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Calling all members of the revolutionary left

Great Brit land
11-04-2008, 09:38
Hi i am new here (no shit sherlock) but i was wondering how many people here are members of the revolutionary left. (or even hang out at www.revleft.com). It would be interesting to see how many people there are here I know from other forums.
Andaras
11-04-2008, 09:50
I was, got restricted for my 'Stalinist' views.
Call to power
11-04-2008, 10:07
I'm sorry but there is nothing "revolutionary" about that site

then again the whole hammer and sickle thing is so overdone it is the man/government/mainstream society/parents :p

I was, got restricted for my 'Stalinist' views.

irony?
Andaras
11-04-2008, 10:15
I'm sorry but there is nothing "revolutionary" about that site

then again the whole hammer and sickle thing is so overdone it is the man/government/mainstream society/parents :p



irony?
Not really, most of revleft are infantile liberals who attack real attempts to build socialism more than they attack bourgeois society.
Call to power
11-04-2008, 10:20
Not really, most of revleft are infantile liberals who attack real attempts to build socialism more than they attack bourgeois society.

ah, teenagers you say

maybe a poll should be made of all those that have a job? *plots attack*
Cameroi
11-04-2008, 12:14
i'm all for seeing an end to the loonacy that calls itself political 'conservatism', but i'm not for anybody shooting anybody over it, nor tearing everything up so everybody ends up having to live with nothing but a bunch of torn up crap.

i think "revolutionary left" is almost a contradiction in therms. none of that violence and destructinveness crap has a damd thing to do with any kind of 'left' i'm interested in. to me, i see that as being just as far 'right' as the neo-conservative's own insanity.

i mean that kind of crap just keeps perpetuating the same thing.

i'm not interested in a self perpetuatin POSE of being anti-pseudo-conservative, i want to see an end to all of this crap of tearing everything up, for ANY idiology.

i mean there's a lot of stuff that tears things up we could live without making, but big piles of torn up crap, arn't going to bennifit anybody, and neither is a kind of political inquasition of the left, any more so then of the right.

now repealing building codes and opening borders and things like that, THAT i'm all in favor of. and not kissing the ass of economic intrests i'm in favor of too.

but this 'glorious revolution' as an end in and of itself kind of nonsense.
that doesn't get anybody anywhere. its just another kind of dogma and excuse for more of the same kind of nonsense.

a differnt kind of excuse from what this world is currently dominated by, granted, but still an excuse for exactly the same damd nonsense.

we don't need revolutions any more then we really need governmens as we know them as such either. what we need is environmentally harmonious infrastructure and allowing and encouraging people to permit themselves to enjoy whatever intellectual and creative capacities they may happen to have.

=^^=
.../\...
Rambhutan
11-04-2008, 12:55
I am not, nor have I ever been a member of the revolutionary left.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-04-2008, 12:56
we don't need revolutions any more then we really need governmens as we know them as such either. what we need is environmentally harmonious infrastructure and allowing and encouraging people to permit themselves to enjoy whatever intellectual and creative capacities they may happen to have.

=^^=
.../\...

That and tacos. *nod*
Call to power
11-04-2008, 13:00
That and tacos. *nod*

but you can't have a taco without breaking wind;)
Dreilyn
11-04-2008, 13:08
Hi i am new here (no shit sherlock) but i was wondering how many people here are members of the revolutionary left.
Not me. 'Right' and 'left' are so meaningless these days, they're just an attempt to restrict political debate to two simplistic polarities - "you're with me or against me" - but no-one seems to be able to decide exactly what each side involves, except that each hates the proponents of the other.

I prefer not to restrict myself according to some dated scale of left and right. I make up my own mind about each issue without waiting for some vaguely-defined group to tell me how I ought to feel.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-04-2008, 13:09
Don't think of it as breaking wind. Think of it as a call to arms against the Bourgeois elite. *nod*
Rambhutan
11-04-2008, 13:13
Don't think of it as breaking wind. Think of it as a call to arms against the Bourgeois elite. *nod*

As in "Mommy I think the dog has just made another call to arms against the Bourgeois elite"? Provided it isn't a capitalist running dog of course.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-04-2008, 13:16
As in "Mommy I think the dog has just made another call to arms against the Bourgeois elite"? Provided it isn't a capitalist running dog of course.

All dogs are natural marxists. All cats are natural aristocracy. *nod*
Rambhutan
11-04-2008, 13:17
All dogs are natural marxists. All cats are natural aristocracy. *nod*

I think my neon tetras have anarcho-syndicalist leanings.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-04-2008, 13:27
I think my neon tetras have anarcho-syndicalist leanings.

Very astute observation.
Ashmoria
11-04-2008, 14:06
i have 2 left handed siblings. can i be considered a lefty sympathizer?
Gwljdodnfyglijjijip
11-04-2008, 14:38
I'm a member of the revolutionary right. We seek to overthrow existing social institutions through peaceful or violent means to establish a new, glorious, beautiful utopia of an ecclesiastical-corporate monocracy dominated by the wealthy, in which women are subserviated to men and those icky gay people are dumped into the sea for the glory of God. And we'll get rid of that devil-worshipping metal, too.
Risottia
11-04-2008, 14:55
www.revleft.com)

Have had a quick peep. Looks halfway between radical-chic and trockism. :p
Andaluciae
11-04-2008, 15:10
You'd think these people were halfway to initiating a urban guerrilla revolution, given the way they talked, lol.
Vespertilia
11-04-2008, 15:21
I took a peer on thet revleft. I'm somewhere between LOL and OMG.
Jello Biafra
11-04-2008, 16:28
Violent revolution is unacceptable. Peaceful revolution or secession is fine. Put me down in the latter leftist camp.
Knights of Liberty
11-04-2008, 17:18
I'm a member of the revolutionary right. We seek to overthrow existing social institutions through peaceful or violent means to establish a new, glorious, beautiful utopia of an ecclesiastical-corporate monocracy dominated by the wealthy, in which women are subserviated to men and those icky gay people are dumped into the sea for the glory of God. And we'll get rid of that devil-worshipping metal, too.

Are you the Pat Robertson? :p
Trotskylvania
11-04-2008, 17:23
Meh. I'd rather just stay here. Better range of things to discuss, and a whole lot smarter group of revolutionary leftists.
Heikoku
11-04-2008, 17:26
I'm from the Shining South. Does that count?

(Cookie for whoever gets the reference)
Greater Trostia
11-04-2008, 17:29
I was, got restricted for my 'Stalinist' views.

Why do you put 'Stalinist' in quotes? You're a Stalinist, plain and simple. You made a freaking thread praising "Comrade Stalin." You make excuses for his crimes. You laud him, his methods and ideology.

You're a Stalinist.
Gwljdodnfyglijjijip
11-04-2008, 17:31
Are you the Pat Robertson? :p

No, because he's obviously a homosexual communist furry sympathizer under his mask. Just listen to the obvious innuendo and subliminal messages in some of the otherwise "righteous" statements he makes. He is a class traitor, as are just about everyone who doesn't post on MY forum, and will be eliminated when we take control of the world's armies and destroy all social institutions to make them anew in the favour of the LORD, without sin, and without poor people.
Agenda07
11-04-2008, 17:40
All dogs are natural marxists. All cats are natural aristocracy. *nod*

Really? I've always thought of dogs as Conservatives: they hate change. :p
Silver Star HQ
11-04-2008, 18:21
Really? I've always thought of dogs as Conservatives: they hate change. :p

Or, for that matter, waking up.
United Chicken Kleptos
11-04-2008, 18:53
Hi i am new here (no shit sherlock) but i was wondering how many people here are members of the revolutionary left. (or even hang out at www.revleft.com). It would be interesting to see how many people there are here I know from other forums.

COMMUNISMCOMMUNISMCOMMUNISMCOMMUNISMMCCARTHY!!!!
New Genoa
11-04-2008, 18:59
Viva la revolucion!!

<3 castro
<3 chavez
<3 che

:sniper:

DEATH TO CAPITALISM! *goes to buy che shirts from a corporate entity*
Andaluciae
11-04-2008, 19:10
Their forum rules are, to those with dissenting opinions, quite...inviting :rolleyes:


This Community is open to all leftists. Right-wingers are not welcome, but tolerated within the 'Opposing Ideologies' forum. Right-wing messages will be ignored or deleted in all other forums and the author will be banned. If you are a right-winger or convinced capitalist and can accept this rule, good. If not, fuck off and never come back!

Note: Fascists of all kinds are not allowed to post on RevLeft. This includes 'National Bolsheviks', 'third positionists' and all other pseudo-leftist fascists. Known fascists are not allowed to post here, no matter what they post.

They are absolutely fucking obsessed with "fascists". I didn't even realize that fascism was a viable political ideology in the west these days.
Mad hatters in jeans
11-04-2008, 19:21
Well both my parents are left-handed, so i suppose you could argue i have a leftern mindset.
No i'm not a 'revolutionary' left, i would make them look pathetic, i am everything! everything.

{note, my apparent scewing of the question, and humour injected into the second sentance show a reluctance to answer the question, giving rise to possible insecurities into political affliction.}
New Malachite Square
11-04-2008, 19:25
They are absolutely fucking obsessed with "fascists". I didn't even realize that fascism was a viable political ideology in the west these days.

An easy rule to enforce, then.
Dontgonearthere
11-04-2008, 19:44
Rise up, garage dwelling 14-21 year olds of the world! You have nothing to lose but your parents medical insurance!
Free Soviets
11-04-2008, 20:11
I didn't even realize that fascism was a viable political ideology in the west these days.

it does alright when it isn't called 'fascism'
Soheran
11-04-2008, 20:13
I participated briefly a few years ago.
Cypresaria
12-04-2008, 01:06
I'd love to join

Except the irony of the revolutionary left is that they seem to spend more time fighting with each other than they do planning the revolution. :rolleyes:
Yootopia
12-04-2008, 01:27
Aah, the British Left. Morons.

Incidentally :

@ RevLeft

Opposing Ideologies
Forum for opposing ideologies and beliefs to be discussed; only forum where right-wingers, capitalists, preachers, primitivists, and other restricted members can post. *No Fascists*

How is this different from the Stormfront 'Opposing Ideologies' stuff?

"You can say what you like until we disagree, at which point you can shut the fuck up" is ridiculous for a site claiming to be revolutionary, no?
Soheran
12-04-2008, 01:30
"You can say what you like until we disagree, at which point you can shut the fuck up" is ridiculous for a site claiming to be revolutionary, no?

Not at all. They want to maintain a forum for discussion among revolutionary leftists. There are other places to argue politics more broadly.

Do political groups in general let in whoever?
Yootopia
12-04-2008, 01:30
They are absolutely fucking obsessed with "fascists". I didn't even realize that fascism was a viable political ideology in the west these days.
Fascism's pretty viable if you call it something else. What they will probably state to be "Fascists" are racists like the BNP, NPD and so on and so forth, which I'd agree are disgraceful.

Fascism's got nothing to do with this by itself - indeed Italy under Fascism resisted anti-Semitism for 16 of its years, and there were several high-powered Jews in the Fascist Party until 1938, when the race laws were brought in there, basically at Hitler's behest. *sighs at Italian Fascism after 1936, when it became stupid*
Yootopia
12-04-2008, 01:32
Not at all. They want to maintain a forum for discussion among revolutionary leftists. There are other places to argue politics more broadly.

Do political groups in general let in whoever?
You call a site 'RevLeft' and you'll get a lot of revolutionary lefties on it. If you had opposition types posting more generally, you'd probably get a stronger forum overall, as people would have something decent to rebound off, instead of arguing Marxist semantics, no?
Soheran
12-04-2008, 01:39
If you had opposition types posting more generally, you'd probably get a stronger forum overall, as people would have something decent to rebound off, instead of arguing Marxist semantics, no?

Probably, yes. As it is, RevLeft is dreadfully boring.