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Nine

Anti-Social Darwinism
23-03-2008, 07:39
I like nine, and multiples of nine as well as nine added to other numbers. It’s symmetrical and orderly.

For instance, 9x2=18, 1+8=9

9x3=27, 2+7=9

This goes on infinitely, you can’t find a product of multiples of nine where the sum of the integers in the product doesn’t equal nine.

The same goes for squares, cubes and any power of nine, the sum of the integers in the product always equals nine or a multiple of nine, which, in turn, will add up to nine.

Adding nine to things gets interesting, too. 1+9=10, 1+0=1

2+9=11, 1+1=2

14+9=23, 1+4=5 and 2+3=5

141+9=150, 1+4+1=6, 1+5+0=6

This also goes on infinitely.

I have no idea what use this is, I just think it’s fun.
Guibou
23-03-2008, 07:42
I like all numbers equally.
RhynoD
23-03-2008, 07:45
I like all numbers equally.

Like, totally, dude. Fight the man.
Cannot think of a name
23-03-2008, 07:51
When I raced my number was 9 because it was my grandfathers number. And it seemed kind of awesome and menacing. Don't know why.
RhynoD
23-03-2008, 08:00
When I raced my number was 9 because it was my grandfathers number. And it seemed kind of awesome and menacing. Don't know why.

Not as menacing as 7.
Cameroi
23-03-2008, 08:08
baha'u'llah seemed to have had fun with the numbers 9, 19, 95 and 2. and somehow the numbers 44 and 63 are supposed to have fit in there somehow, but it's beyond me quite how.

(the years 1844 and 1863 were 19 years appart. and the bab and baha'u'llah make 2, though they never met face to face. at any rate 9 is the number of baha which means glory. whatever the permutations of that are.)

i suppose you could try those numbers on a lottery ticket, but if probability theory holds, and i see no reason why not, their not any more likely to do any better then any others.

=^^=
.../\...
Big Jim P
23-03-2008, 08:09
Nine is the true Satanic number: It is the number of the ego as it always returns to itself (as pointed out in the OP).
Indri
23-03-2008, 08:31
I like 12.
Cameroi
23-03-2008, 08:33
Nine is the true Satanic number: It is the number of the ego as it always returns to itself (as pointed out in the OP).

except that the concept of "satanic" is entirely human invented mumbo jumbo, as an excuse for the inveariably inexcusable pretext of 'us' and 'them' to justify the one true immorality of knowingly causing avoidable suffering.

=^^=
.../\...
Amarenthe
23-03-2008, 08:34
I like 3, 1, and combinations - 11, 13, 31, 33, 111, 113, etc. Obviously preference goes to those combinations which include both 3 and 1, but in a pinch, 11 or 33 will do (I like 3 better than 1, so 33 would win).
The Alma Mater
23-03-2008, 08:37
I like nine, and multiples of nine as well as nine added to other numbers. It’s symmetrical and orderly.

For instance, 9x2=18, 1+8=9

9x3=27, 2+7=9

This goes on infinitely, you can’t find a product of multiples of nine where the sum of the integers in the product doesn’t equal nine.

Do you also like four then ? Because everything is four ;)

Example: horse.
Horse has five letters.
Five has four letters.
Four has four letters. Hurrah !

Example: monkey
Monkey has six letters
six has three letters
three has five letters
Five has four letters.
Four has four letters. Hurrah !

:)
JacksMannequin
23-03-2008, 08:59
I like 75. That's a good number.

7+5=12
1+2=3
Three has five letters in it
five has... four.... letters in it. :eek:
RhynoD
23-03-2008, 09:02
except that the concept of "satanic" is entirely human invented mumbo jumbo, as an excuse for the inveariably inexcusable pretext of 'us' and 'them' to justify the one true immorality of knowingly causing avoidable suffering.

=^^=
.../\...

Epic fail is epic.

Annoying text macro is annoying.
Lapse
23-03-2008, 09:18
Do you also like four then ? Because everything is four ;)

:)

scary.... although, when you think about it, it is the only number that has that many letters in it, everything will come back to it...

And it wouldn't work in all languages... think of it in swahilian...
tumbili (vervet monkey)
saba (seven)
nne (four)
tatu (three)
nne (four)
tatu (three)
... And that is a loop...
Boonytopia
23-03-2008, 09:35
I like 9 too. My day, month & year of birth all relate to 9.
The Alma Mater
23-03-2008, 09:35
scary.... although, when you think about it, it is the only number that has that many letters in it, everything will come back to it...

Of course - but the "strangeness" of 9 in the OP is also easy to understand ;)

While we are discussing strange numbers - a little challenge. Why does the following work ?

Assume we wish to multiply 2 (whole and positive) numbers. Say 612 and 350.
Now perform the following steps:
Halve the first number repeatedly, ignoring remainders each time, until you reach 1.
Double the second number repeatedly as often as you halved the first.
Add the doubles that have an odd half counterpart.

Let us do that for my example:


612 x 350 = 214200
306 700
153 1400
76 2800
38 5600
19 11200
9 22400
4 44800
2 89600
1 179200 +
-------
214200 (only the bolded "odd" ones were added)


Explain why this works.
JuNii
23-03-2008, 09:44
I like nine, and multiples of nine as well as nine added to other numbers. It’s symmetrical and orderly.

For instance, 9x2=18, 1+8=9

9x3=27, 2+7=9

This goes on infinitely, you can’t find a product of multiples of nine where the sum of the integers in the product doesn’t equal nine.

The same goes for squares, cubes and any power of nine, the sum of the integers in the product always equals nine or a multiple of nine, which, in turn, will add up to nine.

Adding nine to things gets interesting, too. 1+9=10, 1+0=1

2+9=11, 1+1=2

14+9=23, 1+4=5 and 2+3=5

141+9=150, 1+4+1=6, 1+5+0=6

This also goes on infinitely.

I have no idea what use this is, I just think it’s fun.

multiplying by nine can also be done with fingers. 9x4? put down the fourth finger and the number of digits to the left of the third finger is the tens and to the right is the ones (using two hands).

so 9x4... 3 fingers to the left, and 6 to the right of the folded finger... 36

you can even swear with nine.

FU9

9= Kyu in Japanese...

so FuKyu. :p
Lapse
23-03-2008, 09:53
Explain why this works.

I can see it from a logical perspective... just hard to put it in algebraic terms...
The Infinite Dunes
23-03-2008, 12:17
To the OP. It is not nine you love but base-1 (which is 9 in decimal). Consider base 4 (1,2,3,0):
3*2 = 3+3 = 10 + 2 = 12
1 + 2 = 3


612 x 350 = 214200
306 700
153 1400
76 2800
38 5600
19 11200
9 22400
4 44800
2 89600
1 179200 +
-------
214200 (only the bolded "odd" ones were added)


Explain why this works.

What is being done is an attempt to simplify the equation only by dividing by 2. This is great if you start with 2^n on the left, but harder if you don't. 3*4 -> 1.5*8 which doesn't help us at all.

So instead of using are usual form of division we use integer division. Where 7/2 = 3 and remainder = 1 (or 3 and 1/2)

Using integer division on 4*5 we get
4*5 = 4/2 * 5*2
= 2 * 10
= 2/2 * 10*2
= 1 * 20
= 20


Using integer division on 7*5 we get
7*5 = 7/2 * 2*5
= (3 + 1/2) * 2*5
= 3*10 + 5
= 3/2 * 2*10 + 5
= (1 + 1/2) * 2*10 + 5
= 1*20 + 10 + 5
= 20 + 10 + 5
= 35
So at each stage where you halve an odd number you lose a little bit of the equation which is why you add all the odd numbers.
Anti-Social Darwinism
23-03-2008, 16:01
To the OP. It is not nine you love but base-1 (which is 9 in decimal). Consider base 4 (1,2,3,0):
3*2 = 3+3 = 10 + 2 = 12
1 + 2 = 3

If you try that in binary, everything becomes 0.
Mad hatters in jeans
23-03-2008, 16:07
i like the number 2, it's got that curve then it hits you with a straight near the end.
*looks at rest of thread*
wha? i think i got into the wrong thread:confused:
SaintB
23-03-2008, 16:12
Not as menacing as 7.

Because it ate nine?
Mad hatters in jeans
23-03-2008, 16:13
Because it ate nine?

*groans*
that was bad.very bad. very very bad. very very very bad.
baaaad SaintB.
SaintB
23-03-2008, 16:15
It was like a fire burning in the back of my head until it became an irresistable compulsion... would ithelp if I told you that I resisted for a whole.. 30 seconds...

My favorite number is 0 because it is also a race track, the letter O and the only single digit number that wasn't a sesame street sponsor.. fighting the system man!
Mad hatters in jeans
23-03-2008, 16:20
It was like a fire burning in the back of my head until it became an irresistable compulsion... would ithelp if I told you that I resisted for a whole.. 30 seconds...

My favorite number is 0 because it is also a race track, the letter O and the only single digit number that wasn't a sesame street sponsor.. fighting the system man!
30 seconds is good, however a better idea is to think of another way to make fun of the numbers there. well maybe, hmm that sounds a bit contradictory but what the hell, i'm not perfect.

See i'm wondering about that, sure it would be nice to fight the system, but wouldn't that be like fighting ourselves?
By day a bank clerk, by night a hellraiser, then about 3 days rest in between to sleep. might become a bit confusing, by day you'd complain about those vandals, by night you'd complain about the bureaucratic system.
PelecanusQuicks
23-03-2008, 16:36
Nines are fun. I worked in banking years ago and our first order of operations if we were out of balance (in bookkeeping) was to divide by 9. If it divided evenly, odds were very high that there was simply an inverted number somewhere. So if you balance a checkbook and you are off, divide the number by 9...if it divides evenly you have an inverted number somewhere. ;)
IL Ruffino
23-03-2008, 17:54
28 is the greatest number ever.
Deus Malum
23-03-2008, 18:09
I like nine, and multiples of nine as well as nine added to other numbers. It’s symmetrical and orderly.

For instance, 9x2=18, 1+8=9

9x3=27, 2+7=9

This goes on infinitely, you can’t find a product of multiples of nine where the sum of the integers in the product doesn’t equal nine.

The same goes for squares, cubes and any power of nine, the sum of the integers in the product always equals nine or a multiple of nine, which, in turn, will add up to nine.

Adding nine to things gets interesting, too. 1+9=10, 1+0=1

2+9=11, 1+1=2

14+9=23, 1+4=5 and 2+3=5

141+9=150, 1+4+1=6, 1+5+0=6

This also goes on infinitely.

I have no idea what use this is, I just think it’s fun.

It's actually really just a result of using base 10, and not actually a "property" of the number 9.

Were we, for instance use a base 8, all those examples would hold true of seven.
7 * 2 = 16 (in base 8) 1 + 6 = 7
7 * 3 = 25 (in base 8) 2 + 5 = 7

In base 8
2 + 7 = 11, 1 + 1 = 2
etc.
Bedouin Raiders
23-03-2008, 19:59
I like all numbers equally.

Pinko Commie
Go back to the soviet union;)
Guibou
23-03-2008, 20:17
Pinko Commie
Go back to the soviet union;)

They kicked me out for loving everyone equally!
The Infinite Dunes
23-03-2008, 20:42
If you try that in binary, everything becomes 0.Surely you mean 1 as binary is base 2.

1*1 = 1

But yes, the arithmetic doesn't seem quite so impressive in binary.
Vojvodina-Nihon
23-03-2008, 20:49
Epic fail is epic.

Annoying text macro is annoying.

Irritating, redundant catch-phrase is irritating and redundant.

*hits RhynoD with a broadside from the ASS Sparta*

Also, in binary arithmetic everything comes back to 1, not 0. Witness: 100 x 11 = 1100. 1+1+0+0 = 10. 1+0 = 1. ... 101 x 100 = 10100. 1+0+1+0+0 = 10. 1+0 = 1...

but binary gets boring and confusing after a few minutes.
Trans Fatty Acids
23-03-2008, 23:07
I think it's the only single-digit musical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_(musical)).
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-03-2008, 21:14
Surely you mean 1 as binary is base 2.

1*1 = 1

But yes, the arithmetic doesn't seem quite so impressive in binary.

I don't usually like to resurrect a dying thread, but I needed to answer this

Actually, I learned that binary was base 1. It's called binary because it's a two place system - 1,0 so when you count you have

1=1
10=2
11=3
100=4
101=5
110=6
111=7
1000=8
1001=9
1010=10

and so on.

Since 1 is the base number, the base minus 1=0

I like binary, too.

It's used in programming since the 1,0 sequence is used to symbolize the yes-no basis of programming - you can pack a lot of information in a binary string.
Evil Turnips
24-03-2008, 21:23
23! :eek:
Mad hatters in jeans
24-03-2008, 22:46
23! :eek:

aggg, not you too, that film scared me more than most other people.
Afterwatching the film my mates say;
(mate one) "wow that's freaky i have 23 in my phone number!"
(other mate) "well my address has 23 in it, that's scary, hey what about you?"
(me still mesmerised) "I have the same birthday as Jim Carrey, 02/03!"
Yeah they shut up a bit after that.:)
Tmutarakhan
25-03-2008, 00:26
Of course - but the "strangeness" of 9 in the OP is also easy to understand ;)

While we are discussing strange numbers - a little challenge. Why does the following work ?

Assume we wish to multiply 2 (whole and positive) numbers. Say 612 and 350.
Now perform the following steps:
Halve the first number repeatedly, ignoring remainders each time, until you reach 1.
Double the second number repeatedly as often as you halved the first.
Add the doubles that have an odd half counterpart.

Let us do that for my example:


612 x 350 = 214200
306 700
153 1400
76 2800
38 5600
19 11200
9 22400
4 44800
2 89600
1 179200 +
-------
214200 (only the bolded "odd" ones were added)


Explain why this works.

You are converting 612 into binary: 612 = 306 twos = 153 fours = 76 eights plus an odd four = 38 sixteens (and a four) = 19 thirty-twos (and a four) = 9 sixty-fours and a thirty-two and a four = 4 one-hundred-twenty-eights plus a sixty-four and a thirty-two and a four... thus
612 base 10 = 1001100100 base 2, the sum of 512+64+32+4.
What you are doing to 350 is multiplying it by the powers of two, and saving 350 times 4, times 32, times 64, and times 512, thus multiplying by the binary conversion of 612 without having to convert 350 itself into binary.
New Manvir
25-03-2008, 00:51
Not as menacing as 7.

789

it's a cannibal.
Peepelonia
25-03-2008, 11:48
I like nine, and multiples of nine as well as nine added to other numbers. It’s symmetrical and orderly.

For instance, 9x2=18, 1+8=9

9x3=27, 2+7=9

This goes on infinitely, you can’t find a product of multiples of nine where the sum of the integers in the product doesn’t equal nine.

The same goes for squares, cubes and any power of nine, the sum of the integers in the product always equals nine or a multiple of nine, which, in turn, will add up to nine.

Adding nine to things gets interesting, too. 1+9=10, 1+0=1

2+9=11, 1+1=2

14+9=23, 1+4=5 and 2+3=5

141+9=150, 1+4+1=6, 1+5+0=6

This also goes on infinitely.

I have no idea what use this is, I just think it’s fun.

Heh yeah 9 is an important number for those Asatru out there being 3x3 and all. I like nine.