Lost Cities.
I've recently discovered something about myself. I love the stories and thoughts of Lost Cities such as Troy(who's ruins were later found) Carthage, Karakorum and so on and so forth. It amazes me how these once great cities fall to become nothing more than ruins.
So do you have a favourite lost city and do you believe any of todays major world cities will eventually become lost cities (due to war, climate change, mass migration etc)?
Neo Bretonnia
18-04-2008, 20:19
Atlantis
Venice is the most prominent candidate at the moment.
Newer Burmecia
18-04-2008, 20:22
Gloucester.
Atlantis
I love the whole mystery of Atlantis. Did it exist or was it from the imagination of Plato? Afterall there are no other accounts of a place named Atlantis before Plato's mention.
Venice is the most prominent candidate at the moment.
Yeah the sinking of Venice, though some now claim that Venice is now longer sinking, however plans are still in motion to protect the city from further submersion.
New Manvir
18-04-2008, 20:29
Happy Valley-Goose Bay
Call to power
18-04-2008, 20:36
New Orleans makes a good lost city (apparently a weird cult still practices there for a few weeks every year!)
though I hear scientists have detected life skegness (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2005/03/skegnessPA310305_330x450.jpg)
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
18-04-2008, 20:43
What's that town that was evacuated after the coal mine caught fire and made the ground boil? I like that one. It's a modern-day lost city I guess, in the sense of 'lost' as synonymous with 'irretrievable.'
Kirchensittenbach
18-04-2008, 21:37
Im still out to discover those forgotten underground cities that Russia built
Lets all go find out what secrets they hid in there.....
Ashmoria
18-04-2008, 21:38
cahokia--a native american city near east st louis that was the size of a major european city in the 14th century.
What's that town that was evacuated after the coal mine caught fire and made the ground boil? I like that one. It's a modern-day lost city I guess, in the sense of 'lost' as synonymous with 'irretrievable.'
Centralia, PA.
I personally like Timbuktu; it's still inhabited, but in its heyday it was one of the wealthiest cities on Earth, heavily populated and boasting a diverse culture and was a center of Islamic learning almost unrivaled in the rest of the Islamic world. Unfortunately, its location and centuries of economic decline and warfare have erased this legacy, leaving a far less impressive place in its wake.
Sdaeriji
18-04-2008, 21:56
Chernobyl is probably the most recent example of a lost city. At least as much as I can recall.
Many theorize that New Orleans will be abandoned eventually. I doubt that the city will ever fully recover from Katrina.
Naples is at risk of becoming a lost city. If Vesuvius erupts big time, Naples might go the way of Montserrat - covered in ash and abandoned.
On the other end of the spectrum, I reckon that New York will be around for a long time. Even if the city suffered a disaster that forced temporary evacuation (like a nuclear strike, or the Cloverfield monster), New York has such a strong cultural identity that it would be rebuilt eventually. You'd have to not only destroy the city, but kill every current and former inhabitant.
Call to power
18-04-2008, 23:06
Im still out to discover those forgotten underground cities that Russia built
:confused:
cahokia--a native american city near east st louis that was the size of a major european city in the 14th century.
so crippled by plague with a population slowly dispersing into the countryside :p
The blessed Chris
19-04-2008, 01:58
Atlantis
It's been found, or, at any rate, the factual basis for the myth has been contended as being an island at the eastern tip of Cyprus, if memory serves, submerged when the Atlantic Ocean breached the Pillars of Herakles.
Atlantis
It's in the Pegasus Galaxy.
Alexandrian Ptolemais
19-04-2008, 02:40
Dunwich has to be one of my favourite Lost Cities - the beginning of the end came with a 1286 storm surge.
In terms of possible modern lost cities, I think it is likely that New Orleans may eventually become abandoned; similarly with Venice if it continues sinking. Along the Naples line, Auckland is at similar risk of becoming a lost city if a volcano erupts there as well.
In terms of New York, it runs the risk of being worst effected if global warming occurs - Manhattan Island isn't that high above sea level, and neither is much of the city. London is also at similar risk, given that the area is sinking.
Perth: Seriously, it is such a hole nobody could even locate it on a map of Australia...
I like em all.
From Atlantis to Centralia, PA.
it's interesting to discover how a city/civilization got lost and how they probably lived (or in Centralia's case, what will happen next).
from the lost Mayan temples to the frozen figures of Pompei... it's all good to me.
surprised no one mentioned Roanoke (http://www.nationalcenter.org/ColonyofRoanoke.html)... but then would that count as a lost city?
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 04:23
cahokia--a native american city near east st louis that was the size of a major european city in the 14th century.
I read a book on Mississippian civilizations. Very interesting. Not a bunch of savages after all.
The most likely American city to become lost will be New Orleans I believe.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 04:25
In terms of New York, it runs the risk of being worst effected if global warming occurs - Manhattan Island isn't that high above sea level, and neither is much of the city. London is also at similar risk, given that the area is sinking.
New York and London both have plans in the works if the sea rises.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-04-2008, 06:28
I vaguely recall some programmes about dead civilisations, such as the Aztec cities, or why Easter Island built all those odd sculptures. That stone henge thing is also confusing. I put it down to religion for now, it explains most peculairities.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-04-2008, 06:29
New York and London both have plans in the works if the sea rises.
a big swimming competition?
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 07:06
a big swimming competition?
Hardly, but it did involve huge steel constructs blocking the harbor for NY and an even bigger construct on the Thames than is already there.
Legumbria
19-04-2008, 07:17
How has Machu Pichu not come up yet; I mean, it's not on my persnal top five or whatever, but I'd say its a rather significant lost city.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 07:21
How has Machu Pichu not come up yet; I mean, it's not on my persnal top five or whatever, but I'd say its a rather significant lost city.
Truly it is. I would imagine El Dorado would be the ultimate along with Atlantis.
Lach-Land
19-04-2008, 07:26
Carthage
Technotitlan
El Dorado was supposed a king (man of gold) and the spanish misinterpreted a native.
The mayan cities are interesting, while Technotitlan was destroyed in war the maya simply disappeared, abandoning these cities.
Hardly, but it did involve huge steel constructs blocking the harbor for NY and an even bigger construct on the Thames than is already there.
That's a lot of work as you would have to circle most of the city. Remember, the Meadowlands are biult in a swamp that's about 6 inches above sea level. And you'd have to close off L.I. Sound, and find a way to pump the entire Hudson River's flow up into a higher ocean.
Favorite: Chichen Itza.
Carthage
Technotitlan
El Dorado was supposed a king (man of gold) and the spanish misinterpreted a native.
The mayan cities are interesting, while Technotitlan was destroyed in war the maya simply disappeared, abandoning these cities.
Tecnochitlan didn't disappear though. Mexico City's in the same spot.
Same property, new ownership.
Los De Abajo
19-04-2008, 07:29
Good to see Macchu Pichu mentioned, but my favorite lost city would be Vilcabamba, also in Peru. Founded by Manco Inca Yupanqui in the aftermath of the Spanish conquest of Peru, it was eventually conquered during the reign of Tupac Amaru, who was brought to Cuzco, and executed. Wikipedia states that the location of Vilcabamba is quite certainly known, although when I studied these things in college (some years ago!), its location was very much a mystery.
Hopefully, the information that beautiful Venice is no longer sinking is correct; but if not, la serenisima would be my candidate for a future lost city.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 07:30
Tecnochitlan didn't disappear though. Mexico City's in the same spot.
Same property, new ownership.
By that logic neither did Carthage. Isn't Tunis built on the ruins?
Lach-Land
19-04-2008, 07:42
All the Inhabitants are dead, a new city is built over top in that sense both are 'lost'.
By that logic neither did Carthage. Isn't Tunis built on the ruins?
Kinda sorta. According to Wikipedia, Carthage is now a suburb of Tunis. Certainly not a lost city, especially since the Romans resettled it after whooping Hannibal.
South Lorenya
19-04-2008, 07:44
In ~5 billion years, that metropolis/city/town/hut you live in will be too hot for human habitation...
All the Inhabitants are dead, a new city is built over top in that sense both are 'lost'.
But no one killed all the Aztecs. You can look at the average Mexican and see that they're not all Spanish blood in there.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 07:47
Kinda sorta. According to Wikipedia, Carthage is now a suburb of Tunis. Certainly not a lost city, especially since the Romans resettled it after whooping Hannibal.
Well...fifty years after whooping Hannibal. There was the third Punic War. :p
Well...fifty years after whooping Hannibal. There was the third Punic War. :p
You know what I mean.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 07:49
By that logic neither did Carthage. Isn't Tunis built on the ruins?
Yes it is basically. The ruins are fairly good as are most of the ruins in North Africa.
http://bseelig.nomadlife.org/the_gulf_from_cathage_ruins_small.jpg
CthulhuFhtagn
19-04-2008, 07:52
The Nameless City is the best one.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 07:54
But no one killed all the Aztecs. You can look at the average Mexican and see that they're not all Spanish blood in there.
If I'm recalling the story of Tecnochitlan correctly, didn't the Aztecs claim to have found it themselves? I thought it had been built and abandoned by an earlier, unnamed civilization.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 07:54
Yes it is basically. The ruins are fairly good as are most of the ruins in North Africa.
http://bseelig.nomadlife.org/the_gulf_from_cathage_ruins_small.jpg
Yeah....its on my list of places to see.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 07:54
Wherever all those Amazon women lived is probably an interesting one.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 07:56
Yeah....its on my list of places to see.
The best ruins are Leptis Magna in Libya out of all the Roman ruins in North Africa. I have not been there yet however I have seen enough pics from people that have been there. It looks amazing.
http://www.jorgetutor.com/libia/leptismagna1/leptismagna.htm
Lach-Land
19-04-2008, 07:57
If I'm recalling the story of Tecnochitlan correctly, didn't the Aztecs claim to have found it themselves? I thought it had been built and abandoned by an earlier, unnamed civilization.
no they found an island in a lake with a eagle eating a snake sitting on a cactus.
But no one killed all the Aztecs. You can look at the average Mexican and see that they're not all Spanish blood in there.
But Technotitlan was wrecked multiple times in the conquista, (by spanish, aztecs, spanish again).
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 08:01
No one has mentioned Ophir yet. From the days of King Solomon.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 08:02
The best ruins are Leptis Magna in Libya out of all the Roman ruins in North Africa. I have not been there yet however I have seen enough pics from people that have been there. It looks amazing.
http://www.jorgetutor.com/libia/leptismagna1/leptismagna.htm
I remember my professor raving about Leptis Magna. I wasn't too clear if he'd actually seen it or not, but he said the same thing. Those are some incredible pictures.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 08:04
no they found an island in a lake with a eagle eating a snake sitting on a cactus.
But Technotitlan was wrecked multiple times in the conquista, (by spanish, aztecs, spanish again).
Even the American Army strode on in there during it's latest incarnate.
So they wrecked Mexico City, big deal.
Lots of towns get wrecked in war, then rebuild. That doesn't make them lost cities, otherwise we could add Hiroshima to the list.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 08:07
Alright probably one people didn't think of: The capital city of Greater Zimbabwe.
Xocotl Constellation
19-04-2008, 09:36
I seem to remember a story about a lost viking outpost called (forgive me for this) Or-run-bay-ga. Or something sounding simular.
Also I'm surprized no one has mentioned Sodom, Gomorrah, or even Shambla (Shangra-la).
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 15:29
I seem to remember a story about a lost viking outpost called (forgive me for this) Or-run-bay-ga. Or something sounding simular.
Also I'm surprized no one has mentioned Sodom, Gomorrah, or even Shambla (Shangra-la).
Good points however I think NSG is Eurocentric thus no mention. As for the viking settlement are you talking about the one in Canada?
The blessed Chris
19-04-2008, 15:34
Kinda sorta. According to Wikipedia, Carthage is now a suburb of Tunis. Certainly not a lost city, especially since the Romans resettled it after whooping Hannibal.
How can one "resettle" a conurbation reaved to the extent no buildings still stand, and the soil is salted? Far be it from me to apply this damn logic stuff, but that would in no way be sustainable.
Newmarche
19-04-2008, 15:44
I think Pompeii is my favourite. The fact that it was lost so suddenly and violently, and that the forms of the inhabitants in their last moments are preserved makes it all the more 'Atlantisy', if you know what I mean.
Daistallia 2104
19-04-2008, 16:31
Mohenjo-daro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohenjo-daro), the city temple of Angor Wat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angkor_Wat), Yamatai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamatai), and Karakorum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakorum_%28palace%29) are all cool.
Muxchu Pichu's up there as well.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 17:20
How can one "resettle" a conurbation reaved to the extent no buildings still stand, and the soil is salted? Far be it from me to apply this damn logic stuff, but that would in no way be sustainable.
The salted farmland is probably myth, or at the very least poetic license. As for a Roman colony on the ruins of Carthage, that's documented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage#Roman_Carthage).
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 17:26
The salted farmland is probably myth, or at the very least poetic license. As for a Roman colony on the ruins of Carthage, that's documented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage#Roman_Carthage).
Salted farmland could have very easily have been done. It also is very effective.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 17:30
Salted farmland could have very easily have been done. It also is very effective.
I'm not saying it's impossible to salt farmland. But the Romans, particularly in the early Republic, often refounded and resettled the cities they conquered. Carthage was no exception, so salting the farms seems an unlikely and counterproductive tactic.
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 17:35
I'm not saying it's impossible to salt farmland. But the Romans, particularly in the early Republic, often refounded and resettled the cities they conquered. Carthage was no exception, so salting the farms seems an unlikely and counterproductive tactic.
Ahh yes you would be right in assuming this for a normal situation. However the Romans had enough of Carthage and hated her so. So they razed the city with a vengeance and put that salt spike in her agricultural heart. It was out of sheer anger.
Edit:
http://books.google.com/books?id=cDCHcXW5_ugC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=why+the+romans+razed+Carthage&source=web&ots=-pywTad_UF&sig=YhAfhJA-7XkplfSxdwQyVy5PKYY&hl=en#PPA79,M1
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 17:46
Ahh yes you would be right in assuming this for a normal situation. However the Romans had enough of Carthage and hated her so. So they razed the city with a vengeance and put that salt spike in her agricultural heart. It was out of sheer anger.
Meh. Roman history is full of literary license. Polybius' reputation notwithstanding, I don't take anything the contemporary historians wrote at face value. Whatever the Romans felt about Carthage, salting the farmlands strikes me as too grandiose and irrational to be truth.
the Great Dawn
19-04-2008, 17:55
In terms of New York, it runs the risk of being worst effected if global warming occurs - Manhattan Island isn't that high above sea level, and neither is much of the city. London is also at similar risk, given that the area is sinking.
If that happens, count the whole westren city-heart from Holland in, also known as The Randstad, as well. All city's there (Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague, probably Utrecht and loads of minor city's) would change into great scuba-places.
Anyway, I still have lots of lost city's on my vacation-list, ofcourse all the classics, nothing special ;)
Marrakech II
19-04-2008, 19:06
too grandiose and irrational.
Aye, but you just described many leaders throughout time with this statement.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
19-04-2008, 19:07
I've recently discovered something about myself. I love the stories and thoughts of Lost Cities such as Troy(who's ruins were later found) Carthage, Karakorum and so on and so forth. It amazes me how these once great cities fall to become nothing more than ruins.
So do you have a favourite lost city and do you believe any of todays major world cities will eventually become lost cities (due to war, climate change, mass migration etc)?
I don´t have as much a favorite lost city as I have lost civilizations, like the Etruscans. I sometimes pull my hair in art history classes just trying to understand what happened to them? Were they completely assimilated by the Romans or were they exterminated by them?
When it comes to your last question, I believe that cities like New York, LA and London will be lost to future generations due to severe climate changes. But that, eventually, they´ll be found like Pompeii and Carthage.
Veblenia
19-04-2008, 19:24
Aye, but you just described many leaders throughout time with this statement.
I think this is the part where we simply agree to disagree.
Boonytopia
20-04-2008, 08:19
Canberra.
I like em all.
From Atlantis to Centralia, PA.
it's interesting to discover how a city/civilization got lost and how they probably lived (or in Centralia's case, what will happen next).
from the lost Mayan temples to the frozen figures of Pompei... it's all good to me.
surprised no one mentioned Roanoke (http://www.nationalcenter.org/ColonyofRoanoke.html)... but then would that count as a lost city?
I WAS gonna say that...
Lach-Land
20-04-2008, 11:18
Ahh yes you would be right in assuming this for a normal situation. However the Romans had enough of Carthage and hated her so. So they razed the city with a vengeance and put that salt spike in her agricultural heart. It was out of sheer anger.Roman soldiers were payed in salt, i don't think it would have been efficeint to salt all the useable farmland in Carthaginia, considering Carthage was largely trade based.
The history between Rome and Carthage is an interesting one. According to legend Carthage was founded by the survivors of Troy and ruled by a queen. she got into a fight with her husband and he left, taking many people with him; the two city's rivalry began hundreds maybe thousands of years before the Palapineasion (I know I butchered it) Wars.
I'm not to sure on the Etruscians but I beleive that it was likely that the Romans finally conquered them through culture.
United Beleriand
20-04-2008, 12:07
Lost cities? Tons of 'em:
Zagros + Iran + Elam
Dur Untash (Chogha Zanbil), 32.008718 N, 48.521181 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.008718_N_48.521181_E_&title=Dur+Untash)
Ecbatana (Hamadan), 34.802189 N, 48.518357 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.802189_N_48.518357_E_&title=Ecbatana)
Hasanlu Tepe, 36.939565 N, 45.589322 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.939565_N_45.589322_E_&title=Hasanlu+Tepe) ???
Naqsh-e Rustam, 30.037255 N, 52.859070 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.037255_N_52.859070_E_&title=Naqsh-e+Rustam)
Parsa (Persepolis), 29.934487 N, 52.890966 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=29.934487_N_52.890966_E_&title=Parsa)
Parsagadai, 30.201747 N, 53.179009 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.201747_N_53.179009_E_&title=Parsagadai)
Shahr-i-Sokhte, 30.587387 N, 61.321864 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.587387_N_61.321864_E_&title=Shahr-i-Sokhte)
Sialk, 33.968915 N, 51.404738 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.968915_N_51.404738_E_&title=Sialk)
Susa, 32.189220 N, 48.257785 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.189220_N_48.257785_E_&title=Susa)
Takht-e Suleiman, 36.603171 N, 47.235949 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.603171_N_47.235949_E_&title=Takht-e+Suleiman)
Zend-e Suleiman, 36.613945 N, 47.202790 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.613945_N_47.202790_E_&title=Zend-e+Suleiman)
Mesopotamia
Akkad (Agade), 32.771562 N, 44.320459 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.771562_N_44.320459_E_&title=Akkad) ???
Arrapha, 35.469706 N, 44.394147 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.469706_N_44.394147_E_&title=Arrapha)
Ashur (Assur), 35.456517 N, 43.262489 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.456517_N_43.262489_E_&title=Ashur)
Bab Ilu (Babylon), 32.536943 N, 44.422224 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.536943_N_44.422224_E_&title=Bab+Ilu)
Bad-tibira, 31.775053 N, 45.996636 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.775053_N_45.996636_E_&title=Bad-Tibira)
Borsippa (Birs Nimrud), 32.391997 N, 44.341688 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.391997_N_44.341688_E_&title=Borsippa)
Carchemish (Djerabis), 36.828919 N, 38.016139 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.828919_N_38.016139_E_&title=Carchemish)
Der, 33.111360 N, 45.948007 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.111360_N_45.948007_E_&title=Der) ???
Dur Sharrukin (Khorsabad), 36.509537 N, 43.229315 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.509537_N_43.229315_E_&title=Dur+Sharrukin)
Emar, 35.986895 N, 38.110791 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.986895_N_38.110791_E_&title=Emar)
Eridu (Urudug), 30.815838 N, 45.996070 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.815838_N_45.996070_E_&title=Eridu)
Haran, 36.862738 N, 39.030193 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.862738_N_39.030193_E_&title=Haran)
Isin, 31.884878 N, 45.269257 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.884878_N_45.269257_E_&title=Isin)
Kish, 32.540749 N, 44.605138 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.540749_N_44.605138_E_&title=Kish) ???
Kutha, 32.733333 N, 44.666667 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.733333_N_44.666667_E_&title=Kutha) ???
Lagash, 31.389676 N, 46.578775 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.389676_N_46.578775_E_&title=Lagash)
Larsa, 31.283975 N, 45.853047 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.283975_N_45.853047_E_&title=Larsa)
Mari, 34.549629 N, 40.889258 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.549629_N_40.889258_E_&title=Mari)
Mount Nemrut (Nemrut Dagi), 38.036129 N, 38.762672 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.036129_N_38.762672_E_&title=Mount+Nemrut)
Nagar, 36.667392 N, 41.058654 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.667392_N_41.058654_E_&title=Nagar)
Nimrud (Kalhu), 36.098132 N, 43.328756 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.098132_N_43.328756_E_&title=Nimrud)
Ninua (Niniveh), 36.359839 N, 43.152216 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.359839_N_43.152216_E_&title=Ninua)
Nippur (Nibru), 32.126939 N, 45.230785 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.126939_N_45.230785_E_&title=Nippur)
Qatara (Zamahe, Karana), 36.257087 N, 42.449336 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.257087_N_42.449336_E_&title=Qatara)
Shaduppum, 33.309828 N, 44.466505 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.309828_N_44.466505_E_&title=Shaduppum)
Sharrakum, 32.165869 N, 45.425081 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.165869_N_45.425081_E_&title=Sharrakum) ???
Shuruppak, 31.777363 N, 45.509761 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.777363_N_45.509761_E_&title=Shuruppak)
Sippar (Zimbir), 33.058829 N, 44.252153 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.058829_N_44.252153_E_&title=Sippar)
Sippar-Amnanum, 33.100012 N, 44.298549 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.100012_N_44.298549_E_&title=Sippar-Amnanum)
Terqa (Tell Ashara), 34.903200 N, 40.530445 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.903200_N_40.530445_E_&title=Terqa) ???
Umma, 31.626371 N, 45.874024 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.626371_N_45.874024_E_&title=Umma)
Upi (Upija, Opis, Akshak), 33.947201 N, 44.244717 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.947201_N_44.244717_E_&title=Upi)
Ur (Uru.Unuki), 30.962295 N, 46.104265 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.962295_N_46.104265_E_&title=Ur)
Ur (Urkesh), 37.057185 N, 40.997248 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.057185_N_40.997248_E_&title=Ur)
Ur (Urfa), 37.171343 N, 38.800512 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.171343_N_38.800512_E_&title=Ur)
Uruk (Unug), 31.324078 N, 45.638101 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.324078_N_45.638101_E_&title=Uruk)
Egypt
Abdju (Abydos), 26.174668 N, 31.907938 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=26.174668_N_31.907938_E_&title=Abdju)
Abu (Elephantine), 24.084540 N, 32.886060 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=24.084540_N_32.886060_E_&title=Abu)
Akhetaten, 27.644290 N, 30.895863 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=27.644290_N_30.895863_E_&title=Akhetaten)
Alexandria, 31.200036 N, 29.901952 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.200036_N_29.901952_E_&title=Alexandria)
Apu (Akhmim, Khen-min, Panopolis), 26.565321 N, 31.745953 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=26.565321_N_31.745953_E_&title=Apu)
Behdet (Idfu), 24.978205 N, 32.872639 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=24.978205_N_32.872639_E_&title=Behdet)
Buhen, 21.904154 N, 31.277863 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=21.904154_N_31.277863_E_&title=Buhen)
Djanet (Tanis, Zoan), 30.976390 N, 31.882408 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.976390_N_31.882408_E_&title=Djanet)
Hat-nen-nesu (Heracleopolis), 29.086112 N, 30.937457 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=29.086112_N_30.937457_E_&title=Hat-nen-nesu)
Hatwaret (Hawara), 29.272794 N, 30.899748 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=29.272794_N_30.899748_E_&title=Hatwaret)
Hatwaret (Avaris), 30.787419 N, 31.821367 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.787419_N_31.821367_E_&title=Hatwaret)
Heraclion, 31.310561 N, 30.134738 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.310561_N_30.134738_E_&title=Heraclion)
Itj-Tawy (Lisht), 29.570018 N, 31.229095 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=29.570018_N_31.229095_E_&title=Itj-Tawy)
Iunu (Heliopolis), 30.129217 N, 31.304336 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.129217_N_31.304336_E_&title=Iunu)
Khaset (Xois), 31.107006 N, 30.955024 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.107006_N_30.955024_E_&title=Khaset)
Khnum (Hermopolis), 27.781756 N, 30.803656 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=27.781756_N_30.803656_E_&title=Khnum)
Mennefer (Memphis), 29.849241 N, 31.258997 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=29.849241_N_31.258997_E_&title=Mennefer)
Nabta, 22.533543 N, 30.698901 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=22.533543_N_30.698901_E_&title=Nabta)
Naqada (Nagade), 25.914918 N, 32.708251 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=25.914918_N_32.708251_E_&title=Naqada)
Naucratis, 30.907223 N, 30.665145 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.907223_N_30.665145_E_&title=Naucratis)
Nekheb (Eileithyiaspolis), 25.119193 N, 32.797871 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=25.119193_N_32.797871_E_&title=Nekheb)
Nekhen (Hierakonpolis), 25.097665 N, 32.779510 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=25.097665_N_32.779510_E_&title=Nekhen)
Nubt (Ombos), 25.971098 N, 32.732960 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=25.971098_N_32.732960_E_&title=Nubt) ???
Pa-Kes (Faqus, Goshen), 30.728649 N, 31.804270 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.728649_N_31.804270_E_&title=Pa-Kes)
Per-Bastet (Bubastis), 30.569846 N, 31.512082 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.569846_N_31.512082_E_&title=Per-Bastet)
Per-Medjed (Oxyrhynchus), 28.535588 N, 30.659908 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=28.535588_N_30.659908_E_&title=Per-Medjed)
Per-Wadjet (Buto, Butosos), 31.223480 N, 30.599425 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.223480_N_30.599425_E_&title=Per-Wadjet)
Pi-Atum (Pithom), 30.552109 N, 32.099126 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.552109_N_32.099126_E_&title=Pi-Atum)
Pi-Ramesse (Per-Ramessu, Raamses), 30.799370 N, 31.834217 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.799370_N_31.834217_E_&title=Pi-Ramesse)
Pikuat (Canopus, Kanobos), 31.309739 N, 30.091468 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.309739_N_30.091468_E_&title=Pikuat)
Pilak (Philae), 24.025698 N, 32.884039 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=24.025698_N_32.884039_E_&title=Pilak)
Qustul, 22.189052 N, 31.510389 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=22.189052_N_31.510389_E_&title=Qustul)
Saqqara, 29.870124 N, 31.216321 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=29.870124_N_31.216321_E_&title=Saqqara)
Ta-ynt-netert (Dendera), 26.142006 N, 32.670367 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=26.142006_N_32.670367_E_&title=Ta-ynt-netert)
Taremu (Leontopolis), 30.288877 N, 31.360715 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.288877_N_31.360715_E_&title=Taremu)
Tjafanet (Tahpanhes, Daphnae Pelusiae, Baal Zephon), 30.860708 N, 32.171475 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.860708_N_32.171475_E_&title=Tjafanet)
Tjeku (Succoth), 30.586385 N, 32.136973 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.586385_N_32.136973_E_&title=Tjeku) ???
Tjenu (Thinis, Girga), 26.335313 N, 31.899001 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=26.335313_N_31.899001_E_&title=Tjenu)
Waset (Thebes), 25.697874 N, 32.640663 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=25.697874_N_32.640663_E_&title=Waset)
Zau (Sais), 30.968423 N, 30.752908 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.968423_N_30.752908_E_&title=Zau)
Anatolia
Adana, 36.989146 N, 35.338998 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.989146_N_35.338998_E_&title=Adana)
Attalia (Antalya), 36.886271 N, 30.703015 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.886271_N_30.703015_E_&title=Attalia)
Çatalhöyük, 37.665539 N, 32.826300 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.665539_N_32.826300_E_&title=%C7atalh%F6y%FCk)
Çayönü, 38.216329 N, 39.726509 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.216329_N_39.726509_E_&title=%C7ay%F6n%FC)
Hattusa, 40.014722 N, 34.616630 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.014722_N_34.616630_E_&title=Hattusa)
Ilios (Wilusa, Ilion, Troas, Troy), 39.957275 N, 26.238647 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=39.957275_N_26.238647_E_&title=Ilios)
Karum Kanesh (Kültepe), 38.850506 N, 35.634667 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.850506_N_35.634667_E_&title=Karum+Kanesh)
Milid (Arslantepe, Malatya), 38.343666 N, 38.306426 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.343666_N_38.306426_E_&title=Milid)
Nicaea, 40.428714 N, 29.719384 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.428714_N_29.719384_E_&title=Nicaea)
Sapinuwa, 40.272889 N, 35.251804 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.272889_N_35.251804_E_&title=Sapinuwa) ???
Sardis, 38.485231 N, 28.131382 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.485231_N_28.131382_E_&title=Sardis)
Tarsus, 36.913264 N, 34.892210 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.913264_N_34.892210_E_&title=Tarsus)
Yazilikaya, 40.025204 N, 34.632612 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.025204_N_34.632612_E_&title=Yazilikaya)
Syria + Levant
Acco (Ptolemais), 32.921803 N, 35.068733 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.921803_N_35.068733_E_&title=Acco)
Ai, 31.916401 N, 35.261294 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.916401_N_35.261294_E_&title=Ai)
Alalah (Alalakh), 36.237677 N, 36.384838 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.237677_N_36.384838_E_&title=Alalah)
Aleppo, 36.199277 N, 37.162977 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.199277_N_37.162977_E_&title=Aleppo)
Aphek (Tell Afik, Antipatris), 32.104380 N, 34.931880 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.104380_N_34.931880_E_&title=Aphek)
Arad Rabbah (Tel Arad), 31.280967 N, 35.126256 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.280967_N_35.126256_E_&title=Arad+Rabbah)
Ashdod, 31.803000 N, 34.635115 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.803000_N_34.635115_E_&title=Ashdod)
Ashkelon, 31.676756 N, 34.560300 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.676756_N_34.560300_E_&title=Ashkelon)
Baalbek (Heliopolis), 34.006867 N, 36.203805 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.006867_N_36.203805_E_&title=Baalbek)
Beersheba, 31.245198 N, 34.840837 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.245198_N_34.840837_E_&title=Beersheba)
Bet Shemesh, 31.751349 N, 34.975121 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.751349_N_34.975121_E_&title=Bet+Shemesh)
Bet-el, 31.921862 N, 35.239972 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.921862_N_35.239972_E_&title=Bet-el)
Beth Shean (Beth Shan), 32.504310 N, 35.502982 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.504310_N_35.502982_E_&title=Beth+Shean)
Bethany (beyond the Jordan), 31.836359 N, 35.552605 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.836359_N_35.552605_E_&title=Bethany)
Bezer, 32.516137 N, 36.488291 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.516137_N_36.488291_E_&title=Bezer)
Byblos, 34.119354 N, 35.646380 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.119354_N_35.646380_E_&title=Byblos)
Dan, 33.248757 N, 35.652852 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.248757_N_35.652852_E_&title=Dan)
Ebla (Tell Mardikh), 35.798398 N, 36.798728 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.798398_N_36.798728_E_&title=Ebla)
En Gedi (Tell Goren), 31.460111 N, 35.388899 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.460111_N_35.388899_E_&title=En+Gedi)
Gath, 31.701552 N, 34.848484 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.701552_N_34.848484_E_&title=Gath) ???
Gaza, 31.524818 N, 34.433365 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.524818_N_34.433365_E_&title=Gaza)
Geba / Gibeon, 31.858446 N, 35.262364 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.858446_N_35.262364_E_&title=Geba+%2F+Gibeon)
Gerar, 31.391291 N, 34.560570 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.391291_N_34.560570_E_&title=Gerar) ???
Gerasa / Jarash, 32.276822 N, 35.890551 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.276822_N_35.890551_E_&title=Gerasa+%2F+Jarash)
Gezer, 31.860224 N, 34.924610 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.860224_N_34.924610_E_&title=Gezer)
Gibeah, 31.823216 N, 35.231368 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.823216_N_35.231368_E_&title=Gibeah)
Gilgal, 31.866044 N, 35.475283 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.866044_N_35.475283_E_&title=Gilgal) ???
Gilgal Refaim (Rujm el-Hiri), 32.908705 N, 35.800705 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.908705_N_35.800705_E_&title=Gilgal+Refaim)
Gubla (Kepen, Byblos), 34.118987 N, 35.646088 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.118987_N_35.646088_E_&title=Gubla)
Hamath, 35.136583 N, 36.749236 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.136583_N_36.749236_E_&title=Hamath)
Hazor, 33.017455 N, 35.568501 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.017455_N_35.568501_E_&title=Hazor)
Herodion (Herodium), 31.665906 N, 35.241468 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.665906_N_35.241468_E_&title=Herodion)
Ijon, 33.328044 N, 35.611875 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.328044_N_35.611875_E_&title=Ijon) ???
Jericho (Tell es Sultan), 31.871002 N, 35.443910 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.871002_N_35.443910_E_&title=Jericho)
Jerusalem (Jebus), 31.773573 N, 35.234090 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.773573_N_35.234090_E_&title=Jerusalem)
Jezreel, 32.555484 N, 35.330816 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.555484_N_35.330816_E_&title=Jezreel)
Kadesh Barnea, 30.683115 N, 34.497681 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.683115_N_34.497681_E_&title=Kadesh+Barnea)
Kedesh, 33.109945 N, 35.530229 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.109945_N_35.530229_E_&title=Kedesh)
Magdala, 32.826013 N, 35.517954 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.826013_N_35.517954_E_&title=Magdala)
Megiddo, 32.583170 N, 35.182952 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.583170_N_35.182952_E_&title=Megiddo)
Micmash, 31.870659 N, 35.279980 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.870659_N_35.279980_E_&title=Micmash)
Mount Gilboa, 32.509841 N, 35.408435 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.509841_N_35.408435_E_&title=Mount+Gilboa)
Oboda (Avdat), 30.794397 N, 34.774887 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.794397_N_34.774887_E_&title=Oboda)
Petra, 30.328791 N, 35.442096 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.328791_N_35.442096_E_&title=Petra)
Pisgah, 31.765095 N, 35.719079 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.765095_N_35.719079_E_&title=Pisgah) ???
Qadesh, 34.555474 N, 36.519666 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.555474_N_36.519666_E_&title=Qadesh)
Qatna (Tell Mishrifeh), 34.834578 N, 36.866102 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.834578_N_36.866102_E_&title=Qatna)
Qumran, 31.741191 N, 35.458814 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.741191_N_35.458814_E_&title=Qumran)
Rabat Amon (Philadelphia), 31.954468 N, 35.934686 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.954468_N_35.934686_E_&title=Rabat+Amon)
Samaria, 32.276170 N, 35.190405 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.276170_N_35.190405_E_&title=Samaria)
Sharuhen (Tell el-Ajjul), 31.467665 N, 34.404297 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.467665_N_34.404297_E_&title=Sharuhen)
Shechem (Sychar, Neapolis), 32.213699 N, 35.281929 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.213699_N_35.281929_E_&title=Shechem)
Shiloh, 32.056001 N, 35.289578 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.056001_N_35.289578_E_&title=Shiloh)
Sidon, 33.561934 N, 35.369580 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.561934_N_35.369580_E_&title=Sidon)
Tadmor (Palmyra), 34.548811 N, 38.273363 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.548811_N_38.273363_E_&title=Tadmor)
Tamar, 30.809327 N, 35.244347 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=30.809327_N_35.244347_E_&title=Tamar) ???
Tell el-Farah (South), 31.282040 N, 34.482532 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.282040_N_34.482532_E_&title=Tell+el-Farah)
Tiberias, 32.780978 N, 35.543049 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.780978_N_35.543049_E_&title=Tiberias)
Tirzah (Tell el-Farah North), 32.273215 N, 35.291437 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.273215_N_35.291437_E_&title=Tirzah)
Tyros (Tylos), 33.272556 N, 35.194119 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=33.272556_N_35.194119_E_&title=Tyros)
Ugarit, 35.602289 N, 35.786563 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.602289_N_35.786563_E_&title=Ugarit)
Ya'Amun, 32.396288 N, 35.911783 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.396288_N_35.911783_E_&title=Ya%27Amun)
Ziglag (Tell Halif), 31.378694 N, 34.870054 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=31.378694_N_34.870054_E_&title=Ziglag) ???
Kush + Ethiopia
Aksum, 14.129743 N, 38.718965 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=14.129743_N_38.718965_E_&title=Aksum)
Kerma, 19.628453 N, 30.420158 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=19.628453_N_30.420158_E_&title=Kerma)
Meroë, 16.932909 N, 33.728550 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=16.932909_N_33.728550_E_&title=Mero%EB)
Napata, 18.528057 N, 31.827641 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=18.528057_N_31.827641_E_&title=Napata)
Arabian Peninsula
Dilmun (Tylos), 26.121640 N, 50.498941 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=26.121640_N_50.498941_E_&title=Dilmun)
Ubar, 18.254448 N, 53.650395 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=18.254448_N_53.650395_E_&title=Ubar)
Aegean
Akrotiri, 36.351599 N, 25.403474 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.351599_N_25.403474_E_&title=Akrotiri)
Amphipolis, 40.821318 N, 23.846446 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.821318_N_23.846446_E_&title=Amphipolis)
Argos, 37.636550 N, 22.715931 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.636550_N_22.715931_E_&title=Argos)
Helike (Eliki), 38.218179 N, 22.124176 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.218179_N_22.124176_E_&title=Helike)
Kenchreai (Cenchreae), 37.884712 N, 22.993170 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.884712_N_22.993170_E_&title=Kenchreai)
Kenchreai Peninsula, 37.867891 N, 22.999688 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.867891_N_22.999688_E_&title=Kenchreai+Peninsula)
Knossos, 35.297952 N, 25.163297 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.297952_N_25.163297_E_&title=Knossos)
Korinthos, 37.905954 N, 22.878227 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.905954_N_22.878227_E_&title=Korinthos)
Miletos, 37.526592 N, 27.276274 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.526592_N_27.276274_E_&title=Miletos)
Mukênai (Mycenae), 37.730035 N, 22.757866 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.730035_N_22.757866_E_&title=Muk%EAnai)
Neapolis, 40.937264 N, 24.414924 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.937264_N_24.414924_E_&title=Neapolis)
Pergamon (Acropolis), 39.132251 N, 27.183632 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=39.132251_N_27.183632_E_&title=Pergamon)
Philadelphia (Alaseir), 38.349054 N, 28.520000 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.349054_N_28.520000_E_&title=Philadelphia) ???
Sparta, 37.080667 N, 22.424944 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.080667_N_22.424944_E_&title=Sparta)
Thessalonica, 40.624825 N, 22.955087 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=40.624825_N_22.955087_E_&title=Thessalonica)
Tiryns, 37.582522 N, 22.810326 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.582522_N_22.810326_E_&title=Tiryns)
Mediterranean
Alba Longa, 41.736591 N, 12.657995 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=41.736591_N_12.657995_E_&title=Alba+Longa) ???
Carthago, 36.852283 N, 10.323447 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=36.852283_N_10.323447_E_&title=Carthago)
Cition, 34.923334 N, 33.630478 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.923334_N_33.630478_E_&title=Cition)
Lavinium, 41.661625 N, 12.478427 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=41.661625_N_12.478427_E_&title=Lavinium)
Leptis Magna, 32.638962 N, 14.295009 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=32.638962_N_14.295009_E_&title=Leptis+Magna)
Malta, 35.884073 N, 14.449302 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.884073_N_14.449302_E_&title=Malta)
Paphos, 34.758772 N, 32.407362 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=34.758772_N_32.407362_E_&title=Paphos)
Rome, 41.892313 N, 12.485513 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=41.892313_N_12.485513_E_&title=Rome)
Salamis, 35.177246 N, 33.907552 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=35.177246_N_33.907552_E_&title=Salamis)
Syracusae, 37.060822 N, 15.294203 E (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=37.060822_N_15.294203_E_&title=Syracusae)
Americas
Cahokia, 38.660614 N, -90.062098 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=38.660614_N_-90.062098_W_&title=Cahokia)
Cajamarca (Caxamalca), -7.159935 S, -78.518093 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-7.159935_S_-78.518093_W_&title=Cajamarca)
Chan Chan, -8.109552 S, -79.075208 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-8.109552_S_-79.075208_W_&title=Chan+Chan)
Chichen Itza, 20.680876 N, -88.567938 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=20.680876_N_-88.567938_W_&title=Chichen+Itza)
Choquequirao, -13.406338 S, -72.865541 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-13.406338_S_-72.865541_W_&title=Choquequirao) ???
Cuzco, -13.523596 S, -71.979069 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-13.523596_S_-71.979069_W_&title=Cuzco)
Machu Pichu, -13.164614 S, -72.544797 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-13.164614_S_-72.544797_W_&title=Machu+Pichu)
Monte Alban, 17.042944 N, -96.768385 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=17.042944_N_-96.768385_W_&title=Monte+Alban)
Ollantaytambo, -13.257044 S, -72.267315 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-13.257044_S_-72.267315_W_&title=Ollantaytambo)
Palenque, 17.483764 N, -92.046649 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=17.483764_N_-92.046649_W_&title=Palenque)
Teotihuacan, 19.692910 N, -98.846064 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=19.692910_N_-98.846064_W_&title=Teotihuacan)
Tiahuanaco, -16.483353 S, -68.559617 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=-16.483353_S_-68.559617_W_&title=Tiahuanaco)
Tikal, 17.225413 N, -89.611766 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=17.225413_N_-89.611766_W_&title=Tikal)
Uxmal, 20.361133 N, -89.770627 W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?params=20.361133_N_-89.770627_W_&title=Uxmal)
Tsaraine
20-04-2008, 12:22
Your list has "Rome" in there. Rome is called the Eternal City for a reason; it has 2700 years or so of continuous occupation. I'm not sure that your list is accurate as a list of lost cities.
Rome is still very much alive.. in fact it has been there since its founding and doesn't look to be going anywhere soon.
United Beleriand
20-04-2008, 18:28
Your list has "Rome" in there. Rome is called the Eternal City for a reason; it has 2700 years or so of continuous occupation. I'm not sure that your list is accurate as a list of lost cities.Well, it's in fact a list of ancient cities. ;)
Ashmoria
20-04-2008, 18:38
i am also fond of the anasazi cliff dwellers. the desire to live in the clefts in high canyon walls only accessible by ladder or climbing down the sheer cliff face is hard to understand.
http://www.jqjacobs.net/southwest/chelly.html
Marrakech II
20-04-2008, 18:47
Roman soldiers were payed in salt, i don't think it would have been efficeint to salt all the useable farmland in Carthaginia, considering Carthage was largely trade based.
My response is to read up on the relationship between Carthage and Rome. You will find the destruction and salting story in dozens of websites.
The Lone Alliance
20-04-2008, 20:49
Chernobyl is probably the most recent example of a lost city. At least as much as I can recall.
No Chernobyl ironicly still has squatters and people living there, some of the former owners and stuff.
The real abandoned city you are talking about is Prypiat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prypiat%2C_Ukraine).
And if you want to see how "Lost" it has become...
Look at their football (Soccer) stadiumfield (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/304/2067_3.jpg).
Something else:before (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/312/1864_3.jpg)and after (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/304/922_3.jpg)
The 'Friendship of Peoples' Monument before (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/312/1856_3.jpg) and after (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/304/955_3.jpg).
The Hospital Before (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/312/2174_3.jpg) and After (http://pripyat.com//sm/site/photogallery/uploads/304/923_3.jpg).
Creepy ain't it?
Another 40 years and it WILL be lost. It seems modern buildings fall apart and vanish much easier than olden day ruins.
I guess since it's made of wood and metal.
I watched in that "Earth after Us". It seems the only thing that would remain of New York after + 1000 years would be the bottom of the Statue of Liberty and not much else.
Rome and Jerusalem are not lost cities. I've been to both. They're alive. Trust me.
Also Jericho, Alexandria, Sparta, Beersheba, and Tiberias are still alive.
Hurdegaryp
21-04-2008, 14:25
The ancient abandoned cities of the pre-Columbian American cities are rather fascinating. Pueblo Bonito and Tikal are good examples.
And when we're talking about mythological lost cities, what about Sodom and Gomorrha?
Demented Hamsters
21-04-2008, 16:01
though I hear scientists have detected life skegness (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2005/03/skegnessPA310305_330x450.jpg)
Surely you mean this:
skegness (http://www.vizprints.com/lowres/47/main/1/121245.jpg)
Demented Hamsters
21-04-2008, 16:24
It's been found, or, at any rate, the factual basis for the myth has been contended as being an island at the eastern tip of Cyprus, if memory serves, submerged when the Atlantic Ocean breached the Pillars of Herakles.
considering the last time that happened was 5.4 million years ago (http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=350), one has to admire Plato for his research skills in being able to describe events that occurred 5.4 million years before he was born.
However, there are theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory) about the flooding of the Black Sea around 5600BC which might be basis for Flood mythologies and, as well, Alantis. This (5600BC) is still a good 5000+ years before Plato's time though, so still very unlikely.
But even more likely is the tsunami caused by the Thera eruption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thera_eruption) around 1630BC which basically destroyed the Minoan civilisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization)- a highly advanced and regarded civilisation for that time. As this was just over 1000 years before Plato, and close to where he lived, it's probably the more likely of the three.
Eggbiters
21-04-2008, 16:28
Gloucester.
:D If only it was truly lost