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Proof of God?

Hydesland
01-04-2008, 22:10
So I watched this video, I was kind of skeptical at first, but I think this guy offers actually a semi decent argument for why the existence of God is rationally nessecerry. It doesn't use the same old creationist crap, his argument seems quite unique to me and its more a priori rather than using flawed evidence, although the video is a little old, but don't let that throw you. Anyway I think I'll let NSG judge for themselves and see what they think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ybq7k8FSs
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 22:21
That's an impressive proof, but I don't need to see that video to believe. I know that God exists, and that He is never gonna give me up.
The South Islands
01-04-2008, 22:24
That's an impressive proof, but I don't need to see that video to believe. I know that God exists, and that He is never going give me up.

What about making you cry or saying goodbye?
Londim
01-04-2008, 22:26
That's an impressive proof, but I don't need to see that video to believe. I know that God exists, and that He is never going give me up...

...let you down
run around and desert you
make you cry
say goodbye
tell a lie and hurt you.
Ashmoria
01-04-2008, 22:27
that was really annoying.
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 22:28
...let you down
run around and desert you
make you cry
say goodbye
tell a lie and hurt you.

Exactly. Praise Jesus, anyone?
Londim
01-04-2008, 22:30
Exactly. Praise Jesus, anyone?

Praise Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)
Acrela
01-04-2008, 22:32
So I watched this video, I was kind of skeptical at first, but I think this guy offers actually a semi decent argument for why the existence of God is rationally nessecerry. It doesn't use the same old creationist crap, his argument seems quite unique to me and its more a priori rather than using flawed evidence, although the video is a little old, but don't let that throw you. Anyway I think I'll let NSG judge for themselves and see what they think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ybq7k8FSs

You do know that morphs into a music video, right...?
Der Teutoniker
01-04-2008, 22:33
So I watched this video, I was kind of skeptical at first, but I think this guy offers actually a semi decent argument for why the existence of God is rationally nessecerry. It doesn't use the same old creationist crap, his argument seems quite unique to me and its more a priori rather than using flawed evidence, although the video is a little old, but don't let that throw you. Anyway I think I'll let NSG judge for themselves and see what they think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ybq7k8FSs

Ummm, the video had a song that got stronger as the video went on. Is that what was supposed to have happened? :confused:

If not, can someone give me another link or something?
Namabia
01-04-2008, 22:33
God is real! And I have more than enough proof to show He is real!



Go JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):):)


Boo allah!:mad::mad:




No offense!;)
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 22:33
Praise Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)

I KNEW IT
Bedouin Raiders
01-04-2008, 22:33
Exactly. Praise Jesus, anyone?

Yep. I agree with you. Didn't watch the video. Just agreeing with you.

*Runs away before the atheists show up and and pull out clubs*
Hydesland
01-04-2008, 22:35
Ummm, the video had a song that got stronger as the video went on. Is that what was supposed to have happened? :confused:

If not, can someone give me another link or something?

This is indicative of a very serious computer virus. You should get a comp scan STAT.
Bedouin Raiders
01-04-2008, 22:35
Dude. You shouldn't be putting down someone's relgion even if you don't agree with them. It is just common courtesy
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 22:35
Ummm, the video had a song that got stronger as the video went on. Is that what was supposed to have happened? :confused:

If not, can someone give me another link or something?

Even more amusingly, the comments on that video go back for WEEKS, and there's still a very serious debate going on.
Der Teutoniker
01-04-2008, 22:36
Even more amusingly, the comments on that video go back for WEEKS, and there's still a very serious debate going on.

A debate about what?
Ashmoria
01-04-2008, 22:38
You do know that morphs into a music video, right...?

Ummm, the video had a song that got stronger as the video went on. Is that what was supposed to have happened? :confused:

If not, can someone give me another link or something?

i saw the original when it was first broadcase. this video, while very annoying, is far superior.

are you sure you arent receiving a transmission from god?
Londim
01-04-2008, 22:38
God is real! And I have more than enough proof to show He is real!



Go JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):)


Boo allah!:mad::mad:




No offense!;)

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_fg6_1a.jpg

There's even Action Figures!
Ultraviolent Radiation
01-04-2008, 22:38
Ummm, the video had a song that got stronger as the video went on. Is that what was supposed to have happened? :confused:

LOL!
Deus Malum
01-04-2008, 22:39
So I watched this video, I was kind of skeptical at first, but I think this guy offers actually a semi decent argument for why the existence of God is rationally nessecerry. It doesn't use the same old creationist crap, his argument seems quite unique to me and its more a priori rather than using flawed evidence, although the video is a little old, but don't let that throw you. Anyway I think I'll let NSG judge for themselves and see what they think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ybq7k8FSs

I knew it was a rickroll when I got up to "same old creationist crap."

Pretty much ALL of the arguments for the existence of god are the "same old creationist crap."
Hydesland
01-04-2008, 22:40
I knew it was a rickroll when I got up to "same old creationist crap."

Pretty much ALL of the arguments for the existence of god are the "same old creationist crap."

But I bet ya clicked it anyway ;)
Ashmoria
01-04-2008, 22:41
Even more amusingly, the comments on that video go back for WEEKS, and there's still a very serious debate going on.

that is just freaky. almost 600 comments on a presentation you cant hear.

are any of them about the song?
Deus Malum
01-04-2008, 22:43
But I bet ya clicked it anyway ;)

Even KNOWING what it was, it took some effort to force myself not to. :p
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 22:43
that is just freaky. almost 600 comments on a presentation you cant hear.

are any of them about the song?

I saw one or two ... the majority of the posters don't even react to them. That's almost sad.

EDIT: actually, on a closer look, I think the comments might be fake too
King Arthur the Great
01-04-2008, 22:48
Of course God exists. Many of you may be aware of String Theory.

While such a concept exists, many people have, unfortunately, gotten it wrong. Properly named, it is Noodle Theory, and it is the mathematical equations of the quantum mechanics of the spaghedeity, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

See, all of these remarks about interconnected strings are actually referring to the omnipresence of His Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Everything is connected to the FSM through extensions of His noodly appendages, so magnificently large that they can only be described numerically as infinite.

RAmen!
Ultraviolent Radiation
01-04-2008, 22:49
Of course God exists. Many of you may be aware of Rick Astley.

While such a concept exists, many people have, unfortunately, gotten it wrong. Properly named, it is Never gonna give you up, and it is the mathematical equations of the quantum mechanics of the spaghedeity, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

See, all of these remarks about never saying goodbye are actually referring to the omnipresence of His Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Everything is running around to the FSM through desertion of His noodly appendages, so magnificently large that they can only be described numerically as infinite.

Never gonna give you up!
Deus Malum
01-04-2008, 22:55
Of course God exists. Many of you may be aware of String Theory.

While such a concept exists, many people have, unfortunately, gotten it wrong. Properly named, it is Noodle Theory, and it is the mathematical equations of the quantum mechanics of the spaghedeity, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

See, all of these remarks about interconnected strings are actually referring to the omnipresence of His Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Everything is connected to the FSM through extensions of His noodly appendages, so magnificently large that they can only be described numerically as infinite.

RAmen!

Is it bad that I got really angry at the first line and almost posted an angry response without reading the rest of this post?

...angry physicist is angry.
King Arthur the Great
01-04-2008, 22:55
Of course God exists. Many of you may be aware of Rick Astley.

While such a concept exists, many people have, unfortunately, gotten it wrong. Properly named, it is Noodle Theory, and it is the mathematical equations of the quantum mechanics of the spaghedeity, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

See, all of these remarks about interconnected strings are actually referring to the omnipresence of His Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Everything is connected to the FSM through extensions of His noodly appendages, so magnificently large that they can only be described numerically as infinite.

Never gonna give you up!

I would use swear words, but I wish not to be banned by the Mods. Suffice it to say, Rick Astley (Rickroll) is not string theory, and String Theory is Noodle Theory. If you're gonna rip, at least use quote tags, man.

RAmen!
King Arthur the Great
01-04-2008, 22:58
Is it bad that I got really angry at the first line and almost posted an angry response without reading the rest of this post?

...angry physicist is angry.

Wait, are you agreeing that the improperly referenced String Theory is in fact proof of His Noodliness?

As for the angry, you didn't turn into a self-righteous bastard, thereby not violating any of the "Eight I'd-Really-Rather-You-Didn'ts". So, you're good. Feel free to disagree, but your politeness is appreciated.
Ultraviolent Radiation
01-04-2008, 23:00
I would use swear words, but I wish not to be banned by the Mods. Suffice it to say, Rick Astley (Rickroll) is not string theory, and String Theory is Noodle Theory. If you're gonna rip, at least use quote tags, man.

RAmen!

Fixed.
Hydesland
01-04-2008, 23:01
that is just freaky. almost 600 comments on a presentation you cant hear.

are any of them about the song?

Wanna bet how likely it is that this thread will eventually turn into a debate about the existence of God?
United Beleriand
01-04-2008, 23:01
Wow!

I'm convinced!

God exists!

And he's never gonna give you up...
Dregruk
01-04-2008, 23:04
Dude. You shouldn't be putting down someone's relgion even if you don't agree with them. It is just common courtesy

I think he just wants to tell you how he's feeling. We've gotta make you understand.
Abju
01-04-2008, 23:05
Wanna bet how likely it is that this thread will eventually turn into a debate about the existence of God?

Only if I can bet that it will. I'm not throwing away what little cash I don't have ;)
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 23:07
Wanna bet how likely it is that this thread will eventually turn into a debate about the existence of God?

In my expert opinion, the probability of that is exactly

Rick Astley / God

which is clearly equal to 1.
Jimbonio
01-04-2008, 23:08
First of all, that video is shit, it just fades in to one of the most annoying videos ever made (comparable to watching GOATSE (yes, that goatse) dance around), second of all, to all you tards who insult other religions in this thread, go [beep] yourselves, finally, "God" as an idea only exists because people need it to. for more explanation, you can contact me at jbucky1092+religion@gmail.com
Ultraviolent Radiation
01-04-2008, 23:10
First of all, that video is shit, it just fades in to one of the most annoying videos ever made (comparable to watching GOATSE (yes, that goatse) dance around), second of all, to all you tards who insult other religions in this thread, go [beep] yourselves, finally, "God" as an idea only exists because people need it to. for more explanation, you can contact me at jbucky1092+religion@gmail.com

For the second time this thread, LOL!
Durass
01-04-2008, 23:19
First of all, that video is shit, it just fades in to one of the most annoying videos ever made

From the inane to the annoying is not much of a fade,...


Oh and while I respect your right to believe whatever you want does not mean I have to respect those beliefs. Respect must be earned and few religious beliefs deserve any.
Demonic Gophers
01-04-2008, 23:25
I was going to ask for a summary of the argument, but I take it from the comments that the whole clip is, in fact, a joke?
United Beleriand
01-04-2008, 23:26
I was going to ask for a summary of the argument, but I take it from the comments that the whole clip is, in fact, a joke?
No, why?
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 23:28
I was going to ask for a summary of the argument, but I take it from the comments that the whole clip is, in fact, a joke?

No, it's not a joke. And if I were you, I wouldn't treat it like one, unless of course you're looking forward to being tortured in hell for eternity.
anarcho hippy land
01-04-2008, 23:30
So, I watch the video and that Rick Roll charecter stealls the stage.
What's up with that.
concerning, existance or nonexistance of deity. A more apprpiate queston may be. Can mankind deal without the concept of some comforting father/mother figure ?
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 23:31
So, I watch the video and that Rick Roll charecter stealls the stage.
What's up with that.
concerning, existance or nonexistance of deity. A more apprpiate queston may be. Can mankind deal without the concept of some comforting father/mother figure ?

Rick who? What are you talking about? I watched the whole video and it's a very well-constructed logical argument for God's existence ...
Demonic Gophers
01-04-2008, 23:32
No, why?

No, it's not a joke. And if I were you, I wouldn't treat it like one, unless of course you're looking forward to being tortured in hell for eternity.

Ah! Well in that case, care to provide a summary or transcript of the argument?
United Beleriand
01-04-2008, 23:33
Rick who? What are you talking about? I watched the whole video and it's a very well-constructed logical argument for God's existence ...q f t
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 23:33
Ah! Well in that case, care to provide a summary or transcript of the argument?

Not really, just watch the video. It's not very long.
Demonic Gophers
01-04-2008, 23:37
What if I'm deaf?


Disclaimer: I am not, in fact, deaf. But I could be! Have pity on the deaf people of the world.
Dynamic Revolution
01-04-2008, 23:40
O yea? you think you got it tough...I'm blind!
Kole and Phil
01-04-2008, 23:41
Considering i go to a school with an 8% deaf population, i do sympathize, even if i'm not deaf myself.
Rick Astley is probably more retarded to them than it is to me.
Almost as retarded as God.
Limericaust
01-04-2008, 23:44
What if I'm deaf?


Disclaimer: I am not, in fact, deaf. But I could be! Have pity on the deaf people of the world.

Oh! I'm sorry, how thoughtless of me. In that case, the argument may be summarized as follows:

First, the speaker addresses the characteristics of God with regard to His familiarity with love
Second, he assures the audience several times that God will never, in fact, abandon them or cause them sadness
and finally, he ties these premises together with a brilliant resolution of Hume's Ontological Paradox, illustrated with interpretive 1980's dance moves. Very compelling, natch.
New Manvir
02-04-2008, 00:24
Best Rickroll ever, although it would have been better if it were more abrupt.
Agenda07
02-04-2008, 17:47
Yep. I agree with you. Didn't watch the video. Just agreeing with you.

*Runs away before the atheists show up and and pull out clubs*

*puts on Darth Vader helmet*

I find your abundance of faith disturbing...

*pulls out club and runs after BR*
Peepelonia
02-04-2008, 17:52
Yep. I agree with you. Didn't watch the video. Just agreeing with you.

*Runs away before the atheists show up and and pull out clubs*

*sigh* Atheists don't have clubs, they have an absence of non members.:D
Agenda07
02-04-2008, 17:54
*sigh* Atheists don't have clubs, they have an absence of non members.:D

*brain explodes* :p
Hydesland
02-04-2008, 20:20
In my expert opinion, the probability of that is exactly

Rick Astley / God

which is clearly equal to 1.

In b4 dividing by 0
Mad hatters in jeans
02-04-2008, 20:55
I think if someone can recite the whole Rick Roll song, then they should be given a cookie, to proving God's existance. great way to merge the two.
What's even more funny is people debating God while there is a whole other song on it.
Dyakovo
02-04-2008, 22:40
Proof of God?

http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-03-26.gif
:D
Straughn
03-04-2008, 08:19
Praise Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)
Well played. :D
The PeoplesFreedom
03-04-2008, 08:25
I have heard that song waayyy too much in the last two days...
CthulhuFhtagn
03-04-2008, 08:38
Ah! Well in that case, care to provide a summary or transcript of the argument?

I've got a transcript.

We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

We've know each other for so long
Your heart's been aching
But you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it

And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

give you up. give you up
give you up, give you up
never gonna give
never gonna give, give you up
never gonna give
never gonna give, five you up

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you