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German sergeants facing cannibalism charges after using their own blood to make black puddings
Last updated at 17:13pm on 12th March 2008

Two German air force sergeants are facing court martials for cannibalism after drawing their own blood to make hearty black puddings.

The two men, based at a fighter squadron base near Munich, were photographed siphoning off their blood to mix with a mixture of onions, bacon, spices and breadcrumbs - according to the recipe of a grandmother of one of them.

Their efforts were published on the Internet, promptly drawing the kind of response that cannibal killer Armin Meiwes got when he sought a victim to kill in his remote farmhouse home in Germany in 2002. Hundreds of would-ba cannibals wrote in asking them for the recipe.

The men had plans to mass produce the sausages using the blood of comrades and family members they wanted tolet in on their little scheme.

But their commanding officers scuppered their catering sideline when one of their fellow soldiers complained: "I have been asked to give blood for sausage making and I want to know if this is against regulations."

The men, identified only as B, 25, and G, 29, were suspended immediately last December, the German defence ministry has confirmed.

The infamous cannibal Armin Meiwes - who later became a vegetarian

The problem for a military tribunal is that cannibalism itself is not in the German military rulebook. A source at the base at Fuerstenfeldbrueck, where the men worked in the medical department, said: "They will probably have to hit them with something like bringing the service into disrepute or disgracing the honour of the squadron.

"No-one has a clue what they were up to. It's not some weird gay thing - just weird.

"The girlfriend of one of them took the photos that were posted on the Internet using the nickname 'Stillborn', which shows the blood being drained and then them tucking into the blood sausage as it lay on a bed of pureed apples and mashed potatoes."

The recipe for the black puddings was found in the belongings of one of the men after they were arrested. It read: "Make sure the blood is fresh and the bacon cubes diced finely with a nice proportion of fat to lean. Do not use too many breadcrumbs but if the blood starts to curdle stir in a teaspoon of wine vinegar."

The men have told investigators they both had an "interest in cookery" and had experimented making the black puddings on several occasions.

The Teutonic fascination for cannibalism was first exposed at the trial of Meiwes in 2003 when he revealed a vast hidden world of would-be killers and victims who connected with one another on the Internet.

Meiwes finally killed, dismembered, froze and ate piece by piece a computer programmer who shared his strange obsession. Originally sentenced to eight-and-a-half years, he was given life on appeal by the prosecution.

This is similar to an "art project" (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21052655-13762,00.html) I remember.
So, aside from possible disease issues and the "ick factor", and assuming it's non-psychotic and consensual, is there anything wrong with autophagy?

Autocannibalism: It's not some werid gay thing.

As for my opinion of the matter, I'm not fond of people maiming themselves for whatever reason. Kind of wasteful.
Vampire-sausages I have no problem with.

Thats disgusting..... I mean, I've heard of blood sausages, but thats fucking ridiculous. Pardon the launguage, but I don't think that an 'oh my', quite covers it.

Autocannibalism: It's not some werid gay thing.

As for my opinion of the matter, I'm not fond of people maiming themselves for whatever reason. Kind of wasteful.
Vampire-sausages I have no problem with.

Indeed a good point. This no more maims than a blood donation.

Blood tastes good. I'd seriously eat one.

Speaking of "art," there's a new artist who ferments his feces and sells it as food. I'm not going to link to it, it's gross.

Blood tastes good. I'd seriously eat one.

Speaking of "art," there's a new artist who ferments his feces and sells it as food. I'm not going to link to it, it's gross.

Heh. I didn't see your cannibalism thread until after I posted this.

That indeed does have a high ick factor.

ummm...

how the hell would this be a "gay thing"?! :headbang::confused:

-Rafe

Because gay people are always cannibals.

Really? Even girls? If thats so I'm fucked. For some reason I tend to make friends with lesbians. Dunno why.

Meh. Autofellatio is better, albeit impossible.

Personally, I think black pudding is disgusting no matter what animal the blood comes from, so this is just slightly more revolting. I'm sure I bring great shame to my heritage for this (and my dislike out sauerkraut).

It's interesting, though, to ponder the boundaries of such a law in regards to your own blood. Is sucking blood from an injury cannibalism? What about sucking blood from an intentional injury? Or does the blood have to be decanted into something to be considered cannibalistic?

i've had dreams about eating myself. i'm pretty sure i was built way different whatever world my previous life was on then how humans are here.

obviously there's a few minor problems with eating yourself or your car.

i mean there's never more of yourself then there is.

=^^=
.../\...

Odd... very odd... if that's what you like though... meh.

I did find the soldier's complaint asking whether being asked to give blood to help make sausages was against the regulations hilarious. Join the army for a life of fighting terrorism and being farmed for your blood.

Personally, I think black pudding is disgusting no matter what animal the blood comes from, so this is just slightly more revolting. I'm sure I bring great shame to my heritage for this (and my dislike out sauerkraut).I'll assume you're not a vegetarian or vegan from that comment -- so what's so weird about eating one part of an animal as opposed to eating another part?

It's interesting, though, to ponder the boundaries of such a law in regards to your own blood. Is sucking blood from an injury cannibalism? What about sucking blood from an intentional injury? Or does the blood have to be decanted into something to be considered cannibalistic?I'd suppose it was only cannibalism if your main reason for injuring yourself was so you could suck up your blood.

Meh. Autofellatio is better, albeit impossible.

You know, I've seen that clip once...

Anyway, who would eat an auto anyway?

Anyway, who would eat an auto anyway?
Another auto? And I say it's wrong, I mean, what if I want to drive to work and I find just a gnawed wheel cover where I left my car?
No problem with the self eating though (as long as it's consensual, heh heh).

How could self eating not be consensual?... Maybe if the person had multiple personalities I guess... :confused:

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!
Urgh!

That's so wrong!

What sort of sick depraved...

Wait, it's the Luftwaffe post communism. That's all the explanation I need.

That has got to be a sectionable act.

Well as part of their military I guess they could be consider government property. So perhaps a charge of destruction of govt. property would have been a more appropriate charges.

just one more example of stupid,psychotic behavior that raises a debate.

Its wrong, ridiculous and has no basis in necessity.

I thought I was going to find they had some survival issue-but they didnt.

Just an absurd cottage-sausage industry.

They are crackpots.

There are health issues at play, but a court martial is extreme. So long as nobody was forced to give blood or tricked into eating the food produced by the blood, it shouldn't be a crime. They should just be reprimanded and made not to do it again while in employ of the army.

How could self eating not be consensual?...

I don't know, too, hence the laugh. Maybe we should ask the OP.

Maybe if the person had multiple personalities I guess... :confused:

I was thinking along the same lines, but in that case the consense isn't enough (as the case of the German cultured cannibal clearly shows).

Mmm... Tastes just like grandma used to.... taste.

How could self eating not be consensual?... Maybe if the person had multiple personalities I guess... :confused:
I don't know, too, hence the laugh. Maybe we should ask the OP.

Very fair complaint. Poor wording on my part. I intended consensual to cover acts

Well as part of their military I guess they could be consider government property. So perhaps a charge of destruction of govt. property would have been a more appropriate charges.

I don't know anout German military law, but I believe there have been cases under the UCMJ essentially based on that exact idea.

just one more example of stupid,psychotic behavior that raises a debate.

Its wrong, ridiculous and has no basis in necessity.

I thought I was going to find they had some survival issue-but they didnt.

Just an absurd cottage-sausage industry.

They are crackpots.

Crackpots maybe, but psychotic has yet to be shown on not, ayt least from the information at hand. (If you have access to evidence showing they were psychotic, please share.)
If no one suffers permenant harm, why is it wrong, ridiculous, and stupid?
And if you find all behavior must have a basis in necessity, what a sad drab life you must have. (And why are you engaging in unnecessary communication here?)

Meh. Autofellatio is better, albeit impossible.
You just haven't tried hard enough.

One could find that all activity on NSG has no basis in necessity and is therefore ridiculous and a waste.

You just haven't tried hard enough.Are you talking about the ability to perform auto-fellatio or whether auto-fellatio is better than auto-cannibalism? :confused:

Because gay people are always cannibals.

so Hannibal Lector is gay?

One could find that all activity on NSG has no basis in necessity and is therefore ridiculous and a waste.

Are you suggesting it isn't?

so Hannibal Lector is gay?Actually, I think he's bi. But I was kidding.

Also, I really don't see what's gross about eating blood. Nobody died. Maybe there's something wrong with me.

Has anyone heard of hippies who eat placenta? Does that count as cannibalism? Because it's actually not that uncommon with vegetarians.

is there anything wrong with autophagy?

No.

I'll assume you're not a vegetarian or vegan from that comment -- so what's so weird about eating one part of an animal as opposed to eating another part?/QUOTE]

I don't eat most meat, but not because I think it's wrong or gross, just because of the conditions under which animals are raised and slaughtered. So, to answer... there is no reasonable basis for my disgust. It's just one of those things that seems gross, like fried pig ears or marrying your sister.

[QUOTE=Kirchensittenbach;13562367]so Hannibal Lector is gay?

Was there ever even a question about that?

Has anyone heard of hippies who eat placenta? Does that count as cannibalism? Because it's actually not that uncommon with vegetarians.

This is actually practiced in a number of different societies, not just by hippies. I know in parts of Vietnam and the Philipines it is common.

I don't think taking your own blood and eating it is bad, however, they asked others to donate, which is worse...

Meh. Autofellatio is better, albeit impossible.

You are lucky you haven't seen as much as I have. Don't click on video clips if it doesn't say what they contain.

I'll assume you're not a vegetarian or vegan from that comment -- so what's so weird about eating one part of an animal as opposed to eating another part?


Bite into a piece of meat. Bite into a bone. Note the difference.

Bite into a piece of meat. Bite into a bone. Note the difference.

Yes, and? Bones are edible after all... I've eaten smaller animals cooked whole, bones included (fish and small birds like sparrow for example). Bone marrow dishes, such as ossobuco are quite nice. And I've had beef ribs barbequed so perfectly that even the bones practically melt in your mouth. And that's not to mention bone gelatine...

So, yes, don't waste animal parts unnecessarily.

Bite into a piece of meat. Bite into a bone. Note the difference.Try biting into milk... you consume different parts of the animal in different ways. One of the most basic things you can do with bones is to make the most excellent of stocks. Plus Daistallia also mentioned that with some small animals you can just eat the bones straight. Sardines/Pilchards are probably the most obvious example.