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German comic strip takes on Islamophobia and Islamic extremism

Ariddia
27-03-2008, 13:09
As European authorities grope for ways of combating the appeal of militant Islamism, one German security agency has hit on a novel idea: cartoon comics.

Officials in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW) had run a well received comic strip campaign against right-wing extremism in 2004 starring Andi, a schoolboy hero who stands up against xenophobia and racism.

Drawing on that experience, they launched Andi last October into a second adventure featuring his Muslim girlfriend Ayshe and her brother Murat, who comes under the influence of a radical friend and an Islamist "hate preacher".

The comic - printed in 100,000 copies and distributed to every secondary school in Germany's most populous state - aims to show young people the difference between peaceful mainstream Islam and the violent, intolerant version peddled by militants.

[...] The cartoon, featuring boldly drawn Manga-style figures, is designed to be used in citizenship and religion lessons for schoolchildren aged 12 to 16.

[...] Many security analysts speak of the need to counter the "narrative" of al Qaeda - the message that the West is waging war on Islam in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, and that young Muslims must fight back, including if necessary by sacrificing themselves as `martyrs'.

To some youngsters, experts say, al Qaeda offers a sense of identity, belonging and justice - not to mention adventure and an aura of `coolness'. The question is how to compete with that allure.

[...] At a conference this month in Stockholm, Swedish terrorism expert Magnus Ranstorp cited the example of Ahmad Dhani, an Indonesian rock star who challenged militant ideology in a massively popular album called Warriors of Love.

"I'm not suggesting that we need a musical jihad against extremism in Europe, or that we employ MTV in our efforts," Ranstorp said. But he raised the question: "How do we harness humour, soap opera and our tremendous public relations industries in these efforts to disarm the extremists' messages and influence over young people?"

Richard Barrett, a United Nations official who heads a task force studying counter-radicalisation and rehabilitation initiatives around the world, said role models such as singers, actors or sport stars could play an important part.

[...] "If you're serious about getting through to young people, you have to choose a style that they'll take in their hands and accept, that's how the comic came about," said Thomas Grumke, the NRW official who thought up the original Andi idea.

[...] Muslim reaction to Andi has been mostly positive, albeit with some reservations.

"We found the basic approach was right and good, we only regretted (the authorities) didn't tell us about this initiative in advance, then it could have been made much better," said Aiman Mazyek, general secretary of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany.

[...] Another regional government, Hamburg, is also using the Andi story, and there has been interest from Austria, Denmark, Japan and the United States.

Moeller said he believed the comic - which cost just 30,000 euros ($NZ60,000) for the artist and the print run - could help some Muslim youngsters to recognise and resist Islamist recruitment attempts.

"If I get through to someone this way, and it makes him more critical of people who want to make him a jihadist, then I've stopped him at some point committing terrorist attacks or going to a terrorist camp in Afghanistan or Pakistan," he said. "Maybe he won't slide off into this milieu - that's the idea."


(link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4452497a12.html))

Interesting idea. I'll be curious to see what comes of it.
PelecanusQuicks
27-03-2008, 13:29
I will be curious too. I like the psychology behind it and I hope it has the desired result. Kids need positive role models. :)
Heikoku
27-03-2008, 14:28
Manga was a good choice of style. It's been pretty appealing to many, and it tends not to lose the aura of cool. :)
Sanmartin
27-03-2008, 15:11
Probably reads about as stupid as a Jack Chick comic
Heikoku
27-03-2008, 15:32
Probably reads about as stupid as a Jack Chick comic

Its mere purpose makes that unlikely.
Ariddia
27-03-2008, 15:33
Probably reads about as stupid as a Jack Chick comic

Have you got some sort of basis for that view? Even semi-rational, anything at all? For assessing the merit of a comic strip you haven't read, and whose author you've presumably never heard of.
Laerod
27-03-2008, 15:35
(link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4452497a12.html))

Interesting idea. I'll be curious to see what comes of it.
Found a link to the full comics. (http://www.andi.nrw.de/)

I love the idea, but I would have been happier if the article hadn't mislabeled it as manga-style...
Sanmartin
27-03-2008, 15:35
Its mere purpose makes that unlikely.

Comics meant to do social engineering on kids is the purpose.

Same as Jack Chick, if you ask me. Kids usually find it ridiculous.
Laerod
27-03-2008, 15:42
Comics meant to do social engineering on kids is the purpose.

Same as Jack Chick, if you ask me. Kids usually find it ridiculous.That's like saying that Smallville sucks because Dharma and Greg sucks.
Copiosa Scotia
27-03-2008, 15:48
Comics meant to do social engineering on kids is the purpose.

Same as Jack Chick, if you ask me. Kids usually find it ridiculous.

For Jack Chick, it doesn't help that the ideas are at least as preposterous as their presentation. That doesn't seem to be the case here.
Sanmartin
27-03-2008, 15:50
That's like saying that Smallville sucks because Dharma and Greg sucks.

They both suck. QED.
Laerod
27-03-2008, 16:01
They both suck. QED.Independently from one another. QED.
Yootopia
27-03-2008, 16:11
(link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4452497a12.html))

Interesting idea. I'll be curious to see what comes of it.
Seeing as it came about in 2004, and in the 2005 elections the votes for both the CDU and NPD, neither party being particularly Islam-friendly, went up by about 9% overall, very little, and I don't really see how this is going to change with just another reprint.

As much as I hate Islamophobia, I don't think that it's children they should really be targetting, it should be the young-middle aged adults without jobs (and at 8.6 % unemployment as of December 2007, this is quite a few of them), who are the people who generally become vulnerable to holding prejudices, whether islamphobia or anything else.
Laerod
27-03-2008, 16:20
Seeing as it came about in 2004, and in the 2005 elections the votes for both the CDU and NPD, neither party being particularly Islam-friendly, went up by about 9% overall, very little, and I don't really see how this is going to change with just another reprint.It's highly unlikely that a comic targetting younger generations is going to be the primary concern for voters. This effort is more about creating a tolerant society than getting people to stop voting CDU, NPD, and Republicans.
Yootopia
27-03-2008, 16:25
It's highly unlikely that a comic targetting younger generations is going to be the primary concern for voters. This effort is more about creating a tolerant society than getting people to stop voting CDU, NPD, and Republicans.
Just a shame it probably won't effect much change in terms of the people at the top, then.
New Found Thought
27-03-2008, 16:31
Wish that I was fluent in German so I could read this as well, but it seems like a good idea. I don't know if the kids will dig in to it though. I remember seeing comic books in class around 12 years old and just seemed to be the school board trying to be "cool".

An alternative approach would be to tell the kids straight up, "There is a difference between these people of Islam, and those people of Islam." Discussion and honesty basically.
Anikdote
27-03-2008, 16:52
I don't like this thread or that comic. So I think I'll blow myself up and take as many people associated with this thread and the comic with me.
Magdha
27-03-2008, 22:06
Good.

Islamophobia and Islamic extremism should both be opposed.
Call to power
27-03-2008, 22:11
this plan seems to assume that kids read the crap schools give them :p

and I can assure you if I didn't bother why would a skinhead/an extremist western kid (which is something I have never seen)
Sumamba Buwhan
27-03-2008, 22:16
they should make it into a cartoon like Boondocks
Kirav
27-03-2008, 22:17
I like this. It's good when we can fight hate with art, rather than hate with stupidity or hate with hate.
Yootopia
27-03-2008, 22:23
I like this. It's good when we can fight hate with art, rather than hate with stupidity or hate with hate.
Aye, but what the hell does art actually do to stop hatred?

Art is for intellectualising over, hatred is a pure, carnal emotion. And those emotions are powerful things.
The Infinite Dunes
27-03-2008, 22:50
this plan seems to assume that kids read the crap schools give them :p

and I can assure you if I didn't bother why would a skinhead/an extremist western kid (which is something I have never seen)So what you're saying that instead of giving the comic to kids for free we should charge them for the comic or something? Sweet. I suppose what you really need is a plant who will peddle the comics to the kids and ban them in school or something.

I do seem to remember this that free handouts at school were looked upon with disdain.

Oh, and the narrative better be decent. There's nothing worse than preachy government literature with a bad plot and bad dialogue.
Kirav
27-03-2008, 23:03
Aye, but what the hell does art actually do to stop hatred?

Art is for intellectualising over, hatred is a pure, carnal emotion. And those emotions are powerful things.

Good question. I think that art can present an alternate view that might convince people to reconsider their personal hatreds. It might not work on the masses, but you could end up convincing the next Gandhi or MLK.
Heikoku
28-03-2008, 00:04
Oh, and the narrative better be decent. There's nothing worse than preachy government literature with a bad plot and bad dialogue.

That's a point. There are educational comics that are meant ONLY to educate, not to entertain, and as a reason do neither. There are educational comics that are meant to BOTH educate AND entertain, and THAT'S what this comic should do if its author, good and noble as his intentions may be, wants to be heard.
Yootopia
28-03-2008, 00:14
Good question. I think that art can present an alternate view that might convince people to reconsider their personal hatreds. It might not work on the masses, but you could end up convincing the next Gandhi or MLK.
Aye, but the situation for the Turkish in Germany is nothing like that of the black population in the US, nor the Indians in India. They're not legally held down.

Institutionally, there is prejudice against them, just as there is prejudice against blacks, Arabs etc. all over the Western world, but there's nothing which is 'legitimately' holding them back.
Seangoli Deuce
28-03-2008, 01:24
(link (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4452497a12.html))

Interesting idea. I'll be curious to see what comes of it.

Ya know, it's actually a well thought out, intelligent response to the problem. Of course, Islamaphobes have kneejerk reactions to anything Islam, don't understand that to fight something like Al Queda, you can't just fight them, you gotta hit them where it *really* hurts: Their recruitment effectiveness. Hopefully this works.
Gauthier
28-03-2008, 01:28
Ya know, it's actually a well thought out, intelligent response to the problem. Of course, Islamaphobes have kneejerk reactions to anything Islam, don't understand that to fight something like Al Queda, you can't just fight them, you gotta hit them where it *really* hurts: Their recruitment effectiveness. Hopefully this works.

In before the 101st Fighting Keyboarders and their "Why Do Hate Freedom You IslamoNazi Sympathizers?" rant.

Simply put, they don't want to understand Islam and how the jihadis have twisted it to their own ends. Muslims are simply the new guilt-free Other that they can all rally around and feel good trying to demonize and even oppress if given the means and opportunity. Which in turn feeds the jihadi propaganda machine more.

It's a case of two fucking fruitcake factions scratching each other's backs.