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A COUPLE who won £100k on a scratchcard and blew it in a year are now whingeing that a local council won’t give them housing benefit.

Grasping John and Louise Nickels moan they can’t afford the £82-a-week rent for their £400,000 council flat.

They moved in before the October 2006 win and paid off hundreds in rent arrears.

Their benefit was then stopped but they still claim £90 a week incapacity benefit.

They blew the £100k on a £20,000 caravan, hols, home makeover, car, TV, fishing gear and playing FRUIT MACHINES.

In Florida they visited Universal Studios and SeaWorld and took two HELICOPTER trips.

The scroungers – who haven’t worked for years and have an unemployed son Paul, 25 – are also going to Turkey in May.

But when their cash ran out last November, Louise, 47, of Fulham, West London, contacted Hammersmith and Fulham Council for benefit.

They were turned down because they could not account for £29,580 withdrawn from cash machines and £12,000 moved to a new account.

He added: “We can’t prove we’ve spent all the money.

"They want receipts for everything.

John, 52, is fuming and they have refused to pay rent since February.

“A lot went on general living. A pint costs £3 and when two of you go out, money doesn’t go far.

"You can spend £30 without batting an eyelid and my wife has a love of fruit machines. I can’t get her off them.”

John has been off work for years with a frozen shoulder, a condition easily treated with anti-inflammatory drugs.

Louise claims she is waiting for a hip replacement op.

A council spokesman confirmed a housing benefit application had been turned down, but could not comment further.


link (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article983713.ece)

Hell, this makes MY head explode.


Its retards like this that give the people who genuinly need welfare a bad name.


*mutters profanities*

Well, they clearly should have more money - That is, there's cash that's unaccounted for.

Not to mention the 'disabilities' are hardly permanent and should be treated, as a condition to getting benefits.

I'm sorry but:
http://www.slapyo.com/wp-content/thumb-owltards.jpg
Or, perhaps it should now read one more.

Yep, they're twats.

So what exactly is the title meant to say?

So what exactly is the title meant to say?
"Who wants to see TheBlessedChris' head explode?"

What the fuck are fruit machines?

Quick! To the Wikimobile!!! *bolts*

Edit: Ah. in the US, we call it GAYDAR. *nod*

Though I suspect it may refer to slot machines instead. Hehehe.

What the fuck are fruit machines?
Slot machines. But with more buttons and such, because this makes them harder to win at when drunk.

What the fuck are fruit machines?

Quick! To the Wikimobile!!! *bolts*

USians call them "slot machines." The other name comes from the spinning fruit one hopes will match up.

edit to add: Do we really need more threads to incite our rightous indignation?

Now then...why have I not seen TBC, or more importantly, his exploding head?

"Who wants to see TheBlessedChris' head explode?"I guessed that much. The general meaning and relevance to the posted news article still eludes me.
Edit: Ah. in the US, we call it GAYDAR. *nod*I daresay you are mistaken on that account. Gay RADAR has a more fitting name:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/TDS-homometer.jpg

I guessed that much. The general meaning and relevance to the posted news article still eludes me.
TheBlessedChris gets annoyed by people getting unemployment benefits, council housing etc. to begin with.

These people are asking for a council house after winning £100,000 because they 'can't afford' to get a proper house, and can't live in their £20,0000 caravan for some reason.

TheBlessedChris will be most upset at this. His head may explode.

There we go.

I guessed that much. The general meaning and relevance to the posted news article still eludes me.
I daresay you are mistaken on that account. Gay RADAR has a more fitting name:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/TDS-homometer.jpg

Apparently, TBC likes to have his righteous indignation incited. I've never paid that much attention, to be frank. Oh, and he's British, so it's his tax dollars a wastin'.

Apparently, TBC likes to have his righteous indignation incited. I've never paid that much attention, to be frank. Oh, and he's British, so it's his tax dollars a wastin'.Last time I checked, they used pounds, so it'll hardly be his tax dollars =P

I suppose I remember TBC primarily as someone that has wet dreams of a New British Empire, which is why that didn't register.

Apparently, TBC likes to have his righteous indignation incited. I've never paid that much attention, to be frank. Oh, and he's British, so it's his tax dollars a wastin'.
He's a student and hence doesn't pay taxes. But SSSHHHH, because he can get upset on everyone else's behalf instead. Also, we pay our taxes in Pounds Sterling, none of yer dollars pish.

He's a student and hence doesn't pay taxes. But SSSHHHH, because he can get upset on everyone else's behalf instead. Also, we pay our taxes in Pounds Sterling, none of yer dollars pish.

D'oh! *is suitalby ashamed* They're doing a might better than the ol' $, right now, too ;)

D'oh! *is suitalby ashamed* They're doing a might better than the ol' $, right now, too ;)
Seeing as the Swiss Franc is rapidly attaining the value of a dollar, I'd have to agree.

What the fuck are fruit machines?

Quick! To the Wikimobile!!! *bolts*

Edit: Ah. in the US, we call it GAYDAR. *nod*

Homophobia. Très funny.

Homophobia. Très funny.

Jokes. Très funny.

Jokes. Très funny.

Yes, "jokes" like calling gay men "fruits". "Funny" on some primary school yard or a KKK meeting, somewhere.

Yes, "jokes" like calling gay men "fruits". "Funny" on some primary school yard or a KKK meeting, somewhere.

What have you got up your ass?


Oh wait...;)


See, jokes are funny. Ha ha ha.

Yes, "jokes" like calling gay men "fruits". "Funny" on some primary school yard or a KKK meeting, somewhere.More of a joke on vocabulary and connotated meanings of words...

More of a joke on vocabulary and connotated meanings of words...

... making it less homophobic, how? "Höhö, fruit! Like those fags!"

What have you got up your ass?
Oh wait...

See? First juvenile, then infantile. And it's supposed to be a "joke" so the homophobia that lies at the base of it is somehow made acceptable so one doesn't have to think about the ugliness of it and that gay kids here might actually read it. Because they certainly don't get enough of it at school.

... making it less homophobic, how? "Höhö, fruit! Like those fags!"



See? First juvenile, then infantile. And it's supposed to be a "joke" so the homophobia that lies at the base of it is somehow made acceptable so one doesn't have to think about the ugliness of it and that gay kids here might actually read it? Because they certainly don't get enough of it at school.

:rolleyes:


Neither LG nor I are homophobic. Just pointing at someone and yelling "HOMOPHOBE HOMOPHOBE!!!!" does not prove anything.

If you cant laugh at yourself, I pity you. I chuckle at the jokes about America. I chuckle at the jokes about the Irish and the Italians. I can laugh at myself. Or are homosexuals off limits suddenly?

If you cant laugh at yourself, I pity you. I chuckle at the jokes about America. I chuckle at the jokes about the Irish and the Italians. I can laugh at myself. Or are homosexuals off limits suddenly?

Yes! You can mock people of other nationalitys like FASS does, but as soon as you start even making light-hearted jokes about homosexuels you become an evil Neocon homophobe. Didn't you already know that? :rolleyes: Not rolling eyes at you. Rolling my eyes at FASS.

Anyway, these people are victims! Victims of their own stupidity. :D

:rolleyes:


Neither LG nor I are homophobic. Just pointing at someone and yelling "HOMOPHOBE HOMOPHOBE!!!!" does not prove anything.

If you cant laugh at yourself, I pity you. I chuckle at the jokes about America. I chuckle at the jokes about the Irish and the Italians. I can laugh at myself. Or are homosexuals off limits suddenly?

Well, Fass can be a little touchy at times...

Seriously Fass, relax a bit, getting upset about something that LG posts is a little ridiculous, yes?

Yes! You can mock people of other nationalitys like FASS does, but as soon as you start even making light-hearted jokes about homosexuels you become an evil Neocon homophobe. Didn't you already know that? :rolleyes: Not rolling eyes at you. Rolling my eyes at FASS.

Thats the delicious irony. Fass is a eurocentric nationalist boarding on bigotry. I do recall his totally hilarious joke in the thread about Youtube going down in Pakistan. He said "They have computers in Pakistan?" Or his constant trolling about religion being a "fairy tale" even when the thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.


Oh, but he was probabl just joking. Which is ok. You can make fun of brown non-Europians and the religious, but not gay people. Or Sweden.

Neither LG nor I are homophobic.

You just say homophobic things and think they're funny. Right.

If you cant laugh at yourself, I pity you.

I can laugh at myself. I cannot laugh at your homophobic remarks, since they don't say anything about me, but they do say a lot about you and I don't laugh at such sadness.

You just say homophobic things and think they're funny. Right.


I also make Irish jokes, jokes about American, and jokes about white people and think theyre funny. Am I self loathing as well?


I can laugh at myself. I cannot laugh at your homophobic remarks, since they don't say anything about me, but they do say a lot about you and I don't laugh at such sadness.

:rolleyes:

Again, just yelling HOMOPHOBE at something doesnt make it true.


Also, because I think it sums up what a blatant hypocrit you are:


Thats the delicious irony. Fass is a eurocentric nationalist boarding on bigotry. I do recall his totally hilarious joke in the thread about Youtube going down in Pakistan. He said "They have computers in Pakistan?" Or his constant trolling about religion being a "fairy tale" even when the thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.


Oh, but he was probabl just joking. Which is ok. You can make fun of brown non-Europians and the religious, but not gay people. Or Sweden.

Seriously Fass, relax a bit, getting upset about something that LG posts is a little ridiculous, yes?

I'm not the least bit upset, I'm just pointing out the homophobia this forum has become infested with. From a thread where I am told to go to hell just because I'm gay and that I for some reason don't deserve to find someone to love, to a thread where people like me are referred to as fruits and allusions are made to my ass in a crude attempt to insult, to posts where gay people are called degenerate and deserve AIDS. It doesn't happen in a vacuum, but it does seem to happen in a place where people are all too willing to turn a blind eye to it and call those who don't appreciate it "touchy". Because it's not the epithets and the attitude of the hateful words that are at fault, but those subject to them who have the gall to point it out, no?

You just say homophobic things and think they're funny. Right.



I can laugh at myself. I cannot laugh at your homophobic remarks, since they don't say anything about me, but they do say a lot about you and I don't laugh at such sadness.

ok, calm down a bit. First, it's LG. Second, learn to laugh at yourself a bit. So come down off your high mountain, and live a little.

Published: 01 Apr 2008

Just saying.

I'm not the least bit upset, I'm just pointing out the homophobia this forums has become infested with. From a thread where I am told to go to hell just because I'm gay and that I for some reason don't deserve to find someone to love, to a thread where people like me are referred to as fruits, to posts where gay people are called degenerate and deserve AIDS. It doesn't happen in a vacuum, but it does seem to happen in a place where people are all too willing to turn a blind eye to it and call those who don't appreciate it "touchy". Because it's not the epithets and the attitude of the hateful words that are at fault, but those subject to them who have the gall to point it out, no?
Where did this happen? This is one of the most liberal forums I know of, I sincerly doubt anyone would go off on you like that for being gay. On the other hand, your personality I can see getting more then just a few nasty comments.
And you are upset. Very upset.

I also make Irish jokes, jokes about American, and jokes about white people and think theyre funny.

You think that excuses your homophobic remarks or changes their nature?

Again, just yelling HOMOPHOBE at something doesnt make it true.

What does make it true is your attempt to insult me by making an allusion to my ass, because I am gay and thus it's "funny" to you.

I'm not the least bit upset, I'm just pointing out the homophobia this forums has become infested with. From a thread where I am told to go to hell just because I'm gay and that I for some reason don't deserve to find someone to love, to a thread where people like me are referred to as fruits and allusions are made to my ass in a crude attempt to insult, to posts where gay people are called degenerate and deserve AIDS. It doesn't happen in a vacuum, but it does seem to happen in a place where people are all too willing to turn a blind eye to it and call those who don't appreciate it "touchy". Because it's not the epithets and the attitude of the hateful words that are at fault, but those subject to them who have the gall to point it out, no?



Except no one here is calling for gay people to be euthanasized. In fact, Im pretty sure that most of us, LG and I among them, would laugh at the buggers who created said topics.

You have yet to address how your racist and eurocentric comments are any better then LG's joke about a "gaydar".

Homophobia. Très funny.

Yes, "jokes" like calling gay men "fruits". "Funny" on some primary school yard or a KKK meeting, somewhere.

... making it less homophobic, how? "Höhö, fruit! Like those fags!"



See? First juvenile, then infantile. And it's supposed to be a "joke" so the homophobia that lies at the base of it is somehow made acceptable so one doesn't have to think about the ugliness of it and that gay kids here might actually read it. Because they certainly don't get enough of it at school.

You just say homophobic things and think they're funny. Right.



I can laugh at myself. I cannot laugh at your homophobic remarks, since they don't say anything about me, but they do say a lot about you and I don't laugh at such sadness.

Ok, no one make fun of Fass. We're hurting his feelings.

Now, you can sure as Hell make fun of me. Hell I am ugly as sin and I talk like mush mouth (sometimes)

*gets a mirror and laughs at self*

Rolling squid;13595523']ok, calm down a bit. First, it's LG.

So? That makes it less insulting how?

Second, learn to laugh at yourself a bit.

Calling gay people "fruits" is not funny, thus there is nothing here to "laugh at myself" about.

You think that excuses your homophobic remarks or changes their nature?

Since when do I need to excuse myself or my actions in your eyes?

Im just trying to get you to lighten up. A lost cause really.

Anyway, Im still waiting for a response:

Thats the delicious irony. Fass is a eurocentric nationalist boarding on bigotry. I do recall his totally hilarious joke in the thread about Youtube going down in Pakistan. He said "They have computers in Pakistan?" Or his constant trolling about religion being a "fairy tale" even when the thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.


Oh, but he was probabl just joking. Which is ok. You can make fun of brown non-Europians and the religious, but not gay people. Or Sweden.

Care to tell me how your comments make you so much nobler than LG or I, or are you ready to admit your a hypocrit?

Rolling squid;13595523]First, it’s LG.
What, LG can do no wrong now?

Second, learn to laugh at yourself a bit. So come down off your high mountain, and live a little.
Not that I think that ‘fruit’ is the worst insult in the world, not since the seventies anyway, but I think Fass is in a better position to judge whether or not the term is offensive than you or I.

EDIT: Jeebus! Those [NS] tags are fucking annoying.

So? That makes it less insulting how?



Calling gay people "fruits" is not funny, thus there is nothing here to "laugh at myself" about.

Allright, I understand where your coming from.


Saying you are shocked that a country like pakistan has computers while it is filled with brown people and religious and therefore should obviously still in the dark ages is ok (see, I can insinuate too!).

Gay people are off limits.


Roger.

Except no one here is calling for gay people to be euthanasized.

I guess you're somehow posting in another forum from me, but nevertheless I guess "no one here is calling for Jews to be stuffed in to ovens" so referring to them as "kikes" is fine and dandy?

You have yet to address how your racist and eurocentric comments are any better then LG's joke about a "gaydar".

They're "better" because they only exist in your head where you invent them, so thus of no concern to me.

Ok, no one make fun of Fass. We're hurting his feelings.

Now, you can sure as Hell make fun of me. Hell I am ugly as sin and I talk like mush mouth (sometimes)

*gets a mirror and laughs at self*
You obviously haven't seen the other side of sin. His left side is the good one. *Laughs at Wilgrove*
So? That makes it less insulting how?

Because LG is JOKING! He is not a homophobe, he was JOKING! JOKING! Don't you understand?
They're "better" because they only exist in your head where you invent them, so thus of no concern to me.
Fass we've all seen you make rude racist comments before. I think you have a self-esteem problem.

I guess you're somehow posting in another forum from me, but nevertheless I guess "no one here is calling for Jews to be stuffed in to ovens" so referring to them as "kikes" is fine and dandy?


:rolleyes:


Godwin.



They're "better" because they only exist in your head where you invent them, so thus of no concern to me.

So, if I find that post, and link it, will you admit your a fucking hypocrit?

Because LG is JOKING! He is not a homophobe, he was JOKING! JOKING! Don't you understand?

He made a homophobic "joke" where he called gay people "fruits". I guess the guy from Seinfeld who called black people "niggers" was also only "joking" and thus that made it OK?

Fass we've all seen you make rude racist comments before.

And now I've seen you lie.

You obviously haven't seen the other side of sin. His left side is the good one. *Laughs at Wilgrove*

Because LG is JOKING! He is not a homophobe, he was JOKING! JOKING! Don't you understand?

Fass we've all seen you make rude racist comments before. I think you have a self-esteem problem.

This is what Ive jsut realized. Fass has somehow managed to high jack this thread into being about him.


Screams insecurity to me. Hmm. Maybe thats why our little Fass is so sensetive.

Godwin.

Grow up.

So, if I find that post, and link it, will you admit your a fucking hypocrit?

My a what? Were you trying to spell "you're" and "hypocrite" instead and trying to construct an "ad hominem tu quoque" fallacy?

You obviously haven't seen the other side of sin. His left side is the good one. *Laughs at Wilgrove*

You should see what I looked like before the surgery! *laughs at self into the mirror again*

Grow up.

Pot, kettle, black.



My a what? Were you trying to spell "you're" and "hypocrite" instead and trying to construct an "ad hominem tu quoque" fallacy?[/QUOTE]

Wait wait wait...the guy whose been using "YOU ARE ALL HOMOPHOBES!" as the crux of his arguement is now accusing someone else of an ad hominem?

And pointing out my misspellings instead of addressing the point. Cute.


Grow up kid. Youre clearly not secure enough to be using the internet. Unless mommy and daddy are supervising you.

Where did this happen? This is one of the most liberal forums I know of, I sincerly doubt anyone would go off on you like that for being gay. On the other hand, your personality I can see getting more then just a few nasty comments.
And you are upset. Very upset.
Don't remember off-hand what thread it was, but it was Kirch who said it.
I'm not the least bit upset, I'm just pointing out the homophobia this forum has become infested with. From a thread where I am told to go to hell just because I'm gay and that I for some reason don't deserve to find someone to love, to a thread where people like me are referred to as fruits and allusions are made to my ass in a crude attempt to insult, to posts where gay people are called degenerate and deserve AIDS. It doesn't happen in a vacuum, but it does seem to happen in a place where people are all too willing to turn a blind eye to it and call those who don't appreciate it "touchy". Because it's not the epithets and the attitude of the hateful words that are at fault, but those subject to them who have the gall to point it out, no?

I make gay jokes at times, though I am not a homophobe.

The main reason I said something is I just don't understand having a negative reaction towards any of LG's posts. Are some of his jokes in bad taste? Yes. It is however LG, who rarely posts anything serious.

Also, when did I say it was your fault for pointing it out? Please don't carry any hostility you feel towards Kirch over to the rest of us.

Pot, kettle, black.



My a what? Were you trying to spell "you're" and "hypocrite" instead and trying to construct an "ad hominem tu quoque" fallacy?

Wait wait wait...the guy whose been using "YOU ARE ALL HOMOPHOBES!" as the crux of his arguement is now accusing someone else of an ad hominem?

And pointing out my misspellings instead of addressing the point. Cute.


Grow up kid. Youre clearly not secure enough to be using the internet. Unless mommy and daddy are supervising you.

Chill KoL, you've dealt with Fass before, this is just how he is.

They're "better" because they only exist in your head where you invent them, so thus of no concern to me.


They have computers in Pakistan now? Whattayaknow.


Post #12


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=550428&highlight=Youtube+Pakistan


You ready to admit your a nationalistic, eurocentric bigot now?

See, insinuations are fun!

Chill KoL, you've dealt with Fass before, this is just how he is.

yea, but it does get old after awhile.

Youre clearly not secure enough to be using the internet. Unless mommy and daddy are supervising you.

So, this is what you have to resort to, as always? Attempts at insults and fallacies, without actually addressing my point that LG's and your jokes were homophobic? Because really so far all you've tried to do isn't deny it and come with arguments that would prove they're not (unsurprising, because it really is undeniable), just insults and name-calling. Not "secure enough" to be on the internet? Again, it seems you're not adult enough, so if this is the "best" you can do, I'll just brush it aside as the insubstantiality that it is and ignore you.

Oh, knock it off, the lot of you. Go back and read how this started again.

Was LG's comment homophobic? Not really.

Was there an overreaction to Fass saying it was? Definitely.

Unite against the scrounging woman in the OP with that disgusting belly hanging out.

Grow up kid. Youre clearly not secure enough to be using the internet. Unless mommy and daddy are supervising you.
Och, knock it off.

Churning out the ‘mommy and daddy’ schtik isn’t exactly proving your maturity.

And pointing out my misspellings instead of addressing the point. Cute.

Grow up kid. Youre clearly not secure enough to be using the internet. Unless mommy and daddy are supervising you.

So, this is what you have to resort to, as always? Attempts at insults and fallacies, without actually addressing my point that LG's and your jokes were homophobic? Because really so far all you've tried to do isn't deny it and come with arguments that would prove they're not (unsurprising, because it really is undeniable), just insults and name-calling. Not "secure enough" to be on the internet? Again, it seems you're not adult enough, so if this is the "best" you can do, I'll just brush it aside as the insubstantiality that it is and ignore you.

If y'all need some time apart, I have the banhammer handy.

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