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Hmm...I don't recall ordering this...

Wilgrove
12-04-2008, 09:04
Ok, so today I got an e-mail from Men Health's (Men's Health (MensHealth@tmr3.com) however I never subscribed to them. I never got any of their magazine under my name (my dad reads them but his is under his name). Anyways, today I got two e-mails from Men Health demanding that I pay $25 for the 10 issues that they said they "Sent" me. I don't know if this is real, or if this is a phishing scam. They linked to a website, and you can see it here. (https://w1.buysub.com/pubs/RP/HLH/mh_outbound_form2.jsp?cds_page_id=36511&cds_mag_code=HLH&id=1207987418517&lsid=81030258148034290&vid=4&cds_fn=18175HLH18687H)

The e-mail says this.

Dear (Wilgrove),

As of today, we have not received payment for your subscription to Men's Health magazine. Please take a moment to pay your bill today.

Unless we receive your payment of $24.94 by the end of the month, we will be forced to suspend your subscription. It would be a shame for you to miss out on all the great information Men's Health has to offer.

To guarantee you won't miss out on the next issue, you can pay for your subscription online today. Just click here to view your statement now. If you've already sent your payment, please disregard this notice and accept our thanks.

Click the "MAKE A PAYMENT NOW" button below to submit your payment today!

Thanks,
Kimberly Draves
Men's Health

What do you guys think? Legit or Phishing?
Posi
12-04-2008, 09:10
Ok, so today I got an e-mail from Men Health's (Men's Health (MensHealth@tmr3.com) however I never subscribed to them. I never got any of their magazine under my name (my dad reads them but his is under his name). Anyways, today I got two e-mails from Men Health demanding that I pay $25 for the 10 issues that they said they "Sent" me. I don't know if this is real, or if this is a phishing scam. They linked to a website, and you can see it here. (https://w1.buysub.com/pubs/RP/HLH/mh_outbound_form2.jsp?cds_page_id=36511&cds_mag_code=HLH&id=1207987418517&lsid=81030258148034290&vid=4&cds_fn=18175HLH18687H)

The e-mail says this.



What do you guys think? Legit or Phishing?Its phishing you r-tard. First, Men's Health is going to try to contact you via telephone or snail mail first. Email lends itself to too much phishing opportunity and companies want to avoid that. Second, they are not going to try and collect money from you for 10 messily magazines. The amount owed won't even cover the cost of the time of employees used in extracting the funds from you. They would silently cancel your subscription and then bring up the 10 unpaid issues when you demand you reactivate you subscription.
Wilgrove
12-04-2008, 09:14
Its phishing you r-tard. First, Men's Health is going to try to contact you via telephone or snail mail first. Email lends itself to too much phishing opportunity and companies want to avoid that. Second, they are not going to try and collect money from you for 10 messily magazines. The amount owed won't even cover the cost of the time of employees used in extracting the funds from you. They would silently cancel your subscription and then bring up the 10 unpaid issues when you demand you reactivate you subscription.

Was that really called for, really?
Posi
12-04-2008, 09:17
Was that really called for, really?Probably not. I thought you of all people would be unoffended.
Wilgrove
12-04-2008, 09:19
Probably not. I thought you of all people would be unoffended.

I'm not, it's just seem kinda pointless. I only call people idiots, worthless, or "r-tards" when they actually do something stupid, like actually paying the $25 that the phisher wants. :p
DrunkenDove
12-04-2008, 09:21
The worst that can happen is that they'll stop sending you magazines that you don't want and didn't order. There's no need to pay even the slightest bit of notice to this whether it's legit or not.
Wilgrove
12-04-2008, 09:30
The worst that can happen is that they'll stop sending you magazines that you don't want and didn't order. There's no need to pay even the slightest bit of notice to this whether it's legit or not.

Well my main concern was my credit score, I need a good one to get a house nowanddays or to buy anything on credit.
Reeka
12-04-2008, 10:24
Well my main concern was my credit score, I need a good one to get a house nowanddays or to buy anything on credit.

Wait. Not updating a subscription to a magazine you never really subscribed to would hurt your credit? Really?

Besides, magazines usually come wrapped in a "Please renew now!" notice when they're mailed to you. Never an e-mail notice.
Call to power
12-04-2008, 12:02
I presume they want your bank details?;)

Well my main concern was my credit score, I need a good one to get a house nowanddays or to buy anything on credit.

please don't be one of those people

(my dad reads them but his is under his name)

I think this what I will be worrying about if you catch my drift:p
Philosopy
12-04-2008, 14:36
*Spams your email address*
Smunkeeville
12-04-2008, 14:59
Well my main concern was my credit score, I need a good one to get a house nowanddays or to buy anything on credit.

it's phishing but the very worst thing would be it would end up as deficient, and when you get your credit report for a mortgage you can call the collections agency and pay them $25. (or probably less! since they will have bought the debt for about $2)

I would ignore it. They would have sent you umpteen threatening letters if you actually owed them anything.
Ashmoria
12-04-2008, 15:05
you knew it was phishing before you posted this eh?

if you are worried about your credit rating, keep an eye on your credit report.

i heard a good suggestion on the radio the other day. you are allowed one free copy of your credit report each year from each credit reporting company. the caller said that what she did was to ask for a credit report every 4 months from a different company so she was always current and she never had to pay for it. its a good suggestion for a poor college student with good prospects for the future.
The Alma Mater
12-04-2008, 15:20
The intruiging part is that both the email and the website seem to be legit.

Nevertheless - better to just call them than to enter your credit card details on a website. If only to tell them you do not have a subscription. And if it is phishing, the good people of the real Mens Health would no doubt like to know of its existence.
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-04-2008, 16:21
Ok, so today I got an e-mail from Men Health's (Men's Health (MensHealth@tmr3.com) however I never subscribed to them. I never got any of their magazine under my name (my dad reads them but his is under his name). Anyways, today I got two e-mails from Men Health demanding that I pay $25 for the 10 issues that they said they "Sent" me. I don't know if this is real, or if this is a phishing scam. They linked to a website, and you can see it here. (https://w1.buysub.com/pubs/RP/HLH/mh_outbound_form2.jsp?cds_page_id=36511&cds_mag_code=HLH&id=1207987418517&lsid=81030258148034290&vid=4&cds_fn=18175HLH18687H)

The e-mail says this.



What do you guys think? Legit or Phishing?

Phishing! Delete without response.
Ashmoria
12-04-2008, 17:58
The intruiging part is that both the email and the website seem to be legit.

Nevertheless - better to just call them than to enter your credit card details on a website. If only to tell them you do not have a subscription. And if it is phishing, the good people of the real Mens Health would no doubt like to know of its existence.

if the email were legit it would have used wilgroves name and address.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
12-04-2008, 19:50
Ok, so today I got an e-mail from Men Health's (Men's Health (MensHealth@tmr3.com) however I never subscribed to them. I never got any of their magazine under my name (my dad reads them but his is under his name). Anyways, today I got two e-mails from Men Health demanding that I pay $25 for the 10 issues that they said they "Sent" me. I don't know if this is real, or if this is a phishing scam. They linked to a website, and you can see it here. (https://w1.buysub.com/pubs/RP/HLH/mh_outbound_form2.jsp?cds_page_id=36511&cds_mag_code=HLH&id=1207987418517&lsid=81030258148034290&vid=4&cds_fn=18175HLH18687H)

The e-mail says this.



What do you guys think? Legit or Phishing?

Stinks of phishing.
Sarkhaan
12-04-2008, 20:15
Ok, so today I got an e-mail from Men Health's (Men's Health (MensHealth@tmr3.com) however I never subscribed to them. I never got any of their magazine under my name (my dad reads them but his is under his name). Anyways, today I got two e-mails from Men Health demanding that I pay $25 for the 10 issues that they said they "Sent" me. I don't know if this is real, or if this is a phishing scam. They linked to a website, and you can see it here. (https://w1.buysub.com/pubs/RP/HLH/mh_outbound_form2.jsp?cds_page_id=36511&cds_mag_code=HLH&id=1207987418517&lsid=81030258148034290&vid=4&cds_fn=18175HLH18687H)

The e-mail says this.



What do you guys think? Legit or Phishing?
They aren't asking you to pay for magazines you already got...that isn't how subscriptions work. They would, if this were legit, have already gotten paid for the magazines delivered. Magazine subscriptions are handled in a "pay now, recieve later" system...not a credit one (get magazine now, pay later).


Also, the website it brings you to claims to be part of the Hearst corp., but Men's Health is published by Rodale Press
Mad hatters in jeans
12-04-2008, 20:48
Phishing, crisis averted.
Now lets talk about something interesting...like how it's possible to have armoured bears in the military.