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So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
C: I support gay marriage and equal rights for gays and lesbians. (Once again, weed out the Fundie Christians)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a cat person?
Q: What do you think of George W. Bush?
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
C: I hope to own and operate my own aircraft someday. (See if she'll let me having something this expensive.)
C: I'm a pilot and I go flying every weekend. (See if she'll be ok with this because I don't see any reason to change my flying time.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
C: I tend to have a set routine that I do everyday and somewhat on weekends. (I tend to stick to my routine, it's not often that I am spontaneous.)
Q: What kind of movies do you like? (common interest again.)
Q: What do you like to do for fun/What hobbies do you have? (again, common interest.)

So what kind of comments or questions do you guys ask on dates?

Spanish Inquisition much?

Good questions. One suggestion though: I'd include a break halfway through just to check she hasn't thrown herself out of a window in sheer terror.

Spanish Inquisition much?

I have learn that you need to weed out alot of people in order to find someone you'll be compatible with. It's like digging through a ton of cow manure to find the diamond. *nod*

Good questions. One suggestion though: I'd include a break halfway through just to check she hasn't thrown herself out of a window in sheer terror.

Well I obviously don't ask them all at one time, I spread them out.

Tomorrow morning some friends and I are going to play rugby in a nice muddy field, then in the afternoon we'll probably go to a bar, have a few beers, strip one of them naked and toss him kicking and screaming out of the bar and into the bushes. Don' t worry, we won't get in trouble. One of the guys is a cop. After I shower and change, would you like to spend some time at my house? I'm an excellent cook and afterwards, we'll have a few cocktails, sit on the back porch and watch the stars and get to know eachother. If the mood strikes us, maybe we'll fuck like it's going out of style. Interested?

That more or less does the same thing all your other questions combined do. *nod*

I have learn that you need to weed out alot of people in order to find someone you'll be compatible with. It's like digging through a ton of cow manure to find the diamond. *nod*

Perhaps a name change to Casanova is in order, your comparitives speak of a man of romance.

Well I obviously don't ask them all at one time, I spread them out.

Maybe you should ask them all at once, and take notes on their answers! :)

Maybe you should ask them all at once, and take notes on their answers! :)

I'm trying to see if we'll work out, not find out who they killed. :p

A little much. I suggest going very casual for the first few to get a gut feeling for the person, then sprinkling in the questions over time. Keyword is sprinkling. It's good to know someone, but anything like this in too short of time *will drive someone away.

Also, while I respect your decision, the vasectomy idea is going to loose you many, many, many women. Even weeks or months in, that line will probably drive away a good deal of women, or cause trouble. Like I said, not my personal feelings, but that is what will most likely happen.

so how many of these dates actually call you back? also disgusting scars are not pretty things surely and so honesty must not be good for you, though I did laugh about asking her about the money ;)

I usually don't ask any set questions on a "date" (whatever the hell that is) but for the fun:

(assuming I already know her details)

Q: lets go to [social event/bar/pub] (if she says no I wonder what I have gotten myself into)

C: *makes silly comments on things hoping to start up banter* (if she doesn't laugh/banter I will be having that drink now please)

wow I'm a rather easy date :confused:

Is your vagina wet or dry?

A little much. I suggest going very casual for the first few to get a gut feeling for the person, then sprinkling in the questions over time. Keyword is sprinkling. It's good to know someone, but anything like this in too short of time *will drive someone away.

Also, while I respect your decision, the vasectomy idea is going to loose you many, many, many women. Even weeks or months in, that line will probably drive away a good deal of women, or cause trouble. Like I said, not my personal feelings, but that is what will most likely happen.

Yea, but eh I don't want the women going into a relationship thinking I'm going to give them children if we get married or have a LTR. I want to be honest about that up front.

OH! Also, do ask if they've ever assassinated a Ninja Mafia Emperor. If "yes", it's probably a good idea to start running.


Fast.

Yea, but eh I don't want the women going into a relationship thinking I'm going to give them children if we get married or have a LTR. I want to be honest about that up front.

I understand that, I'm just saying you need to go into dating with a fun mentality. You're supposed to be having fun. Once it gets going real serious, then bring that out, otherwise, you'll ruin *everyone's fun.

Remember: Dating does *not start out serious. The majority of people don't go into a date expecting anything long term. It's a foundation thing. I honestly think you're starting off too serious. Loosen up, relax, let that tie down, and have a killer time. Worry about the messy details when you absolutely need to.

I have learn that you need to weed out alot of people in order to find someone you'll be compatible with. It's like digging through a ton of cow manure to find the diamond. *nod*

do you remember those day when dating was just some fun people had? and like marriage was this big scary thing nobody wants to think about?

Is your vagina wet or dry?

but I don't have a vagina ;)

SNIP

you had me at a warm meal :p

I've been to depositions that were less interogatory.

you had me at a warm meal :p

Gets em every time. That's how I got my wife. :cool:

Wow...
Thats kind of...
...Stupid, I think, is the word I'm looking for.
I mean, really, thats almost as bad as handing somebody a questionaire with stuff like 'Are you a fundamentalist Christian? (y/n)' on it. Its just going to piss them off or make them laugh at you for asking stupid questions.

EDIT:
And if a girl told ME that she hung out with 'wiccans and pagans all the time', I'd feel much less inclined to date her. Not because I'm Christian, but rather because most 'wiccans' and 'pagans' you meet these days think that having a skull nailed above their door and participating in lesbian orgies is enough to qualify.

...having a skull nailed above their door and participating in lesbian orgies...

That's enough to guarantee a second date with me. :D

OH! Also, do ask if they've ever assassinated a Ninja Mafia Emperor. If "yes", it's probably a good idea to start running.


Fast.

Hey man Sam needs some lovin'.

That's enough to guarantee a second date with me. :D

Not to say that I'm against lesbian orgies or anything, but you'd also have to deal with the emo, terrible music, and excessive mascara.
I knew one 'wiccan' girl who didnt have to use hair gel. Ever. Because she never, ever, washed her hair.

Not to say that I'm against lesbian orgies or anything, but you'd also have to deal with the emo, terrible music, and excessive mascara.
I knew one 'wiccan' girl who didnt have to use hair gel. Ever. Because she never, ever, washed her hair.

Ech. What else didn't she wash? :(

Not to say that I'm against lesbian orgies or anything, but you'd also have to deal with the emo, terrible music, and excessive mascara.
I knew one 'wiccan' girl who didnt have to use hair gel. Ever. Because she never, ever, washed her hair.



EDIT:
And if a girl told ME that she hung out with 'wiccans and pagans all the time', I'd feel much less inclined to date her. Not because I'm Christian, but rather because most 'wiccans' and 'pagans' you meet these days think that having a skull nailed above their door and participating in lesbian orgies is enough to qualify.

They're not all like that.

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

*snip*

So what kind of comments or questions do you guys ask on dates?

Bloody hell, do you ever see any of these women a second time? I think you need to ease up a bit, you don't need to be so serious straight off. Usually I would just ask questions about their general life; what they do for work/study, what they like to do in their spare time, general enquiries about their friends/family, that sort of stuff.

Even if my answer to those questions was the one you favoured I would not stick around long enough for you to ask them all.

Ech. What else didn't she wash? :(
I never found out. Fourtunatly I graduated high school shortly after meeting her and, next time I saw her, she was a fairly normal person whose only failing (in my eyes, anyway) was a yaoi fetish.

They're not all like that.

No, but being 'pagan' or 'wiccan' is 'cool' and 'altnerative', and, as such, attracts many people like that.
I've got no real problem with the real ones that dont have a persecution complex.

I never found out. Fourtunatly I graduated high school shortly after meeting her and, next time I saw her, she was a fairly normal person whose only failing (in my eyes, anyway) was a yaoi fetish.



No, but being 'pagan' or 'wiccan' is 'cool' and 'altnerative', and, as such, attracts many people like that.
I've got no real problem with the real ones that dont have a persecution complex.

Well I hang out with the 'real' ones.

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
C: I support gay marriage and equal rights for gays and lesbians. (Once again, weed out the Fundie Christians)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a cat person?
Q: What do you think of George W. Bush?
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
C: I hope to own and operate my own aircraft someday. (See if she'll let me having something this expensive.)
C: I'm a pilot and I go flying every weekend. (See if she'll be ok with this because I don't see any reason to change my flying time.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
C: I tend to have a set routine that I do everyday and somewhat on weekends. (I tend to stick to my routine, it's not often that I am spontaneous.)
Q: What kind of movies do you like? (common interest again.)
Q: What do you like to do for fun/What hobbies do you have? (again, common interest.)

So what kind of comments or questions do you guys ask on dates?

Why don't you just let the conversation flow naturally? If you're compatible, you'll find out without seeming like a police interrogator. Odds are you'll cover most of these topics in a regular first-date kind of conversation (except maybe the choking one).

Spanish Inquisition much?

No one expects it.

And to think you are still single

Seriously mate, if you want someone to exactly conform to what you want the only thing close is to clone yourself, but its to late for that because they had to be cloned at the exact moment of your birth and have the same experiences as you, because even though you may clone yourself now (and change the Y chromosome to X or not depending on the way you swing) they way they think could be completely different. Do you have a twin sister? It wont be so bad as you don't want children.

But I sympathize with you, one time when I found out this girl was a hard core greenie I had to get away, but I found that out through her comments and actions not by asking her 20 questions

I've been having sex with my twin sister for the past twenty years. And it's still great.

Q. Who are you and what are you doing here?

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
C: I support gay marriage and equal rights for gays and lesbians. (Once again, weed out the Fundie Christians)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a cat person?
Q: What do you think of George W. Bush?
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
C: I hope to own and operate my own aircraft someday. (See if she'll let me having something this expensive.)
C: I'm a pilot and I go flying every weekend. (See if she'll be ok with this because I don't see any reason to change my flying time.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
C: I tend to have a set routine that I do everyday and somewhat on weekends. (I tend to stick to my routine, it's not often that I am spontaneous.)
Q: What kind of movies do you like? (common interest again.)
Q: What do you like to do for fun/What hobbies do you have? (again, common interest.)

Bolds are appropriate for dates.

Underlined are things that get you walked out on. It's just not appropriate until you're, you know. Serious.

I mean, have you ever really gone on a date? With someone who relatively normal? I can generally weed out crazy fundies with, you know. Pleasant conversation. Not interrogation.

Things I usually like to know about someone I'd like to date..
- What sort of music do you listen to? Are you a musician? If so, what sort of music do you play?
- Do you like to read? What sorts of books?
- Do you like video games? Can you accept that I am pretty loyal to Nintendo and really don't like first person shooters? (Hey. It's important.)
- Do you think Will Ferrell or Dane Cook are funny? How about Jim Carrey? (If they answer affirmative, I'm sure I can get over it. But it is a black mark.)
- Do you know what DCI is? (Okay, this is more a question to see if anyone will go see shows with me. Drum corps are awesome!)

What's your contact details? (better give me email or IM, not phone number)
How about we meet online for some multiplayer action some time?
Do you buy branded computers or parts to build 'em yourself?
Which operating system do you perfer?
How many programming languages do you know?
Gnome or KDE, Vim or Emacs and mp3 or ogg?

No I don't have a girlfriend and no I wouldn't actually ask those questions on a date, I'd just try to have fun.

Q: Does this wrag smell like chloroform?

Q: If I said you had a sexy body, would you hold it against me?

Q: What is your opinion on one night stands?

Q: What is your opinion on bros before hoes?

Q: Did you bring condoms? Bcause I forgot mine

Comments:

C: I killed a bear with my own hands before

C: I tend to obsess too much over a person, even after they renew the restraining order

C: Yes, you do look fat...By fat I mean over bloated with charm and sexiness

C: I think armed revolution is a sensible choice at this point in our nation's history

C: All I'm saying is that Oprah is the devil

dates of what?

i do like to know where anyone i have to deal with is coming from though.
kind of like a matter of survival.

a lot of things you can't expect streight answers if asked directly because for cultural reasons minds just don't work that way or think in those terms. not so much a matter of intentional evasion but just of how people in any given place, and its different to some degree in different places, think.

i do prefer the company of people who have imagination, don't think the universe has to begin and end with what they think they know about it, and don't entirely pretend to know what is not known just because the're used to almost eveyone else the know or have ever met doing so.

but companionship isn't something i'm inclined to seek for its own sake, having found it far less gratifying then creating and exploring. which may make me wierd, but i difinately, when i must have company at all, prefer that which is likewise and for similar reasons.

so i would definately want to know if someone thought reality began and ended with human society. so i could avoid them like the self deceptive plague i perceive them to be.

i know, i know, there are exceptions to everything, and even the least desirable company can be occasionally amusing, and the last thing in hell i want is to make anyone unhappy either. but that anyone does, at least include, myself as well.

=^^=
.../\...

lol. now that your idea has been thoroughly crushed....

there are areas that have to be discussed as you move toward a serious relationship. too many people end up married without ever discussing having children, how to handle money or even religion past the "lets have the wedding at my church" suggestion.

its just that you proceed with these things slowly and naturally. no one wants to feel like they are being interviewed for the job of wife.

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

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Bolds are appropriate for dates.

Underlined are things that get you walked out on. It's just not appropriate until you're, you know. Serious.

Haha! Excellent!

Seriously though to Wilgrove, congrats on your boldness for not wanting to waste any time!

Myself, I like to let it blossom a little bit before trying to work out if they're perfect for me or not, you'd be surprised how much you can put up with in a relationship once you've given enough time to get to like them enough, and by that time the benefits of being with them greatly outweigh the differences you have to put up with. It'd be a miracle if most people ended up with someone who was exactly perfect for them. There are compromises in every relationship. Tolerance and communication. Those help.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/wrong-mike.jpg

Heehee! Look at its face! Those sad eyes!

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
C: I support gay marriage and equal rights for gays and lesbians. (Once again, weed out the Fundie Christians)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a cat person?
Q: What do you think of George W. Bush?
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
C: I hope to own and operate my own aircraft someday. (See if she'll let me having something this expensive.)
C: I'm a pilot and I go flying every weekend. (See if she'll be ok with this because I don't see any reason to change my flying time.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
C: I tend to have a set routine that I do everyday and somewhat on weekends. (I tend to stick to my routine, it's not often that I am spontaneous.)
Q: What kind of movies do you like? (common interest again.)
Q: What do you like to do for fun/What hobbies do you have? (again, common interest.)

So what kind of comments or questions do you guys ask on dates?

For me, the walk out would be after about three of the bold ones.

Although the last one isn't too bad, but it does give the impression of "It doesn't matter what you like, I'm not going to do anything any differently than when I was single."

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
C: I support gay marriage and equal rights for gays and lesbians. (Once again, weed out the Fundie Christians)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a cat person?
Q: What do you think of George W. Bush?
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
C: I hope to own and operate my own aircraft someday. (See if she'll let me having something this expensive.)
C: I'm a pilot and I go flying every weekend. (See if she'll be ok with this because I don't see any reason to change my flying time.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
C: I tend to have a set routine that I do everyday and somewhat on weekends. (I tend to stick to my routine, it's not often that I am spontaneous.)
Q: What kind of movies do you like? (common interest again.)
Q: What do you like to do for fun/What hobbies do you have? (again, common interest.)

So what kind of comments or questions do you guys ask on dates?

You're going to talk about scars and weekend routines, but you aren't going to ask her if she takes it in the bum?

Crazy people.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/wrong-mike.jpg
:D

Also:
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
[...]
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
Stimulate. Not that that makes it better.

You're going to talk about scars and weekend routines, but you aren't going to ask her if she takes it in the bum?

Crazy people.

Yep now I remember what cola flying out my nose feels like

I gotta say that anyone who plans this much conversation in advance simply can't be trusted. The assumption here is that all potential dates (or in what seems like Wilgrove's case, conquests) are the same with regard to what "works on them". That kind of thinking is hopelessly outmoded, and I would trust even less any person on whom it actually worked.

The kinds of questions in the OP would scare away ANYone if asked outside of a couple of MONTHS. "What kind of house do you want"? Seriously? You can't treat chatting someone up like a video game where there are specific actions that work in specific situations. Reality is the ultimate "sandbox" environment, and other people are the most unpredictable "bots" you'll ever meet.

Relax and talk about what interests you and make your personal opinions and preferences clear when the subject comes up in the natural course of things, not with a list. Every person is different, and I'm fairly certain that anyone could see through that pre-programmed interrogation almost instantly.

Haha! Excellent!

Seriously though to Wilgrove, congrats on your boldness for not wanting to waste any time!

Myself, I like to let it blossom a little bit before trying to work out if they're perfect for me or not, you'd be surprised how much you can put up with in a relationship once you've given enough time to get to like them enough, and by that time the benefits of being with them greatly outweigh the differences you have to put up with. It'd be a miracle if most people ended up with someone who was exactly perfect for them. There are compromises in every relationship. Tolerance and communication. Those help.

No. Such. Thing.

"Magical" thinking like that is what causes resentment and disharmony in most relationships. The only person less perfect than the average person is the one looking for perfection. He or she will ALWAYS have a trait or six that drive you batty. The "work" in a relationship (GOD I hate that word) comes from accepting people as they are and realizing that the benefits far outweigh the need for adaptation.

"The search for perfection / is all very well / but to look for Heaven / is to live here in Hell" -- Sting, "Consider Me Gone"

EDIT: Partial retraction, and re-casting this post as an "AMEN, BROTHER!" I saw "perfect" and fired up the rant machine. Apologies -- your post is spot on, sir.

The most important:

Do you have an STD?

and...

Are you insured?

You're not a bleeder, are you?

Why not ask for a credit reference and full background check while you're at it? Maybe get her fingerprints too, just to be safe.


It's a date. Not an interview.

DNA testing, three written references, CV, bank statements...that Wilgrove, SUCH a romantic.

DNA testing, three written references, CV, bank statements...that Wilgrove, SUCH a romantic.

"Would you like to go out to dinner Friday?"
"Sure"
"Okay. Here's the necessary forms. I'll need the pink form atleast three (3) days prior to the date, and those blue forms must be filled out in triplicate. I ask that you submit a list of references no later than Thursday night, and please have your blood and urine tests completed by Tuesday so I can have the results in time. 7:30 sound good?"

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
Also weeds out the people who avoid flakey recreated religions.


Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
How about indifference, or an 'it's ugly, but I'm here with you right now aren't I?' You don't actually want someone with a scar fetish, do you?

Question: Could you please fill out and sign this consent form?

I've never seen anyone socially, but I suppose I'd start with a couple questions about work/hobbies/favorite kinds of entertainment, that sort of thing. I only know what dating would be like from movies and t.v., but those seem like the common-sense things to ask.

The problem with these questions is they lack a fundamental understanding of basic human social interaction in our society. There are some things you just don't ask in that "get to know you" phase.

For example, people really don't like to tell their finances to relative strangers. Nor do they want to hear your reproductive plans on the first date. It makes them a little uncomfortable.

No. Such. Thing.

"Magical" thinking like that is what causes resentment and disharmony in most relationships. The only person less perfect than the average person is the one looking for perfection. He or she will ALWAYS have a trait or six that drive you batty. The "work" in a relationship (GOD I hate that word) comes from accepting people as they are and realizing that the benefits far outweigh the need for adaptation.

"The search for perfection / is all very well / but to look for Heaven / is to live here in Hell" -- Sting, "Consider Me Gone"

EDIT: Partial retraction, and re-casting this post as an "AMEN, BROTHER!" I saw "perfect" and fired up the rant machine. Apologies -- your post is spot on, sir.

LOL! I read the top of your post and was just about to post an angry response when I read the rest of it!

Thanks, well said. Amen again.

-snip-

If you're looking to scare your date it'd probably be easier just to hire a horror movie...

There's only one question you need to ask on a date:

"Are you a Frequentist or a Bayesian?"

If she has an opinion on the subject then she's in!

*looks for other geeks on the thread to high-five*

"would you like to catch frogs with me?"

Spanish Inquisition much?

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!

Our chief weapon is surprise. Fear and surprise. Our two chief weapons.

Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
:confused:

#1 You could figure out from just making conversation
#2 Talking about future children (or lack of) on a date?! Thats one reason for her to run a mile.
#3 Same thing...it's a date, it's supposed to be fun
#4 Seriously? You'd ask someone about their finances on a date? I'd be out the door before you even finished the question!
#5 She's there with you...that should say enough.

You need to lighten up!

I have no list of questions for dates...I just show up, and let the conversation flow. It really is that easy.

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C: Your tits are big.
Q: Are they real?

Q: You're really going to eat that? I thought you cared about how you looked.
Q: Exactly how loose is your vagina?
Q: Can you cook? I mean, I know you can cook, you're a women, but I mean, how good are you at cooking?
Q: How many children do you want to buy?
Q: You know God is looking at your tits right now?
Q: So as soon as you pay for dinner, wanna fuck?

C: My cock is huge.
C: Your hair, it looks.. uh.. this wine tastes great!
C: I can see you conform a lot.
C: Communism is the answer.
C: I'm not sure I agree with you stance on abortion. I mean, my god, look at you.

Good grief. A few of those questions are reasonable, but half of them would get responses ranging from a nervous giggle to "Um, excuse me?" to "So....I'm going home now. Please never call me again."

Some actual, reasonable questions to ask on a first date:

"Hey, how are you doing tonight?"
"So, do you feel more like Italian food or Chinese?"
"How's work/class been treating you lately?"
"What movie would you like to see?"
"What sorts of books/movies/music do you like?"
"Can I call you again sometime?"

'Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?

Q: "Fifty quid for the whole deal, aye?"
C: "I hope the Rohypnol didn't affect the taste of your wine too much"

Q: "Fifty quid for the whole deal, aye?"
C: "I hope the Rohypnol didn't affect the taste of your wine too much"

:eek:

'Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?

lol

C: Your tits are big.
Q: Are they real?

Q: You're really going to eat that? I thought you cared about how you looked.
Q: Exactly how loose is your vagina?
Q: Can you cook? I mean, I know you can cook, you're a women, but I mean, how good are you at cooking?
Q: How many children do you want to buy?
Q: You know God is looking at your tits right now?
Q: So as soon as you pay for dinner, wanna fuck?

C: My cock is huge.
C: Your hair, it looks.. uh.. this wine tastes great!
C: I can see you conform a lot.
C: Communism is the answer.
C: I'm not sure I agree with you stance on abortion. I mean, my god, look at you.

Curse you Ruffy!!! *shakes fist at Ruffy*
I can´t stop laughing after reading this.

Q: You don't have any retarded political opinions like 'free speech', do you?
Q: You haven't had sex with Bobby Brown, have you?
Q: Have you ever puked on a cat, or am I the only one?
Q: By the way, is your cat feeling any better?
Q: So when we fuck on a church altar, do you think you might speak in tongues?
Q: ...then he flew over the handlebars of his bike and landed head-first in the cow shit. He pulls his head out, spits out a mouthful of poo and then projectile vomits all over my pants... would you care for some dessert?
Q: Could we use your credit card? The FBI is after me.

C: ...then he said to me, 'You have a lovely penis' and I replied, 'Thanks, Mr. Dalai Lama sir.'
C: Don't worry, mud washes right out of silk.
C: I have quite a night planned; I have some Barry White records, three cans of whipped cream, a strap-on and almost twelve feet of industrial chain. I hope you remembered the blindfolds.
C: Ha! Pepper spray just makes me hornier!
C: So when I was sorting through your garbage, I noticed that you have a prescription for bacterial infection medication...
C: ...and that was the first time I ever killed a man with cream pies...
C: Please don't finish your potatoes; leave me some to throw.

:D

C: Your tits are big.
Q: Are they real?

Q: You're really going to eat that? I thought you cared about how you looked.
Q: Exactly how loose is your vagina?
Q: Can you cook? I mean, I know you can cook, you're a women, but I mean, how good are you at cooking?
Q: How many children do you want to buy?
Q: You know God is looking at your tits right now?
Q: So as soon as you pay for dinner, wanna fuck?

C: My cock is huge.
C: Your hair, it looks.. uh.. this wine tastes great!
C: I can see you conform a lot.
C: Communism is the answer.
C: I'm not sure I agree with you stance on abortion. I mean, my god, look at you.
:fluffle:

Okay, now LG and Ruffy are doing it right. :D

I'd walk out if someone asked me about finances on a first date. I'd also walk out on someone who knew so little of finances that all they cared about was what was in my bank account. That tells one nothing of their financial situation.

C: Your tits are big.
Q: Are they real?

Q: You're really going to eat that? I thought you cared about how you looked.
Q: Exactly how loose is your vagina?
Q: Can you cook? I mean, I know you can cook, you're a women, but I mean, how good are you at cooking?
Q: How many children do you want to buy?
Q: You know God is looking at your tits right now?
Q: So as soon as you pay for dinner, wanna fuck?

C: My cock is huge.
C: Your hair, it looks.. uh.. this wine tastes great!
C: I can see you conform a lot.
C: Communism is the answer.
C: I'm not sure I agree with you stance on abortion. I mean, my god, look at you.
Q: So do you wanna fuck in the bathroom or are you one of those snobs that won't fuck until we are in the parking lot?
Q: You keep saying your cock is big, are you planning on showing me before you try to stiff me with the check?
Q: Do you like setting things on fire?
Q: Do you own or rent your furniture?


C: You aren't going to look so hot in another five years.
C: I have a terrible cocaine habit.
C: Buying carbon offsets is a scam.
C: I paid good money for these tits, they get me laid.
C: We have to be really quiet when we go back to my house. My husband is in the bedroom, so we have to use the kids room. Don't worry, they never wake up.

Q: Have you ever puked on a cat, or am I the only one?

I totally did that.

Here’s an even better list:

C: Here, let me get the door for you. (Weeds out man-hating feminazis immediately.)
C: I regularly attend church services. (This weeds out the atheists, pagans, wiccans, etc.)
C: America is the greatest country on God’s green earth. (Americaphobe filter.)
C: I voted for Proposition 22, and have signed the petitions to amend the California state constitution defining marriage as one man, one woman and to deny recognition and benefits to sexual deviants (This weeds out lesbians, switch-hitters, LUG’s, etc., as well as first cut to delete leftists.)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (Second cut to weed out leftists.)
C: I used to live in South Florida. There's sure going to be a party in Miami when Castro bites the dust. Wish I could be there for it. (Red sympathizers need not apply.)
Q: Are you one of those people who believe that the world is coming to an end because of “climate change”? (No Chicken Littles need apply.)
C: I love children, plan to have at least three or four, and intend to raise them in my church. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a PETA person? (Immediate disqualification.)
Q: I love a thick, juicy steak. Don't you? (No veggies or vegans need apply.)
Q: What do you think of George Soros? (Anything positive = DQ.)
Q: Have you ever seen any Michael Moore movies? (See previous question.)
Q: What news channels do you watch? (This may be begging the question.)
C: I enjoy tabletop gaming and RPG’s, and intend to continue engaging in these recreational activities. (See if she thinks she’s going to change me.)
Q: What do you think of the Ladder Theory? (No ninja bitches need apply.)
Q: Have you ever taken a womens’ studies class? (Any response other than “Hell, no!” or the equivalent results in instant disqualification.)
Q: What kind of music do you listen to? (Hip hop = DQ.)

Just a start . . . .

Frankly speaking, anyone who responds to those comments and questions in a way you find acceptable deserves you.

Here’s an even better list:

C: Here, let me get the door for you. (Weeds out man-hating feminazis immediately.)
C: I regularly attend church services. (This weeds out the atheists, pagans, wiccans, etc.)
C: America is the greatest country on God’s green earth. (Americaphobe filter.)
C: I voted for Proposition 22, and have signed the petitions to amend the California state constitution defining marriage as one man, one woman and to deny recognition and benefits to sexual deviants (This weeds out lesbians, switch-hitters, LUG’s, etc., as well as first cut to delete leftists.)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (Second cut to weed out leftists.)
C: I used to live in South Florida. There's sure going to be a party in Miami when Castro bites the dust. Wish I could be there for it. (Red sympathizers need not apply.)
Q: Are you one of those people who believe that the world is coming to an end because of “climate change”? (No Chicken Littles need apply.)
C: I love children, plan to have at least three or four, and intend to raise them in my church. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a PETA person? (Immediate disqualification.)
Q: I love a thick, juicy steak. Don't you? (No veggies or vegans need apply.)
Q: What do you think of George Soros? (Anything positive = DQ.)
Q: Have you ever seen any Michael Moore movies? (See previous question.)
Q: What news channels to you watch? (This may be begging the question.)
C: I enjoy tabletop gaming and RPG’s, and intend to continue engaging in these recreational activities. (See if she thinks she’s going to change me.)
Q: What do you think of the Ladder Theory? (No ninja bitches need apply.)
Q: Have you ever taken a womens’ studies class? (Any response other than “Hell, no!” or the equivalent results in instant disqualification.)
Q: What kind of music do you listen to? (Hip hop = DQ.)

Just a start . . . .

That leaves Ann Coulter. I hope your penis comes with a 'defrost' setting.

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The question I have found to most accurately judge someone is "why?", nothing more and nothing less, just why. You would be suprised how many people get that question wrong.

Frankly speaking, anyone who responds to those comments and questions in a way you find acceptable deserves you.

Obviously. Thank you. :cool:

That leaves Ann Coulter. I hope your penis comes with a 'defrost' setting.

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Actually, that leaves a very substantial percentage of American women. Not to mention foreign women.

The problem (or rather, a problem) with libs, lefties and feminazis, among others, is that they actually believe they're the majority. That is not now, nor has it ever been, the case. So sorry :p

Actually, that leaves a very substantial percentage of American women. Not to mention foreign women.

The problem (or rather, a problem) with libs, lefties and feminazis, among others, is that they actually believe they're the majority. That is not now, nor has it ever been, the case. So sorry :p

You may be right, but I suspect there may be a very large percentage of women who don't give a shit and may be turned off by someone who gives that much of a shit.

If Arnold felt as you did, he would never have become a Kennedy. :p

You may be right, but I suspect there may be a very large percentage of women who don't give a shit and may be turned off by someone who gives that much of a shit.

I also find apathy unattractive. It is what it is, and I am what I am. ;)

If Arnold felt as you did, he would never have become a Kennedy. :p

He could have done a lot better. :D

Actually, that leaves a very substantial percentage of American women. Not to mention foreign women.

The problem (or rather, a problem) with libs, lefties and feminazis, among others, is that they actually believe they're the majority. That is not now, nor has it ever been, the case. So sorry :p

Last time I checked "libs" were the majority...

Only a sexist right-wing pig would ask half the questions on that list.

Last time I checked "libs" were the majority...

Better check again, pal.

Only a sexist right-wing pig would ask half the questions on that list.

Only a left-wing horse's ass and/or a PW'd metrosexual would not do so.

C: America is the greatest country on God’s green earth. (Americaphobe filter.)

Actually, that leaves a very substantial percentage of American women. Not to mention foreign women.

lol

Ifreann wins thread btw.

C: I voted for Proposition 22, and have signed the petitions to amend the California state constitution defining marriage as one man, one woman and to deny recognition and benefits to sexual deviants...


Wow.

If there really was a god, this would be enough to make the comments about children irrelevent.

There's only one question you need to ask on a date:

"Are you a Frequentist or a Bayesian?"

If she has an opinion on the subject then she's in!

Statistically speaking?

Here’s an even better list (With "R" for Reply in bold from the point of view of an average of the mosaic of women I know and have met):

C: Here, let me get the door for you. (Weeds out man-hating feminazis immediately.)

R: Thank you very much. Such a gentleman.

C: I regularly attend church services. (This weeds out the atheists, pagans, wiccans, etc.)

R: Really? Which church? I'm a Lutheran, myself.

C: America is the greatest country on God’s green earth. (Americaphobe filter.)

R: I'm certainly glad I live here. America certainly has done a great deal of good in the world, but with such amazing power, it would take the wisdom of Solomon to not make some mistakes, and I don't know about you, but Solomon has so far declined anyone's nomination. I believe that America has much to be proud of, but no little amount to reconcile as well.

C: I voted for Proposition 22, and have signed the petitions to amend the California state constitution defining marriage as one man, one woman and to deny recognition and benefits to sexual deviants (This weeds out lesbians, switch-hitters, LUG’s, etc., as well as first cut to delete leftists.)

R: Sexual deviants? What defines that for you? Before you answer, realize that anal sex is among my favorite things in bed.

Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (Second cut to weed out leftists.)

R: I am, but mostly as an observer. Politics as practiced today is a combination of popularity contest and an endless game of "gotcha" that nobody seems to have the will to stop. Until our political leaders can stop acting like children, I will continue only to observe and to vote my conscience.

C: I used to live in South Florida. There's sure going to be a party in Miami when Castro bites the dust. Wish I could be there for it. (Red sympathizers need not apply.)

R: I'm pretty sure that he's dusted already. But Raul is probably not too far from the original mold. And then what happens when he dies?

Q: Are you one of those people who believe that the world is coming to an end because of “climate change”? (No Chicken Littles need apply.)

R: No. The planet is fine and will be fine long after we've extinguished ourselves. Our ability to live comfortably upon it is being compromised by climate change, but we'll adapt. I do think that determining exactly what effect humanity has on climate needs to be well sorted out before too much is done without knowing.

C: I love children, plan to have at least three or four, and intend to raise them in my church. (Self-explanatory.)

R: Well, that's very neighborly of the church, but wouldn't you rather raise them in a house?

Q: Are you a PETA person? (Immediate disqualification.)

R: I do not belong to the organization, but I agree with their philosophy. I can't trust anyone who'd be cruel to animals just because they can or because of greed. That said, philosophy and actions are two different things, and some of the more vocal elements of PETA are out of whack.

Q: I love a thick, juicy steak. Don't you? (No veggies or vegans need apply.)

R: Bet your ass I do. I give in about once or twice a month.

Q: What do you think of George Soros? (Anything positive = DQ.)

R: I think he's very wealthy and wants to peddle his influence like any other very wealthy person. Rupert Murdoch is the same type of person, he just contributes his influence to other sides of issues.

Q: Have you ever seen any Michael Moore movies? (See previous question.)

R: Of course I have. Should I be the kind of person who criticizes things she hasn't even seen? I would hope you weren't that shallow. Now, if you want to ask me my opinion of his work, go right ahead. But don't expect a knee-jerk reaction to something I haven't seen just because the cover has a polarizing name on it.

Q: What news channels do you watch? (This may be begging the question.)

R: Television news is now a commodity that has been branded and shaped to appeal to its various consumers. I try to balance my news by listening to NPR and local/national AM talk radio so that I can hear what most people are being told about the same story. The contrasts can be really funny. Most sensationalist stuff that gets reported doesn't affect me anyway, so I take all the screaming headlines and dramatic music with a grain of salt.

C: I enjoy tabletop gaming and RPG’s, and intend to continue engaging in these recreational activities. (See if she thinks she’s going to change me.)

R: What do you play? I'm partial to D&D myself, despite being told that playing the game was a ticket to hell by more than a few people when I was in school.

Q: What do you think of the Ladder Theory? (No ninja bitches need apply.)

R: I oppose any "theory" that tries to generalize human behavior based solely on one thing like gender or orientation or race or income. We're all, in as much as is possible, individuals. Judging based on stereotypes and "rules" is shitty way to get to know anyone.

Q: Have you ever taken a womens’ studies class? (Any response other than “Hell, no!” or the equivalent results in instant disqualification.)

R: I can't say as I have. I understand why some people think they're necessary, but it seems to me that fostering the continued division of society is a bit of a mistake. A legitimate study of the impact of women on history and society has a place, sure. Demonization of those who don't agree with you does not.

Q: What kind of music do you listen to? (Hip hop = DQ.)

R: I listen to what I like. There are not many major genres (the genre debate itself is a whole 'nother topic) not represented in my collection. If it moves me in some way, I like it, and it doesn't matter what it is or who produced it.

Just a start . . . .

NM, you're looking for something insanely specific, and I honestly hope you find it. We all would like to be happy.

Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
[..]
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)Sounds like you want a girlfriend adept at artificial intelligence. ;)

So, I have come up with a list of comments or question you should always ask on dates, to weed out the compatible people with the non-compatible. Here is my list. C is Comment and Q is Question.

C: I hang out with Wiccans and Pagans on a regular basis, they are a really good bunch of guys. (This weeds out the Fundie Christians)
C: I support gay marriage and equal rights for gays and lesbians. (Once again, weed out the Fundie Christians)
Q: Are you interested in politics, if you are, then where are you on the Political scale? (I ask this because I need someone who can simulate my mind and challenge me.)
Q: Are you one of those people that are so unbelievably happy that I just want to choke you? (I hate people who seems to always be so damn cheerful, especially in the morning.)
C: I don't want children and as soon as I get the money I will get a Vasectomy. (Self-explanatory.)
Q: Are you a cat person?
Q: What do you think of George W. Bush?
Q: What kind of books do you read? (Seeing what we have in common and see if she can simulate my mind.)
C: I hope to own and operate my own aircraft someday. (See if she'll let me having something this expensive.)
C: I'm a pilot and I go flying every weekend. (See if she'll be ok with this because I don't see any reason to change my flying time.)
Q: What kind of house do you want? (Me, I want a small house, condo, or townhome. If she wants a big house, we probably won't get along.)
Q: How much money do you put into your savings account? (This tells me how responsible she is with money.)
Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)
C: I tend to have a set routine that I do everyday and somewhat on weekends. (I tend to stick to my routine, it's not often that I am spontaneous.)
Q: What kind of movies do you like? (common interest again.)
Q: What do you like to do for fun/What hobbies do you have? (again, common interest.)

So what kind of comments or questions do you guys ask on dates?

I guarantee that if given these comments or questions, there certainly wouldn't be a second date with me. How condescending and shallow can you get? All I see here is ME ME ME ME ME, not even the possibility of a compromise.

Buy a dog. They agree with everything you say and think everything you do is manna from the gods.

I have learn that you need to weed out alot of people in order to find someone you'll be compatible with. It's like digging through a ton of cow manure to find the diamond. *nod*

...if this is honestly how you feel about other people, you're never going to be happy.

Tomorrow morning some friends and I are going to play rugby in a nice muddy field, then in the afternoon we'll probably go to a bar, have a few beers, strip one of them naked and toss him kicking and screaming out of the bar and into the bushes. Don' t worry, we won't get in trouble. One of the guys is a cop. After I shower and change, would you like to spend some time at my house? I'm an excellent cook and afterwards, we'll have a few cocktails, sit on the back porch and watch the stars and get to know eachother. If the mood strikes us, maybe we'll fuck like it's going out of style. Interested?


What time should I be over, and will your wife be joining us? Sorry, couldn't resist! *grin*

Only a left-wing horse's ass and/or a PW'd metrosexual would not do so.

Yeah, because only left-wing horse's asses and metrosexuals would avoid asking someone if they thought the world is ending to global warming. I mean that's such a pertinent and relevant question on dates. Clearly we need to learn the art from you, Don Juan.

Have you ever even been laid? You think Ann Coulter is sexy. Jesus, I guess that's a no.

What time should I be over, and will your wife be joining us? Sorry, couldn't resist! *grin*

Ah, the imagery swimming in my mind...*lights incense*

Wow.

60% of California voters also saw the light. Deal with it.

If there really was a god, this would be enough to make the comments about children irrelevent.

1) There is a God.
2) The comments about children remain relevant.
3) If you were a woman (assuming you aren't), you would be weeded out. Your loss.

A few more comments are in order:
* If the OP can filter "Fundie Christians," I can bloody well weed out feminazis, lesbians and lefties.
* Said feminazis, lesbians and lefties should be glad that I do--it spares them (not to mention me) hours of wasted time in an endeavor that would obviously be pointless.

A few more comments are in order:
* If the OP can filter "Fundie Christians," I can bloody well weed out feminazis, lesbians and lefties.

You can set whatever criteria you wish.

* Said feminazis, lesbians and lefties should be glad that I do--it spares them (not to mention me) hours of wasted time in an endeavor that would obviously be pointless.

if you think the aforementioned would bother spending "hours" on you...well...there's something to be said for the powers of dillusion.

I guarantee that if given these comments or questions, there certainly wouldn't be a second date with me. How condescending and shallow can you get? All I see here is ME ME ME ME ME, not even the possibility of a compromise.

Buy a dog. They agree with everything you say and think everything you do is manna from the gods.



...if this is honestly how you feel about other people, you're never going to be happy.

To the contrary, he'll probably find exactly the girl he's looking for, and will reduce the likelihood of divorce.

Wilgrove, here's a deal for you: you refer your rejects to me, and I'll send mine to you. :cool:

* If the OP can filter "Fundie Christians," I can bloody well weed out feminazis, lesbians and lefties.
* Said feminazis, lesbians and lefties should be glad that I do--it spares them (not to mention me) hours of wasted time in an endeavor that would obviously be pointless.

Assuming you're a man, why would a lesbian be on a date with you?

if you think the aforementioned would bother spending "hours" on you...well...there's something to be said for the powers of dillusion.

They might, if they managed not to reveal their true opinions to me and I to them. Works both ways, pal.

To the contrary, he'll probably find exactly the girl he's looking for, and will reduce the likelihood of divorce.

Don't forget to make sure she has a flat head so there's someplace to rest the beer.

They might, if they managed not to reveal their true opinions to me and I to them. Works both ways, pal.

based on your interactions on this forum, I do not believe you're capable of being anything other than exactly what you are.

Assuming you're a man, why would a lesbian be on a date with you?

One instance is enough for a DQ.

One instance is enough for a DQ.

A DQ?

based on your interactions on this forum, I do not believe you're capable of being anything other than exactly what you are.

Thank you, and likewise.

Don't forget to make sure she has a flat head so there's someplace to rest the beer.

Wow was that supposed to be funny? Oh, I get it! Anyone who isn't a flaming leftie must be an idiot and only fit to be furniture! Gee, that's a good one!!! You should go on Letterman some time!!!

BTW: I'm not much of a beer drinker, I prefer single malt Scotch :p

A DQ?

DQ = disqualification

A few more comments are in order:
* If the OP can filter "Fundie Christians," I can bloody well weed out feminazis, lesbians and lefties.
* Said feminazis, lesbians and lefties should be glad that I do--it spares them (not to mention me) hours of wasted time in an endeavor that would obviously be pointless.
Again, why would a lesbian be dating a man?
You can weed out whomever you want, as can he.

To the contrary, he'll probably find exactly the girl he's looking for, and will reduce the likelihood of divorce.

Wilgrove, here's a deal for you: you refer your rejects to me, and I'll send mine to you. :cool:
You are both looking for the "perfect woman" who exactly matches up with this narrow concept you've developed...politically, socially, religiously, they must line up with you or they clearly could never be worth your oh-so precious time. You'll never find her, because she doesn't exist.

Why can't you date someone who has a different political ideology? Why couldn't you date someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but doesn't have a problem with gay marriage?

You're looking to date yourself, and, in all likelyhood, that is what you will end up with.

You are both looking for the "perfect woman" who exactly matches up with this narrow concept you've developed...politically, socially, religiously, they must line up with you or they clearly could never be worth your oh-so precious time. You'll never find her, because she doesn't exist.

Why can't you date someone who has a different political ideology? Why couldn't you date someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but doesn't have a problem with gay marriage?

You're looking to date yourself, and, in all likelyhood, that is what you will end up with.

Excellent post.

Relationships are about compromise and not about just what you want. If you aren't prepared to accept someone else's differences then the dating world isn't going to be a whole lot of fun for you.

Again, why would a lesbian be dating a man?
You can weed out whomever you want, as can he.


You are both looking for the "perfect woman" who exactly matches up with this narrow concept you've developed...politically, socially, religiously, they must line up with you or they clearly could never be worth your oh-so precious time. You'll never find her, because she doesn't exist.

Why can't you date someone who has a different political ideology? Why couldn't you date someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but doesn't have a problem with gay marriage?

You're looking to date yourself, and, in all likelyhood, that is what you will end up with.

Indeed. Of the guys I've dated or seriously considered dating, exactly 0 have agreed with me perfectly on politics. Exactly 0 have agreed with me perfectly on religion (in fact, none of them have even come particularly close). Exactly 0 had exactly my taste in hobbies. Exactly 0 had no habits I found annoying, no friends who got on my nerves, and no interests that I just didn't find too interesting. Exactly 0 liked everything I liked. And yet, somehow, I still managed to be terribly happy with them. Funny, that, eh?

Indeed. Of the guys I've dated or seriously considered dating, exactly 0 have agreed with me perfectly on politics. Exactly 0 have agreed with me perfectly on religion (in fact, none of them have even come particularly close). Exactly 0 had exactly my taste in hobbies. Exactly 0 had no habits I found annoying, no friends who got on my nerves, and no interests that I just didn't find too interesting. Exactly 0 liked everything I liked.

So...

What are your thoughts on politics?
What are your thoughts on religion?
What are your hobbies?
What do you find annoying?
What do you like to do?

Does this tickle?

Wow, both of these lists make me laugh and make me sad at the same time. Maybe I'm hopelessly old-fashioned to think that dating is supposed to be, y'know, fun. It's fun to meet new people and flirt and figure out what makes them tick; if they turn out to be incompatible with you on some major issues, oh well, you still had a good time.

Plus, nobody's listed the really important questions, like whether you both like South Park or whether she picks her nose when she thinks you're not looking. Politics, kids, money, etc. can all be addressed later -- dates are for the heavy issues. :)

EDIT: Didn't see Neo Art's post until I'd posted. "Does this tickle?" is important, as is "Will you wear this?"

60% of California voters also saw the light. Deal with it.


So, the majority are bigotted thugs? Quick - someone alert the press!


1) There is a God.


If there were, 60% of California voters wouldn't have "seen the light".


2) The comments about children remain relevant.


Further evidence that there is no god.


3) If you were a woman (assuming you aren't), you would be weeded out. Your loss.


If I were a woman, I would consider being 'weeded out' by you to be both: a) too late (since I'd have refused the first date, based on your current showing), and b) a blessing.


A few more comments are in order:
* If the OP can filter "Fundie Christians," I can bloody well weed out feminazis, lesbians and lefties.


Okay. You'll notice I didn't endorse that other platform, either.


* Said feminazis, lesbians and lefties should be glad that I do--it spares them (not to mention me) hours of wasted time in an endeavor that would obviously be pointless.

Absolutely. You can't imagine how much I agree.

Again, why would a lesbian be dating a man?
You can weed out whomever you want, as can he.


You are both looking for the "perfect woman" who exactly matches up with this narrow concept you've developed...politically, socially, religiously, they must line up with you or they clearly could never be worth your oh-so precious time. You'll never find her, because she doesn't exist.

e-harmony.com (to mention just one) would beg to differ. Furthermore, my concept is not "narrow". "Narrower", maybe. It leaves the whole right half of the spectrum, at least.

Why can't you date someone who has a different political ideology? Why couldn't you date someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but doesn't have a problem with gay marriage?

Let me know the day you start dating someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but does "have a problem with gay marriage."

And as for that last criterion: I intend to raise my kids in a manner that is incompatible with any recognition of so-called same-sex "marriage."

You're looking to date yourself, and, in all likelyhood, that is what you will end up with.

Naw, there are plenty of women who fully meet my criteria. And not, pace LG, just Ann Coulter (personally I'd prefer Michelle Malkin--if she weren't married already).

e-harmony.com (to mention just one) would beg to differ.

You mean to say, a group that relies on insisting that the more closely you resemble your partner, the better your match will be for it's PROFITS.... agrees that the more closely you resemble your partner, the better your match will be?

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

So, the majority are bigotted thugs? Quick - someone alert the press!

No, 60% of the voters determined that marriage is what it is: one man + one woman. Your self-righteous arrogance, on the other hand, is typical of leftie "bigotry" (to use your expression).

You mean to say, a group that relies on insisting that the more closely you resemble your partner, the better your match will be for it's PROFITS.... agrees that the more closely you resemble your partner, the better your match will be?

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

Your winnings, sir :p

Indeed. Of the guys I've dated or seriously considered dating, exactly 0 have agreed with me perfectly on politics. Exactly 0 have agreed with me perfectly on religion (in fact, none of them have even come particularly close). Exactly 0 had exactly my taste in hobbies. Exactly 0 had no habits I found annoying, no friends who got on my nerves, and no interests that I just didn't find too interesting. Exactly 0 liked everything I liked. And yet, somehow, I still managed to be terribly happy with them. Funny, that, eh?

"Perfect agreement" is not the issue. How many of them have conflicting opinions on issues of basic importance to them? Not too many, I'll bet.

You're looking to date yourself, and, in all likelyhood, that is what you will end up with.

Chances are you are right. Especially considering the first date (and maybe even foreplay?) with New Mitanni involves waterboarding the Palestinian he has locked in his basement.

"Perfect agreement" is not the issue. How many of them have conflicting opinions on issues of basic importance to them? Not too many, I'll bet.

Okay, well, let's put it this way. I am an extremely socially liberal, ex-Catholic agnostic deist with serious issues with the Church. One of my exes with whom I am still close friends, and with whom I had a very happy and functional relationship for some time is a devout Catholic (part of why we broke up is his intention to become a priest, which didn't exactly bode well for a long-term relationship) and self-described "arch-conservative." I find organized religion generally idiotic; he goes to mass every day. I've canvased door-to-door for Democratic candidates; he was an officer of our college's Republican Society. I get regular mailings from the HRC; he gets regular mailings from pro-life societies. We disagree on everything - and we're good friends who had a lovely, happy relationship for several months, which ended, as I said, largely because he wanted to pursue the priesthood, not because of any particular problems between us. Does that qualify as "conflicting opinions on issues of basic importance to them"? :p

Does this tickle?

See, now that's a much better date-question than "Tell me all about your personal finances." ;)

Wow was that supposed to be funny? Oh, I get it! Anyone who isn't a flaming leftie must be an idiot and only fit to be furniture! Gee, that's a good one!!! You should go on Letterman some time!!!

BTW: I'm not much of a beer drinker, I prefer single malt Scotch :p

No, you completely didn't get it. But kudos for the screamingly funny conclusion you jumped to.

See, now that's a much better date-question than "Tell me all about your personal finances." ;)

actually I find the better question is "do you like it when this tickles? Just nod your head, I understand you can't talk right now"

You mean to say, a group that relies on insisting that the more closely you resemble your partner, the better your match will be for it's PROFITS.... agrees that the more closely you resemble your partner, the better your match will be?

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

And rejects plenty of people out of hand because they don't fit the narrow profile they have. http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-05-18-eharmony_x.htm

But hey, what can I say.... found my match without having to ask a computer program to do it for me.

Okay, well, let's put it this way. I am an extremely socially liberal, ex-Catholic agnostic deist with serious issues with the Church. One of my exes with whom I am still close friends, and with whom I had a very happy and functional relationship for some time is a devout Catholic (part of why we broke up is his intention to become a priest, which didn't exactly bode well for a long-term relationship) and self-described "arch-conservative." I find organized religion generally idiotic; he goes to mass every day. I've canvased door-to-door for Democratic candidates; he was an officer of our college's Republican Society. I get regular mailings from the HRC; he gets regular mailings from pro-life societies. We disagree on everything - and we're good friends who had a lovely, happy relationship for several months, which ended, as I said, largely because he wanted to pursue the priesthood, not because of any particular problems between us. Does that qualify as "conflicting opinions on issues of basic importance to them"? :p

Touche.

I would say, though, that you are probably looking for something different in a relationship that I am, or that you and/or your friend had some qualities that overrode the differences in outlook. (Or maybe he was trying to bring a straying lamb back into the fold?)

Personally, I've been there, done that, and didn't like the outcomes (and btw, once I was on the receiving end of a fundamentalist Christian weed-out :eek: --turned out Catholics weren't quite up to Christian standards), hence my current requirements.

No, you completely didn't get it. But kudos for the screamingly funny conclusion you jumped to.

Backtracking now, eh? ;)

But hey, what can I say.... found my match without having to ask a computer program to do it for me.

:confused: but how do you know that you're compatible across 29 dimensions?

:confused: but how do you know that you're compatible across 29 dimensions?

Interdimensional portals. You open one, take your date through it, check for compatibility.

(It's really more of a third-date activity. First date, coffee. Second date, dinner, movie, possibly nookie. Third date, break out the chanting and the mystic circle -- you have to work up to it.)

The only catch with this method is that you can get through, like, 27 dimensions, and then find out on the 28th that you're incompatible because she's morphed into a penguin. It's such a downer!

e-harmony.com (to mention just one) would beg to differ. Furthermore, my concept is not "narrow". "Narrower", maybe. It leaves the whole right half of the spectrum, at least.Not the whole of the right...just those that fit every criteria. There are right-wingers who are okay with gay marriage, or abortion, or aren't religious. It is much more narrow than you claim. If it wasn't you could just ask "Are you right wing", rather than a 50 question survey.



Let me know the day you start dating someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but does "have a problem with gay marriage."I honestly don't know anyone who has a big problem with gay marriage.

As for the basic concept of your post, my best friend is very, very conservative, yet that doesn't rip us apart. My ex was very religious, yet that didn't split us up. Another ex was hard-core pro-life.

You'll never find a person who agrees on everything.

And as for that last criterion: I intend to raise my kids in a manner that is incompatible with any recognition of so-called same-sex "marriage." And what manner would that be? Waking them up every morning and saying "Breakfast is ready, and oh yeah, God hates fags!"? Can mommy and daddy never have different opinions on something? Can you not explain to your children "I feel this way, and mommy disagrees.", then have further discussion?

It matters very little what you ask, as more likely then not, they will lie about the answers so whats the point?

It matters very little what you ask, as more likely then not, they will lie about the answers so whats the point?You can check consistency over several dates, and find out if you can trust them to lie for you.
Besides, it keeps the conversation going to have some sort of topic; so a range of question in the same line might be usefull.

actually I find the better question is "do you like it when this tickles? Just nod your head, I understand you can't talk right now"

Well, sure...but that might be more of a third-date question than a first-date question. :p

Touche.

I would say, though, that you are probably looking for something different in a relationship that I am

That would, in fact, be pretty much precisely my point. Looking for someone who agrees with me about everything sounds both unappealing and foolish to me.

, or that you and/or your friend had some qualities that overrode the differences in outlook. (Or maybe he was trying to bring a straying lamb back into the fold?)

Heh. Only if there's a new conservative Christian movement called "Hot Makeouts for Jesus," given that our discussions of politics and religion were mostly limited to, "Hey, stop nuking gay whales for Jesus and come to bed already." "Okay!"

Well, sure...but that might be more of a third-date question than a first-date question. :p

Probably yeah, third date. After the light play, but before the cane...

Not the whole of the right...just those that fit every criteria. There are right-wingers who are okay with gay marriage, or abortion, or aren't religious. It is much more narrow than you claim. If it wasn't you could just ask "Are you right wing", rather than a 50 question survey.

"Right" includes center-right. As for being "okay" with things, there's "okay" as in "I don't care either way" and "okay" as in "that's the only way". The former wouldn't be excluded. And as for those who "aren't religious," again, there's "I'm not much of a church-goer" and there's "I'm a silly girl who wants to dance naked in the moonlight without having to become a stripper!" or "There is no God, dammit!" The first wouldn't be excluded, the others would.

I honestly don't know anyone who has a big problem with gay marriage.

I'm sure you'll find some if you look and listen.

As for the basic concept of your post, my best friend is very, very conservative, yet that doesn't rip us apart. My ex was very religious, yet that didn't split us up. Another ex was hard-core pro-life.

You'll never find a person who agrees on everything.

Not the issue. She doesn't have to agree on "everything." She just has to be compatible on basic issues.

And what manner would that be? Waking them up every morning and saying "Breakfast is ready, and oh yeah, God hates fags!"?

Nice try. When the issue arises, they will be told that marriage = one man + one woman, and that those who are attempting to impose their own re-definition of the institution are wrong and must be opposed.

Can mommy and daddy never have different opinions on something? Can you not explain to your children "I feel this way, and mommy disagrees.", then have further discussion?

They can, again as long as they aren't incompatible on basic issues. Her telling me that sexually deviant relationships should be recognized within the scope of "marriage" is one such incompatibility.

Heh. Only if there's a new conservative Christian movement called "Hot Makeouts for Jesus," given that our discussions of politics and religion were mostly limited to, "Hey, stop nuking gay whales for Jesus and come to bed already." "Okay!"

I didn't want to be the one to go there *heh*

Sounds like your ex was down with St. Augustine's prayer: "Lord, give me chastity, but not yet". ;)

:confused: but how do you know that you're compatible across 29 dimensions?

It gets sore.

Either it's dimensional incompatbility (29??? Adventurous...) or lack of lube.

I'm not very good with expressing myself verbally. I think I'll simply walk out to the forest clearing or to a beach dressed in a black suit and top hat, adjusting my monocle as a band I hired starts to play music while walking behind me. If shes still standing there, I can pretty much tell shes of the high standards that I like to people to live up to! That way, even if the date goes bust, I at least had a fun time!

C: You're looking pretty good this evening! *Followed by me brushing some hair back melodramatically*
C: Its only been ten minutes, and I can already tell by the look on your face... That you've fallen madly in love with me!
Q: How do you feel about being tied up?
Q: You won't think less of me when I tell you that this tux is a rental, will you? Not that it is, but I'm just wondering.
Q: How do you feel about traveling around the world with me? Wouldn't that be romantic?
C: Maybe later I'll let you wear the hat. ;)
Q: How do you feel about moé? Schediphilia?
C: I hope you don't find this superficial, but if you lost a few pounds, you'd be perfect.
Q: So got any prospects in the future?... Or is this just about it for you?
Q: You don't mind that I have a scar here, do you? Do you want to touch it?
Q: Wanna tip the band for me? They'll be here all night.
C: You remind me of a girl from one of those dating games I play online. Though I can't tell if you can totally pull it off... Luckily I brought a spare change of clothes just in case!
C: Hey, where are you going?! I thought this relationship meant something to you!


Thats my idea of a perfect date, and the questions and comments involved. As you can probably guess, none of my dates have ever gone that far yet(mostly due to cash restraints, and I don't have enough musically inclined friends for the band). Though heres hoping my perfect date goes off without a hitch, and permanently scars some poor girl, or maybe she'll fall madly in love with me? Though I'm leaning towards a restraining order of some kind.

By the time I'd ask anyone out, I'd have the answers to half the questions.

e-harmony.com (to mention just one) would beg to differ. Furthermore, my concept is not "narrow". "Narrower", maybe. It leaves the whole right half of the spectrum, at least.

It is pretty narrow. And of course, it's your prerogative to make your search as narrow or as wide as you like, but I still find odd the idea of "weeding out" people in the dating pool on, what seems to me, fairly minor, in perspective, issues, before you even get to know them. In any relationship you usually have to put up with a lot of differences of opinion, and it just seems unrealistic to expect to find a 'perfect' partner by weeding out the 'unsuitable' individuals in this way.

Let me know the day you start dating someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but does "have a problem with gay marriage."

Is that so hard to believe? I feel quite strongly that gay marriage is a good idea, and a good advancement in civil rights, but I do know good-looking, funny, amiable girls that don't think it's such a good idea. And while I would want my kids to think my point of view on it, it wouldn't stop me dating a girl that thinks differently to me on that issue.

I suppose it depends what age you are and what you are looking for in a relationship.

If you are looking for someone to settle down with and start a family pretty quickly then certain issues on raising kids ie the opinion on SS marriage would seem pretty important, though trying to weed out every potential partner who doesn't share explicit political ideologies and viewpoints could be more detrimental to the cause than beneficial to it, although that's just my opinion.

If, on the other hand, you intend eventually to settle down and have kids (or not) but it isn't a priority right now, and you want to date people and have fun and enjoy the variety of spending time with different people, then I think 'weeding out' people really isn't the way forward and will afford less happiness than otherwise.

All that said I can completely see the motivation for wanting to eliminate potential partners whom you feel you have no chance of getting along with due to being too different. I guess it all comes down to how realistic your expectations are.

By the time I'd ask anyone out, I'd have the answers to half the questions.

Why? Do you feel so insecure in your beliefs that you couldn't bear to be challenged by the opinions of someone else?

Q: Are you married or otherwise engaged in a relationship?
Q: How old are you?
Q: How mentally stable are you?
Q: Will getting to know you better put me at risk of physical or psychological harm?
Q: What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?
Q: You're not out to steal my soul, are you?
Q: If I'm going to hell, will you join me?
Q: What country would you like to rule once I conquer the world?
Q: You think I'm paranoid, don't you?
C: I reject your reality and substitute my own.
C: Damnit, where are my answer options; it's never like this in dating-sim games.
C: Quiet, I don't want her to know I'm hearing voices.
C: I know what you did last summer... But I don't mind.
C: I'm not crazy, I'm reality-challenged.

Q: Are you married or otherwise engaged in a relationship?
Q: How old are you?
Q: How mentally stable are you?
Q: Will getting to know you better put me at risk of physical or psychological harm?
Q: What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?
Q: You're not out to steal my soul, are you?
Q: If I'm going to hell, will you join me?
Q: What country would you like to rule once I conquer the world?
Q: You think I'm paranoid, don't you?
C: I reject your reality and substitute my own.
C: Damnit, where are my answer options; it's never like this in dating-sim games.
C: Quiet, I don't want her to know I'm hearing voices.
C: I know what you did last summer... But I don't mind.
C: I'm not crazy, I'm reality-challenged.
*Takes notes from Damor*

Don't forget to ask her age twice! She might be jailbait!

I suppose it depends what age you are and what you are looking for in a relationship.

If you are looking for someone to settle down with and start a family pretty quickly then certain issues on raising kids ie the opinion on SS marriage would seem pretty important, though trying to weed out every potential partner who doesn't share explicit political ideologies and viewpoints could be more detrimental to the cause than beneficial to it, although that's just my opinion.

If, on the other hand, you intend eventually to settle down and have kids (or not) but it isn't a priority right now, and you want to date people and have fun and enjoy the variety of spending time with different people, then I think 'weeding out' people really isn't the way forward and will afford less happiness than otherwise.

All that said I can completely see the motivation for wanting to eliminate potential partners whom you feel you have no chance of getting along with due to being too different. I guess it all comes down to how realistic your expectations are.

I'm substantially older than most NSG'ers, so I don't have 30+ years of time to waste ahead of me. As I mentioned before, I've been there, done that, and didn't like the outcomes. Just as an example, I once got involved with a girl who I seemed to get along with. Before we broke up, I found out that she (a) was a switch-hitter and (b) had had two abortions. If I'd known this up front, probably I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, although we did have some fun; there was no long-term potential, getting married would have been a disaster and I'd be paying alimony. So this is the kind of thing I intend to prevent repetitions of.

What time should I be over, and will your wife be joining us? Sorry, couldn't resist! *grin*

Probably. She she joined me when I asked her. *nod*

I'm substantially older than most NSG'ers, so I don't have 30+ years of time to waste ahead of me. As I mentioned before, I've been there, done that, and didn't like the outcomes. Just as an example, I once got involved with a girl who I seemed to get along with. Before we broke up, I found out that she (a) was a switch-hitter and (b) had had two abortions. If I'd known this up front, probably I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, although we did have some fun; there was no long-term potential, getting married would have been a disaster and I'd be paying alimony. So this is the kind of thing I intend to prevent repetitions of.

Sounds fair.

I'm substantially older than most NSG'ers, so I don't have 30+ years of time to waste ahead of me. As I mentioned before, I've been there, done that, and didn't like the outcomes. Just as an example, I once got involved with a girl who I seemed to get along with. Before we broke up, I found out that she (a) was a switch-hitter and (b) had had two abortions. If I'd known this up front, probably I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, although we did have some fun; there was no long-term potential, getting married would have been a disaster and I'd be paying alimony. So this is the kind of thing I intend to prevent repetitions of.

:confused:

Q: What do you think of my disfiguring scar? (If she doesn't like it, then she's shallow and isn't worth my time.)

By a disfiguring scar's very nature, it is not a likeable thing. Hence 'disfiguring'.
How does not liking something make one shallow anyway? Judging someone only based on looks would be shallow I suppose, but not liking a 'disfiguring scar' would hardly be classified as 'shallow' in my still unwritten book.

I'm far too uncomfortable around most people I'm unfamiliar with, so I like to give myself a home-turf advantage to make things fair. I'm not really one for the 'dating scene' so I like to have as much fun on the first date as possible, and I'd usually tell how boring things would be from the way people react to me. I'd rather get things over with, but 'conventional people' really cause me to be uneasy around them.(What are they hiding?!) Just call me old fashioned, but I think everyone who just wants to try out as many people as possible are just asking to get herpes!

Just call me old-fashioned!

Why? Do you feel so insecure in your beliefs that you couldn't bear to be challenged by the opinions of someone else?

No, but I'd want to know them pretty well by the time I ask them out.

lol i don't go on dates with people i don't already think are 'compatable', and i also don't dive headfirst into commitment, so there's always time to find out if we're just not gonna get along, once we start spending more time together.
anyway, it's easy for me to find out who the decent people are- i'm a goth, and i'm completely crazy- when i meet new people, i just act myself. all the people who want to make friends with some guy in black, wearing spikes and chains, and with piercings and long hair, and who is also jibbering away like a very sarcastic monkey on drugs... well, they're generally the people I want to hang out with!
most people just don't approach me coz of my looks. Anyone who judges like that, I don't want to talk to anyway, so suits me ;p what I wear has no reflection upon who I am, except that it shows I don't feel the need to try and 'fit in' with the current fashion. and before anyone starts, I don't 'dress goth' to 'be differant', I wear what I wear because it's what I think looks good, and enjoy on myself and that's all that I care about- no trends, goth trends or mainstream ones.

and... I go out with people that I have feelings for and have feelings for me. So, they're people I already know. I wouldn't go looking for people that were 'compatable' with me, coz that's not how it works, I don't think. I've only ever gone out with one other person who was majorly into heavy metal and was a goth. You don't need to be 'the same' as your other half. I.E., interests, that kinda stuff.

:confused:

Even after I made the cited discoveries, it took a certain length of time to emerge from my besotted state and realize that there was no future in the relationship. Again, had I asked the listed questions, I would have avoided this dead-end and potential (thankfully unrealized) divorce-court ass-rape.

Even after I made the cited discoveries, it took a certain length of time to emerge from my besotted state and realize that there was no future in the relationship. Again, had I asked the listed questions, I would have avoided this dead-end and potential (thankfully unrealized) divorce-court ass-rape.

So.

Wanna get married?

So.

Wanna get married?

When I find Miss Right :D

But that's the whole point of the exercise.

Backtracking now, eh? ;)

Not at all. But you should ask someone else to explain the flathead reference to you so you know I'm not making it up.

http://lessafe.blogspot.com/2007/08/heineken-draftkeg-most-sexist-beer.html

When I find Miss Right :D

But that's the whole point of the exercise.

Marry me!

Not at all. But you should ask someone else to explain the flathead reference to you so you know I'm not making it up.

http://lessafe.blogspot.com/2007/08/heineken-draftkeg-most-sexist-beer.html

Guess I'm just not up to speed on beer jokes or ideal woman jokes.

BTW: that beer commercial's got the best robot girl since Cherry 2000 :D

It's catchy, I'll give it that. And the animation's good.

Excellent post.

Relationships are about compromise and not about just what you want. If you aren't prepared to accept someone else's differences then the dating world isn't going to be a whole lot of fun for you.

Amen.

e-harmony.com (to mention just one) would beg to differ. Furthermore, my concept is not "narrow". "Narrower", maybe. It leaves the whole right half of the spectrum, at least.

Certainly not the whole of the right half. There's no dividing line, anyway. For someone to fit into the very small box you've crafted, you're looking for a sliver of the overall pie chart. Some people consider themselves conservative on most issues and liberal on others. In fact, most people are some kind of that mix. Polarization is for people without subtlety, honesty or the ability to reason.

Incidentally, you never let me know what you thought of my interpolated responses to your questions.

Let me know the day you start dating someone who is beautiful, makes you laugh, and challenges you, but does "have a problem with gay marriage."

Good point -- someone that makes me laugh couldn't possibly have a problem with two people being happy AND legally protected in their life partnership, regardless of gender.

And as for that last criterion: I intend to raise my kids in a manner that is incompatible with any recognition of so-called same-sex "marriage."

You and many other conservative parents of gay children, right Newt? Right Dick? You can "intend" all you want, but eventually they'll get to think for themselves. Or they'll get a teacher who doesn't push any agenda, but actively defends the slagging of anyone's point of view outside the context of a genuine discussion. In my classroom, I reprimand the student who uses "gay" to mean "stupid" as well as those using blasphemy just to be irritating.

You never know how many non-partisan yet even-handed authority figures there are out there.

Naw, there are plenty of women who fully meet my criteria. And not, pace LG, just Ann Coulter (personally I'd prefer Michelle Malkin--if she weren't married already).

Thou sayest.

:confused: but how do you know that you're compatible across 29 dimensions?

Ask a String Theorist?

Guess I'm just not up to speed on beer jokes or ideal woman jokes.

BTW: that beer commercial's got the best robot girl since Cherry 2000 :D

Aw, jeez, you HAD to mention that movie? Ugh. Whoever thought Melanie Griffith could pull off an action film was high enough to not need satellite help on a cell phone call.

Yeah, those are old jokes. Flat head and four feet tall, so's you could set your beer on her head (while she blows you). So old, in fact, that it's surprising you hadn't heard them. Amusing the way you leapt to the defensive, though. We are who we are...but sometimes, we need to watch that.

It's catchy, I'll give it that. And the animation's good.

I think it's a seamless hybrid between CGI (obviously -- the womb keg has yet to be invented, but in a pharmaceutical world that gave us Viagra before an effective AIDS vaccine, I can only imagine the zymurgihysteron will hit the market soon), and live-action or motion-capture film. The woman's face and visible skin are too good to be CGI and I think I can spot the makeup grain patterns on the face in close ups. Either that or if it is full CGI, Heineken spent a fortune.

When I find Miss Right :D

Remember her first name is Always

Remember her first name is Always

Whoa, that applies to all women. Haven't you ever read "The Rules"?

http://www.translatum.gr/forum/index.php?topic=1380.0

http://www.larryelder.com/humor/rules.htm

And as for that last criterion: I intend to raise my kids in a manner that is incompatible with any recognition of so-called same-sex "marriage."


And here I have been counting on people like you to not reproduce.



Its gonna be fun when your kid gets old enough to think for himself and read things that arent neo con fundie approved. I almost wish Id be able to see it.

Even after I made the cited discoveries, it took a certain length of time to emerge from my besotted state and realize that there was no future in the relationship. Again, had I asked the listed questions, I would have avoided this dead-end and potential (thankfully unrealized) divorce-court ass-rape.

So what you are saying is that if you married someone and then years down the road discovered that they had had an abortion before you even met her, you'd divorce her?

So what you are saying is that if you married someone and then years down the road discovered that they had had an abortion before you even met her, you'd divorce her?

If it got to that point, and especially if there were any children involved, I would probably stick it out and wouldn't file for divorce. But I would never look at her the same way again. Especially if she were unrepentant about it.

But now that you bring it up, I think I'm making an addition to my list:

Q: Roe v. Wade was an abomination, don't you agree?

If it got to that point, and especially if there were any children involved, I would probably stick it out and wouldn't file for divorce. But I would never look at her the same way again. Especially if she were unrepentant about it.

But now that you bring it up, I think I'm making an addition to my list:

Q: Roe v. Wade was an abomination, don't you agree?

At least you're honest and open about being shallow and unforgiving...
:rolleyes:

If it got to that point, and especially if there were any children involved, I would probably stick it out and wouldn't file for divorce. But I would never look at her the same way again. Especially if she were unrepentant about it.

But now that you bring it up, I think I'm making an addition to my list:

Q: Roe v. Wade was an abomination, don't you agree?

And agreeing with that statement would instantly flag her as knowing nothing about the case (or other cases that were actually much more significant), legal proceedings or the Constitution.


Hey, shed be just like you! Good addition.

Whoa, that applies to all women. Haven't you ever read "The Rules"?

http://www.translatum.gr/forum/index.php?topic=1380.0

http://www.larryelder.com/humor/rules.htm

I was about to say I know all the rules, but then I remembered no man can never know all the rules

At least you're honest and open about being shallow and unforgiving...
:rolleyes:

1) Forgiving requires repenting.
2) Forgiving does not equal, nor does it include, forgetting.
3) "Shallow" is libspeak for having no absolute values, an attitude which of course I reject.

1) Forgiving requires repenting.
No, it doesn't.
2) Forgiving does not equal, nor does it include, forgetting.
And?
3) "Shallow" is libspeak for having no absolute values, an attitude which of course I reject.
:rolleyes:



Edit: You also seem to be ignoring the possibility that the (theoretical) girl in question could have 'repented' about having an abortion.

1) Forgiving requires repenting.

Not really.

2) Forgiving does not equal, nor does it include, forgetting.

For us grown ups it does.


3) "Shallow" is libspeak for having no absolute values, an attitude which of course I reject.

Oh my. What a sad, delusional little man you are.

No, it doesn't.

Actually, it does.

As Dante well stated, "ch'assolver non si può chi non si pente," or, "For who repents not cannot be absolved." (Inferno, Canto XXVII, v. 118).

Edit: You also seem to be ignoring the possibility that the (theoretical) girl in question could have 'repented' about having an abortion.

Read again, please:

If it got to that point, and especially if there were any children involved, I would probably stick it out and wouldn't file for divorce. But I would never look at her the same way again. Especially if she were unrepentant about it.

Note that I said I probably wouldn't seek a divorce. What would change is how I looked at her. If she was repentant, I would most likely forgive her, but I would always know that she had killed that baby. If she was unrepentant, I would definitely think less of her. And I would expect that she would be aware of the probability that I would so view her, since I certainly would have expressed my view on abortion somewhere along the line.

Actually, it does.

As Dante well stated, "ch'assolver non si può chi non si pente," or, "For who repents not cannot be absolved." (Inferno, Canto XXVII, v. 118).

What a remarkable source of inspiration...
:rolleyes:

Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

What a remarkable source of inspiration...
:rolleyes:

Nothing in the cited passages negates the need for repentance. Furthermore, the citation from Dante is fully consistent with church teachings on the matter. I simply cited it because it's a concise statement, and it sounds good in Italian ;)

I maintain: forgiveness requires repentance.

Nothing in the cited passages negates the need for repentance. Furthermore, the citation from Dante is fully consistent with church teachings on the matter. I simply cited it because it's a concise statement, and it sounds good in Italian ;)

I maintain: forgiveness requires repentance.

Because Dante said so or because it suits your petty nature?

If it got to that point, and especially if there were any children involved, I would probably stick it out and wouldn't file for divorce. But I would never look at her the same way again. Especially if she were unrepentant about it.

But now that you bring it up, I think I'm making an addition to my list:

Q: Roe v. Wade was an abomination, don't you agree?

I think that, instead of asking these questions on a date, even a first date, you should print your questions on a shirt or jacket-back and wear it as much as you can. That way, when you chat someone up, you'll save many women the gas or public transportation fare, time, money and effort to get to the first date. If I were a woman of any intelligence and took the time to clean up nice for a date and discover the Spanish Inquisition when I get there, I'd be highly pissed that I went all that way to be interrogated.

That's not even a joke. Before you ask anyone out, let 'em know. It's a courtesy not to waste peoples' time. That's not judgment on your standards, that's just efficiency.

Because Dante said so or because it suits your petty nature?

My "nature" has nothing to do with it. Neither does yours. Stick to the issue.

And since you are fond of citing Scripture, consider the following citations, which are directly pertinent to the point at hand (and with which the citation from Dante is fully consistent), rather than generalized admonitions:

"Repent of this wickedness of yours and pray to the Lord that, if possible, your intention may be forgiven." Acts 8:22

"Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he wrongs you seven times in one day and returns to you seven times saying, "I am sorry," you should forgive him." Luke 17:3-4.

Point established.

My "nature" has nothing to do with it. Neither does yours. Stick to the issue.
Your nature has everything to do with it.
And since you are fond of citing Scripture, consider the following citations, which are directly pertinent to the point at hand (and with which the citation from Dante is fully consistent), rather than generalized admonitions:

"Repent of this wickedness of yours and pray to the Lord that, if possible, your intention may be forgiven." Acts 8:22

"Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he wrongs you seven times in one day and returns to you seven times saying, "I am sorry," you should forgive him." Luke 17:3-4.

Point established.

lol

Your nature has everything to do with it.


lol

"Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose any more. Good-bye." --HAL 9000

"Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose any more. Good-bye." --HAL 9000

It didn't serve any purpose to begin with.