NationStates Jolt Archive

Interesting.

I am basically doing the same as I really don't have an interest in seeing them this time. For some reason; it just seems wrong to watch them.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldOfSport/idINIndia-32605720080320

I doubt the US would even consider it. Might offend our debt masters. The last time we did that was in the 80's to protest the dirty commie....wait what?

I never watch the olympics anyway. I'm just not much of a sport person.

Not smart, the EU buys a whole lot from the Chinese slave factories.

I'm not going to be watching them either out of protest this time, though I usually tune into one or two events. However, the Parliament doesn't have the authority to actually mandate a boycott, though there should at the very least be a boycott of the opening ceremony, in my opinion.

I never watch the olympics. Just not interesting.

Although I fully support this year's olympics because I feel anyone who boycotts it has stupid reasons to do so. So I openly support the Chinese olympics, and how they're trying to deal with the protesters.

Not smart, the EU buys a whole lot from the Chinese slave factories.
European business could actually stand to benefit from less Chinses competition...

EDIT: China also has a lot to lose, if you ask the Chinese. (http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/xw/t272113.htm)

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Sorry, the EU is going to order countries to leave an event they enter as soverign nations? OK, anyone who blows up the whole EU Parliament will go on the Honours list for Dukeburyshire!!!!

Seriously, Who The Hell Do They Think They Are???!!!!!!!!!

What right have they got to order people to boycott China? I will watch it now just to spite the EU. (and I hate Sport!)

Anyway, other than Tianamen square, what has China done the EU isn't trying to do?

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Sorry, the EU is going to order countries to leave an event they enter as soverign nations? OK, anyone who blows up the whole EU Parliament will go on the Honours list for Dukeburyshire!!!!

Seriously, Who The Hell Do They Think They Are???!!!!!!!!!

What right have they got to order people to boycott China? I will watch it now just to spite the EU. (and I hate Sport!)

Anyway, other than Tianamen square, what has China done the EU isn't trying to do?

I think you misread everything, or didn't read.

The EU is voting on whether it should encourage its members to boycott. It can't make them go either way.

I think you misread everything, or didn't read.

The EU is voting on whether it should encourage its members to boycott. It can't make them go either way.

But still, they're way out of line. They're a shopkeeper's protection racket!!!!!!

But still, they're way out of line. They're a shopkeeper's protection racket!!!!!!

How is it out of line when it's their entire point of existance to facilitate such discussion? The EU exists to allow member nations to discuss and debate things they may feel important affecting them together, and that happens to be exactly what this is.

As stupid as I think the boycott is, the EU is well within its lines to do this, it is why they exist.

i would say that such a decision would make the eu assembly assholes.

its neither fair to the athletes nor the host country to boycott so close to the start of the games.

china is not out of line in cracking down on the tibetan riots.

i would say that such a decision would make the eu assembly assholes.

its neither fair to the athletes nor the host country to boycott so close to the start of the games.

china is not out of line in cracking down on the tibetan riots.

Just out of order occupying Tibet.

How is it out of line when it's their entire point of existance to facilitate such discussion? The EU exists to allow member nations to discuss and debate things they may feel important affecting them together, and that happens to be exactly what this is.

As stupid as I think the boycott is, the EU is well within its lines to do this, it is why they exist.

The EU is meant to make trade Easier, not screw with international relations.

Let's not give them power above their station. After all, It's got Germans and French in it. That makes it dangerous, and prone to disaster. (see 1870, 1914, 1940, the 30 Years War)

Hm. Last I heard a boycott was out of the question as it would be "unfair to the atheletes". Guess some changed their mind.


I doubt itll happen anyway.

Just out of order occupying Tibet.

they were "occupying" tibet when they got the games. if the EU didnt like it they should have boycotted then.

European business could actually stand to benefit from less Chinses competition...

EDIT: China also has a lot to lose, if you ask the Chinese. (http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/xw/t272113.htm)

Really? I was under the impression that the EU was the second most selling spot for the Chinese.

they were "occupying" tibet when they got the games. if the EU didnt like it they should have boycotted then.

I think we ought to stop trading with China until they free Tibet.

That'd help the Economy of Europe a lot more than the EU.

I think we ought to stop trading with China until they free Tibet.

That'd help the Economy of Europe a lot more than the EU.

go for it.

Anyway, other than Tianamen square, what has China done the EU isn't trying to do?

Just out of order occupying Tibet.

Well........

"But still, they're way out of line. They're a shopkeeper's protection racket!!!!!!"

Which country is it that's a nation of shopkeepers?


The EU is meant to make trade Easier, not screw with international relations.

Let's not give them power above their station. After all, It's got Germans and French in it. That makes it dangerous, and prone to disaster. (see 1870, 1914, 1940, the 30 Years War)

Bless, the United Kingdom, the land that irony forgot.

But still, they're way out of line. They're a shopkeeper's protection racket!!!!!!Nope. The EU was planned from the very beginning as a gradual political union.
i would say that such a decision would make the eu assembly assholes.

its neither fair to the athletes nor the host country to boycott so close to the start of the games.

china is not out of line in cracking down on the tibetan riots.Not fair to China? If I recall correctly, one reason China got the games was because they promised to clean up their human rights record. They haven't, and how they're dealing with the Tibetan riots is a good example that they don't intend to. Perhaps its time they learn the consequences of hollow promises.
The EU is meant to make trade Easier, not screw with international relations.Prove it.
Let's not give them power above their station. After all, It's got Germans and French in it. That makes it dangerous, and prone to disaster. (see 1870, 1914, 1940, the 30 Years War)The EU and its precursors are the reason why there hasn't been any Franco-German wars since WWII.
Really? I was under the impression that the EU was the second most selling spot for the Chinese.Which means the Chinese would stand to lose all that money that they gain by selling there.

:headbang:

Sorry, the EU is going to order countries to leave an event they enter as soverign nations? OK, anyone who blows up the whole EU Parliament will go on the Honours list for Dukeburyshire!!!!

Seriously, Who The Hell Do They Think They Are???!!!!!!!!!

What right have they got to order people to boycott China? I will watch it now just to spite the EU. (and I hate Sport!)

Anyway, other than Tianamen square, what has China done the EU isn't trying to do?

But still, they're way out of line. They're a shopkeeper's protection racket!!!!!!

The EU is meant to make trade Easier, not screw with international relations.

Let's not give them power above their station. After all, It's got Germans and French in it. That makes it dangerous, and prone to disaster. (see 1870, 1914, 1940, the 30 Years War)
The fact that this is what the majority of people think of the EU (and our continental neighbours) really does make me cringe.

The EU and its precursors are the reason why there hasn't been any Franco-German wars since WWII..


I had always thought that the reason for no more Franco-German wars was that they finally learned how much they really, really suck.

2008 is shaping up to be an echo of 1936. Now if only there were the Tibetan equivalent of Jesse Owens.

Free Tibet.

I had always thought that the reason for no more Franco-German wars was that they finally learned how much they really, really suck.What a silly premise.

Just out of order occupying Tibet.
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Seeing as you want the British Empire back, how is the Chinese occupying Tibet, a completely backwards country, any different from us occupying some of the lamer and more hilly parts of Africa?



Anyway, the EU has no real juristiction on this matter, which is a Good Thing.

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Seeing as you want the British Empire back, how is the Chinese occupying Tibet, a completely backwards country, any different from us occupying some of the lamer and more hilly parts of Africa?


Erm, lets see:

British Empire, Advancement of Countries with long tem plan for autonomy and freedoms maintained.

China, Country determined to Progress at all costs with no concern for the individual. Freedoms repressed.

Erm, lets see:

British Empire, Advancement of Countries with long tem plan for autonomy and freedoms maintained.

China, Country determined to Progress at all costs with no concern for the individual. Freedoms repressed.False analogy. Here's a better one:

British Empire: Exploitation and oppression based on White Man's Burden.
PR China: Exploitation and oppression based on Communist Manifesto.

Precious little difference.

China deserves some harsh international pressure, expecially for what they have been up to in Tibet recently. Maybe boycotting the Olympics is a little extreme, maybe its not. If the EU and America boycotted Chinese goods, they would both take a big hit economically, but the chinese economy would take an even bigger hit. China has a lot more to lose than we do.

China deserves some harsh international pressure, expecially for what they have been up to in Tibet recently. Maybe boycotting the Olympics is a little extreme, maybe its not. If the EU and America boycotted Chinese goods, they would both take a big hit economically, but the chinese economy would take an even bigger hit. China has a lot more to lose than we do.

And Europe has a lot more to gain.

And Europe has a lot more to gain.Not that much more. Airbus stands to lose a lot if sanctions turn economic, as does Boeing.

Not that much more. Airbus stands to lose a lot if sanctions turn economic, as does Boeing.

Short term. In the Long Term it's a good chance to get people off the dole.

Erm, lets see:

British Empire, Advancement of Countries with long tem plan for autonomy and freedoms maintained.

China, Country determined to Progress at all costs with no concern for the individual. Freedoms repressed.

The only countries under British domination that have actually advanced were the ones where the native populations were marginalized/ exterminated. Hong Kong and Singapore being the lone exceptions.

The only countries under British domination that have actually advanced were the ones where the native populations were marginalized/ exterminated. Hong Kong and Singapore being the lone exceptions.

India?

India?

india has not really advanced since British occupation. Most of the Rail Roads and even some of the trains in present day India where built by the British.

india has not really advanced since British occupation. Most of the Rail Roads and even some of the trains in present day India where built by the British.

Sort of proves my point.

Sort of proves my point.

One country out of how many?


Not a good track record.

india has not really advanced since British occupation. Most of the Rail Roads and even some of the trains in present day India where built by the British.
But most of the Internet connections and airports were not.
Why are you only looking at railroads, of all things???

False analogy. Here's a better one:

British Empire: Exploitation and oppression based on White Man's Burden.
PR China: Exploitation and oppression based on Communist Manifesto.

Precious little difference.

To be fair the original intention was an empire of liberty. Then we realised there was money to be made and that went straight out the window.

I'm not watching the Olympics this year. China's inhumane treatment of the Tibetans is disgusting. Hell, why not let Sudan host the next summer games in Darfur? :upyours:

If the IOC can ignore Tibet, I can ignore the Olympics.

I'm not watching the Olympics this year. China's inhumane treatment of the Tibetans is disgusting. Hell, why not let Sudan host the next summer games in Darfur? :upyours:

If the IOC can ignore Tibet, I can ignore the Olympics.

Except there is no active genocide, nor civil war, going on in China...

To be fair the original intention was an empire of liberty.

I dunno; doesn't sound anti-British enough to be true.

Erm, lets see:

British Empire, Advancement of Countries with long tem plan for autonomy and freedoms maintained.
Oh please. Freedoms were not maintained in the Empire, nor was there really a long term plan for autonomy of the Provinces. More 'ah, the public doesn't like it and there's no real point in it any morem, let's just drop it' than anything else.
China, Country determined to Progress at all costs with no concern for the individual. Freedoms repressed.
Err basically the same as above, let's be honest, also they've brought technology to Tibet which simply wasn't there before its invasion, just as we did in some of our territories.

To be fair the original intention was an empire of liberty. Then we realised there was money to be made and that went straight out the window.
And I'm sure the Chinese really wanted to make everyone communist and cheery, but that went out of the window, too.

That's just how it goes with empires.

But most of the Internet connections and airports were not.
Why are you only looking at railroads, of all things???

because railroads are the epitome of a modern society. Naw, I duuno, cuz it makes my idea look better.

To be fair the original intention was an empire of liberty. Then we realised there was money to be made and that went straight out the window.The original intention of Communism was social justice. Again, no real difference.

I dislike the Olympics anyway (biggest sports event my ass, World Cup kicks it's ass), now I really don't like it.