. Don't stop.

Worse. If I leave, he´ll end up with Billary.:eek:

Gah! Double teamed.. that is traumatizing.

I think it's a gender trait.

It´s more of a Bann-ed thing.
That sounds like a slogan for a male perfume ad.

Gah! Double teamed.. that is traumatizing.

Plus, you don´t know where those two have been. Unhealthy!

It´s more of a Bann-ed thing.
That sounds like a slogan for a male perfume ad.

Hrm.. I suppose it does.

Great site. (http://thesurrealist.co.uk/slogan)

Hrm.. I suppose it does.

Great site. (http://thesurrealist.co.uk/slogan)

This (http://thesurrealist.co.uk/slogan.cgi?word=Bann-ed) came out.

Plus, you don´t know where those two have been. Unhealthy!

Around.

The world. In 80 lays.

Plus, you don´t know where those two have been. Unhealthy!

I know where Bill's been (eugh), and where he's been since that ordeal (more eugh), and since he's been up in her, I definitely don't want to be in that. I'd probably end up barfing all over the place during intercourse.

Oh fucking hell, BAD MENTAL IMAGE.

This (http://thesurrealist.co.uk/slogan.cgi?word=Bann-ed) came out.

No joke, this is the first thing that popped up. "Taste the Nanatsu no Tsuki"
then
"Let Your Fingers Do the Walking Through the Nanatsu No Tsuki"

Edit: It appears to not display the one you get when you click on the link... so you'll have to paste the text in. It seems to re-do the entire process.

I know where Bill's been (eugh), and where he's been since that ordeal (more eugh), and since he's been up in her, I definitely don't want to be in that. I'd probably end up barfing all over the place during intercourse.

Oh fucking hell, BAD MENTAL IMAGE.

That could be fun to watch. Sorry, it had to be said. And hey, with the little action Hillary gets, because lets be honest, Bill doesn´t get into that anymore (I wouldn´t), the barfing might turn her on. Hillary´s scary and she eats babies but the woman has a need to orgasm, right?:)
*barfs at the thought*

Around.

Around. That makes them whores. Well, at least Bill is one.

No joke, this is the first thing that popped up. "Taste the Nanatsu no Tsuki"
then
"Let Your Fingers Do the Walking Through the Nanatsu No Tsuki"

Edit: It appears to not display the one you get when you click on the link... so you'll have to paste the text in. It seems to re-do the entire process.

I liked the second one.:D Still, pervy.

Nanatus no Tsuki means Ursa Major in Japanese. Or Seven Moons. I like the latter better.

That could be fun to watch. Sorry, it had to be said. And hey, with the little action Hillary gets, because lets be honest, Bill doesn´t get into that anymore (I wouldn´t), the barfing might turn her on. Hillary´s scary and she eats babies but the woman has a need to orgasm, right?:)
*barfs at the thought*

She's not getting my almost-8", so barf is all she'll get, and that's that.

*shudder*

She's not getting my almost-8", so barf is all she'll get, and that's that.

*shudder*

Don´t you worry, dude, I won´t let the Billary take you. We´ll both do harakiri if it comes to that.:p

Don´t you worry, dude, I won´t let the Billary take you. We´ll both do harakiri if it comes to that.:p

If it's two of us against her, we could destroy her for good.

And then proceed to nudity.

If it's two of us against her, we could destroy her for good.

And then proceed to nudity.

Nudenessness? *rubs her chin*
Ok, but only if after defeating the Billary, you let me play with your hair.:D

Nudenessness? *rubs her chin*
Ok, but only if after defeating the Billary, you let me play with your hair.:D

Done, done, and done.

But if you get to play with my hair, I get to play with your---

*is shot*

Done, done, and done.

But if you get to play with my hair, I get to play with your---

*is shot*

ZOMG! My Lord of Harem got shot!

I would be OK with anyone as long as they were qualified for the job.

It's terrible that we even have to ask ourselves if we would be OK with a woman or non-white president.

I don't live in a country with a president. However..

* Elizabeth Windsor
* Margaret Thatcher

...can't say I've had a big problem so far, though not many people liked the latter's silly Poll Tax ideas. So the former abolished it. Go Queenie.