NationStates Jolt Archive


Favorite coffee chain?

VietnamSounds
03-04-2008, 20:55
I vote pete's coffee. It's not as common as the others, but that's a good thing, because most of these chains are a little too common. They're like starbucks, but better.
Falani
03-04-2008, 21:01
Of all those, I only know Starbucks. And they suck. So, something else for me.
Smunkeeville
03-04-2008, 21:03
I like Starbucks because I like the way they treat their employees. Their coffee is comparable to the smaller chains around here, but the smaller chains don't do employee benefits and such, so I feel bad for the people who work there.
Saxnot
03-04-2008, 21:04
I try not to go to chains. Costa and Starbucks in particular i refuse to go into. :p
Neesika
03-04-2008, 21:05
I am outraged that the best purveyor of coffee....Tim Hortons, is not represented in this poll.
New Manvir
03-04-2008, 21:06
All of the Poll options are made of fail

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/3/36/Tim_hortons_logo_original.gif
Smunkeeville
03-04-2008, 21:09
I try not to go to chains. Costa and Starbucks in particular i refuse to go into. :p

why?
VietnamSounds
03-04-2008, 21:16
I am outraged that the best purveyor of coffee....Tim Hortons, is not represented in this poll.I've never heard of that. I only know of the chains around where I live.
Extreme Ironing
03-04-2008, 21:17
None. They don't have the character nor atmosphere, and the coffee is not particularly superior to an independent.
Neesika
03-04-2008, 21:18
I've never heard of that. I only know of the chains around where I live.

Bow down (http://www.imbusion.com/day/timhortons.jpg) to the Timmy's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hortons). McDonald's is small change next to this goliath, and no coffee is better. NO COFFEE.
Snafturi
03-04-2008, 22:08
Coffee People.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 22:17
Caribou Coffee.

Starbucks's coffee is made of epic fail.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 22:18
I like Starbucks because I like the way they treat their employees. Their coffee is comparable to the smaller chains around here, but the smaller chains don't do employee benefits and such, so I feel bad for the people who work there.

So you have nowhere to go for good quality coffee? I feel sorry for you. :(
Magdha
03-04-2008, 22:25
I've never heard of that. I only know of the chains around where I live.

I heard they (Tim Hortons) put nicotine in their coffee.
Smunkeeville
03-04-2008, 22:45
So you have nowhere to go for good quality coffee? I feel sorry for you. :(

coffee is coffee is coffee.

Starbucks pays their employees more and provides access to health insurance and vacation and tuition reimbursement, my other option fo local independently owned place, offers their employees $2.75 an hour and no benefits. I feel I'm being more responsible with my coffee money by supporting my local Starbucks.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 22:48
coffee is coffee is coffee.

No, it isn't. There's good coffee and bad coffee.

Starbucks pays their employees more and provides access to health insurance and vacation and tuition reimbursement, my other option fo local independently owned place, offers their employees $2.75 an hour and no benefits. I feel I'm being more responsible with my coffee money by supporting my local Starbucks.

Who cares? If the coffee is that bad, why drink it at all?

I don't choose a place because it "treats its employees well." I choose it because it makes delicious coffee.

Would you buy from a place that treated their employees very well but brewed coffee that tasted like dog shit?
The Loyal Opposition
03-04-2008, 23:01
Peet's Coffee & Tea.

My previous preference closed, so I had to choose between Starbucks and Peet's. The choice was rather simple. I went into a Starbucks and asked what fair trade coffee they had brewing. They looked at me like I was from Mars. I went into a Peet's and asked for fair trade, and they responded with hot coffee and a "thank you, have a nice day."

Peet's FTW.


Would you buy from a place that treated their employees very well but brewed coffee that tasted like dog shit?


I buy from a place that is socially responsible and that sells a quality product.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 23:05
I buy from a place that is socially responsible and that sells a quality product.

More power to you, then. But I would never buy from someone that brews dogshit just because they are "socially responsible." Socially responsibly brewed dogshit is still dogshit.
Gift-of-god
03-04-2008, 23:05
Tim Horton's. Their caramel flavoured cappucino is the best when you have a hangover.
Veblenia
03-04-2008, 23:06
I heard they (Tim Hortons) put nicotine in their coffee.

I believe it. I've heard they spike it with MSG, too.
Joiessaix
03-04-2008, 23:09
Dunkin Donuts has no pretensions whatsoever.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 23:11
I believe it. I've heard they spike it with MSG, too.

MSG?
Veblenia
03-04-2008, 23:12
More power to you, then. But I would never buy from someone that brews dogshit just because they are "socially responsible." Socially responsibly brewed dogshit is still dogshit.

It's been my experience that socially responsible coffee is also organically grown, and the purveyors are discerning enough to recognize that coffee from different places tastes different. They value better beans and pay more attention to where and how they're grown. None of this Tim Horton's mystery brew.


I'm a Bridgehead (http://www.bridgehead.ca) groupie. It's a shame they don't have stores outside of Ottawa.
Veblenia
03-04-2008, 23:14
MSG?

Monosodium glutemate. It goes into a lot of cheap Chinese takeout. It's a lot like caffeine (or nicotine)--a powerful stimulant and highly addictive
Steachdu
03-04-2008, 23:14
Ahh... more knee-jerk reactions to Starbucks. If their coffee tastes like "dog shit" then why are they the largest seller of coffee in the world?

Hating a company because they're successful is inane. They got that way for a reason.
The Loyal Opposition
03-04-2008, 23:14
But I would never buy from someone that brews dogshit just because they are "socially responsible."

I was actually stuck in this situation for a while, before the local Peet's opened. The choice was between a Starbucks and smaller company, both on my university campus. The Starbucks was overcrowded, understaffed, overpriced, and the company has a reputation for abusing its employees (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7308233.stm) (EDIT: But wait, there's more! (http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0331166220080403?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews)) (loyal customers will deny it to their final breath, but the news speaks for itself). So I did the right thing, and bought the most horrifyingly bad tasting coffee from the smaller company until the Peet's opened.

So no, don't buy bad tasting company from a good company. But then, don't buy good tasting coffee from a bad company either. If possible, one should really try to buy good tasting coffee from a good company.
VietnamSounds
03-04-2008, 23:16
Dunkin Donuts has no pretensions whatsoever.Pretension is everywhere. DDs has low carb bagels and 12 flavors of coffee. HINT: All their flavors taste the same.

Don't get me wrong, Dunkin Donuts is awesome. But it's silly how they have this lower class image. A regular coffee at Dunkin Donuts costs the same as a regular coffee at Starbucks.
Steachdu
03-04-2008, 23:16
I was actually stuck in this situation for a while, before the local Peet's opened. The choice was between a Starbucks and smaller company, both on my university campus. The Starbucks was overcrowded, understaffed, overpriced, and the company has a reputation for abusing its employees (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7308233.stm) (loyal customers will deny it to their final breath, but the news speaks for itself). So I did the right thing, and bought the most horrifyingly bad tasting coffee from the smaller company until the Peet's opened.

So no, don't buy bad tasting company from a good company. But then, don't buy good tasting coffee from a bad company either. If possible, one should really try to buy good tasting coffee from a good company.

For the record, the shift supervisors are hourly wage employees with no managerial duties. If their tips are taken away they make less than the baristas.
Nanashi Kuro
03-04-2008, 23:16
Costa Coffee all the way!

I won't go into Starbucks on principle. They are WAY overpriced.

I mainly drink coffee at home, so MEH! I has best coffee here!
Magdha
03-04-2008, 23:17
Ahh... more knee-jerk reactions to Starbucks. If their coffee tastes like "dog shit" then why are they the largest seller of coffee in the world?

Who cares? If people want to buy their coffee, that's their business.

Hating a company because they're successful is inane. They got that way for a reason.

Who said I hated them?
VietnamSounds
03-04-2008, 23:18
Ahh... more knee-jerk reactions to Starbucks. If their coffee tastes like "dog shit" then why are they the largest seller of coffee in the world?

Hating a company because they're successful is inane. They got that way for a reason.It's not just because they're successful. It's because of their image, like I mentioned before. Nobody protests the opening of a Dunkin Donuts because they're a big evil corporation. But I've seen protests because Dunkin Donuts is too "downscale," whatever that means.
CanuckHeaven
03-04-2008, 23:19
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/dbr/lowres/dbrn61l.jpg
Great coffee eh? :D
The Loyal Opposition
03-04-2008, 23:24
Ahh... more knee-jerk reactions to Starbucks. If their coffee tastes like "dog shit" then why are they the largest seller of coffee in the world?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing

That, and decades of obsession with instant coffee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_coffee) has so throughly destroyed Americans' sense of taste that they wouldn't know good taste if one somehow tied it to a brick and beat them in the face with it.

This is why I have to stand in line at the coffee shop and listen to people rattle off their long beverage orders. Iced soy milk half calf lemon grass with seven sugars...oh, and a small drop of actual coffee because I'll look odd ordering a drink in a coffee shop if it has no actual coffee in it. As far as I can tell, no one actually wants to drink coffee, because otherwise they wouldn't be mixing so much crap into it. Thus, no one actually knows what coffee tastes like, making it far easier to serve crap-tasting garbage undetected.

But those of us who have actually tasted and like coffee are not so easily fooled.
Smunkeeville
03-04-2008, 23:27
No, it isn't. There's good coffee and bad coffee.



Who cares? If the coffee is that bad, why drink it at all?

I don't choose a place because it "treats its employees well." I choose it because it makes delicious coffee.

Would you buy from a place that treated their employees very well but brewed coffee that tasted like dog shit?

I wouldn't buy coffee that tasted like dog shit at all. I am unsure of what dog shit tastes like (I'm sure you know exactly what dog shit tastes like, and that disturbs me) but I haven't tasted too much of a quality difference between Starbucks and <random local coffee shop> so, since I have money to spend I would rather spend it at the place I feel is more deserving of my money.

My husband's company treats it's employees very well, so when buying the product they sell, all things being equal, I would buy from there, because I feel they best represent my values, and in the free market, it's how you effect change, you don't buy from people who do things you don't like and you buy from people who do.

Like I said, maybe I haven't had bad coffee, I like what I get and I like who I get it from.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 23:34
I am unsure of what dog shit tastes like (I'm sure you know exactly what dog shit tastes like, and that disturbs me)

I don't, actually. :p

in the free market, it's how you effect change, you don't buy from people who do things you don't like and you buy from people who do.

Exactly.

Like I said, maybe I haven't had bad coffee,

I agree. ;)

I like what I get and I like who I get it from.

Fair enough.
Magdha
03-04-2008, 23:34
But those of us who have actually tasted and like coffee are not so easily fooled.

*applauds*
The Loyal Opposition
04-04-2008, 00:00
It's been my experience that socially responsible coffee is also organically grown, and the purveyors are discerning enough to recognize that coffee from different places tastes different. They value better beans and pay more attention to where and how they're grown.

Excerpted as exemplary of exactitude
Xomic
04-04-2008, 00:00
I am outraged that the best purveyor of coffee....Tim Hortons, is not represented in this poll.

I agree.
Esor Mairim
04-04-2008, 00:11
I believe it. I've heard they spike it with MSG, too.

There are regulations to what you can put in a coffe, and MSG? do you realise what that tastes like? Chicken salt, so I think you would be able to tell if it was in there. Where I'm from you don't buy from the big chains because there are 100 local AWESOME coffee shops.
None of that whipped cream crap.
Neesika
04-04-2008, 00:13
I believe it. I've heard they spike it with MSG, too.

Oh frag off and snopes.com it. That particular little urban legend (nicotine, MSG, whatever) has been around for ages.
Neesika
04-04-2008, 00:20
Monosodium glutemate. It goes into a lot of cheap Chinese takeout. It's a lot like caffeine (or nicotine)--a powerful stimulant and highly addictive

Where the fuck do you get your information? Toilet stalls? MSG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosodium_glutamate) is a flavour enhancer. It can cause (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/monosodium-glutamate/AN01251) certain people with food sensitivities (like myself) to have headaches, nausea etc. What it is NOT is a 'lot like caffeine (or nicotine)--a powerful stimulant and highly addictive'. What a steaming load of shite you've dropped into this thread.
Dyakovo
04-04-2008, 00:56
I vote pete's coffee. It's not as common as the others, but that's a good thing, because most of these chains are a little too common. They're like starbucks, but better.

The one that doesn't serve any coffee...
:D
Sel Appa
04-04-2008, 02:40
Coffee is disgusting.
Smunkeeville
04-04-2008, 04:12
Coffee is disgusting.

Philistine! *grabs torch and pitchfork*
IL Ruffino
04-04-2008, 04:16
Dunkin' Donuts, followed by Starbucks and Cinnabon.
IL Ruffino
04-04-2008, 04:17
Although, McDonald's has good coffee too.
Sarkhaan
04-04-2008, 04:24
Dunkin' Donuts, followed by Starbucks and Cinnabon.

I like you.:)
IL Ruffino
04-04-2008, 04:27
I like you.:)

I like that you like me. :)

What do you order?
Sarkhaan
04-04-2008, 04:29
I like that you like me. :)

What do you order?
medium black coffee from dunkin. Starbucks if I have to, but I don't like to because a) they aren't on my drive in and b) they look really confused every time I order just a coffee.
IL Ruffino
04-04-2008, 04:35
medium black coffee from dunkin. Starbucks if I have to, but I don't like to because a) they aren't on my drive in and b) they look really confused every time I order just a coffee.

DD: Medium blueberry iced coffee. Depending on which one I go to, that is. Why? Because if you order a medium blueberry iced coffee at the one place, that's what you get, but if you go to the one that's closer and order a medium blueberry iced coffee, you'll get a small (not iced, not blueberry) coffee, a blueberry muffin, and a donut with icing. Silly Indians.

Do you really just say "I'll take a coffee."? My mom does that. The poor employees. :(
Sarkhaan
04-04-2008, 04:39
DD: Medium blueberry iced coffee. Depending on which one I go to, that is. Why? Because if you order a medium blueberry iced coffee at the one place, that's what you get, but if you go to the one that's closer and order a medium blueberry iced coffee, you'll get a small (not iced, not blueberry) coffee, a blueberry muffin, and a donut with icing. Silly Indians.

Do you really just say "I'll take a coffee."? My mom does that. The poor employees. :(

I go in and say "the usual" now. they know... They know.


I used to go in and say "Medium black coffee."
IL Ruffino
04-04-2008, 04:45
I go in and say "the usual" now. they know... They know.


I used to go in and say "Medium black coffee."

I like when they know exactly what you're going to order. *nods*

Mommy would say "Do you have regular coffee here?"
Sarkhaan
04-04-2008, 11:23
I like when they know exactly what you're going to order. *nods*

Mommy would say "Do you have regular coffee here?"

Well...atleast around here, "regular coffee" isn't black. Regular is just enough cream to be seen and tasted, and just enough sugar to cut the bitterness of the coffee. Never did understand why other people don't have that distinction...we already have a word for "black"...
L-rouge
04-04-2008, 11:39
Costa.
Risottia
04-04-2008, 11:40
Illy or Lavazza.
Yootopia
04-04-2008, 12:30
Caffe Nero is quite spiff.
Peepelonia
04-04-2008, 12:37
Meh whichever coffee shop I happen to spy when the urge hits.
Intangelon
04-04-2008, 12:38
Caribou Coffee up north.

Community Coffee down south.
Saxnot
04-04-2008, 12:48
Mommy would say "Do you have regular coffee here?"

What's wrong with that? It's a coffee shop. You ought, really, to be able to get a mug of black coffee.

I just get double espressos; what's the deal with giving you a glass of water in some places, too?
G3N13
04-04-2008, 14:09
WTF is a coffee chain? Is it chain made of coffee? :p


Best coffee is homemade coffee - Accept no substitutes.

Besides, I wouldn't call a place where you can't order coffee by saying 'one coffee, please' a coffee bar. :rolleyes:
Anti-Social Darwinism
04-04-2008, 16:04
From the list, Seattle's Best. Actually, though, there's a small chain here called Pike's Perk that I prefer.
VietnamSounds
04-04-2008, 16:58
WTF is a coffee chain? Is it chain made of coffee? :p


Best coffee is homemade coffee - Accept no substitutes.Not unless you happen to have an expensive coffee grinder or your hobby is growing your own coffee beans.
Agolthia
04-04-2008, 18:52
Clemintines would be mine. As far as I know its N.Ireland-only chain (possibly belfast-only). I actually don't like coffee but their other drinks and food arent too bad. Plus when starbucks came over, one of their aims was to put it out of bussiness. I always like the underdog :p.
Sagittarya
04-04-2008, 18:57
Seattle's Best is pretty damn good.