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In views of Ben Stein's controversial film, for some, and because Grave_n_Idle's thread seems to be veering that direction, let us discuss Darwin's Theories of Evolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism

Make me proud, Generalites!!

but not even modern science agrees with Darwin :confused:

but not even modern science agrees with Darwin :confused:

That is precisely why I want you to discuss.;)
Tell me, in which aspects does modern science disagrees with Darwinism?

It might be better to link to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_evolutionary_synthesis)article instead the one in your OP, it's more about modern views on evolution. Darwin's views weren't very complete since they didn't include genetics etc because those fields weren't researched yet.

I don't know what more to say about this, it's like debating the theory of relativity or something, what is there to say about a scientific theory?

Edit: This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought#Since_the_1960s:)might be interesting too for your OP.

Tell me, in which aspects does modern science disagrees with Darwinism?

though I do enjoy Darwin's sound (http://youtube.com/watch?v=spWfcFFxym0) I much prefer science (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=100583871)

You are all forgetting one thing.

Darwin was a tortoise fucker.

Now, just because science, when it discovers new information, improves its models so that those who did groundbreaking work will eventually have their ideas further shaped and reshaped in light of new knowledge, that doesn't mean we should listen to a man who sodomized turtles.

Get a bible, read it, live it.

You are all forgetting one thing.

Darwin was a tortoise fucker.

Now, just because science, when it discovers new information, improves its models so that those who did groundbreaking work will eventually have their ideas further shaped and reshaped in light of new knowledge, that doesn't mean we should listen to a man who sodomized turtles.

Get a bible, read it, live it.

Bible thumper, hello there! We're not discussing hocus-pocus, we're discussing Darwinism and modern science. If you can stick to the topic, welcome. If you can't, tough luck.;)

That is precisely why I want you to discuss.;)
Tell me, in which aspects does modern science disagrees with Darwinism?

The interpretation of the "survival of the fittest" idea and the manner in which traits are passed on between generations (Darwin did not know about genetics, DNA and so on) are two examples that come to mind.

However, any basic biology book should deal with more ;)

Bible thumper, hello there! We're not discussing hocus-pocus, we're discussing Darwinism and modern science. If you can stick to the topic, welcome. If you can't, tough luck.;)

It's Jhahannam. From what I can tell, he lampoons everything. Best to just let him do his magic.

You are all forgetting one thing.

Darwin was a tortoise fucker.

Now, just because science, when it discovers new information, improves its models so that those who did groundbreaking work will eventually have their ideas further shaped and reshaped in light of new knowledge, that doesn't mean we should listen to a man who sodomized turtles.

Get a bible, read it, live it.

Does it matter which Bible? After the religious evolutionary process there are half a dozen different bibles currently surviving and probably at least half a dozen extinct bibles out there. :cool:

It's Jhahannam. From what I can tell, he lampoons everything. Best to just let him do his magic.

If you think it'll work something, you're the boss.

If you can stick to the topic, welcome. If you can't, tough luck.;)

Optimism alert!

Optimism alert!

:eek:
Where?

Does it matter which Bible? After the religious evolutionary process there are half a dozen different bibles currently surviving and probably at least half a dozen extinct bibles out there. :cool:

Plus, technically, doesn't the word Bible just mean book anyway?

Plus, technically, doesn't the word Bible just mean book anyway?

I just read Gravlen's quote on your sig and I can't stop laughing.:D

Bible thumper, hello there! We're not discussing hocus-pocus, we're discussing Darwinism and modern science. If you can stick to the topic, welcome. If you can't, tough luck.;)

Your glib, just glib, and you're forgetting the facts.

As has been pointed out, modern science is not in total agreement with Darwin, and its not like introducing a new and extraordinary model of biological development should be allowed a few flaws in light of the absence of total and pervasive data.

If that were true, we'd have to respect Thompson et al, whose early work on particle theory, while imperfect, allowed for further experimentation that in turn allowed various models to be refined and improved. Is that the world you want to live in?

You don't know the history of science, I do. If you allow scientists to explore hair brained ideas just because its part of an overall process that has allowed inexorable progress and penetration into the nature of a beautiful existence, what will that lead to?

Nothing but a growing, fertile body of knowledge yielding life-saving and world changing applications even though Science only asymptotically approaches truth.

And guess what? THAT ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE.

At least I'm not thumping the Satanic Bible.

It's Jhahannam. From what I can tell, he lampoons everything. Best to just let him do his magic.

Magic is scripturally forbidden, and I don't appreciate the accusation. I can and should be stoned for just the PREMISE that I would engage in sorcery.

You are all forgetting one thing.

Darwin was a tortoise fucker.

Now, just because science, when it discovers new information, improves its models so that those who did groundbreaking work will eventually have their ideas further shaped and reshaped in light of new knowledge, that doesn't mean we should listen to a man who sodomized turtles.

Get a bible, read it, live it.

That makes me love Darwin just a little more. At least I can empathise with him now.

On a more serious note, could somebody explain how echolocation evolved? I think Dawkins may have explained it in one of his recent books, but I haven't had time to look it up. Does someone have a link or something?

Magic is scripturally forbidden, and I don't appreciate the accusation. I can and should be stoned for just the PREMISE that I would engage in sorcery.

oh my God, what is wrong with you?:D:D:D
please stop posting, you're killing me.

Does it matter which Bible? After the religious evolutionary process there are half a dozen different bibles currently surviving and probably at least half a dozen extinct bibles out there. :cool:

There is one bible, the one God wrote with the assistance of God fearing people.

The extinct bibles are extinct because they had a rare, heterozygous recessive verse that resulted in them bursting into flames if you applied original thought. Its called natural literary selection, look it up.

Your glib, just glib, and you're forgetting the facts.

As has been pointed out, modern science is not in total agreement with Darwin, and its not like introducing a new and extraordinary model of biological development should be allowed a few flaws in light of the absence of total and pervasive data.

If that were true, we'd have to respect Thompson et al, whose early work on particle theory, while imperfect, allowed for further experimentation that in turn allowed various models to be refined and improved. Is that the world you want to live in?

You don't know the history of science, I do. If you allow scientists to explore hair brained ideas just because its part of an overall process that has allowed inexorable progress and penetration into the nature of a beautiful existence, what will that lead to?

Nothing but a growing, fertile body of knowledge yielding life-saving and world changing applications even though Science only asymptotically approaches truth.

And guess what? THAT ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE.

At least I'm not thumping the Satanic Bible.

I'm not thumping on anything. You calling me a Stanic just shows how ingrained religious ideals are in that mess of a head of yours. I don't care one wit about wether you're all knowing about the history of science. Your assertion tells me otherwise. No one's preaching, leave that to twisted minister and pederast priests. I opened it so 'normal' people could discuss Darwinism and modern science. If you can't do that, don't even bother posting. There are other threads on NSG where you can vent about Satan, the Bible and religion. This is not it, little man.

If you think it'll work something, you're the boss.

Okay, A) God is the boss and in his absence (omnipresence aside), he left Stephen Baldwin in charge

and B) Since your apt and piercing examination of my first post led you to the understanding that I am a Bible Thumper, you are the only worthy adversary for me here, so I'll do you a kindness and illustrate the major flaw in your whole life philosophy:

IT ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

Plus, technically, doesn't the word Bible just mean book anyway?

Biblos is the Greek for 'book'.

You are all forgetting one thing.

Darwin was a tortoise fucker.

Now, just because science, when it discovers new information, improves its models so that those who did groundbreaking work will eventually have their ideas further shaped and reshaped in light of new knowledge, that doesn't mean we should listen to a man who sodomized turtles.

Get a bible, read it, live it.

I wish I could sig this entire post. :p

I'm not thumping on anything. You calling me a Stanic just shows how ingrained religious ideals are in that mess of a head of yours. I don't care one wit about wether you're all knowing about the history of science. Your assertion tells me otherwise. No one's preaching, leave that to twisted minister and pederast priests. I opened it so 'normal' people could discuss Darwinism and modern science. If you can't do that, don't even bother posting. There are other threads on NSG where you can vent about Satan, the Bible and religion. This is not it, little man.

Your thorough and perceptive comprehension of my posts are a clear sign that your own head is untrammeled...just get a little Jesus in there and you can join the thinking subset of humanity!

"Normality" is just banality. After all, what will these "normals" contribute to the discourse here?

Meaningful and well versed examinations of the way Darwin's introduction of a profound idea has allowed entire branches of science to blossom and cross polinate? Worthless. Just because everything from microbial pathology to pre-natal care has benefited from the expansion of refinement of his ideas over the decades does not mean we should tolerate a tortoise raper.

ITS NOT BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

Okay, A) God is the boss and in his absence (omnipresence aside), he left Stephen Baldwin in charge

and B) Since your apt and piercing examination of my first post led you to the understanding that I am a Bible Thumper, you are the only worthy adversary for me here, so I'll do you a kindness and illustrate the major flaw in your whole life philosophy:

IT ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!
Are you being serious, or just joking around a bit? I'm really a bit confused here.

I just read Gravlen's quote on your sig and I can't stop laughing.:D

Hence my quoting it. It's part of what makes Gravlen so awesome.

Magic is scripturally forbidden, and I don't appreciate the accusation. I can and should be stoned for just the PREMISE that I would engage in sorcery.

Well, since you're on NSG, you're sure to find someone who'll give you a joint. Just don't ask me for it.

Okay, A) God is the boss and in his absence (omnipresence aside), he left Stephen Baldwin in charge

and B) Since your apt and piercing examination of my first post led you to the understanding that I am a Bible Thumper, you are the only worthy adversary for me here, so I'll do you a kindness and illustrate the major flaw in your whole life philosophy:

IT ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

:rolleyes:
You're so misguided. My life philosophy? Give me a break, MOther Theresa. You don't know me, and I thank the gods you don't. You're honestly flawed, in every single way and for that matter, what can I say, I'm an elitist, you're not worthy of my time. So, do yourself a favor and shut up. Ciao!

Biblos is the Greek for 'book'.

Oooh.

I had the right idea at least, in terms of the word origins.

:rolleyes:
You're so misguided. My life philosophy? Give me a break, MOther Theresa. You don't know me, and I thank the gods you don't. You're honestly flawed, in every single way and for that matter, what can I say, I'm an elitist, you're not worthy of my time. So, do yourself a favor and shut up. Ciao!

Your anger, so safely couched in what was obvious a careful examination of what I actually said, is justified.

Now that you're angry, you're close to getting into heaven! Just be angry at gays and people that believe in evolutionary biology!

Yes, I must admit, you are irrefutably elite, and by so astutely grasping every part of my posts, you can certainly say without fear of embarassment that I am flawed in every single way.

But I still win, because what you're saying...

ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

Are you being serious, or just joking around a bit? I'm really a bit confused here.

What is there to be confused about? You can choose to believe the inerrant Word of God, or you can put your trust in an itinerant tortoise rapist. Spread the word Brother Jhahannam!

Your thorough and perceptive comprehension of my posts are a clear sign that your own head is untrammeled...just get a little Jesus in there and you can join the thinking subset of humanity!

"Normality" is just banality. After all, what will these "normals" contribute to the discourse here?

Meaningful and well versed examinations of the way Darwin's introduction of a profound idea has allowed entire branches of science to blossom and cross polinate? Worthless. Just because everything from microbial pathology to pre-natal care has benefited from the expansion of refinement of his ideas over the decades does not mean we should tolerate a tortoise raper.

ITS NOT BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

ROFLMAO! You're a troll. Yup, that's what you are. And trolls are insignificant, dear. Plus, Jesus hates them. You're essentially the reason why churches like Westboro Baptist Church and others are so hated. You, my friend, with your views that only spout venom are the main reason why so many loath religion.
In other words:
Your life philosophy...
IT'S NOT BIBLE NOR REALITY BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

Are you being serious, or just joking around a bit? I'm really a bit confused here.

SHH! Dude, I usually don't catch one this easily, and they're REALLY riled up. If you hint, they might start really reading my posts instead of just responding angrily and pretending they really understood it.

No one escapes the Spanish Inquisition! (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mKxnaMeOK20)
Jhahannam is joking about don't worry about him.

According to the Bible, pie flinging is one of man's holiest activities and being struck by a pie will grant one passage into the Kingdom of Heaven. *nod*





















*hides magic marker*

SHH! Dude, I usually don't catch one this easily, and they're REALLY riled up. If you hint, they might start really reading my posts instead of just responding angrily and pretending they really understood it.

Ah, the Stephen Baldwin reference. I recognize only one true Pie-god and clown here, and that's LG. Others, like you sir, are cheap pie wielding imitations.;)

Sorry, you angered me. Best if I ignore your remarks from now on. Ta-ta, darling!

ROFLMAO! You're a troll. Yup, that's what you are. And trolls are insignificant, dear. Plus, Jesus hates them. You're essentially the reason why churches like Westboro Baptist Church and others are so hated. You, my friend, with your views that only spout venom are the main reason why so many loath religion.
In other words:
Your life philosophy...
IT'S NOT BIBLE NOR REALITY BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

I have to agree with you there, because naturally Phelps and Family over at Westboro would certainly agree with my actual observations about the merits of Darwin and the wealth of improvements and extrapolations on his work over the years.

Totally. And I'm pleased, as punch, as peaches, that you are so able to realize with your unerring analysis that my genuine outlook is so authentically comprable to my fellow fundamentalists.

I might be hated here on NSG, but I will continue what I'm doing, because its the truth.

Your apologetics for a shell-schtupper reveals your real nature, just like your comments show how well you've manage to actually read my posts!

REALITY DOESN"T MATTER! ITS NOT BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

Awww now I feel bad for screwing up your funny looking conversation :p But think about this, Jhahannam is joking a bit (and apperantly fooled some of you), but I had discussions with people who really thought those things. And it's scary, really scary.

What is there to be confused about? You can choose to believe the inerrant Word of God, or you can put your trust in an itinerant tortoise rapist. Spread the word Brother Jhahannam!

Damn right.

Obviously, none of these people have ever been to a support group for abused torti.

They lay there, chew grass, occasionally grunt...their pain is unbearable.

Damn right.

Obviously, none of these people have ever been to a support group for abused torti.

They lay there, chew grass, occasionally grunt...their pain is unbearable.

:eek:


*discreetly removes turtle from pants*


way to spoil the mood....

Damn right.

Obviously, none of these people have ever been to a support group for abused torti.

They lay there, chew grass, occasionally grunt...their pain is unbearable.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128344054147187500muncheiz1.jpg

According to the Bible, pie flinging is one of man's holiest activities and being struck by a pie will grant one passage into the Kingdom of Heaven. *nod*


Your pie flinging, dependent as it is on the cross-sectional aerodynamics of a pie, not to mention the gyroscopic stabilization that you achieve by homogenizing the inertial momenta of your ballistic deserts, has one fatal flaw:

ITS NOT BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

There is one bible, the one God wrote with the assistance of God fearing people.

The extinct bibles are extinct because they had a rare, heterozygous recessive verse that resulted in them bursting into flames if you applied original thought. Its called natural literary selection, look it up.

Well then everyone on Earth must be a bunch of heathen sinners because the Bibles everyone currently uses were written by man, regardless of any divine inspiration behind their creation, not any god.

As for original thought... Dude, this is religion. The process that kept man in the dark ages for over a millenia. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Original thought is a sin in many religions, especially caucasian religions and most especially those dealing with Christianity.

The fact that you pondered them spontaneously bursting into flames indicates to me that you are capable of original thought and are therefore a sinner which in turn indicates that you are trolling, or at least using a dump truck worth of sarcasm and humor. :cool:

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128344054147187500muncheiz1.jpg

Oh, man...the turtle even has its mouth open in a silent plea for sympathy...

I guess eating takes away the pain, hehe!

Your pie flinging, dependent as it is on the cross-sectional aerodynamics of a pie, not to mention the gyroscopic stabilization that you achieve by homogenizing the inertial momenta of your ballistic deserts, has one fatal flaw:

ITS NOT BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE!

On the contrary, God directs my pies.

*hides calculations*

Well then everyone on Earth must be a bunch of heathen sinners because the Bibles everyone currently uses were written by man, regardless of any divine inspiration behind their creation, not any god.

As for original thought... Dude, this is religion. The process that kept man in the dark ages for over a millenia. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Original thought is a sin in many religions, especially caucasian religions and most especially those dealing with Christianity.

The fact that you pondered them spontaneously bursting into flames indicates to me that you are capable of original thought and are therefore a sinner which in turn indicates that you are trolling, or at least using a dump truck worth of sarcasm and humor. :cool:

See, don't say things like that. If Jesus thinks I'm being sarcastic, he won't let me into heaven were I can be away from all those gay guys checking me out on the other thread.

Anyway, I have a real Bible. The Jesus quotes are in red, because Lunatic Goofballs gave him the same red crayon that I used to draw lipstick on Duke so that Scarlett and Lady J wouldn't be lonely.

Awww now I feel bad for screwing up your funny looking conversation :p But think about this, Jhahannam is joking a bit (and apperantly fooled some of you), but I had discussions with people who really thought those things. And it's scary, really scary.

I watched an interview between an Australian reporter and the head of the Westboro Baptist church about Heath Ledger's death and his words chilled me. I couldn't believe the level of inhumanity and hate on his speech and the way he talked to that reporter. He was a dick. I may not be a Christian but I sure as hell know that a true follower of Jesus's teachings would never spout such venom as that man did.

Nah, I realized Mr. Jhahannam was joking after his Stephen Baldwin reference. It was either a joke or there's a cult that hails Stephen Baldwin. I veerd towards the first.:D

Damn right.

Obviously, none of these people have ever been to a support group for abused torti.

They lay there, chew grass, occasionally grunt...their pain is unbearable.

It's a horrible sight.

Still, at least some of them can, after years of care and support, return to their normal lives of lying around, chewing grass and occasionally grunting.

*wipes away a tear*

Well then everyone on Earth must be a bunch of heathen sinners because the Bibles everyone currently uses were written by man, regardless of any divine inspiration behind their creation, not any god.

As for original thought... Dude, this is religion. The process that kept man in the dark ages for over a millenia. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Original thought is a sin in many religions, especially caucasian religions and most especially those dealing with Christianity.

The fact that you pondered them spontaneously bursting into flames indicates to me that you are capable of original thought and are therefore a sinner which in turn indicates that you are trolling, or at least using a dump truck worth of sarcasm and humor. :cool:

Actually, that's not quite the case. Take a good look at history. Religion itself was never really the problem so much as it was people in power using religion to keep the masses ignorant.

Religion itself is fine and dandy. I think it's a little silly myself, but hey, if people want to believe that stuff, that's fine.

The problem comes when people use it as a reason to hold people in ignorance or to abandon scientific research, and in that sense religion is just simply the most used reason.

Take religion away, and people will simply find a new reason, a new thing to use for the same purpose. Religion is a tool, not the problem itself.

On the contrary, God directs my pies.

*hides calculations*

Jesus is frequently referred to as 'casting out' demons and moneylenders. The Greek word is ekballo, which is formed from the prefix ek- meaning 'out of, away' and the verb ballo which means 'to throw, to cast'.

I therefore conclude, after literally minutes of careful study and exegesis, that all instances in which Jesus is referred to as 'casting out' should be taken to refer to him throwing something away from him, probably pies. Since 'casting out' is one of the duties he charged his apostles with, it seems clear that pie flinging isn't just acceptable, it's mandatory for all Real ChristiansTM.

*nods* :)

Firstly:
Damn, I tried to post a post about Expelled from Ben Stein in 2 topics about 4times now, and it wouldn't pop up! Would that be because I included a picture in the post?
Second:


]I watched an interview between an Australian reporter and the head of the Westboro Baptist church about Heath Ledger's death and his words chilled me. I couldn't believe the level of inhumanity and hate on his speech and the way he talked to that reporter. He was a dick. I may not be a Christian but I sure as hell know that a true follower of Jesus's teachings would never spout such venom as that man did.

Nah, I realized Mr. Jhahannam was joking after his Stephen Baldwin reference. It was either a joke or there's a cult that hails Stephen Baldwin. I veerd towards the first.
Indeed, those folks are.....scary. The worst is, from a logical point of view you can't exclude them from being the true following. I've seen 1 of them at some random talk show, she sad herself that she doesn't hate gays, she loves gays (she loves everyone) and she simply wants to protect the gays from the wrath of God (according to them, He's the one who hates gays). According to them, they're very loving people who are just trying to help and protect people. Truly odd. But sadly, if you really view it from a logical point of view, the only difference there views have with the views of millions or even billions of people, is that they're incredibly hate-bearing. It's a strange world.

Jesus is frequently referred to as 'casting out'. The Greek word is ekballo, which is formed from the prefix ek- meaning 'out of, away' and the verb ballo which means 'to throw, to cast'.

I therefore conclude, after literally minutes of careful study and exegesis, that all instances in which Jesus is referred to as 'casting out' should be taken to refer to him throwing something away from him, probably pies. Since 'casting out' is one of the duties he charged his apostles with, it seems clear that pie flinging isn't just acceptable, it's mandatory for all Real ChristiansTM.

*nods* :)

:eek:
Does that mean that LG was cast away by Jesus?
How cruel.:(
*sniffs a bit*

I watched an interview between an Australian reporter and the head of the Westboro Baptist church about Heath Ledger's death and his words chilled me. I couldn't believe the level of inhumanity and hate on his speech and the way he talked to that reporter. He was a dick. I may not be a Christian but I sure as hell know that a true follower of Jesus's teachings would never spout such venom as that man did.

Nah, I realized Mr. Jhahannam was joking after his Stephen Baldwin reference. It was either a joke or there's a cult that hails Stephen Baldwin. I veerd towards the first.:D

Damn, kidding aside, how big of a twit must Stephen Baldwin be when, all my bullshit aside, as soon as I mention him, everybody figures "Shit, even this raging prick can't really think Stephen Baldwin is cool"...

Wow, poor Stephen...from being next to the brilliance of "Usual Suspects" to being such a tool, even the trolls are assumed to know better...

:eek:
Does that mean that LG was cast away by Jesus?
How cruel.:(
*sniffs a bit*

Yep. His casting hit me right in the face. Rhubarb. Very nice. :)

Firstly:
Damn, I tried to post a post about Expelled from Ben Stein in 2 topics about 4times now, and it wouldn't pop up! Would that be because I included a picture in the post?

New members have to wait a certain amount of time between their first ten posts. To avoid people joining and spamming.

Damn, kidding aside, how big of a twit must Stephen Baldwin be when, all my bullshit aside, as soon as I mention him, everybody figures "Shit, even this raging prick can't really think Stephen Baldwin is cool"...

Wow, poor Stephen...from being next to the brilliance of "Usual Suspects" to being such a tool, even the trolls are assumed to know better...

*can't stop laughing and therefore, can't post coherent thoughts*

:eek:
Does that mean that LG was cast away by Jesus?
How cruel.:(
*sniffs a bit*

I think its more like, Jesus throws LG at people so that when LG throws his pie, the combined reference frames allow for more relative velocity to be experience by the target, such that 0.5MV^2 recognizes velocity as the greater factor in overall kinetic energy.

So, Jesus can either give LG a bigger pie, or he can heave him like an achondroplasiatic with big shoes and red nose, approaching sinners so fast that the nose appear chartreuse rather than red.

New members have to wait a certain amount of time between their first ten posts. To avoid people joining and spamming.
Well I could post these posts pretty quikly, it's just that single post didn't want to pop up. It sad something about an administrator having to let the post through. I hope there won't be 4 of the same posts poof in a thread. Wouldn't really be nice for my opcoming reputation ;)

*can't stop laughing and therefore, can't post coherent thoughts*

Seriously, how pitious is it for the guy that, in a thread that's already conjured Fred Phelps and Westboro Baptist, its Stephen Baldwin that punctures my balloon of absurdity with his stark idiocy?

And he has a real ministry, I've heard, based on "Extreme Sports" or something...

Jesus Christ with a dead hooker in his trunk, that's just sad...

Jesus is frequently referred to as 'casting out' demons and moneylenders. The Greek word is ekballo, which is formed from the prefix ek- meaning 'out of, away' and the verb ballo which means 'to throw, to cast'.

I therefore conclude, after literally minutes of careful study and exegesis, that all instances in which Jesus is referred to as 'casting out' should be taken to refer to him throwing something away from him, probably pies. Since 'casting out' is one of the duties he charged his apostles with, it seems clear that pie flinging isn't just acceptable, it's mandatory for all Real ChristiansTM.

*nods* :)

It's also worth noting that the Gospel of John concludes by saying that Jesus did much (note 'did', not 'said') which wasn't written down, so there's no reason why he couldn't have thrown pies at people, and mounting evidence that he did. Other hints of clownery include 'baptism in water' (doesn't that sound like a surprise water-bomb/super-soaker/hose-pipe attack to you?) and his habit of making balloon animals*.

*some so-called 'experts' have questioned the evidence for this claim, but it's all opinion really.

I think its more like, Jesus throws LG at people so that when LG throws his pie, the combined reference frames allow for more relative velocity to be experience by the target, such that 0.5MV^2 recognizes velocity as the greater factor in overall kinetic energy.

So, Jesus can either give LG a bigger pie, or he can heave him like an achondroplasiatic with big shoes and red nose, approaching sinners so fast that the nose appear chartreuse rather than red.

ROFLMFAO!!!!

I think its more like, Jesus throws LG at people so that when LG throws his pie, the combined reference frames allow for more relative velocity to be experience by the target, such that 0.5MV^2 recognizes velocity as the greater factor in overall kinetic energy.

So, Jesus can either give LG a bigger pie, or he can heave him like an achondroplasiatic with big shoes and red nose, approaching sinners so fast that the nose appear chartreuse rather than red.

In accordance to Einstein's Theory of Pieativity. *nod*

Man what happened to all the creationists. We used to have a bunch of them.

In accordance to Einstein's Theory of Pieativity. *nod*

It's like, LG Holy Pie Bombs or something.
*takes a deep breath*
I can finally express myself coherently. Even my boss came to check on me and, after reading Jhahannam's post, started laughing hysterically too.

Man what happened to all the creationists. We used to have a bunch of them.

Sooner or later, the weasels get them. *nod*

It's like, LG Holy Pie Bombs or something.
*takes a deep breath*
I can finally express myself coherently. Even my boss came to check on me and, after reading Jhahannam's post, started laughing hysterically too.

Your Boss --> http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/pie.gif <-- Me.

Your Boss --> http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/pie.gif <-- Me.

LOL!

On a more serious note, could somebody explain how echolocation evolved? I think Dawkins may have explained it in one of his recent books, but I haven't had time to look it up. Does someone have a link or something?

This (http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/2008/02/first_flight_then_radar.php)is a relevant article from a funny site. Other than that I think the evolution of echolocation was pretty straightforward. There are blind humans who can do it (although not as good as bats). If you live in the dark it's a great tool for survival, if you're good at it you get naturally selected etc. (at least that is how I think it went, I'm not sure at all, but it seems pretty logical)

Man what happened to all the creationists. We used to have a bunch of them.

They evolved.

This (http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/2008/02/first_flight_then_radar.php)is a relevant article from a funny site. Other than that I think the evolution of echolocation was pretty straightforward. There are blind humans who can do it (although not as good as bats). If you live in the dark it's a great tool for survival, if you're good at it you get naturally selected etc. (at least that is how I think it went, I'm not sure at all, but it seems pretty logical)



They evolved.

After much hilarity, I thank Isidoor for bringing us back to the topic at hand.

Now, on the theory of evolution, does anyone here think that wisdom teeth are already useless? I had to have them removed a few years ago. What do you think they were good for and why is that now, seemingly, we no longer seem to need them?

After much hilarity, I thank Isidoor for bringing us back to the topic at hand. Now, on the theory of evolution, does anyone here think that wisdom teeth are already useless? I had to have them removed a few years ago. What do you think they were good for and why is that now, seemingly, we no longer seem to need them?

Nothing evolves for a reason. You could say mutations are random (the results aren't really random of course). The traits generated by certain mutations can have harmful, neutral and beneficial effects on your reproductive capabilities (this is a broad term of course)

If the mutation harms your fitness you will probably be competed out (the mutation probably won't stay in the population). If it is a helpful trait in your environment you will probably have comparably more children and the mutation will proportionally increase throughout the population. If its a neutral mutation (like I think wisdom teeth are, although I'm not 100% sure) it doesn't really effect the evolution of a certain species.

I think, I'm not an expert in this matter.

:rolleyes:
You're so misguided. My life philosophy? Give me a break, MOther Theresa. You don't know me, and I thank the gods you don't. You're honestly flawed, in every single way and for that matter, what can I say, I'm an elitist, you're not worthy of my time. So, do yourself a favor and shut up. Ciao!

Just so you know Nanatsu, Jhahannam is very rarely serious in what he posts. His posts are usually nearly 100% satire.

Just so you know Nanatsu, Jhahannam is very rarely serious in what he posts. His posts are usually nearly 100% satire.

I'll have you know I have done entire threads where I was completely factual and overtly manifest in my meaning.

Whole threads! Whole, entire, very short threads!

You guys are going to miss me when Straughn's autoimmune system finally kills me and I cease to exist.

Just so you know Nanatsu, Jhahannam is very rarely serious in what he posts. His posts are usually nearly 100% satire.

Oh, no worries there, Dyakovo. I knew Mr. Jhahannam was joking as soon as Stephen Baldwin popped up on his argument. Right, Jha?;)

I'll have you know I have done entire threads where I was completely factual and overtly manifest in my meaning.

Whole threads! Whole, entire, very short threads!

True, it is the exception though...

You guys are going to miss me when Straughn's autoimmune system finally kills me and I cease to exist.

I don't think it's up to the task.

Oh, no worries there, Dyakovo. I knew Mr. Jhahannam was joking as soon as Stephen Baldwin popped up on his argument. Right, Jha?;)

I came into the thread late :(

I came into the thread late :(

*pats Dyakovochu on the head*
I know, but do try and check those arguments with Jha. They´re hilarious. Specially the one about LG being cast away from Jesus. That one had me and my boss roaring with laughter.;)

*pats Dyakovochu on the head*
I know, but do try and check those arguments with Jha. They´re hilarious. Specially the one about LG being cast away from Jesus. That one had me and my boss roaring with laughter.;)

I always read Jha's posts they're invariably infuriatingly hilarious.

I always read Jha's posts they're invariably infuriatingly hilarious.

They are. This was my first encounter with Jha and it was very hilarious.

They are. This was my first encounter with Jha and it was very hilarious.

My first encounter with Jha was even better, because even after several posters figured out that he was being satirical and pointed it out he still had other people convinced he was serious.
I think he gives up to quickly now :(

My first encounter with Jha was even better, because even after several posters figured out that he was being satirical and pointed it out he still had other people convinced he was serious.
I think he gives up to quickly now :(

Nah, it was that one of the new members blew his cover and posted about it.:D

Nah, it was that one of the new members blew his cover and posted about it.:D

Yeah, but that didn't used to stop him...

Yeah, but that didn't used to stop him...

Well then we need to provoke him into starting a thread where everyone can start arguing with him about some twisted posts of his. See how long he can go before someone realizes he´s been goofing off all along.

You are all forgetting one thing.

Darwin was a tortoise fucker.

Now, just because science, when it discovers new information, improves its models so that those who did groundbreaking work will eventually have their ideas further shaped and reshaped in light of new knowledge, that doesn't mean we should listen to a man who sodomized turtles.

Get a bible, read it, live it.

I love you. A lot.

I love you. A lot.

Oh, it gets better.

Oh, it gets better.

Ive seen him before. I know what he is capable of. Hes probably my favorite poster here. Because hes hilarious and at least 50% of the posters take him seriously.

Oh, no worries there, Dyakovo. I knew Mr. Jhahannam was joking as soon as Stephen Baldwin popped up on his argument. Right, Jha?;)

Well, to be fair to you, I was using all caps to draw the eye to the more egregious shit that people are naturally inclined to react to.

One time, though, I had Corneliu going for pages, without all caps or bolds, and he totally bought it even after multiple people explicitly exposed me. It was great.

Well, to be fair to you, I was using all caps to draw the eye to the more egregious shit that people are naturally inclined to react to.

One time, though, I had Corneliu going for pages, without all caps or bolds, and he totally bought it even after multiple people explicitly exposed me. It was great.

Exactly. That was the greatest posting ever.

I always read Jha's posts they're invariably infuriatingly hilarious.

I'm flattered, but soon so many people will know, I won't be able to get away with it anymore...

Then I'll be forced to attempt cogent debate, and my stock with you guys will fall like Ted Haggard's Colorado Springs Super Church the day after it broke he was buying meth from a gay prostitute.

It's also worth noting that the Gospel of John concludes by saying that Jesus did much (note 'did', not 'said') which wasn't written down, so there's no reason why he couldn't have thrown pies at people, and mounting evidence that he did. Other hints of clownery include 'baptism in water' (doesn't that sound like a surprise water-bomb/super-soaker/hose-pipe attack to you?) and his habit of making balloon animals*.

*some so-called 'experts' have questioned the evidence for this claim, but it's all opinion really.

Heehee, the imagery...

"My children, I will bring you the kingdom of my father...and this giraffe!"

Heehee, the imagery...

"My children, I will bring you the kingdom of my father...and this giraffe!"

:D

I'm flattered, but soon so many people will know, I won't be able to get away with it anymore...

Then I'll be forced to attempt cogent debate, and my stock with you guys will fall like Ted Haggard's Colorado Springs Super Church the day after it broke he was buying meth from a gay prostitute.

Best. Analogy. Ever.

I'm flattered, but soon so many people will know, I won't be able to get away with it anymore...

Then I'll be forced to attempt cogent debate, and my stock with you guys will fall like Ted Haggard's Colorado Springs Super Church the day after it broke he was buying meth from a gay prostitute.

Jha, this is an awesome reference for an OP. You should open a thread about it.;)

Does it matter which Bible? After the religious evolutionary process there are half a dozen different bibles currently surviving and probably at least half a dozen extinct bibles out there. :cool:

But nobody has ever discovered any transitional forms!

But nobody has ever discovered any transitional forms!

Except Raptor Jesus.:D

Your glib, just glib, and you're forgetting the facts.

As has been pointed out, modern science is not in total agreement with Darwin, and its not like introducing a new and extraordinary model of biological development should be allowed a few flaws in light of the absence of total and pervasive data.

If that were true, we'd have to respect Thompson et al, whose early work on particle theory, while imperfect, allowed for further experimentation that in turn allowed various models to be refined and improved. Is that the world you want to live in?

You don't know the history of science, I do. If you allow scientists to explore hair brained ideas just because its part of an overall process that has allowed inexorable progress and penetration into the nature of a beautiful existence, what will that lead to?

Nothing but a growing, fertile body of knowledge yielding life-saving and world changing applications even though Science only asymptotically approaches truth.

And guess what? THAT ISN"T BIBLE BASED AND IS THEREFORE FALSE.

At least I'm not thumping the Satanic Bible.

you dont wanna thump that thing its got spikes and such

dmn Jha . . . i think you might be messin with me too in another forum but i cant tell!!!!! this is killin me :(

It's also worth noting that the Gospel of John concludes by saying that Jesus did much (note 'did', not 'said') which wasn't written down, so there's no reason why he couldn't have thrown pies at people, and mounting evidence that he did. Other hints of clownery include 'baptism in water' (doesn't that sound like a surprise water-bomb/super-soaker/hose-pipe attack to you?) and his habit of making balloon animals*.

*some so-called 'experts' have questioned the evidence for this claim, but it's all opinion really.
The inimitable Rowan Atkinson (aka "Mr. Bean", "Black Adder"):
And the Lord did say unto the servants, "Fill up these jars with water", and the servants did fill up the jars with water. And the Lord did say unto the servants, "Now draw from the jars," and behold! It was wine.
And the servants were sore amazed, and clapped their hands, and cried out, "That was a good one, Lord! How didst thou do that?" But the Lord did change the subject, saying, "For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a house of cards. Pick ye a card, any card."
And they brought unto the Lord a man that was sick of the palsy, carried about on a stretcher, and said, "Lord, here is a man that is sick of the palsy."
And the Lord replied, "If thou hadst to be carried about all the time on a stretcher, thou shouldst be mighty sick of the palsy too."
And the servants were amazed, and said, "Lord, thy one-liners are as good as thy tricks! Dost thou do children's birthday parties?"
But the Lord replied, "Nay, indeed."

Now, on the theory of evolution, does anyone here think that wisdom teeth are already useless? I had to have them removed a few years ago. What do you think they were good for and why is that now, seemingly, we no longer seem to need them?

They're not really useless in so much as all teeth contribute to grinding and crushing your food. There is a general opinion however that they are less necessary due to both our ability now to break up food outside of the mouth, and our generally softer diet. As these both equate to less wear on the other teeth it means we can get by with few.

Still, the more teeth we have the better we are at the first stage of digestion. Although not a massive problem if we lose a few teeth, the best circumstance is to keep as many as possible.

There is actually quite an interesting discussion ongoing about wisdom teeth as a proof of evolution. A couple of new studies have tended against the previously accepted view that they are a proof. However, the discussion is in an early stage, and I can't remember who carried out the studies. I am desperately trying to find the studies online somewhere, can anyone help me with this. I haven't yet read them, only the reviews of them so would much like to take a closer look. Anyone have a link?

If I remember it rightly, it does not so much disprove a link to evolution, just cast doubt on some areas of the theory of how they evolved

They're not really useless in so much as all teeth contribute to grinding and crushing your food. There is a general opinion however that they are less necessary due to both our ability now to break up food outside of the mouth, and our generally softer diet. As these both equate to less wear on the other teeth it means we can get by with few.

Still, the more teeth we have the better we are at the first stage of digestion. Although not a massive problem if we lose a few teeth, the best circumstance is to keep as many as possible.

There is actually quite an interesting discussion ongoing about wisdom teeth as a proof of evolution. A couple of new studies have tended against the previously accepted view that they are a proof. However, the discussion is in an early stage, and I can't remember who carried out the studies. I am desperately trying to find the studies online somewhere, can anyone help me with this. I haven't yet read them, only the reviews of them so would much like to take a closer look. Anyone have a link?

If I remember it rightly, it does not so much disprove a link to evolution, just cast doubt on some areas of the theory of how they evolved

I see. Thanks for the clarification.;)

SHH! Dude, I usually don't catch one this easily, and they're REALLY riled up. If you hint, they might start really reading my posts instead of just responding angrily and pretending they really understood it.

All I can say is curse you... I really need to remeber need to read threads you're posting in when I'm in the office, the people I share with give me very strange looks when I burst out laughing.

I salute you dear Sir and your eloquant use of satire.