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So I woke up this morning, went out to the kitchen to get some coffee and dad said I had to sign an application to get my ID (since I don't have a driver's license nor do I plan on getting one) and then he asked if I wanted to be an organ donor..

I said "no". He seemed disappointed.

I don't know why I don't want to be an organ donor. I just don't want to.

Am I an asshole [for this]?

Are you an organ donor?

Yeah, seems like kind of a dick thing to do. You're not going to be using them. And yes, I am an organ donor.

I don't do it either. I don't want my body carved up before I am buried. Against my religion anyway... ;)


As for the are you going to hell bit. Look on the bright side. You will never be cold.

For not donating your organs, no.

Other reasons: Well, lets just say: "I'll leave a light on for ya.";)

heh, pretty much the exact same thing happened to me a few years ago. I don't know why I said no, I just didn't feel like I should. And no, you're not going to hell. Infact I'm sure there's some obscure sect that thinks organ donation is bad for some crazy reason so you never know, you might be rewarded for your selfishness :p

yes, and yes.

While i can understand the discomfort associated with having someone else use your organs, you really have no use for them after your death- it's all up to your soul then- so, yeah, you're being a bit of an ass.

And in the Catholic Church, it isn't enough to send you to hell. Helping others by donating can get you into heaven, though.

Even if you don't believe in God, donation is a good idea.

yes, and yes.

Source?

inasmuch as we would like to promote organ donation, no i don't think it is enough for you to go to hell or to be an asshole. it's disappointing, but i don't think that judging people based on whether they want to donate their organs is a great idea...

I don't do it either. I don't want my body carved up before I am buried. Against my religion anyway... ;)

If you don't mind me asking, what religion is that?

To elaborate a bit on my earlier post, it doesn't seem right to not donate your organs (excepting religious grounds, but even then, it's questionable).

As has already been stated, you're not going to be using them, and you have the potential to save multiple lives. All you have to do is die. It seems like the easiest way you could ever possibly save lives, and there's not really any good excuse to not do it. So really the question is, "Which is more important: that person who will certainly die without a new liver, or my mild discomfort in ticking a little box on this form?"

Seems silly not to tick the box.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2004244956_transplant27.html

Well, crap like this tends to make people say, "Hell no, I don't want to be a donor... what if I'm not done with them yet?!"

So I woke up this morning, went out to the kitchen to get some coffee and dad said I had to sign an application to get my ID (since I don't have a driver's license nor do I plan on getting one) and then he asked if I wanted to be an organ donor..

I said "no". He seemed disappointed.

I don't know why I don't want to be an organ donor. I just don't want to.

Am I an asshole [for this]?

Are you an organ donor?

Don't worry. After you're dead, we'll take your organs anyway. Problem solved. :)

So I woke up this morning, went out to the kitchen to get some coffee and dad said I had to sign an application to get my ID (since I don't have a driver's license nor do I plan on getting one) and then he asked if I wanted to be an organ donor..

I said "no". He seemed disappointed.

I don't know why I don't want to be an organ donor. I just don't want to.

Am I an asshole [for this]?

Are you an organ donor?

Asshole? Nah. It´s just free will. You chose not to be an organ donor.

Why yes, I´m an organ donor. If I die I don´t need organs, right? Give them to someone who truly needs them to live.

Its your body. If you dont feel comfortable with it for whatever reason then you dont have to be one, and everyone who wants to ridicule you can back the fuck off.


When I got my liscence way back when I said no too. The thought just made me feel uncomfortable for whatever reason (maybe because I was 16 and didnt want to think about dying?). Now that Im older, I intend to get around to getting it changed.

Am I an asshole [for this]?

Are you an organ donor?

Yes you are and yes I am. What purpose do your organs serve after your death? They end up discarded or burnt, when they would be far more valuable to someone still holding onto life. By not being an organ donor, you are taking something away from someone else while getting nothing in return for it. That's being an asshole.

if you really dont want to be an organ donor you need to discuss it with your mom and dad. not signing isnt denying permission for them to give your organs should the opportunity arise. you have to convince them to say no when they are asked for permission after you are dead.

Yes you are and yes I am. What purpose do your organs serve after your death? They end up discarded or burnt, when they would be far more valuable to someone still holding onto life. By not being an organ donor, you are taking something away from someone else while getting nothing in return for it. That's being an asshole.

If hes not comfortable with his body being carved up, thats his business.

What purpose do your organs serve after your death? They end up discarded or burnt, when they would be far more valuable to someone still holding onto life.
I agree.

By not being an organ donor, you are taking something away from someone else while getting nothing in return for it.
But I don't get this part. The supposed-donor's organs (the "something") aren't the recipient's (the "someone else") organs in the first place, I don't see how refusing to donate an organ would take away something from the recipient. The recipient does not own or does not have the right to somebody else's organs in the first place...

i checked in the book of the lamb and you're good ... as to organ donation, its up to you... after the resurrection. we'll fix you up... its not like everyone comes shambling out of the grave in the condition nature reduced them to

But I don't get this part. The supposed-donor's organs (the "something") aren't the recipient's (the "someone else") organs in the first place, I don't see how refusing to donate an organ would take away something from the recipient. The recipient does not own or does not have the right to somebody else's organs in the first place...

No, but had Ruffy been an organ donor before death, the dying heart transplant patient would have a heart. You could say that by marking no, you are taking away their heart.

Say an American company wants to start making a new toy. They already make 5 different toys built in America. This company wants to make a 6th toy, but wants to build it in India. It's still "taking jobs away" from Americans, even if these are just potential jobs.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2004244956_transplant27.html

Well, crap like this tends to make people say, "Hell no, I don't want to be a donor... what if I'm not done with them yet?!"

Can we have your liver? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tmLvzubP3I)

No, but had Ruffy been an organ donor before death, the dying heart transplant patient would have a heart. You could say that by marking no, you are taking away their heart.

Say an American company wants to start making a new toy. They already make 5 different toys built in America. This company wants to make a 6th toy, but wants to build it in India. It's still "taking jobs away" from Americans, even if these are just potential jobs.

But that company "owns" those jobs.


Theyre my bloody organs (no pun intended), if I choose not to give them to you, Im not taking anything from you because they werent yours the the first place.

People need to stop with the "taking a life away!" emotional rhetoric and drivel. It makes me seriously reconsider if I want to become a donor.


Its my body. Mine. No one elses. If I dont want certain things to happen to my body, I have that right.

Its my body. Mine. No one elses. If I dont want certain things to happen to my body, I have that right.

Is it really yours after you die? Whatever "you" are has either vanished or passed on, depending on your belief system, and your carcass is left for the state and relatives to clean up after. Of course if you don't want certain things done to your body while you are alive you don't have to, but what rights does a dead man have?

You're not an asshole for not wanting to donate. It's a personal thing and people have different feelings about it. I do think that you should think deeper and try to quantify what makes you uncomfortable about it. I think it's better to understand yourself than not.

Personally, I'm on a register for donation and I carry a card. I donated blood and plasma until my diabetes caught up with me and I had to stop. not only are my organs up for grabs but I've also left my body to medical science and research. I see it as giving something to society.

As for going to hell. Well I'm an atheist so I think you can guess my answer to that one.

But that company "owns" those jobs.

Theyre my bloody organs (no pun intended), if I choose not to give them to you, Im not taking anything from you because they werent yours the the first place.

I'm talking about potential here. The company owns those jobs, much like how you own your organs. But by outsourcing to a foreign company, the company takes away potential domestic jobs. Just like how by having your organs incinerated upon death, you're taking away a potential donor organ that someone else can benefit from. No, they aren't mine, but you're dead, what does it matter to you anymore?

No, but had Ruffy been an organ donor before death, the dying heart transplant patient would have a heart. You could say that by marking no, you are taking away their heart.

Say an American company wants to start making a new toy. They already make 5 different toys built in America. This company wants to make a 6th toy, but wants to build it in India. It's still "taking jobs away" from Americans, even if these are just potential jobs.
I don't want to debate this further, but no, not necessarily. Being an organ donor cannot guarantee that you will be saving a life (what if you have hepatitis B?); neither does having people donate their organs guarantee that a dying patient will have (incompatibility?) or be saved by an organ transplant (organ rejection, anyone?). I agree though, that the thought of saving a life is a very nice incentive to promote organ transplant, but I don't think it is right in saying that refusing to donate your organs would be taking away someone's life or something. Probably an opportunity at life or potential, but still the donor's organs do not belong to another person. I strongly believe that we need to promote organ donation, but I think that pressuring people to do so is not right. So is judging people by their decision to donate their organs or not... I don't know - that argument sounds so much like one of those used in one of the most divisive debates ever (abortion)

But that company "owns" those jobs.


Theyre my bloody organs (no pun intended), if I choose not to give them to you, Im not taking anything from you because they werent yours the the first place.

People need to stop with the "taking a life away!" emotional rhetoric and drivel. It makes me seriously reconsider if I want to become a donor.


Its my body. Mine. No one elses. If I dont want certain things to happen to my body, I have that right.

You're absolutely right. They are your organs, and you are under no obligation to give them to someone else, nor do they actually belong in any sense to anyone else.

But by keeping them after you die, you are choosing, not to do something inherently bad, but to refrain from doing something inherently good-- specifically save a life or two. While it may be well within your rights to refrain from doing something good, why would you when it costs you absolutely nothing? It doesn't make sense to me.

It's like the whole railroad tracks case. Imagine there's a train bearing down on a bus full of (presumably innocent) people that are stuck on the tracks. You're standing by the lever to make the train switch tracks and avoid the bus full of people, but you don't pull the lever. While there is nothing inherently bad about not pulling a lever, you're choosing to refrain from doing something inherently good. This is an asshole thing to do. You're within your rights to not pull a lever; no one can make you pull that lever. But it's still not really okay to refrain from saving all those people just because you can.

I don't want to donate my organs either; not because I feel uncomfortable with having my body cut up, but because I think there may be things wrong with them. I don't donate blood either because I imagine it having diseases or viruses in it. Or something.

Actually, if I could donate only my liver I'd probably do that. I don't drink, do drugs or smoke, so it should be in good shape.

No, but had Ruffy been an organ donor before death, the dying heart transplant patient would have a heart. You could say that by marking no, you are taking away their heart.
There's a lot of people that need organs right now. Organs that you have. By not promptly dying and letting these people have them, you are just as much a thief as IL Ruffino.

Asshole? Nah. It´s just free will. You chose not to be an organ donor.

:confused:

Using free-will and being an arsehole are mutually exclusive?

There's a lot of people that need money right now. Money that you have. By not promptly dying and letting these people have it, you are just as much a thief as IL Ruffino.




....nah, that doesn't make sense either.

There's a lot of people that need organs right now. Organs that you have. By not promptly dying and letting these people have them, you are just as much a thief as IL Ruffino.

Except that I'm not dead. I'm still using them. I get first dibs. But what right to I have to deny someone else "second dibs" after I'm already long gone?

Except that I'm not dead. I'm still using them. I get first dibs. But what right to I have to deny someone else "second dibs" after I'm already long gone?


Theyre still yours?

Theyre still yours?

How? I don't exist. My body is in the possession of my family or the state.

How? I don't exist. My body is in the possession of my family or the state.

And your family should respect your wishes. If you dont want YOUR body carved up, they should respect that.

I wanted to vote something like "no, but, possibly could be" cause I live in the US and i dont think you just sign up to be an organ donor here you just kinda donate it if someone needs an organ, lol...or at least i wouldnt know where you sign up...:confused:

I wanted to vote something like "no, but, possibly could be" cause I live in the US and i dont think you just sign up to be an organ donor here you just kinda donate it if someone needs an organ, lol...or at least i wouldnt know where you sign up...:confused:

...no...actually in the US you do "just sign up to be an organ donor"

then when you die, if one of your organs is needed, a donation is made

I am an organ donor, and I don't particularly understand the discomfort of those that aren't, but before donors get on their moral high horse we need to understand that signing up as an organ donor by no means guarantees your organs will be usable:

Only patients who have suffered brain death in hospital can become organ donors because vital organs must be maintained artificially by a ventilator so they can be transplanted. However, only those whose hearts have stopped and cannot, therefore, be artificially supported by a ventilator (the heart and lungs have stopped working), can become tissue donors.

Source (http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/nr-cp/2001/2001_36bk1_e.html)

How many people die in hospital?

If you don't mind me asking, what religion is that?

Islam

Can we have your liver? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tmLvzubP3I)

I was going to post that exact link!


But yeah. Uh, I voted for the wrong option in the poll. >.> <.<

What I meant to vote for is "Not yet, but I will be."

Except that I'm not dead. I'm still using them. I get first dibs. But what right to I have to deny someone else "second dibs" after I'm already long gone?

Then you choose to give your organs. I object to the fact you think that everyone else should do what you want them to do. Curious do you think you have a right to the rest of my property and money when I die? I mean in your logic it would be helping other people. I mean I am dead right? What do I need with it, right comrade?

I have a fear that if I sign up to be an organ donor then the doctors won't treat me if I get in an accident.

Yes you are and yes I am. What purpose do your organs serve after your death? They end up discarded or burnt, when they would be far more valuable to someone still holding onto life. By not being an organ donor, you are taking something away from someone else while getting nothing in return for it. That's being an asshole.

What if i want to be buried in my best and most expensive suit wearing my favorite old gold rolex that my granddfather gave me, am i an asshole because i didnt sell it instead and be buried naked and give the cash proceeds to poor kids in Africa because i dont really need it and they do?

You can die just as easily by not having money as you can not having functioning organs. Yet strangers dont walk up to you and ask you to check off a spot on your licence that will permit them to give your money to dying people.

What if i want to be buried in my best and most expensive suit wearing my favorite old gold rolex that my granddfather gave me, am i an asshole because i didnt sell it instead and be buried naked and give the cash proceeds to poor kids in Africa because i dont really need it and they do?

You can die just as easily by not having money as you can not having functioning organs. Yet strangers dont walk up to you and ask you to check off a spot on your licence that will permit them to give your money to dying people.

No, you give your money to your family via a will. Presumably, if your family members need an organ, you'll give that to them as well after you die.

If you choose to get buried with all of your valuable belongings as opposed to giving them to your family or, barring any close relations, some decent cause, then yeah, it probably does make you an asshole. The fact that they belong to you doesn't mean that completely, willfully, arbitrarily neglecting to do something good with them, when it costs you absolutely nothing, is a good thing-- whether it's organs or money.

To those saying "you're dead, you don't need them anymore" I say: how do you know? Have you ever been dead? ;)

I own my body. When I die, my relatives inherit everything I own. They get to decide if they want to donate it to others.

I guess I should instead answer the question whether I would donate the organs I inherit from one of my relatives. I probably wouldn't, because I get no say in who receives the donation. Some people deserve it more than others, eg people with a 100% healthy lifestyle are more deserving of any type of medical help IMHO. Also, it doesn't feel right, somehow.

So someones life isn't saved, partially for a boycott-like reason (I would like the law to be changed), and partially because of my irrational feelings. Well, tough. Irrational doesn't mean invalid. There are plenty of women I'm not going to marry because I don't love them, that's irrational too.

I don't think I'm an asshole. If I would have written "I won't donate because there are too many people on this planet", then I would have been. That's a valid reason too, though.

edit to add: I don't want to receive organ donations. Fair's fair.

I am. Its not like I'm going to be using them. To me it's kind of silly not to be.

Don't worry. After you're dead, we'll take your organs anyway. Problem solved. :)

Yes, when youre dead, LG will feed on whatever tastes good in you

Cannibalism tends to cause insanity, maybe this explains LG?\

BTW, youre not going to hell, last i checked, alot of religions say no to swapping body items between people, even blood is a no in some

You have the right to decide what happens to your body after you die, just as you have the right to throw away food when others are starving.
I have the right to think you're an asshole.

:confused:

Using free-will and being an arsehole are mutually exclusive?

Well, he has the right not to donate his organs if he doesn´t want to. They´re his, right?

While i can understand the discomfort associated with having someone else use your organs, you really have no use for them after your death- it's all up to your soul then- so, yeah, you're being a bit of an ass.


There are a few religions IIRC that believe anything removed from your body you will not have in the afterlife. They also believe that anything buried with the body will be carried with it.

Well, he has the right not to donate his organs if he doesn´t want to. They´re his, right?

They're not really his after he dies.

Of course your family should respect your decision after you're dead, otherwise they're doubleplusassholes.

Anyway, while I voted that I will be a donor soon, I'm still unsure because I would like my family to be able to be able to mourn properly. I guess I will just leave it up to them (if that's legally feasable here...).

How? I don't exist. My body is in the possession of my family or the state.

Even if you have no claim to them after your death, why does anybody else suddenly have one?

If hes not comfortable with his body being carved up, thats his business.

Its his business until he makes a thread about it on a forum, then it is much less private.

My veiw is: Saying no is pointless, since you gain nothing out of it. Just because it makes you feel uneasy is no reason not to do it, just imagine what the person needing an organ is feeling.:)

I'm an organ donor, and i am on the National Bone Marrow Registry here in Canada, which also now is a registry for stem-cells.

As an Agnostic, i don't even know if i believe in hell, but i'm inclined to believe that even if there is, you wouldn't go there for refusing to be an organ donor. I won't even go so far as to call you an asshole, but i do agree with the poster who said that you should perhaps think about why it makes you uncomfortable. I don't think people should make decisions without thinking about them and knowing why they make them.

I was always a donor but never had it marked on my ID, I'm paranoid about that, I told my family after they were sure I was for sure really really for sure dying, then they could give them away, it was always up to them anyway.

I can't donate now though, the auto-immune disorder I have would pass to the person getting my stuff and they would die. I didn't mark my box this time when I got my new license and the lady was like "you are sure? it's pretty selfish not to be a donor" and I got to retort "mind your own fucking business. my body my choice!" and walked out.

See, that's one of the reasons i don't belittle people or try and make them feel guilty for not being a donor. Aside from the fact that i do believe people have the right to choose whether or not to donate their organs, there's also the fact that most of the time we don't know why a person made the choice. There are people, like you Smunkee, who have medical conditions that prevent them from being donors, even if they want to. If we don't know someone from a hole in the ground, we shouldn't presume to make judgements.

I assume the OP has no such medical conditions, he probably would have mentioned it if he did, but i still don't think he's an asshole.

Now, if he was walking down the street or something and saw someone seriously injured, and he could be certain that without help, that person would die, and he didn't do anything, even if it was just to call an ambulance, then he would be a selfish asshole. I don't think it makes him selfish though to not want to be a donor just because the possibility exists that one day he may be a match for someone needing an organ.

For me, the chance i may one day save a life with my organs is enough, it's why i'm a donor, and i do think that more people probably should be. However, i don't think essentially telling people they are greedy and selfish if they don't donate is the way to encourage them to make the choice.

I'd say you need to examine your feelings and thoughts on why you are so attached to your organs that you can't let them go even after they won't work for you, but could for someone else.
If you know you are not your organs, know you are not your body and that you will still exist after your body has died, would it make it any easier to say "yes" to organ donation? :)

I'd say you need to examine your feelings and thoughts on why you are so attached to your organs that you can't let them go even after they won't work for you, but could for someone else.
If you know you are not your organs, know you are not your body and that you will still exist after your body has died, would it make it any easier to say "yes" to organ donation? :)

I just want to be set on fire when I die, I don't even want an autopsy.

Also: I totally thought your name was Cocoa Ruffy, but even so, you make me crave chocolate peeps.

To the people who voted "Not yet, but I will be." that are over the age of 18, why aren't you already a donor? Did you recently change your mind?

I say no, you are not an asshole for it. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned/superstitious, but desecrating the dead, for no matter what reason, is wrong. However, if they are alive, and know they are going to die, and decide to have a heart transplant or somesuch, so that another person can live, that is most definettly okay.

And if you go to hell, I've just one thing to say: See ya there. ;)

They're your nads, Ruff! If you don't want someone else swingin' 'em when yer gone, that's your bidness.

To those who think Ruffy should be a donor (and I think should should be struck from the language), please compare this opinion with your opinion re: abortion. Both involve choice. I like to think in terms of maximizing personal freedom, personally ;)

Yes, I'm an organ donor. Although, at my age, I doubt that they'll be usable when they become available - except maybe the fat.

Whether you should be a donor or not is your choice.

Well, I am not an organ donor, and that is because after consultation with my family, I realised that in the event of my death, the organs might not even get released (in New Zealand, the next of kin gets the final say, even if the person desired to be a donor).

Whether or not you wish to be an organ donor is your choice; I would have been, but for some stupid laws in New Zealand (and I wouldn't want to get someone's hopes up to see them dashed)

They can take whatever they want out of my body once I'm dead.

Organ donation shouldn't be a choice.

They can take whatever they want out of my body once I'm dead.

Organ donation shouldn't be a choice.

it is a descision with strong religious overtones, some christians take the ressurection of the body very literally and other religions have very strong opinions about what is the proper way to deal with the dead. in fact religion and death are extremely closely linked, to deny people the right to do with their body what their religion requires or even just what they personally prefer is a fairly fundimental breach of the freedom of religion.

I just renewed and checked it off so that I get carved if I die but I'll probably change it the next time I renew it.

Well, I happen to believe that belief in the supernatural is ridiculous and don't think people should be allowed to die because some whackos think an invisible bearded man in the clouds isn't going to let them into his house because they gave up parts of their body.

If I broke any rules, I apologise.

Well, I happen to believe that belief in the supernatural is ridiculous and don't think people should be allowed to die because some whackos think an invisible bearded man in the clouds isn't going to let them into his house because they gave up parts of their body.

If I broke any rules, I apologise.
so you think the state owns your body when you die and can do with it as it pleases... charlton heston died today and now you want to give the government a unlimited supply of soylent green raw materials.

Well, I happen to believe that belief in the supernatural is ridiculous and don't think people should be allowed to die because some whackos think an invisible bearded man in the clouds isn't going to let them into his house because they gave up parts of their body.

If I broke any rules, I apologise.
I just happen to be an atheist as well but I still will defend others' right to choose what to believe and what to do with their bodies what they want.

Saying that organ donation shouldn't be a choice is like saying that gun ownership shouldn't be a choice. Or religion, or drugs, or any of the other shit that people do to their bodies like tatoos and piercings.

Um, yeah kinda. You're going to be dead, and there's really no reason why you need your organs in the afterlife, or after you die. Unless you have religious reasons, and it doesn't look like you do, there really isn't a reason not to.

Yes you are and yes I am. What purpose do your organs serve after your death? They end up discarded or burnt, when they would be far more valuable to someone still holding onto life. By not being an organ donor, you are taking something away from someone else while getting nothing in return for it. That's being an asshole.

I'm not one either. I won't donate now because of this post. Maybe one day you can be open minded and figure out that its anybodies choice not to donate.

Besides everybody knows its fun being an ass. ;)

No I don't think you're going to Hell, and you can do what you want with your body, I don't care.

I am an Organ donor, and all of my organs are in healthy condition except for anything in the Urinary Tract System.

I don't know, you like Michigan that much? Or are you going to Norway?? :eek:

And yes, I am. An organ donor, that is...

How absurd. Just because one thinks people should donate their organs doesn't mean one thinks organ donation should be mandatory.

I have slightly revised my opinion on organ donation since the idea of being cryogenically frozen appeals to me, and I might need them later (though if this musing ever translated to action, I would probably just freeze my brain and give away the rest). Still, though, not donating when you have no intentions for your organs other than 'being cut up is eww and ick' is silly.

Not everyone has to say "Yeah go ahead and chop me up when I'm dead."

Me.. I am a donor; don't see why I'd need those pieces of meat when I die.

Its your body. If you dont feel comfortable with it for whatever reason then you dont have to be one, and everyone who wants to ridicule you can back the fuck off.
Yeah, this. If you can justify it to yourself, then fine, even if that is just "I don't really want to".

Personally, I am an organ donor...well, will be. :p

I said "no". He seemed disappointed.
I don't know why I don't want to be an organ donor. I just don't want to.
Am I an asshole [for this]?
Are you an organ donor?

No. No.
At least, it's my choice, too. I oppose to transplant from dead donors. Not because of religion (eh...), simply because this technology, while saving the lives of some people, has contributed to creating one of the filthiest, illegal markets of the world - see the figures for the meninhos da rua (street kids) in Brazil killed to get organs.

Humans (and human parts) shouldn't be items of trade. Period.

I'm very happy, by the way, that the tech for artificial organ replacement is growing every day.

Personally, I am an organ donor...well, will be. :p

Have you ever seen Monty Python's "Meaning of Life" ? ;)

No. No.
At least, it's my choice, too. I oppose to transplant from dead donors. Not because of religion (eh...), simply because this technology, while saving the lives of some people, has contributed to creating one of the filthiest, illegal markets of the world - see the figures for the meninhos da rua (street kids) in Brazil killed to get organs.

Humans (and human parts) shouldn't be items of trade. Period.

I'm very happy, by the way, that the tech for artificial organ replacement is growing every day.

Surely not being a donor just decreases the number of voluntary organs availiable and this putting more pressure on people to use "involuntary" organs?

I don't do it either. I don't want my body carved up before I am buried. Against my religion anyway... ;)


As for the are you going to hell bit. Look on the bright side. You will never be cold.

Depends what kind of hell you go to, it could be a freezing desert for all we know. That's even assuming you have an afterlife.
As to the OP, sure you can decide what you like to do with your corpse, but i suppose it's no real loss if you do give away your organs once dead.
There always seems to be a morbid atmosphere in NSG, i've noticed alot of death threads recently.
For something we know so little of it's well publicised.

Repent ye now of your heathen ways, Ruffy, or suffer the eternal consequences.

Am I an asshole [for this]?

Are you an organ donor?

Asshole? No. But you should think it over. You're not going to use your organs when you're dead, and they're going to rot and turn into dust. Or, you can give someone a second chance at life by donating your heart after you die (assuming that you don't die from heart problems).

If you are a Christian (some people don't donate because they are "Christian"), then you should know that the Bible states that God will replace your dead body with a new one, so all is well. This isn't directed to you, but to the general population.

I'm not an organ donor yet, but I plan to be after death.

Um, yeah kinda. You're going to be dead, and there's really no reason why you need your organs in the afterlife, or after you die. Unless you have religious reasons, and it doesn't look like you do, there really isn't a reason not to.

No one needs a reason to not donate. It is a choice. It need not be reasonable or rational.
(and no, I'm not saying not donating is irrational, I'm saying why someone chooses what they choose is nobody else's d@mn business)

I just happen to be an atheist as well but I still will defend others' right to choose what to believe and what to do with their bodies what they want.

Saying that organ donation shouldn't be a choice is like saying that gun ownership shouldn't be a choice. Or religion, or drugs, or any of the other shit that people do to their bodies like tatoos and piercings.

No it's not. Once you're dead there is no one around to exercise ownership over your body, and so it doesn't really belong to you anymore. Everything you mentioned at the end of your post requires that someone be alive and active to actually participate in religion and drug use and all that business.