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Relationships; Waste of Time or Not?

Alexandrian Ptolemais
15-04-2008, 13:48
Well NSGers, I have decided that it is time for us to move away from the normal threads on the death penalty, the American elections and religion to the more interesting topic of relationships.

For me, I have come to the conclusion over the years that relationships (the going out sort) are a complete waste of time. Within our modern Western society, the old discriminating factors of race, religion and social class have been replaced by the discriminating factor of 'hotness,' and few are able to overcome it. Of course, if you are going to be stuck having to pursue a certain sort of woman, is it really worth it.

Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well; there are the costs of going out, gifts for the other person and so on. Personally, I have found that I enjoy spending the money on other things or saving for my future, and at least, I know that it will not end up collapsing around me (like about 90% of relationships do).

Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?
Peepelonia
15-04-2008, 13:53
Well NSGers, I have decided that it is time for us to move away from the normal threads on the death penalty, the American elections and religion to the more interesting topic of relationships.

For me, I have come to the conclusion over the years that relationships (the going out sort) are a complete waste of time. Within our modern Western society, the old discriminating factors of race, religion and social class have been replaced by the discriminating factor of 'hotness,' and few are able to overcome it. Of course, if you are going to be stuck having to pursue a certain sort of woman, is it really worth it.

Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well; there are the costs of going out, gifts for the other person and so on. Personally, I have found that I enjoy spending the money on other things or saving for my future, and at least, I know that it will not end up collapsing around me (like about 90% of relationships do).

Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?

No of course not, but I would say that you don't have to stick to 'the rules' for relationships, in fact it's better if you and your 'freind' make up your own rules about what a relationship should be. For example, why does a relationship have to be expensive?
Alexandrian Ptolemais
15-04-2008, 13:59
Actually, I am not hitched up with anyone (if you got that impression); it was just a general topic for discussion.
Kirchensittenbach
15-04-2008, 13:59
why does a relationship have to be expensive?

You havent met many american women from the big cities have you?
they are greedy as ****
"buy me this!". "buy me that!",
"what, you wont buy it, dont you love me?"


As for relationships, i stick to the tried and true 1-man+1-Woman
simple, effective, and can lead to marriage without problem as long as you
play the give and take theme to keep the relationship in a state of both guy and girl being equal:fluffle:
Sirmomo1
15-04-2008, 14:00
I'd say race, religion, social class, money etc still play a part and hotness has probably always played a part too.

And yeah, relationships are nice. Got to have a hobby.
Mikesburg
15-04-2008, 14:00
Relationships are a lot more than a cost-benefit analysis. If your idea of a value of a relationship equates to 'hotness' vs. 'economy', than you really aren't getting the point of them.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
15-04-2008, 14:02
Well NSGers, I have decided that it is time for us to move away from the normal threads on the death penalty, the American elections and religion to the more interesting topic of relationships.

For me, I have come to the conclusion over the years that relationships (the going out sort) are a complete waste of time. Within our modern Western society, the old discriminating factors of race, religion and social class have been replaced by the discriminating factor of 'hotness,' and few are able to overcome it. Of course, if you are going to be stuck having to pursue a certain sort of woman, is it really worth it.

Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well; there are the costs of going out, gifts for the other person and so on. Personally, I have found that I enjoy spending the money on other things or saving for my future, and at least, I know that it will not end up collapsing around me (like about 90% of relationships do).

Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?

Dating is a total waste of time. Relationships are a drag, but aren't a total waste. Actually, I think they're necessary for emotional stability (not that we're not capable of living without a partner, you know), but it's always good to have one. At least sometimes.
Nipeng
15-04-2008, 14:02
Not being in a relationship is preferable to being in a relationship just because you think you should be in one.
Cabra West
15-04-2008, 14:05
Waste of time? You must be doing something really, really wrong if you think that.
Personally, I enjoy being in a relationship. I don't find it expensive, on the contrary : living together reduces the bills a good bit. But money aside, I like the thought of coming home to my BF, I like waking up next to him, I enjoy spending time with him, I even enjoy arguing with him. Overall, life's more enjoyable.
Dundee-Fienn
15-04-2008, 14:05
Relationships aren't always a waste of time. My girlfriend is the reason i've managed to stick with my current university course despite the bad times. I've put a lot of effort into our relationship, as has she, and when things go bad I know that she is there to cheer me up or help me out and I would definitely return the favour.

Is it expensive? For me yes. I enjoy spoiling her
Does it have to be expensive? Not at all

Do I regret spending the money? Not at all
Peepelonia
15-04-2008, 14:06
You havent met many american women from the big cities have you?
they are greedy as ****
"buy me this!". "buy me that!",
"what, you wont buy it, dont you love me?"


As for relationships, i stick to the tried and true 1-man+1-Woman
simple, effective, and can lead to marriage without problem as long as you
play the give and take theme to keep the relationship in a state of both guy and girl being equal:fluffle:


You know I have only ever met two actual American women.
Nipeng
15-04-2008, 14:08
As for relationships, i stick to the tried and true 1-man+1-Woman
Minus man, minus woman relationship? Brilliant. I'm sure all the parties go along well with each other.
Newer Burmecia
15-04-2008, 14:10
Don't know. I'm not in a relationship and not putting too much effort into looking. I don't know why, I just can't be bothered and never really have been. The only girls I've ever had a soft spot for have been in relationships with (good) friends anyway.
Kamsaki-Myu
15-04-2008, 14:18
Relationships aren't a waste of time. The people we love are more than worth the effort necessary to maintain our connection with them. Like Mikesburg said, there's more to it than just "worth". Love isn't something you do to facilitate your own existence. It's a paradigm shift; an orientation of your very world view about your engagement with the person of your affection.

What is a waste of time, effort and money, of course, is the hopeless courting routine that popular media and high-school peer groups drill into us as being a necessary part of hooking a status-symbol partner. You cannot develop and maintain a real relationship on the basis of social pressure or economic or sexual convenience, in my opinion.
Mikesburg
15-04-2008, 14:25
What is a waste of time, effort and money, of course, is the hopeless courting routine that popular media and high-school peer groups drill into us as being a necessary part of hooking a status-symbol partner. You cannot develop and maintain a real relationship on the basis of social pressure or economic or sexual convenience, in my opinion.

Quite right. If one's idea of the ideal date comes with a hefty price tag, then one wouldn't like the price associated with maintaining the relationship with someone of such high maintenance. Really, you don't want to date someone who's sole interest is your ability to pay for meals, or buy jewelry. You're looking in the wrong places.
NERVUN
15-04-2008, 14:33
Not at all, my wife helps me, I help her, we enjoy our time together and living our lives together. We now have a son, whom we love, even if he drives us nuts.

Life is now FAR better than it was when I was single, admittedly more expensive and busier, but better.
Lapse
15-04-2008, 14:37
Relationships are a lot more than a cost-benefit analysis. If your idea of a value of a relationship equates to 'hotness' vs. 'economy', than you really aren't getting the point of them.

yes, there is also a third variable, "Insanity"

So basically, for you to be compatible, they must be hot enough to counterbalance their insanity and Expense

Mathematically:
H>I*E
so, hotness on a scale of 0 -> 10
Insanity on a scale of 0-10
and expense is a function of the amount they cost you per time they put out divided by the amount it costs for an equally attractive hooker in your area. (G/P) [girlfriend$/prostitute$]

So, what you see is, that if the girl is completely insane, but doesn't cost you anything, then you have a compatibility
If they are nearly perfectly sane(lets say 1), but costs you 10 times more than a hooker for each time they put out, then you are incompatible...

And thus, the Lapse method of determining compatibility to 2 decimal places in known
Snafturi
15-04-2008, 14:42
Being in a relationship is great, as long as it's a healthy relationship. Being single can be great too.

Relationships are expensive? O.o Long distance relationships are expensive. What on earth are you doining in the regular ones that costs so much?
Ashmoria
15-04-2008, 14:46
having a good relationship with another person, especially a love relationship is not a waste of time.

thinking that you HAVE to be in a relationship and shopping for one as if you wont be OK without one is a waste of time.
VietnamSounds
15-04-2008, 15:07
Dating in the conventional sense is annoying. It works better if you make friends with someone first before trying to turn it into a relationship.
Call to power
15-04-2008, 15:17
interesting topic of relationships.

you must be joking

replaced by the discriminating factor of 'hotness,' and few are able to overcome it.

hotness means little to me and I presume it means pretty much nothing to most people (just look at the people that breed these days!)

having a body temperature and a pulse is usually my standard anyway :p

Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well

pfft only if you set yourself out as that kind of guy and in which case she should rightly kick off if your wasting all your cash (and is she doesn't stick it in her pooper because you have yourself a slag)

Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?

considering its kind of hard to be dead on the inside I suggest: finding a nice Jewish doctar

admittedly one of those 3 is good enough ;)

The only girls I've ever had a soft spot for have been in relationships with (good) friends anyway.

*locks the Ms in the basement for her own good*

also pics so we can choose which one

O.o Long distance relationships are expensive. What on earth are you doining in the regular ones that costs so much?

odd it seems my phone bill just quivered in shock
Snafturi
15-04-2008, 15:22
odd it seems my phone bill just quivered in shock

I should clarify, trans-atlantic relatiohships are expensive. Not as much now that I have internet in my home. Then again, that is the main reason for the internet in my home (skype is made of win). And the plane tickets. And the moving. And the cost of postage. It adds up.
Dyakovo
15-04-2008, 16:42
Having a good relationship with another person, especially a love relationship is not a waste of time.

Thinking that you HAVE to be in a relationship and shopping for one as if you wont be OK without one is a waste of time.

/\ This /\
The Alma Mater
15-04-2008, 17:22
Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well; there are the costs of going out, gifts for the other person and so on. Personally, I have found that I enjoy spending the money on other things or saving for my future, and at least, I know that it will not end up collapsing around me (like about 90% of relationships do).


Silly you. Dates should involve going to things you actually want to go to anyway and are suited for two. Especially early in the relationship.

Later some "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" concessions can be made.
Allothernamestaken
15-04-2008, 17:48
That's a good point, especially given that "going dutch" is more the norm these days, you're only ever paying for yourself to do things you enjoy, in company that may well let you slip her one.

Also, a partner always provides a good alibi
Veblenia
15-04-2008, 17:55
having a good relationship with another person, especially a love relationship is not a waste of time.

thinking that you HAVE to be in a relationship and shopping for one as if you wont be OK without one is a waste of time.

Seconded.
Troglobites
15-04-2008, 18:09
Shut up and make me a sammich.
Wilgrove
15-04-2008, 18:16
I think relationships are worth it if you find the right person. Of course with me, I just seem to attract crazy insane women. Of course I'm insane myself so that may be why.
Dyakovo
15-04-2008, 18:30
Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?

Those aren't the only choices.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
15-04-2008, 18:34
Shut up and make me a sammich.

I will make you no such thing! You make me a sammich!
Dakini
15-04-2008, 18:52
Some relationships are a waste of time, others aren't.

As for a waste of money... it's not necessary to spend a lot of money on another person, so it's something you should only do if you want. I mean, if they're only with you because you're spending a lot of money on them, why do you want to be with this person?
Isidoor
15-04-2008, 19:05
totally, what a waste of time, I don't know why anyone would want one.

*secretly wants a relationship*
Dyakovo
15-04-2008, 19:09
totally, what a waste of time, I don't know why anyone would want one.

*secretly wants a relationship*

*has secret relationship with Isi*
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Smileys/winkingsmiley.gif
Sparkelle
15-04-2008, 20:16
I haven't been single since I was 16. I wonder what it would be like to not be in a relationship. But I also wonder what its like to be very close to someone you aren't dating.
Philosopy
15-04-2008, 20:29
They're not a waste of time, they are a very fulfilling part of life. Presuming, of course, that you are in the right relationship.
Copiosa Scotia
15-04-2008, 21:08
We need the eggs.

That is all.
Call to power
15-04-2008, 21:15
I should clarify, trans-atlantic relatiohships are expensive. Not as much now that I have internet in my home. Then again, that is the main reason for the internet in my home (skype is made of win). And the plane tickets. And the moving. And the cost of postage. It adds up.

you do acquire lots of rather riskay photos though ;) (you should post these so that significant other can view them online)

they are a very fulfilling part of life. Presuming, of course, that you are in the right relationship.

cake is also very fulfilling? *spreads rumors about Philosopy's sex life*

Shut up and make me a sammich.
I will make you no such thing! You make me a sammich!

why not come to a compromise and make me a sammich! whilst I play tetris completely ignoring you naturally
Nanatsu no Tsuki
15-04-2008, 21:18
why not come to a compromise and make me a sammich! whilst I play tetris completely ignoring you naturally

You don't deserve it.
La Puerta
15-04-2008, 21:27
Wow, sounds like you all must be dating some superficial-ass girls... you've described the things that are important in high school, not the things that are important in life.
Sumamba Buwhan
15-04-2008, 21:29
I had given up on relationships and resigned myself to a life alone and THATS when I found the most perfect person for me so my advice is to give up.
Abju
15-04-2008, 21:30
Well NSGers, I have decided that it is time for us to move away from the normal threads on the death penalty, the American elections and religion to the more interesting topic of relationships.

For me, I have come to the conclusion over the years that relationships (the going out sort) are a complete waste of time. Within our modern Western society, the old discriminating factors of race, religion and social class have been replaced by the discriminating factor of 'hotness,' and few are able to overcome it. Of course, if you are going to be stuck having to pursue a certain sort of woman, is it really worth it.

Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well; there are the costs of going out, gifts for the other person and so on. Personally, I have found that I enjoy spending the money on other things or saving for my future, and at least, I know that it will not end up collapsing around me (like about 90% of relationships do).

Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?

The "going out" part of relationships are awful. Me and my just decided to go to things we both enjoyed together as friends and get a share-flat together and let things develop as they would. We've been together for five years now so I guess it works. Different for us though, as I'm asexual, so it comes down only to emotional bonds more than "hotness".

But don't dismiss relationships just because going out is unpleasant. Enjoy your time together but be prepared to accept from the outset it may not work, and that is not necessarily anyones fault, just the will of the gods... Sometimes people “click” and sometimes they don't. If you put too much pressure on things to work out "right" you will only make it more likely to go wrong and wind up either beating yourself up over it, or becoming consumed with hatred.

Not a waste of time. But not a hunt either. Just another part of life, neither irrelevant nor the "be all and end all".
Fluidism Viriline
15-04-2008, 22:44
i love relationships (all straight)
Intangelon
15-04-2008, 22:53
They're a waste of time to you, OP? Cool. More for the rest of us.
Iniika
15-04-2008, 23:48
Romantic relationships are a waste of time. They are fun in the beginning when things are new, but then they get clingie, they want to know why you don't want to spend time with them every single day, why you don't want to do things with their family and what they have done wrong and then there's the guilt... and I've realtized in my history of dating that I'm always happier when I'm alone. When I have no pressure and no commitments and no obligations. I can do what I want when I want and not have to worry about someone else getting in the way.
Ryadn
15-04-2008, 23:55
Didn't we already have this post? I swear someone else was moaning about how "expensive" relationships are and how their time and money could be better spent on WoW or something of the sort.

Personally, I like hanging out with someone, I like doing stuff, and I like sex. My relationship fulfills all of these interests. It's not hard math.
Ryadn
15-04-2008, 23:58
Different for us though, as I'm asexual, so it comes down only to emotional bonds more than "hotness".

No offense, but if the relationship is not sexual, how does it differ from a friendship?

i love relationships (all straight)

I'm glad you added that so we know we're safe and we won't catch the gay from you. :rolleyes:
Ryadn
16-04-2008, 00:04
Shut up and make me a sammich.

My bf is fond of saying "be quiet and go cook me a sammich, woman." Then I punch him in the stomach. This is how we express our love--like teenage boys, with faux insults and half-hearted attempts to beat each other up.

I think relationships are worth it if you find the right person. Of course with me, I just seem to attract crazy insane women. Of course I'm insane myself so that may be why.

I do that too! I've been involved with three girls in my life and they were all insane. I think girls are just insane.
Abju
16-04-2008, 01:09
No offense, but if the relationship is not sexual, how does it differ from a friendship?

There are differences, mostly emotional. Since asexual relationships don't really have a "niche" in our culture, it's hard to really sescribe, but it is different from both sexual relationships and friendships. I guess the one way I would explain it is that I'd be far more jealous and hurt if I learned my partner wanted to move in with someone else than if it was a flatmate. Also you share things with your partner you never would with a friend, and share some things with friends you'd never would with your partner.

I'm glad you added that so we know we're safe and we won't catch the gay from you. :rolleyes:

Don't be silly, everyone knows it only spreads through physical contact. They have to touch you. Wear gloves around any camp friends or co-workers and you'll be safe. Oh, and don't let them sneeze over you... Just to be on the safe side, you know? ;)
Mirkana
16-04-2008, 09:11
Dating in the conventional sense is annoying. It works better if you make friends with someone first before trying to turn it into a relationship.

My plan exactly. I would never ask someone out who I didn't consider a friend already.

For me, I don't want to be in a relationship for the purpose of being in a relationship. I want the pleasure that being in a relationship brings. Here at college, I see couples all the time. I see that they enjoy being together. I envy them. I know that relationships can bring problems (having witnessed my best friend nearly break up with her boyfriend), but I still want to be in a relationship.
Ifreann
16-04-2008, 11:45
Waste of time? You must be doing something really, really wrong if you think that.
Personally, I enjoy being in a relationship. I don't find it expensive, on the contrary : living together reduces the bills a good bit. But money aside, I like the thought of coming home to my BF, I like waking up next to him, I enjoy spending time with him, I even enjoy arguing with him. Overall, life's more enjoyable.

And the sex. Don't forget the sex.
Cabra West
16-04-2008, 12:29
Shut up and make me a sammich
I will make you no such thing! You make me a sammich!

I like being sammiched. :D
Bottle
16-04-2008, 12:52
For me, I have come to the conclusion over the years that relationships (the going out sort) are a complete waste of time. Within our modern Western society, the old discriminating factors of race, religion and social class have been replaced by the discriminating factor of 'hotness,' and few are able to overcome it.

Are you actually saying it's a bad thing for people to choose mates who are attractive to them?

Why would I want to 'overcome' this? Yes, I want my life-long mate to be appealing to me, particularly if we're going to be monogamous and therefore he/she is the only person I'll be fucking. Not seeing a problem there.


Of course, if you are going to be stuck having to pursue a certain sort of woman, is it really worth it.

Pursue whomever you find appealing as a potential mate. You're not "stuck" pursuing anybody.


Of course, relationships are themselves very expensive as well; there are the costs of going out, gifts for the other person and so on. Personally, I have found that I enjoy spending the money on other things or saving for my future, and at least, I know that it will not end up collapsing around me (like about 90% of relationships do).

If you don't like giving people presents, don't. Why is this difficult?


Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?
If you don't enjoy relationships, don't have them. But don't be stupid enough to think that your personal preferences are some kind of general rule.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
16-04-2008, 12:56
I like being sammiched. :D

:D
Sammichs are awesome.
Cabra West
16-04-2008, 13:09
And the sex. Don't forget the sex.

I would never forget that :D
Wilgrove
16-04-2008, 14:26
You know what's funny, I'm not in a relationship, and yet, one of my female friends is. They're relationship is pretty much falling apart and since I've been hanging out with her alot lately, I just know I'm going to get dragged into this drama. Wow, I have relationships problems with relationships that aren't even mine! *laughs a little crazy like*
Barringtonia
16-04-2008, 14:50
They are what they are - we don't live in a vacuum, everything we do in life constitutes a relationship, at what point would you call one a waste of time.

A relationship of the kind meant by the OP is simply more intense, and ultimately any relationship we have doesn't necessarily mean we learn more about others, though we do, we also learn more about ourselves. The importance of that relationship intensifies our feelings. It stretches the limits of who we are.

It becomes a waste of time when we've exhausted all learning or are simply afraid to learn more but the best relationships, the one's that last, are those where you're learning all the time.

I find that those who fear relationships fear themselves.
Isidoor
16-04-2008, 15:09
*has secret relationship with Isi*
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Smileys/winkingsmiley.gif

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Smileys/surprise.gif

If only it was this easy in real life.
Dyakovo
16-04-2008, 15:16
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Smileys/surprise.gif

If only it was this easy in real life.

Sometimes it is, other times not...
:fluffle:
Kyronea
16-04-2008, 15:20
I should clarify, trans-atlantic relatiohships are expensive. Not as much now that I have internet in my home. Then again, that is the main reason for the internet in my home (skype is made of win). And the plane tickets. And the moving. And the cost of postage. It adds up.
I am honestly amazed and happily surprised that your relationship is working out so well. I'm happy for yah.

As for my opinion, I think relationships are worth the time. The key is to find someone you can really connect with. That's, unfortunately, a lot harder than people might realize at first...
Peepelonia
16-04-2008, 15:21
Don't be silly, everyone knows it only spreads through physical contact. They have to touch you. Wear gloves around any camp friends or co-workers and you'll be safe. Oh, and don't let them sneeze over you... Just to be on the safe side, you know? ;)


Umm I once shared a glass of beer with a gay co-worker, and I do feel a little queer!
Peepelonia
16-04-2008, 15:22
As for my opinion, I think relationships are worth the time. The key is to find someone you can really connect with. That's, unfortunately, a lot harder than people might realize at first...


Naaa it aint, just keep on kissing them frogs.
Kyronea
16-04-2008, 15:24
Are you actually saying it's a bad thing for people to choose mates who are attractive to them?

Why would I want to 'overcome' this? Yes, I want my life-long mate to be appealing to me, particularly if we're going to be monogamous and therefore he/she is the only person I'll be fucking. Not seeing a problem there.



That's not his objection, if I understand his point correctly.

His objection is more along the lines of what constitutes physical attractiveness and how not matching a certain image idolized by fashion magazines/what have you has been leading--especially amongst teenagers and young adults--to quite a few people finding it a lot harder to find someone who would be willing to even consider going out with them.

Of course, that just means they're looking in the wrong place, but that's beside the point.
Kyronea
16-04-2008, 15:25
Naaa it aint, just keep on kissing them frogs.

I knew I liked you for some reason. :D
Peepelonia
16-04-2008, 15:28
I knew I liked you for some reason. :D

Heh sweet!
Bottle
16-04-2008, 15:41
That's not his objection, if I understand his point correctly.

His objection is more along the lines of what constitutes physical attractiveness and how not matching a certain image idolized by fashion magazines/what have you has been leading--especially amongst teenagers and young adults--to quite a few people finding it a lot harder to find someone who would be willing to even consider going out with them.

Of course, that just means they're looking in the wrong place, but that's beside the point.
I think it's exactly the point.

Why would you want to date somebody who's that stupid/shallow/tacky?

I think part of the problem is that people assume that ANY relationship is better than none at all, and they go into every dating situation with that in mind. Fuck that noise.

A relationship is worth it when you're happier in the relationship than you are without the relationship. It's that simple. Yes, there are people in the world who are annoying or stupid or mean or not your type. So...don't date them? Don't seek out relationships with people who are lame, and you won't have to put up with lame relationships.
Geniasis
16-04-2008, 16:12
You havent met many american women from the big cities have you?
they are greedy as ****
"buy me this!". "buy me that!",
"what, you wont buy it, dont you love me?"


As for relationships, i stick to the tried and true 1-man+1-Woman
simple, effective, and can lead to marriage without problem as long as you
play the give and take theme to keep the relationship in a state of both guy and girl being equal:fluffle:

Because that's how all American women are after all.

:rolleyes:

Umm I once shared a glass of beer with a gay co-worker, and I do feel a little queer!

I'm no Doctor, but yes you have contracted the gay. You'll be a gay desperado within the week.
Dyakovo
16-04-2008, 16:19
Because that's how all American women are after all.

:rolleyes:

Kirch has already stated that the entirety of his knowledge of the U.S. is based on Hollywood movies he's seen.
Greater Trostia
16-04-2008, 16:23
I had given up on relationships and resigned myself to a life alone and THATS when I found the most perfect person for me so my advice is to give up.

Wrong lesson. It was probably your resolute manner, your acceptance of your fate, whatever it might be. Not that you had simply quit or given up, but you had changed your mindset so that it was less needy and more at peace with yourself.
Dyakovo
16-04-2008, 16:25
Wrong lesson. It was probably your resolute manner, your acceptance of your fate, whatever it might be. Not that you had simply quit or given up, but you had changed your mindset so that it was less needy and more at peace with yourself.

QFT
Geniasis
16-04-2008, 16:28
Kirch has already stated that the entirety of his knowledge of the U.S. is based on Hollywood movies he's seen.

And even that isn't always standard in movies. So even that research is kinda halfassed.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
16-04-2008, 16:29
Kirch has already stated that the entirety of his knowledge of the U.S. is based on Hollywood movies he's seen.

Well... my first formal partner was American (and I say was because I hope he's rotting in hell), and he told me that, the only reason why he never dated American women was because he considered them whores. If that's true, well, that's another thing. Oh, and before someone jumps on me and starts insulting me, I'm not the one saying American women are whores.;)
Marrakech II
16-04-2008, 16:29
Kirch has already stated that the entirety of his knowledge of the U.S. is based on Hollywood movies he's seen.

Him and and about 4 billion other people.
Marrakech II
16-04-2008, 16:32
Well... my first formal partner was American (and I say was because I hope he's rotting in hell), and he told me that, the only reason why he never dated American women was because he considered them whores. If that's true, well, that's another thing. Oh, and before someone jumps on me and starts insulting me, I'm not the one saying American women are whores.;)


They are not whores for the most part. Women are about the same all over the world. The only differences are how they are raised. The core needs and wants are about the same.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
16-04-2008, 16:36
They are not whores for the most part. Women are about the same all over the world. The only differences are how they are raised. The core needs and wants are about the same.

When I lived in the US I do have to say that girls over there are exposed to so much, it's no wonder some of them turn to do things others might consider slutty. I saw many college girls act cheap, but acting cheap doesn't necessarily imply being a whore. Even so, the way they're brought up over there is very different from the way they're brought up over here, in Spain. Family life over here is abismaly different from family life in the US. Americans live far too fast for their own good.
Bottle
16-04-2008, 16:40
Well... my first formal partner was American (and I say was because I hope he's rotting in hell), and he told me that, the only reason why he never dated American women was because he considered them whores. If that's true, well, that's another thing. Oh, and before someone jumps on me and starts insulting me, I'm not the one saying American women are whores.;)
The problem here is the issue of translation.

When an American male says that a woman is a "whore," this does not actually mean "prostitute" or "woman who accepts money in exchange for sexual favors." Rather, "whore" is translated as, "woman who was unwilling to sleep with me even though I pretended to be nice to her for like 5 whole minutes."
Nanatsu no Tsuki
16-04-2008, 16:44
The problem here is the issue of translation.

When an American male says that a woman is a "whore," this does not actually mean "prostitute" or "woman who accepts money in exchange for sexual favors." Rather, "whore" is translated as, "woman who was unwilling to sleep with me even though I pretended to be nice to her for like 5 whole minutes."

Oh, I understand that. But I know that in my ex's case, he meant whore to be literally that. To him, all American women were cheap and willing to sleep with men only for money. A stupid thing because that would've meant his mother, step-mother, sister-in-law and even his niece were to be considered whores. He tended to generalize too much and that brought him a lot of problems.
Geniasis
16-04-2008, 16:51
Oh, I understand that. But I know that in my ex's case, he meant whore to be literally that. To him, all American women were cheap and willing to sleep with men only for money. A stupid thing because that would've meant his mother, step-mother, sister-in-law and even his niece were to be considered whores. He tended to generalize too much and that brought him a lot of problems.

He sounds like kind of a douche. And by kind of, I mean totally.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
16-04-2008, 16:53
He sounds like kind of a douche. And by kind of, I mean totally.

Oh, he is a douche. He's such a douche I hope he explodes. He is an asshole.
Dyakovo
16-04-2008, 16:54
He sounds like kind of a douche. And by kind of, I mean totally.

He's probably left-handed on top of it all. :D
:p
Geniasis
16-04-2008, 16:56
He's probably left-handed on top of it all. :D
:p

Probably. Everyone has at least one redeeming quality. :p
Dyakovo
16-04-2008, 17:03
Probably. Everyone has at least one redeeming quality. :p

:D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
16-04-2008, 17:40
Probably. Everyone has at least one redeeming quality. :p

http://www.xoospace.com/myspace/graphics/19667.gif
Not that f*cker.
DaWoad
17-04-2008, 03:58
You havent met many american women from the big cities have you?
they are greedy as ****
"buy me this!". "buy me that!",
"what, you wont buy it, dont you love me?"


As for relationships, i stick to the tried and true 1-man+1-Woman
simple, effective, and can lead to marriage without problem as long as you
play the give and take theme to keep the relationship in a state of both guy and girl being equal:fluffle:

1-man+1-Woman=?
-1(-1+man-1+woman)= -1(-1+X-1+Y)
=-1(X+Y-2)
D
Dt=-1-1
=</3
heheheheheheh oh god . . .i can;t believe I took a derivative (badly too btw) out of class
Snafturi
17-04-2008, 04:23
you do acquire lots of rather riskay photos though ;) (you should post these so that significant other can view them online)
Yes, yes you do. Post them here? Well, that would be a rather unique SBM.

I am honestly amazed and happily surprised that your relationship is working out so well. I'm happy for yah.

As for my opinion, I think relationships are worth the time. The key is to find someone you can really connect with. That's, unfortunately, a lot harder than people might realize at first...
Thanks! :) It's been one hell of an adventure, and continues to be!


Wrong lesson. It was probably your resolute manner, your acceptance of your fate, whatever it might be. Not that you had simply quit or given up, but you had changed your mindset so that it was less needy and more at peace with yourself.
I'd say that's accuate. It's funny, I was truly happy being single when I found my current relationship. I was looking at my friends and their relationships- and they are all in good relationships- and thinking to myself "what I have is pretty freaking awesome." I think that mindset gives you a healthier outlook on potential boyfriends/girlfriends. When you are happy being single, you are a little more picky on who you'll give up your singleness for.


The problem here is the issue of translation.

When an American male says that a woman is a "whore," this does not actually mean "prostitute" or "woman who accepts money in exchange for sexual favors." Rather, "whore" is translated as, "woman who was unwilling to sleep with me even though I pretended to be nice to her for like 5 whole minutes."
Everyone knows a bitch is only in it for the money!:p
Ryadn
17-04-2008, 04:36
Rather, "whore" is translated as, "woman who was unwilling to sleep with me even though I pretended to be nice to her for like 5 whole minutes."

QFT. Used interchangeably with "dyke".
Saxnot
17-04-2008, 08:50
Well, NSG, are relationships a complete and utter waste of time, or should one be pursuing it like the hunt?

I tend to let relationships fall in my lap. And I'm in a great one. :D