NationStates Jolt Archive

Yes, this is slightly old news, but I just found out about it.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush on Wednesday authorized military assistance to Kosovo, which declared its independence from Serbia last month.

Bush signed a Presidential Determination granting Kosovo eligibility to receive defense articles and defense services under the Foreign Assistance Act and the Arms Export Control Act, which require that the president determine that military assistance "will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace."
link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jaetUyuHV7jY_ybwes7CHqMb4DqQD8VGOHPG0)

I don't see how selling weapons to Kosovo "will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace." Could someone explain to me how this would work?
What do you think? Is this just another case of Dubya trying to pad the pockets of his 'corporate buddies'?

Yes, this is slightly old news, but I just found out about it.


link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jaetUyuHV7jY_ybwes7CHqMb4DqQD8VGOHPG0)

I don't see how selling weapons to Kosovo "will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace." Could someone explain to me how this would work?
What do you think? Is this just another case of Dubya trying to pad the pockets of his 'corporate buddies'?

Has Bush done anything to strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace since becoming President? Why start now? :p

Has Bush done anything to strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace since becoming President? Why start now? :p

No, and to be different?

I also like how the title of the article is "Bush offers military help to Kosovo" when it really should be "Bush sells weapons to Kosovo".

Has Bush done anything to strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace since becoming President? Why start now? :p

The Bush 2 administration has been the closest thing in real life to a Peter Griffin presidency.

... nice one there.

We'll be seeing large amount of US Kit in the hands of the Italian Mafia in a couple of years tops, then. *sighs*

Whaddayaknow, supporting the illegal Kosovar independence is done with ulterior, military motives vying to weaken a Russian ally and introduce an even larger military presence, be it by proxy (so far), in the area?

Whod've thunk?

We'll be seeing large amount of US Kit in the hands of the Italian Mafia in a couple of years tops, then. *sighs*

It's funny, 'cause it's true. :\

... nice one there.

We'll be seeing large amount of US Kit in the hands of the Italian Mafia in a couple of years tops, then. *sighs*

Greaaat. What's Italian for "Say 'Hello' to my little friend"?

Yes, this is slightly old news, but I just found out about it.


link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jaetUyuHV7jY_ybwes7CHqMb4DqQD8VGOHPG0)

I don't see how selling weapons to Kosovo "will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace." Could someone explain to me how this would work?


It doesn't. Bush is just mimicking sounds that he's heard.

Bush wants to guarantee the safety of this new Kosovo, which sounds reasonable, because any sovereign state has the right to have defence forces and a military. In the past, the Serbian army raided Kosovo. And of course, this is a small boost for American arms industry. His argument is strange, though.

Oh my! George W. Bush is going to further destabilize the world to the benefit of the politically-connected! I never would have seen that coming.

And in a few years, they'll want to invade Kosovo, cause they have really bad weapons! :o

Sounds familair, anyone?:rolleyes:

I have no problem with the US selling weapons to Kosovo. Surprisingly...

Greaaat. What's Italian for "Say 'Hello' to my little friend"?

Dica 'ciao 'al mio amico piccolo!

This will worsen regional security, not improve it.

Oh my! George W. Bush is going to further destabilize the world to the benefit of the politically-connected! I never would have seen that coming.

Well, you should have.

Yes I realize it was sarcasm Venndee...

Oh my! George W. Bush is going to further destabilize the world to the benefit of the politically-connected! I never would have seen that coming.

God for forbid, Dubya might be trying to do some good in the world in last year. The Serbians have tried to ethnicaly purge the Albanians more than once. Giving weapons to defenceless people so they can defend themselves is a good thing.

God for forbid, Dubya might be trying to do some good in the world in last year. The Serbians have tried to ethnicaly purge the Albanians more than once. Giving weapons to defenceless people so they can defend themselves is a good thing.

Haha, defenceless Albanians? Bwahahaha...

Its a proxy war in the making.


Its been a long time since we've had a good proxy war...

The U.S. should have never recognized Kosovo in the first place.

The U.S. should have never recognized Kosovo in the first place.

Why not?

The Balkans was far better under socialism, it kept the detestable rabid racism and nationalism repressed as it should be.

it kept the detestable populace repressed as it should be.
Fixed. This is what you really meant, wasn't it?

Fixed. This is what you really meant, wasn't it?

I'd prefer if you didn't edit my quotes thanks.

I'd prefer if you didn't edit my quotes thanks, unless its funny of course.

:D

Good. We should do all we can to help Kosovo secure their independence.

The U.S. should have never recognized Kosovo in the first place.

Why do you think so? Why shouldn't a region have the right to secede from the greater country if it believes that it would be better off making decisions on its own, especially when considering that over 90% of Kosovo's inhabitants are Albanian?

I think a "wait and see" approach would have been better. Plus, I'm damn sick and tired of us meddling in places we shouldn't be meddling in.

:D

lmao

God for forbid, Dubya might be trying to do some good in the world in last year.

I think he always has tried to do some good in the world. The problem is that he just fucks everything up. This would fall under the same principle as before.

The Serbians have tried to ethnicaly purge the Albanians more than once. Giving weapons to defenceless people so they can defend themselves is a good thing.

Giving weapons to Pristina will only heighten anti-Western sentiment in Serbia and Russia which will serve to bring us even closer to a new Cold War and the centralization of power that results from it. Serbia knows that the Federal government has no compunction against murdering their citizens ("accidentally", of course), and as such are hardly likely to try anything. And as for defending innocent people, if the West was truly interested in that they would have allowed for a partition of Kosovo so that the Kosovar Serbs could be under Belgrade's jurisdiction instead of Pristina, which hasn't done shit to protect them. More likely, this is geopolitcally oriented towards hegemony of the Balkans and a foot in the door for subsidized arms deals for the benefit of the MIC.

This will worsen regional security, not improve it.

yes because regional security was so much better when Serbia, was armed with Russian Weapons and no one else could compete.

God for forbid, Dubya might be trying to do some good in the world in last year. The Serbians have tried to ethnicaly purge the Albanians more than once. Giving weapons to defenceless people so they can defend themselves is a good thing.
Ethnic cleansing was a two-way street, and just keep in mind that the guy running Kosovo, Hacim Thaci, is also the 'ex'-leader of the Kosovan Mafia. If you know anything about Albania, you'll know it's an Italian mafia handout.

As soon as the US sends its guns over, they'll be sold onto the Italian mafia. This is all.

lmao

I couldn't resist. ;)

Ethnic cleansing was a two-way street, and just keep in mind that the guy running Kosovo, Hacim Thaci, is also the 'ex'-leader of the Kosovan Mafia. If you know anything about Albania, you'll know it's an Italian mafia handout.

As soon as the US sends its guns over, they'll be sold onto the Italian mafia. This is all.

selling arms does not mean we are selling the classified stuff.
Besides it is about time Italy dealt with a mafia armed with tanks.

selling arms does not mean we are selling the classified stuff.
Well yes, it's not like Kosovo has the money for that, either.
Besides it is about time Italy dealt with a mafia armed with tanks.
The Mafia won't have tanks, they'll just get a bunch of M4 carbines, I'd imagine. Maybe some older stuff like the LAWs which need selling off. Tanks would be a bit conspicuous, and would lead to trouble from the government, even in Napoli.