NationStates Jolt Archive


Aliens of London, The Christmas Invasion, Army of Ghosts, and maybe War of the Worlds

Klonor
16-04-2008, 04:56
For those who don't know, the British science fiction show Doctor Who, detailing the adventures of the time travelling Doctor as he explores the universe, often involves a nefarious plot to conquer or destroy the Earth, usually at the hands of a villanous alien species or individual. However, we of Earth continue on as we always have, blissfully unaware of the existence of aliens, because (essentially) we've got our heads so far up our backsides that we'll swallow the "It was all a hoax" stories the government rams down our throats after the defeat of every new menace. We viewers at home shake our heads, mutter at the stupidity of the people in the show who believe that a spaceship actually crashing into Big Ben could be a hoax, and the go on with our real lives. However, a thought struck me yesterday: What if we have fallen prey to such cover-up propoganda?

Just hear me out. I'm not actually saying I believe this to be true, but just give it some thought: What if the 1938 War of the Worlds transmission, which caused a panic by convincing people that aliens had landed in New Jersey, actually was real, and aliens really did land, and the government just called it a panic and mass hysteria afterwards in order to cover it up. It's exactly like that they do in Doctor Who, they claim it was a prank or hallucination or mistake on the part of broadcasters, and we continue on blindly, forcing ourselves to forget what we actually saw in favor of the "true" story of "There were no Martians, you just saw a spotlight and listening to a radio show made you think it was a spaceship." People are very willing to accept that which makes sense, and very quick to deny that which falls outside their views of what's "possible" (I feel a line from Men in Black to be appropriate here: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." Put us in groups and we'll swallow whatever makes us comfortable).

Now, again, I am in no way stating that I think Jersey was actually invaded by Martians back in '38 (Apart from the fact that there's no blasted ruins in my backyard, I also have a copy of the broadcast and they say, right in the beginning of the show, that it's a performance), nor that the government is hiding the existence of aliens from us, but it just makes me wonder: On Doctor Who they cover up each alien encounter with stories of a hoax, and the mass panic in '38 is explained as, again, being a hoax. Maybe there's some truth to Doctor Who afterall.
Howaitogoorudo
16-04-2008, 05:00
Interesting but you are thinking in to it a bit far. A bit too far.

*sprays Klonor with sleeping gas*
Howaitogoorudo
16-04-2008, 05:02
Actually at the beginning of the War of the Worlds transmission, the radio station stated that it was an act. Unfortunately not enough people heard the beginning of the broadcast.
The Scandinvans
16-04-2008, 05:03
They figured out ze plans!!!!

Now the time has come release our warriors upon these foul humans!

*Releases a bunch of Vikings upon the world.*
Klonor
16-04-2008, 05:05
(Apart from the fact that there's no blasted ruins in my backyard, I also have a copy of the broadcast and they say, right in the beginning of the show, that it's a performance)

Sorry Howaitogoorudo, but I think I stole your thunder
Troglobites
16-04-2008, 05:06
Where's my neuralyzer? ah, here it is.

*Flash*
Klonor
16-04-2008, 05:15
In three posts I've been gassed, neuralized, and (My personal favorite) Vikinged. I think this could be my greatest thread ever.
Enormous Gentiles
16-04-2008, 05:17
It was just Venus. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.

It was only a weather balloon.

Stop asking questions.
Xocotl Constellation
16-04-2008, 06:33
...Just hear me out. I'm not actually saying I believe this to be true, but just give it some thought: What if the 1938 War of the Worlds transmission, which caused a panic by convincing people that aliens had landed in New Jersey, actually was real, and aliens really did land, and the government just called it a panic and mass hysteria afterwards in order to cover it up. It's exactly like that they do in Doctor Who, they claim it was a prank or hallucination or mistake on the part of broadcasters, and we continue on blindly, forcing ourselves to forget what we actually saw in favor of the "true" story of "There were no Martians, you just saw a spotlight and listening to a radio show made you think it was a spaceship." People are very willing to accept that which makes sense, and very quick to deny that which falls outside their views of what's "possible" (I feel a line from Men in Black to be appropriate here: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." Put us in groups and we'll swallow whatever makes us comfortable)...


I think that was part of the premise behind War of the Worlds television series. Basicly the generation that lived through the invasion willingly "induced" selective amnesia of the event and hid all the evidence of the Martians.
G3N13
16-04-2008, 07:46
It was just Venus. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.

It was only a weather balloon.

Stop asking questions.
It was a venusian weather balloon, stop asking questions...

<.<

>.>

Aw crap :(
Andaras
16-04-2008, 08:04
I loved the killer Christmas tree:)
Levee en masse
16-04-2008, 08:55
Just hear me out. I'm not actually saying I believe this to be true, but just give it some thought: What if the 1938 War of the Worlds transmission, which caused a panic by convincing people that aliens had landed in New Jersey, actually was real, and aliens really did land, and the government just called it a panic and mass hysteria afterwards in order to cover it up. It's exactly like that they do in Doctor Who, they claim it was a prank or hallucination or mistake on the part of broadcasters, and we continue on blindly, forcing ourselves to forget what we actually saw in favor of the "true" story of "There were no Martians, you just saw a spotlight and listening to a radio show made you think it was a spaceship." People are very willing to accept that which makes sense, and very quick to deny that which falls outside their views of what's "possible" (I feel a line from Men in Black to be appropriate here: "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." Put us in groups and we'll swallow whatever makes us comfortable).

Now, again, I am in no way stating that I think Jersey was actually invaded by Martians back in '38 (Apart from the fact that there's no blasted ruins in my backyard, I also have a copy of the broadcast and they say, right in the beginning of the show, that it's a performance), nor that the government is hiding the existence of aliens from us, but it just makes me wonder: On Doctor Who they cover up each alien encounter with stories of a hoax, and the mass panic in '38 is explained as, again, being a hoax. Maybe there's some truth to Doctor Who afterall.

I believe this was the subject of one of the 8th Doctor audio adventures ;)
Philosopy
16-04-2008, 10:06
I think you're taking your fandom of Doctor Who too far.
Muravyets
16-04-2008, 15:47
This has been known for some time now. I refer you to the work of Dr. B. Banzai, founder of the Banzai Institute for Biomedical Engineering and Strategic Information:

http://www.banzai-institute.com/index.html

The exposure of the alien invasion of Earth, which was actually transdimensional, was described quite effectively in the 1984 documdrama "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension":
"The theatrical release version of the film opens with Banzai performing a test-run of his Jet Car, a heavily modified pickup truck powered by a jet engine and capable of exceeding Mach 1. The car is also equipped with a device called an oscillation overthruster, which allows it to drive through solid matter. The test is a success; Banzai stuns onlookers by driving the Jet Car directly through a mountain. Emerging from the mountain, Banzai finds that an alien, pod-like organism has attached itself to the car during transit.

Hearing of Banzai's success, Italian physicist Dr. Emilio Lizardo (John Lithgow) breaks out of the New Jersey insane asylum where he's been imprisoned for some years. In a flashback sequence, we learn that Banzai's assistant and mentor, Dr. Hikita (Robert Ito), was present at a failed overthruster experiment of Lizardo's in 1938. Failing to transit through the target wall, Lizardo is briefly trapped in the 8th dimension where his mind is taken over by Lord John Whorfin, hence his current diagnosis of a delusional disorder.

Whorfin is the leader of the Red Lectroids, a race of alien reptiles whom he had led on an expansionist campaign on Planet 10. After being defeated by the peace-loving Black Lectroids, Whorfin and his band of followers were banished into the formless void of the 8th dimension. Lizardo's failed experiment accidentally released Whorfin, where despite being trapped in Lizardo's body, he maintains his leadership of the Red Lectroids. He soon brings over a thousand of them to Earth in an incident that was reported by Orson Welles in his radio broadcast The War of the Worlds, only to have it mistaken as fiction.

These Red Lectroids now pose as employees of a defense contracting company named Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems. They have been working on building a large spacecraft under the cover of a US Air Force program, the "truncheon bomber", and intend to rescue the remaining exiles in the 8th dimension, then travel on to Planet 10 and take over. The lack of a working overthruster was a problem until Banzai manages to produce one, and Whorfin hopes to steal it. Banzai's team, the Hong Kong Cavaliers, becomes aware of the Yoyodyne link, and hacks into their computer. They discover that everyone there has the first name John, with various last names such as Yaya, Smallberries, and Bigbooté. At first they think it's a joke, but then they also note that they all have the same birthday, November 1, 1938, the day after the The War of the Worlds broadcast."
(emphasis added for emphasis)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Buckaroo_Banzai_Across_the_8th_Dimension

"The Future is Tomorrow" -- slogan of Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc.
Kyronea
16-04-2008, 16:24
This has been known for some time now. I refer you to the work of Dr. B. Banzai, founder of the Banzai Institute for Biomedical Engineering and Strategic Information:

http://www.banzai-institute.com/index.html

The exposure of the alien invasion of Earth, which was actually transdimensional, was described quite effectively in the 1984 documdrama "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension":

(emphasis added for emphasis)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Buckaroo_Banzai_Across_the_8th_Dimension

"The Future is Tomorrow" -- slogan of Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc.

oscillation overthruster
I KNEW IT! I knew something that stupidly named had to be taken from something! Might and Magic VII copied it!
The_pantless_hero
16-04-2008, 16:38
Actually at the beginning of the War of the Worlds transmission, the radio station stated that it was an act. Unfortunately not enough people heard the beginning of the broadcast.

Not to mention at other times during the transmission. And not to mention it was an adaptation of a 40 year old book.
Klonor
16-04-2008, 22:59
This was actually addressed in Doctor Who? Well, so much for my dramatic and revolutionary theory regarding First Contact in 1938. Still, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, he explained Time Travel to Martha with references to Marty McFly and loved the seventh Potter book, the man keeps up-to-date with human popular culture.
Vespertilia
16-04-2008, 23:58
Is Klonor a sort of acronym?

...

:headbang:
Nah, how stupid I am. THEY who are clearly spreading disinformation ("boy-who-cried-wolf" kind of, very clever, I have to admit) on NSG surely wouldn't set up a fake account named after their agency. Some agent dispatched to monitoring political fiction MMO games must've thought it's a cool name.
Londim
17-04-2008, 00:30
Army of Ghosts and Age of Steel were good episodes.

There is a possibility of your theory being true. Who's to say aliens haven't visited Earth but been covered up by governments? It's an out there theory I'll be honest but as you stated humans cannot in general accept things that are outside normal parameters.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-04-2008, 00:59
You Brits are fixing to conquer the World. I knew it! Dr. Who was telling me all along.:eek:
Klonor
17-04-2008, 01:58
Is Klonor a sort of acronym?

It is most definitly not an acronym for the Kazakhstan Liberal Organization Negating the Oppressive Regime. Not a chance. No way.
Muravyets
17-04-2008, 02:51
I KNEW IT! I knew something that stupidly named had to be taken from something! Might and Magic VII copied it!

Plagiarists!!!
Bann-ed
17-04-2008, 02:52
Not to mention at other times during the transmission. And not to mention it was an adaptation of a 40 year old book.

Americans read. :rolleyes: