NationStates Jolt Archive

The idea of this thread is (1) post some of your favorite bands/music, (2) categorize bands that have been listed, and (3) tell me what the hell "emo" is.

This thread swirls from a discussion in another thread I was in that was classifying music I like as "emo." I take no offense at that, but am unclear what it signifies.

I also am wishing to build on prior threads in which I have seen vicious lobbying over what qualifies as punk, alternative, etc. I think many of the bands I listen to defy easy categorization.

Anyway, here are a list of some of my favorites in no particular order (bolded names I've seen live at least once):
Nirvana
Jane's Addiction
The Pogues
The Grateful Dead
Rage Against the Machine
Liz Phair
Courtney Love
Social Distortion
Lyle Lovett
George Gershwin
Led Zeppelin
Hole
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Bauhaus
Robert Johnson
Prodigy
The Cure
Bob Marley & the Wailers
The Clash
BeauSoliel
Aimee Mann
Erasure
Cracker/Camper Van Beethoven
Blues Traveler
Tom Waits
The Pixies
Fugazi
Pink Floyd
The Doors
Wheatus
Hüsker Dü
The Velvet Underground
Siouxsie & the Banshees
Dead Kennedys
Echo & the Bunnymen
Black Flag
Fishbone
John Prine
Minor Threat
Government Issue
REM
Porno for Pyros
Shane MacGowan
The English Beat
Jimmy Buffett

So, (1) what are some of your favorites;
(2) how would you pigeonhole the artists I listed; and
(3) is any of the above "emo" music (and what is "emo" music)?

Typical emo...

Who am I, what do people think of me, am I liked, oh noes how can people not love my music, I can't stand them, I hate it, nobody understands me, leave me alone, I hate the world....

EDIT: Actually answering:

Personally I tend to have about 10 or so albums on my i-pod, the littlest one, and I switch every 3 months or so with new albums, generally taken from other people's collections either digitally or from CDs.

Right now, looking at i-Tunes I have:

Cut Chemist - The Audience is Listening
Wyclef Jean - The Carnival
Freestylers - A Different Story Vol. 1
Freakpower - Drive-Thru Booty
Fatboy Slim - Late Nights
Grant Lee Buffalo - Fuzzy
Jay-Z - Greatest Hits
David Bowie - Hunky Dory
CocoRosie - La Maison de Mon Reve
Nouvelle Vague - Late Nights
Fun Lovin' Criminals - Mimosa
Ali Farka Toure - Savane
UB40 - Signing off
The Hoosiers - The Trick to Life

I have a couple of dance tracks as well as Peter, Bjorn & John's - Young Folks. Looking at some of those, I'm obviously in a mid-90's nostalgia moment. UB40 may look a bizarre choice but it's their first album and someone said it wasn't half bad given the rest of their stuff.

Eclectic is probably the best word to describe what I like, I generally like albums or individual songs over bands. I tend to look at record labels to see any avenue of music I'd like to go down over artists themselves.

none of your list is emo really, modern emo seem to be basically skate/pop punk, with a punk-goth cross in dress.

Emo is dead. Even Panic At The Disco are staying away from that genre. I'm more of an indie rock person:

Nirvana
R.E.M
Crystal Castles
The Futureheads
Radiohead
Muse
We Are Scientists

Some of my favourite bands.

heh, I like a mix of rock and punk, though it is more modern punk. Sex pistols fans will probably disagree with me over its classification.

Blink 182
Sum 41
Hit the Lights
Panic! at the disco
Fall out boy
My Chems
Simple Plan
The Offspring
The Clash
The Jam
Sex Pistols
A friend played me some Nightwish earlier, and I loved that. Absolutely great.

Emo I would discribe as mostly based on the lyrics. Emo differs from Goth in that the music is often happy, but the lyrics are sad.

I prefer
1.Queen
1.Led Zeppelin
1.Rush
4.The Rolling Stones
5.Beethovan
6.Bach
7.Guns 'N Roses
8.Koji Kondo
9.Most Medievally music
As you can see, I like a mixture of Rock and Classical/Romantic with a little bit of video game music thrown in for good measure.

Dresden Dolls, of course. Not emo, but perhaps vaguely related - they made a video with Panic at the Disco once.

Listing everything I like would take a long time, last I counted I had over 100 artists on my iPod.

So I'll just go with my top five.

Spineshank
Nine Inch Nails
Daft Punk
Weird Al
and a three-way tie between Agalloch, Nightwish, and Shiro Sagisu.

Some of my favorites:
Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy?, Motorhead, Sonic Youth, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Swans, the Pixies, Hole, Babes In Toyland, Cathedral, Napalm Death, Carcass, Cradle of Filth, R.E.M., the Plasmatics, Hüsker Dü, Dead Kennedys, My Dying Bride, Death, Sebadoh, Dinosaur Jr., the Minutemen

Anyway, here are a list of some of my favorites in no particular order (bolded names I've seen live at least once):
Nirvana
Hüsker Dü
Hole*is incredibly jealous*
When did you see them?

(3) is any of the above "emo" music (and what is "emo" music)?The definition of 'emo' depends on who is using it. Initially it referred to a type of music called "emotional hardcore", which began in Washington D.C. Fugazi could be defined as emotional hardcore.
However, the more often used definition is to use 'emo' to mean a type of emotional punk that is generally watered down to be somewhat mainstream. Fall Out Boy is probably the best known example of the latter definition.

You're not listening to modern emo my friend. You're listening to Punk (be it grunge, hardcore punk, punk / gothic and the likes) and some Alternative. Your list has one emo band (Fugazi) but they have nothing to do with the modern emo sound. Fugazi were actually decent.

As for my tastes I listen to anything that doesn't aim to bucks. My favourite style is Metal (I am a big devotee of Black Metal) but I listen to a bunch of other stuff as well like Punk (all styles but basically Crust Punk, d-beat and Anarcho-Punk), Electro (Ambient, EBM, Electrogoth, Neo-Folk and Martial Industrial in particular), Classical, Ska, Folk and Rap (not the modern gangsta shit though).

For music? I prefer/like...


Clannad (Irish folk)
Medieval Babes (Medieval)
Manu Chao (Reggae/World)
Cat Power
Loituma (Finnish Folk Pop)
The Arcade Fire (Montreal rock)
Nickelback (rock n' roll)
The Cranberries (rock n' roll)
X-Japan (80's glam rock)
Rush (classic rock)
Rolling Stones (classic rock)
Enya (Easy listening)
Various anime songs/j-pop artists


I also listen to a lot of classical music.

My favorite artists are, in no particular order:

Matisyahu (Jewish reggae)
Pillar (rock & roll)
Breaking Benjamin (rock & roll)
Within Temptation (rock & roll)
Idan Raichel (Israeli/Ethiopian "world" music)

My tastes are in contemporary rock & roll (as far as I can tell, most of my favorite groups are active) and Jewish/Israeli music.

I have also bought music from the following groups/artists:
Daniel Freedman & Ben Klein (Jewish)
Dream Evil (metal)
Three Days Grace (rock & roll)
Hadag Nachash (Israeli)
Nickelback (rock & roll)
Paul Stanley (rock & roll)
Sonata Arctica (rock & roll)
Fort Minor (rap)
Manowar (rock & roll)

And two video game soundtrack pieces:
One Winged Angel (Final Fantasy VII)
Vortal Combat (Half-Life 2: Episode Two)

Emo is dead. Even Panic At The Disco are staying away from that genre. I'm more of an indie rock person:

Nirvana
R.E.M
Crystal Castles
The Futureheads
Radiohead
Muse
We Are Scientists

Some of my favourite bands.


Heh no music genre really dies, it just becomes unpopular.

I still listen to 50's rock 'n' roll, 60's soul, 70's reggea, 80's SKA(revival) 90's metal, and club(dance) music of all types, age and genres.

Nirvana

can Nirvana die now pleaze?

Dresden Dolls, of course. Not emo, but perhaps vaguely related - they made a video with Panic at the Disco once.

emo but leaning to a genre of its own

1) currently:

Ladytron (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kLKOXdPUuNc)
Le Tigre (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvNCPds26IY&feature=related)
Kavinsky (http://youtube.com/watch?v=QXoXMjUGHMg)
Fiona Apple (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8gLWTtlMwo4&feature=related)
Miss Kitten (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IAZnYhF3SKc&feature=related)
Big Black (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vSivVYwKwZc)
Roisin Murphy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=29AZ371JhAE&feature=related)

and songs of sunny days for instance:
Stardust (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3FG-NcKdF78&feature=related)
Modjo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HzpCcNdhy5w)

2) Metal would be a good overall word to use

3) Nirvana has been dragged kicking and screaming into the scene like it is with everything The Cure and The Doors are to some extent but I'd say you have avoided the disease

Emo as a culture are those girls that hang around town centers hugging people and >19 year old guys screwing <17 year old girls and as a music is a goth spin off that is basically pop punk at best

I mostly listen to grindcore, crust punk, hardcore, melodic hardcore, post-hardcore, metalcore, thrash, powerviolence and skramz. And lots of non-punk too.

Emo refers to two mostly unrelated styles of music. The first is a whiny offshoot of pop-punk with elements of melodic hardcore and indie rock. The other is frantic, spazzy hardcore that usually builds up to noisy climaxes.

I mostly listen to grindcore, crust punk, hardcore, melodic hardcore, post-hardcore, metalcore, thrash, powerviolence and skramz. And lots of non-punk too.


You have a very good taste if you leave metalcore out of it.;)



2) Metal would be a good overall word to use


For the music he listens to? No way :mp5:

<snipples>?

You're proto-punk/post progressive. You're in your early to late thirties (that's not hard to guess, you've seen Nirvana and Pink Floyd live, the last time that Pink Floyd toured in California where I believe you're from is 1994 (I think...I was there, too) and Kurt Cobain killed himself off in the early 90s as well.) There's a mix of 90s 'alternative' with a focus on the groups that defined that fringe, not quite underground but not quite mainstream, such as Siouxsie & the Banshees and Hüsker Dü, some big name classic punk rock, again focusing on the heady, such as The Dead Kennedys and Black Flag (leading me to believe that perhaps Bad Religion's omission was simply an oversight), some respectful classic rock, again focusing on the heady (Pink Floyd, The Doors), and a healthy sprinkle of 'influence' music, music that the artists themselves site and end up in their fans collections, Bob Marley (Legend, perhaps?), Robert Johnson. Add a dose of notables from some related genres with English Beat, Fishbone, BeauSoliel, Lyle Lovett, Aime Mann, again trumpeting the 'intellectual' qualities of your CD collection.

So, this is going to sound insulting, and I'm sorry and only offer as explanation that I insult everyones, including my own, music tastes. You are, I would guess, a record store bore. You discuss music, perhaps to the more engaged looking clerks whose only sin was to be wearing a CBGB or promotional t-shirt for a band you thought you were the only one in the neighborhood who listened to, as if you were giving a radio review of the album, perhaps dropping a list of influences evident on the album, maybe even mentioning a few of them that you have in your collection. Maybe you look for a chance to drop a name or two you've seen live that might get the clerk to look impressed or envious. You make a point to spend some time at the non-rock listening stations, too.

It's possible that you either tried or actually did work at a record store.

There is a decent chance that there is an old military jacket in your past (or perhaps still in your closet), maybe with a faded DK symbol etched in with a sharpie, or a Black Flag symbol. Maybe both. You probably have one or more of the following-a close shaved head, small earings, a well trimmed goatee, a simple but not visible (unless you want it to be) tattoo. These are the last vestiges of your freak flag, allowing you (at least in your mind) to 'pass' but you know in your heart you're still punk rock. When possible you still go to shows, but now you're the old guy in the back with his arms folded, the guy you wondered about when you were the young guy on the scene, where once you were the kid who didn't know why the band was so cool, you're now the one in the back with the combination delight at new audience and slight derision that they don't really know.

I probably could have sold you about 5 CDs every time you came in the store. Maybe three.

Was I close? I probably got a few things wrong, but I'm betting I nailed some. Sorry about the being snide thing, seven years at a record store made me a record store bore (different flavor) as well.

My favourite modern band has to be Radiohead, but I'm fond of many other modern alternative/indie rock bands (especially British ones), including

Beck
Blur
Coldplay
Manic Street Preachers
Oasis
Primal Scream
REM
Spiritualized
Super Furry Animals
Supergrass

I like some electronic/dance. Not the crappy Euro-pop-dance or pumpin tunes from Ibiza, more like

Basement Jaxx
Death In Vegas

And all sorts of classic pop and rock. I'm very fond of 60s psychedelic/garage rock.

Bob Dylan
David Bowie
Led Zeppelin
Madonna
Nick Drake
Pixies
Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Clash
Rolling Stones
The Smiths
The Velvet Underground

And a little bit of hip-hop/garage.

Eminem
Missy Elliott
The Streets

I like some electronic/dance. Not the crappy Euro-pop-dance or pumpin tunes from Ibiza, more like.

well the English dance scene affectively died in 2001 and the Southern European scene has come to reflect this (along with every nation that is affected by British tourism)

however you do get the odd jem (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vUSTbVXvFnI) but its almost totally house dominated these days

Most bands/people under Warp Records I like. I'm not sure how you categorise Squarepusher or Aphex Twin.

well the English dance scene affectively died in 2001 and the Southern European scene has come to reflect this (along with every nation that is affected by British tourism)

however you do get the odd jem (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vUSTbVXvFnI) but its almost totally house dominated these days

Yeah, most of the electronic I've got other than the two I mentioned is mid to late 90s big beat like Chemical Brothers and Fatboy Slim, a little bit of Underworld, some 80's stuff (Kraftwerk, New Order), drum n' bass (Roni Size), trip hop (Massive Attack, Tricky) and some Aphex Twin as well.

I'm really liking the modern dance-punk movement like LCD Soundsystem, Klaxons, The Rapture and CSS.

You're proto-punk/post progressive......<snip>

Ohh ohh do me next!

Fave Bands: (no particular order)

Pixes
I Jahman Levi
Janis Joplin
Burning Spear
The Doors
Slayer
Mammoth
Orange Goblin
Madness
Buddy Holly
John Lee Hooker
Buddy Guy

Bands I have seen live: (no particular order)

The Ramones
Slayer
Motorhead
Goldie Looking Chain
Madness
Manowar


Do me do meeeee!:D

What is emo? You ask?

Emo is the inclusion of too much eyeliner and tight pants into one's routine, and is thus the spiritual successor to 80s Hair Metal. Emo music however is not the same as the emo "attitude" that many have expressed.*

I do not want to go to far into this; I am not a true musical theorist.
...

Anyway. I don't think I can narrow my likes down to a single genre or even a group of genre's. I like what I like and what I like is...

- System of a Down (And by extension Serj Tankian)
- Disturbed
- Rammstein
- Tool
- Linkin Park (Last album sucked though)

Probably a few other bands which have fewer songs that I like, I'm a bit too distracted to make a good list now, I'm afraid.

*Please note that I have nothing against Hair Metal...well...actually I do. I just don't like many songs of that genre...except The Final Countdown.

I'm really liking the modern dance-punk movement like LCD Soundsystem, Klaxons, The Rapture and CSS.

as far away from happy hardcore as possible is my strategy ;)

*Please note that I have nothing against Hair Metal...well...actually I do. I just don't like many songs of that genre...except The Final Countdown.

:eek:

Queen are not Hair Metal. What are you saying? :confused:

Emo musically is very simplistic, with minimalist instrumentals, and vocals usually of a higher-pitched (though not falsetto) and generally nasal quality. Lyrically it tries to express emotional sadness, though ultimately falling short of that objective due to trite, archetypal lyrics.


Here are some of my favorite bands... what would you people say my musical tastes are (categorically of course?)

Sonata Arctica
Dream Theater
Disturbed
Black Sabbath
Korpiklaani
Finntroll
DragonForce
Pantera
Metallica
Slayer
Lordi
Candlemass
Bal-Sagoth
Iron Maiden
Cannibal Corpse
Burzum
Billy Joel
Savage Harmony
Opus Draconis

Burzum and Candlemass are good bands ;)

I like folk music.

*is too lazy to add any worthyness to thread*

@galemir: I would call that generally metal

I'm rather bad at genrefying music, I listen to genres that I would call generally either "ambient" or "dance", sometimes "rock" or "pop". Some people might be able to devide it into a gazillion subgenres, like new age, triphop, ambient, post-rock, progressive rock, folk, medieval, darkwave, epic, trance, techno, drum'n'bass, experimental, idm, edm, ebm, house, psytrance, psychill, easy listening, synthpop, neoclassic, chillout, lounge, electronic, electronica, soundtrack, downtempo, etc, but I don't really know what is what (yes, I know that techno and lounge sound very different, but where, for example, lies the boundary between lounge and ambient?)
Some (hopefully not too unknown) artists I like are Mike Oldfield, Delerium, Era, Qntal, Astral Projection, Autechre, Thievery Corporation, ...

At one stage it bothered me that I couldn't "label" my music...not anymore.

Thus, I also have no idea what emo is or sounds like :D

I've been listening to Gaelic Storm lately, in preparation for their appearance at the Michigan Irish Music Fest. they're really, really good! Trad sound with modern/traditional lyrics. I also like:

Tempest
Mediaeval Baebes
Wicked Sdtk
Hairspray (original Broadway cast)
Jim Byrnes (yes, the guy from highlander. He does some kick ass blues)
Dave Brubeck
Charlie Parker
Benny Goodman
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy (saw them live on their first tour - hooked instantly)
Brian Setzer Orchestra
Beach Boys
Beatles
Any early rock and roll - esp the rockabilly sound
Achinoam Nini (Noa in the US) - Israeli pop, mostly in Hebrew

Lots of other stuff, just can't remember it right now.

Dresden Dolls, of course. Not emo, but perhaps vaguely related - they made a video with Panic at the Disco once.

Good choice. I wouldn't consider them Emo --- Punk Cabaret is probably more accurate.

I also listen to:

Machinae Supremacy (SID Metal)
The Unextraordinary Gentlemen (Victorian Synth-Punk)
Rasputina (Cello Rock, probably)
Abney Park (Steampunk Industrial/Rock)
Vernian Process (Steampunk something or other)
Secret Society (Big Band Jazz)

And a lot of other bits and pieces, many of which I'm unsure how to classify.

So, (1) what are some of your favorites;
(2) how would you pigeonhole the artists I listed; and
(3) is any of the above "emo" music (and what is "emo" music)?
1) I choose my music by the songs, not the artist/band. so my playlist includes things from Twisted sister, to Leslie Fish.
2) I would 'pigeonhole' the artists by the general type of music they play
3) I have no idea what is 'Emo'...

3) I have no idea what is 'Emo'...

It's a very sad tale actualy. His master, Rodd Hull, fell of his roof and died.:(

Some that were mentioned and some that were not:

Jazz, Zydeco, Blues, Cajun
Billie Holliday
John Coltrane
Professor Longhair
Thelonius Monk
Ella
Miles Davis
....

:eek:

Queen are not Hair Metal. What are you saying? :confused:

Wha?

Dude, The Final Countdown is a legendary song made by Europe, a Hair Metal band.

Where'd you find a connection between Queen and Hair Metal my friend?

Some of my favorites:
Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy?, Motorhead, Sonic Youth, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Swans, the Pixies, Hole, Babes In Toyland, Cathedral, Napalm Death, Carcass, Cradle of Filth, R.E.M., the Plasmatics, Hüsker Dü, Dead Kennedys, My Dying Bride, Death, Sebadoh, Dinosaur Jr., the Minutemen

You have some excellent taste. ;)

Anyway, here are a list of some of my favorites in no particular order (bolded names I've seen live at least once):
Nirvana
Hüsker Dü
Hole
*is incredibly jealous*
When did you see them?

I'd be lying if I didn't admit that basking in jealousy was not an ulterior motive for this thread. :D

IIRC (and my memory is notoriously unreliable about things like this), I saw Nirvana in Seattle in about 1989 and in Spokane in about 1994.

I saw Hüsker Dü in Portland in about 1987.

I saw Hole in Seattle in the mid-90s (96?). I saw Courtney Love in a small venue here in San Diego a couple of years ago.

*basks in jealousy some more*

The definition of 'emo' depends on who is using it. Initially it referred to a type of music called "emotional hardcore", which began in Washington D.C. Fugazi could be defined as emotional hardcore.
However, the more often used definition is to use 'emo' to mean a type of emotional punk that is generally watered down to be somewhat mainstream. Fall Out Boy is probably the best known example of the latter definition.

Right. So, it appears I generally do not listen to "emo." I do like Fugazi, but they are more of a precursor. My question was generated largely by my ignorance of what "emo" is, having learned to my suprise that Fugazi was emo-ish, and being told in another thread that Nirvana was "proto-emo." Also, I think of emo and goth as overlapping to some degree and I like some goth-type music.

Ohh ohh do me next!

Fave Bands: (no particular order)

Pixes
I Jahman Levi
Janis Joplin
Burning Spear
The Doors
Slayer
Mammoth
Orange Goblin
Madness
Buddy Holly
John Lee Hooker
Buddy Guy

Bands I have seen live: (no particular order)

The Ramones
Slayer
Motorhead
Goldie Looking Chain
Madness
Manowar


Do me do meeeee!:D
Well before you get too excited you should wait until Cat Tribes comes by and checks to see if I was right or not.

You're proto-punk/post progressive. You're in your early to late thirties (that's not hard to guess, you've seen Nirvana and Pink Floyd live, the last time that Pink Floyd toured in California where I believe you're from is 1994 (I think...I was there, too) and Kurt Cobain killed himself off in the early 90s as well.) There's a mix of 90s 'alternative' with a focus on the groups that defined that fringe, not quite underground but not quite mainstream, such as Siouxsie & the Banshees and Hüsker Dü, some big name classic punk rock, again focusing on the heady, such as The Dead Kennedys and Black Flag (leading me to believe that perhaps Bad Religion's omission was simply an oversight), some respectful classic rock, again focusing on the heady (Pink Floyd, The Doors), and a healthy sprinkle of 'influence' music, music that the artists themselves site and end up in their fans collections, Bob Marley (Legend, perhaps?), Robert Johnson. Add a dose of notables from some related genres with English Beat, Fishbone, BeauSoliel, Lyle Lovett, Aime Mann, again trumpeting the 'intellectual' qualities of your CD collection.

So, this is going to sound insulting, and I'm sorry and only offer as explanation that I insult everyones, including my own, music tastes. You are, I would guess, a record store bore. You discuss music, perhaps to the more engaged looking clerks whose only sin was to be wearing a CBGB or promotional t-shirt for a band you thought you were the only one in the neighborhood who listened to, as if you were giving a radio review of the album, perhaps dropping a list of influences evident on the album, maybe even mentioning a few of them that you have in your collection. Maybe you look for a chance to drop a name or two you've seen live that might get the clerk to look impressed or envious. You make a point to spend some time at the non-rock listening stations, too.

It's possible that you either tried or actually did work at a record store.

There is a decent chance that there is an old military jacket in your past (or perhaps still in your closet), maybe with a faded DK symbol etched in with a sharpie, or a Black Flag symbol. Maybe both. You probably have one or more of the following-a close shaved head, small earings, a well trimmed goatee, a simple but not visible (unless you want it to be) tattoo. These are the last vestiges of your freak flag, allowing you (at least in your mind) to 'pass' but you know in your heart you're still punk rock. When possible you still go to shows, but now you're the old guy in the back with his arms folded, the guy you wondered about when you were the young guy on the scene, where once you were the kid who didn't know why the band was so cool, you're now the one in the back with the combination delight at new audience and slight derision that they don't really know.

I probably could have sold you about 5 CDs every time you came in the store. Maybe three.

Was I close? I probably got a few things wrong, but I'm betting I nailed some. Sorry about the being snide thing, seven years at a record store made me a record store bore (different flavor) as well.

:D I'm not the least bit insulted. Instead, I am amused, intrigued, and even somewhat enlightened by your analysis. A few comments on how you did.

1. You have my age pegged correctly as well as, I think, a general overview of my musical tastes.

2. Although you didn't use the term, I admit some of my "intellectual" favorites are a bit pretentious. But they are genuine loves, nonetheless.

3. For whatever reason, I've never been found of Bad Religion, so it wasn't an oversight.

4. I don't believe I am, or have ever been, a record store bore. With the exception of here in NSG, I don't tend to brag about -- or even discuss -- my musical tastes or concerts. I don't usually go to, let alone hang out in, record stores. I don't think I have ever bought music on the recommendation of a store clerk or even asked for assistance, let alone discussion. I'm not offended at this characterization. I just don't think it is accurate.

5. You are right about my "punk heart" and "freak flag." I have worn a military jacket -- though not since high school/early college. I don't have a shaved head, earrings, or facial hair. BUT I do have tattoos and a nose ring. (The later I am starting to feel a bit old for, but it is something of a badge of honor. ;))

6. I'm definitely becoming an "old guy in the back." Youth is wasted on the young. :p

EDIT: I just noticed -- my appreciation of Bob Marley may be shallow, but not quite as shallow as you imply. In addition to Legend and Natural Mystic, I have a 3-disc best of (Soul Rebel, Duppy Conqueror, Mellow Mood), Exodus, Uprising, and Natty Dread. So there.:p:D

I hate listing my music tastes because you get immediately judged from it, also I'm in to way too much shit. I can tell you though that any music which is labelled as emo, almost always sucks (in my, and many others, opinion).

The idea of this thread is (1) post some of your favorite bands/music, (2) categorize bands that have been listed, and (3) tell me what the hell "emo" is.

This thread swirls from a discussion in another thread I was in that was classifying music I like as "emo." I take no offense at that, but am unclear what it signifies.

I also am wishing to build on prior threads in which I have seen vicious lobbying over what qualifies as punk, alternative, etc. I think many of the bands I listen to defy easy categorization.

Anyway, here are a list of some of my favorites in no particular order (bolded names I've seen live at least once):

<snip long list>

So, (1) what are some of your favorites;
(2) how would you pigeonhole the artists I listed; and
(3) is any of the above "emo" music (and what is "emo" music)?

AC/DC
Iron Maiden
Black Sabbath
Judas Priest
Triumph
Fastway
Lucifer's Friend
Sir Lord Baltimore
Pat Travers

These are most of the bands I can think of that I like. BTW, I want to be analyzed too.

Rage Against the Machine, Rammstein, Eisbrecher, Korpiklaani, Turisas, Led Zepplin, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Green Day, Linkin Park (I'm ashamed to admit), Flogging Molly.

Nothing but the best:D

Time spent wondering what emo is, is time that could be spent listening to metal instead.

I like any music but my favourites are:
Linkin park (Theres no shame to it), Nine Inch Nails, Daft Punk, Fort Minor and the Hoosiers

I've been listening to Gaelic Storm lately, in preparation for their appearance at the Michigan Irish Music Fest. they're really, really good! Trad sound with modern/traditional lyrics. I also like:

Tempest
Mediaeval Baebes
Wicked Sdtk
Hairspray (original Broadway cast)
Jim Byrnes (yes, the guy from highlander. He does some kick ass blues)
Dave Brubeck
Charlie Parker
Benny Goodman
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy (saw them live on their first tour - hooked instantly)
Brian Setzer Orchestra
Beach Boys
Beatles
Any early rock and roll - esp the rockabilly sound
Achinoam Nini (Noa in the US) - Israeli pop, mostly in Hebrew

Lots of other stuff, just can't remember it right now.

Hey, someone with good taste in music.

You might want to try one of the bands I listen to.

If you like that Irish stuff, try Clannad.

If you like Medieval Baebes, try Alan Stivell.

If you like folksy music, you might also like Loituma, and instead of being in Gaelic, they sing in Finnish.

In no particular order...
Candlemass
In This Moment
Flyleaf
Lynard Skynard
Queen
Led Zeppelin
Korn
Ewa Sonnet
Rammstein
Eisbrecher
Gackt Camui
Kent
Ace of Base
David Bowie
Metallica
Linkin Park
Rob Zombie/White Zombie
Atreyu (knida iffy about some of their music but they put on one hell of a show live)
Hellyeah
Killswitch Engage
The Agonist
Queensryche
Europe
Skorpions
Capercaillie
t.A.T.u.
Dead Can Dance
Depeche Mode
Falco
Disturbed
Evanescence
Dobet Gnahore
Godsmack
Nena
P.O.D.
Ra
Seether
Origa
The Doors
Avenge Sevenfold

heh, I like a mix of rock and punk, though it is more modern punk. Sex pistols fans will probably disagree with me over its classification.

Blink 182
Sum 41
Hit the Lights
Panic! at the disco
Fall out boy
My Chems
Simple Plan


Calling any of the above bands punk is an abomination.


Bands I like....
To name but a few:
-Iron Maiden
-Naglfar
-Death
-Nile
-Behemoth
-King Diamond
-Mercyful Fate
-Queensryche
-Cannibal Corpse
-Morbid Angel
-Carcass
-Slayer
-Iced Earth
-Megadeth
-Testament
-Kreator
-Overkill
-Metallica
-Celtic Frost
-Rotting Christ
-Chthonic
-Emperor
-Dream Evil
-Nevermore
-Obituary
-Opeth
-Strapping Young Lad
-Wintersun
-Amon Amarth
-Hypocrisy
-Mayhem
-Dio
-Watain
-Black Sabbath
-Pentagram
-Motorhead
-Ozzy
-3 Inches of Blood
-Gamma Ray
-Nocturnal Rites
-Kamelot
-Borknagar
-Deicide
-Children of Bodom
-Devin Townsend
-Napalm Death
-Goatwhore
-Venom
-White Zombie
-WASP
-The Scorpions
-The Sex Pistols
-Discharge
-The Ramones
-Talking Heads
-English Dogs
-The Clash
-Dead Kennedys
-Drop Kick Murphy's
-Pink Floyd
-Alice Cooper
-Alice in Chains
-Rage Against the Machine
-Soundgarden


Whew thats a long list.

Calling any of the above bands punk is an abomination.


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Whew thats a long list.

not that much longer than mine...

The basis of my collection would be post-rock (Explosions in the Sky, Mogwai), math-rock (Youthmovies, Fight Fire With Water), post/prog-metal (Pelican, Isis, Tool), some screamo (CTTS, Envy), and your more basic metal and punk genres.

Sweet, I did slightly better than I thought I might.
:D I'm not the least bit insulted. Instead, I am amused, intrigued, and even somewhat enlightened by your analysis. A few comments on how you did.

1. You have my age pegged correctly as well as, I think, a general overview of my musical tastes.
I forgot to add my 'Pandora' style analysis of how I would pick your new favorite bands. Or at least bands that you'd return on my day off...since I'm feeling a bit of confidence I'll give you the cliff notes version, since I haven't worked at a record store for a while now. It would seem that for the most part you prefer a rawer sound, not caustic, but certainly not over produced. While you would shy away from a packaged band as being too sterile, too fake, you prefer your bands to have a 'story' to them. Now, it might be countered that Pink Floyd is on the list and is perhaps the most overproduced band on the planet, by design. But they have massive story to them, and that makes up for it, so it's a balancing act. If you listen to something 'mainstream' it has to be credentialed-I use credentialed instead of 'cred' because I want to be specific about that word. It might be a test of time (Doors, Floyd), a proper collection of influences (Waits), or influence themselves (Marley). This is how I would sell you a CD.

Why on earth I would bother since I didn't get commission is a whole other question...just to pass the day and affect that snotty 'better than you' attitude so common in a record store employee. We were and are sad, sad little people...

2. Although you didn't use the term, I admit some of my "intellectual" favorites are a bit pretentious. But they are genuine loves, nonetheless.
Well, two things-I didn't want to be too mean, and if I get around to listing what I like...whole new level of 'up my own ass'...

3. For whatever reason, I've never been found of Bad Religion, so it wasn't an oversight.
There was better than even odds, so I thought I'd go for it.

4. I don't believe I am, or have ever been, a record store bore. With the exception of here in NSG, I don't tend to brag about -- or even discuss -- my musical tastes or concerts. I don't usually go to, let alone hang out in, record stores. I don't think I have ever bought music on the recommendation of a store clerk or even asked for assistance, let alone discussion. I'm not offended at this characterization. I just don't think it is accurate.
This was 50/50, you either were, or you were the single syllable type that quietly shunned the roaming employees as either in no way knowledgeable enough to help you or as unwelcome interruptions in your very personal search for music. Or somewhere in between. People who listen to the music on your list fell into those two basic types.

5. You are right about my "punk heart" and "freak flag." I have worn a military jacket -- though not since high school/early college. I don't have a shaved head, earrings, or facial hair. BUT I do have tattoos and a nose ring. (The later I am starting to feel a bit old for, but it is something of a badge of honor. ;))
Fuck, I forgot the nose ring!

6. I'm definitely becoming an "old guy in the back." Youth is wasted on the young. :p
It's alright, I started standing in the back with folded arms early. Part of that affectation listed above. The cocky confidence that comes with a backstage pass.

EDIT: I just noticed -- my appreciation of Bob Marley may be shallow, but not quite as shallow as you imply. In addition to Legend and Natural Mystic, I have a 3-disc best of (Soul Rebel, Duppy Conqueror, Mellow Mood), Exodus, Uprising, and Natty Dread. So there.:p:D
Heh...okay there I was just being mean. The other option was that you had purposefully obscure Marley to avoid the Legend stigma, like early ska recordings. But that would have incriminated me.

...

you are hereby required to check out against me! particularly 'reinventing axl rose' era stuff, though the commercial success of the newer stuff is alright music too.

...i feel like i haven't made that demand of anyone recently

Jane's Addiction

Blues Traveler

Fishbone


Also - i've seen quite a few, but Fishbone was the best at Lollapalooza '93 in Vancouver.

In small amounts i can handle almost anything as long as it isn't quickly repeated.
I prefer not to listen to popular country, popular rap, and popular hip-hop, since most examples from those have been mind-numbing and insipid.
And, of course, meeting the criterion just above.

Calling any of the above bands punk is an abomination.

ponk can still be punk

I listen mostly to soft rock, R&B and oldies.

Lifehouse is my favorite band, Bob Seger, Switchfoot, David Grey, Goo Goo Dolls, Howie Day, Savage Garden, U2, Snow Patrol, Tegan and Sara, Louis Armstrong, The Temptations, The All-American Rejects, etc...

And emo is what girls who usually very easy to sleep with listen to.

Bob Dylan, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Rainer Maria, Sahara Hotnights, Controller Controller, Annet Louisan, Suzzies Orkester, Moenia, Nico, Velvet Underground, Johnny Cash, Edith Piaf, Shakira, Los Abandoned, Amy Winehouse, Interpol, the Killers, Bob Marley, Wyclef Jean

Some of my favorites.. Shannon Campbell (http://www.shannoncampbell.info) (listening to it non-stop the past few days), Catch 22, Jump Little Children, Something Corporate (a band I've really been revisiting), Nickel Creek, Paul Simon, The Beatles, Barenaked Ladies, John Mayer, Jimmy Buffett, and Willie Nelson. Plus a few bands that would make it totally clear where my hometown is. Oh, and random Irish music. (Think more The Chieftains than Flogging Molly, though I like both.) This list will change tomorrow, I guarantee.

I'd pigeon-hole you, but The Cat Tribe did an awesome job already.

And emo. Oh dear Lord. The oldest "emo" I have is early Jimmy Eat World (Clarity, Static Prevails), which is closest in sound to "post-rock" (what a bullshit name for a genre!). It's a more pop-ish off-shoot of punk. One of the general rules it seems is none of the lead singers can't be tenor 2 or lower. (Prove me wrong, please. I like the low end.) I think that it's not truly a genre by style, but more by who they advertise to and the subject of the lyrics. It tends to be more emotional (who'd have guessed). Honestly, it SOUNDS like post-rock to me. It's kind of an easy-to-swallow punk for those who feel above listening to Sum 41. Juliana Theory, Something Corporate, Dashboard Confessional, Jimmy Eat World.

My whole issue with a lot of the naming of genres (to the point of the ridiculous- you should hear some people classify their music) is it starts to become only a scene thing instead of a sound thing. If you're basing your music on the scene, then you're pretty much a boring stereotype. I get using the sound-alike game to find new music (if you like the sound of X, then you may like Y which is like X but mixed with Z and a little more pop), but there are so many people it seems who are dedicated to a scene instead of musical talent. Gah. /rant

Ohh ohh do me next!

Fave Bands: (no particular order)

Pixes
I Jahman Levi
Janis Joplin
Burning Spear
The Doors
Slayer
Mammoth
Orange Goblin
Madness
Buddy Holly
John Lee Hooker
Buddy Guy

Bands I have seen live: (no particular order)

The Ramones
Slayer
Motorhead
Goldie Looking Chain
Madness
Manowar


Do me do meeeee!:D
Okay, what the heck. I don't have as much to go on and I can't really guess your age, which helps a bit because what people listen to at what stage in their lives helps me a bit in determining things. If I had to guess it would be mid to late twenties, putting you just post college or at the end of you college life. Your list is a little too precocious for me to assume you skipped college, but it's possible.

I don't have any cool sounding terms like taking established genres and putting words like 'proto' or 'post' in front of it, though I suspect you might be a non-repentent recovering butt rocker. Instead of denying owning a Ratt album you might insist that 'Whatever, they were cool,' in an apologetic non-apology. It doesn't matter if that band is Ratt, W.A.S.P., Quiet Riot...it's probably not Poison or any 'pretty' band, except maybe Twisted Sister.

If I had to come up with a term, it would be relentless scenster. You'd bill it as ecclectic, but truth be told your CD collection shares about 80% in common with others of your type, much like the kid who slides his cup across the soda machine to get a random sampling of all the sodas ends up with roughly the same soda as any other kid who did that. It's not really comparable to the kid who carefully mixes a soda formula that he painstakingly concocted. It might be gunshyness after choosing such a cheese ball genre early on, rather than be ashamed of it you just decided to embrace the cheese across the spectrum.

Like Cat-Tribes you've acquired a collection of 'respectables.' Like skimming the surface of each you sort of pick the vanilla of each flavor-all easy to defend. How can you not, on some level, like Buddy Holly or John Lee Hooker? Your flavor comes in the sprinkles, that you went and saw Manowar live says a lot. Such a concert is an event as much as it is a desire to actually see the band. You fall just on the happy side of appreciating them ironically in that you'll admit that they are a little cheesy, but "come on, they rock." While I'm still being snide, of the two kinds of people that would go to that show (the ironic ones and you), you'd be more fun to go with because you'd actually let yourself enjoy it without pretending that you're above it at the same time.

Which is not to say that you are entirely devoid of depth, just that it's a snorkelers depth, not a SCUBA divers depth. Every once in a while you get a good dive but then you have to come up for air and tell everyone how cool it was.

You might also be prone to 'I liked them before they were cool' syndrome.The more people at your party the less distinct it makes you, but you don't really come up with anything that isn't too far below the surface, so you're always one or two articles ahead of the Johnny Come Latelies.

I wouldn't sell you CDs because the racks and listening stations would do that for me. At best I'd help you find that band that you think you discovered but is really just benefiting from a push the distributer orchestrated.

Once again, sorry for the snideness. It is so thoroughly cultivated that I'm the same way about my own music tastes.

I don't think I nailed it 100%, rather I got close enought to the mark to make adjustments.

*snip*.

If it helps, I'd put Peeps in his late 40's/early 50's though probably the former - I'm quite sure he's not late 20's though he'd be flattered to hear it : )

If it helps, I'd put Peeps in his late 40's/early 50's though probably the former - I'm quite sure he's not late 20's though he'd be flattered to hear it : )

That would certainly change a great deal of my assessment. Screw it, I'll stand by it and let him be flattered until I'm corrected by the man himself.

The idea of this thread is (1) post some of your favorite bands/music, (2) categorize bands that have been listed, and (3) tell me what the hell "emo" is.

This thread swirls from a discussion in another thread I was in that was classifying music I like as "emo." I take no offense at that, but am unclear what it signifies.

I also am wishing to build on prior threads in which I have seen vicious lobbying over what qualifies as punk, alternative, etc. I think many of the bands I listen to defy easy categorization.

Anyway, here are a list of some of my favorites in no particular order (bolded names I've seen live at least once):
Nirvana
Jane's Addiction
The Pogues
The Grateful Dead
Rage Against the Machine
Liz Phair
Courtney Love
Social Distortion
Lyle Lovett
George Gershwin
Led Zeppelin
Hole
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Bauhaus
Robert Johnson
Prodigy
The Cure
Bob Marley & the Wailers
The Clash
BeauSoliel
Aimee Mann
Erasure
Cracker/Camper Van Beethoven
Blues Traveler
Tom Waits
The Pixies
Fugazi
Pink Floyd
The Doors
Wheatus
Hüsker Dü
The Velvet Underground
Siouxsie & the Banshees
Dead Kennedys
Echo & the Bunnymen
Black Flag
Fishbone
John Prine
Minor Threat
Government Issue
REM
Porno for Pyros
Shane MacGowan
The English Beat
Jimmy Buffett

So, (1) what are some of your favorites;
(2) how would you pigeonhole the artists I listed; and
(3) is any of the above "emo" music (and what is "emo" music)?

1. Some of my favorites:

Falkenbach (Black/Viking metal)
Ensiferum (Viking metal/Folk metal)
Darkthrone (Black Metal)
Immortal (Black Metal)
Nile (death metal)
Windir (black/folk metal)
Korpiklaani (folk metal)
Wolfmother (rock)
The Allman Brothers Band (Southern Rock/blues-ish)
Einherjer (viking metal)
Bathory (black/viking metal)
Kampfar (viking metal)
Marduk (black metal)
Agalloch (folkish/atmospheric/black metal [really unique band])
Gorgoroth (Black metal)
Blind Guardian (power metal)
Hammerfall (power metal)
Naglfar (black metal)
Wyrd (black metal)
Amon Amarth (melodic death metal)

I also love a ton of classic rock, like Tom Petty, Eric Clapton, Jefferson Airplane, and tons more.

2. I don't know a lot of the bands on your list. But from the ones I recognize you seem to be a radio music lover, with a few odd ones thrown in.

3. What is Emo? Crappy.

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Bands I've seen live:

Dimmu Borgir
Develdriver
Katatonia?kataclysm? (whoever toured with Dimmu in 07)
Nile (and opening bands of 07)
tons of local bands
Live (rock band, saw them when i was 6 with my parents)
Dark Funeral
Naglfar
Loverboy (saw them at a carnival or something)
and more local bands
Daath

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Awesome responses Cannot think of a name! If you have time I'd love it if you analyzed my music!

If CToaN wants to analyze my list, that'd be cool, but if he doesn't want to that's fine, too.

You have some excellent taste. ;)Why thank you.
Admittedly, I downplayed some of my more metal leanings in part due to the suggestions in the OP, but I do love the bands I mentioned.

I'd be lying if I didn't admit that basking in jealousy was not an ulterior motive for this thread. :DBastard. :p

IIRC (and my memory is notoriously unreliable about things like this), I saw Nirvana in Seattle in about 1989 and in Spokane in about 1994.How cool. You saw them in '89? Were they opening for someone else? If not, how come you saw them?

I saw Hüsker Dü in Portland in about 1987.Ah, the later period.

I saw Hole in Seattle in the mid-90s (96?). I saw Courtney Love in a small venue here in San Diego a couple of years ago.

*basks in jealousy some more*Has Courtney released her second solo album yet?

Right. So, it appears I generally do not listen to "emo." I do like Fugazi, but they are more of a precursor. My question was generated largely by my ignorance of what "emo" is, having learned to my suprise that Fugazi was emo-ish, and being told in another thread that Nirvana was "proto-emo." Also, I think of emo and goth as overlapping to some degree and I like some goth-type music.In general, no, you don't seem to listen to emo.
I suppose emo and goth could be considered to be overlapping in some ways, but not to a significant degree.

Lucifer's Friend
Sir Lord Baltimore I'm sure I asked you this before, and I apologize if you answered and I didn't notice, but were you able to find these bands on CD or did you download their music?

Good choice. I wouldn't consider them Emo --- Punk Cabaret is probably more accurate.
Obviously. But last time I mentioned that term it sparked a conversation probably 5-10 posts long about what the hell I mean.

Anyways, Amanda said she didn't think the term emo should mean anything bad. As far as she's concerned, when she gets thrown into the whole pot she doesn't mind, and she reckons that back when she was younger, she would have qualified for "emo" herself.

So yeah, it's obviously not emo music and the audiences aren't the same as for proper emo bands. But let the Grand Lady herself do the talking...
http://dresdendollsdiary.blogspot.com/2008/01/us-tour-days-45678910-and-eleven.html
some journalist read my blog about going out barefoot in the snow and wrote a preview of the show calling me crazy.
i kind of like being called crazy, it's sort of romantic. but i really don't feel crazy. i feel pretty sane.
i think a lot of people think that i'm crazy because of the lyrics, the music, the image. that bugs me.
my theory, and we were discussing this in the bus last night. there are four kinds of music:

1. negative negative music.
2. positive negative music.
3. negative positive music.
4. positive positive music.

the first adjective describes the lyrical and musical content of the band (ie: what kind of music is this?)
the second adjective describes the overall vibe of the band and the quality of performative connection (ie what kind of people are these?).

we tried to come up with perfect examples of each and an overarching phrase to encapsulate:

1. negative negative music = "we are sad the world sucks and fuck you too you bloody cunts" = sex pistols, gg allin
2. positive negative music = "we are sad the world sucks but don't you feel the same way and let's all bond together in mass sorrow and anger" = rage against the machine, the smiths, nine inch nails
3. negative positive music = "let's all dance and sing and be happy but don't fuckin' bother me you bloody **** i'm a rock star" = any bitchy pop band out there (you name it, i ain't gonna take the heat)
4. positive positive music = "yay! we love happy music and everythings great and we love you too" = polyphonic spree, yanni

dave argued that the dresden dolls fall into the "positive negative" category. i think we straddle that line between positive negative and positive positive. depends on the song. i mean, ALL the songs aren't about pain.
o god. no, wait. maybe they are. well, fuck it.

And emo. Oh dear Lord. The oldest "emo" I have is early Jimmy Eat World (Clarity, Static Prevails), which is closest in sound to "post-rock" (what a bullshit name for a genre!). It's a more pop-ish off-shoot of punk. One of the general rules it seems is none of the lead singers can't be tenor 2 or lower. (Prove me wrong, please. I like the low end.) I think that it's not truly a genre by style, but more by who they advertise to and the subject of the lyrics. It tends to be more emotional (who'd have guessed). Honestly, it SOUNDS like post-rock to me. It's kind of an easy-to-swallow punk for those who feel above listening to Sum 41. Juliana Theory, Something Corporate, Dashboard Confessional, Jimmy Eat World.
So you're trying to say emo = post-rock?

What. The. Fuck? :confused:

Please listen to some post-rock (i.e. Explosions in the Sky, Tortoise, GY!BE, A Silver Mt Zion...or Slint, Stereolab, Laika etc. as predecessors), then try making the comparison again.

I've never been a particular fan of Jimmy Eat World, but I checked out some samples of Static Prevails and Clarity after reading your post. It's not bad. But it's most certainly not post-rock.

My Favorites:

Cannibal Corpse
Children of Bodom
Down (I often won't want to listen to them however)
Hatebreed
Lamb of God (including their Burn the Priest stuff)
Megadeth
Metallica
Mindless Self Indulgence (I only really like them if a good subwoofer is available)
Pantera
Rage Against the Machine
Sepultura (I don't really like their early death metal stuff...)
Slayer
Slipknot

My definition of Emo:
Any music you dislike. In all probability, this isn't the most wrong definition of emo in this thread so far.

none of your list is emo really, modern emo seem to be basically skate/pop punk, with a punk-goth cross in dress.

Makes sense I suppose. I remember one goth club after another dying as the skaters in baggy blue jeans started showing up claiming it was Goth to be perky.

No wonder everyone hates them.

Bands I like

Geno Washington and the Ram Jam Band
Jimmy James and Vagabonds
The Alan Bown Set
The Troggs
Switchfoot
Hayseed Dixie
Waterson:Carthy
Eliza Carthy and the Ratcatchers
The Poozies
Spiers and Boden
Bellowhead
Steeleye Span
The Rolling Stones
Delirious
Witches of Elswick
Dr Faustus
Big and Rich

My definition of Emo:
Any music you dislike. In all probability, this isn't the most wrong definition of emo in this thread so far.
*considers*

*sigs!*

:D

I'm sure I asked you this before, and I apologize if you answered and I didn't notice, but were you able to find these bands on CD or did you download their music?

I downloaded Lucifer's Friend, and I've listened to Sir Lord on last.FM. However, both their debuts (Lucifer's Friend and Kingdom Come, widely considered their best work) can be found on CD.

Let's see....

Reel Big Fish, Five Iron Frenzy, Mustard Plug, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, the Aquabats, Dead Kennedys, the Ramones, the Clash, the Toasters, the Specials, Madness, Black Flag, the Skatalites, Bad Brains, the Misfits, Operation Ivy, Pink Floyd, Skankin' Pickle, the Pietasters, Rage Against the Machine, the Suicide Machines, Bad Manners, Desmond Dekker, the Selecter, the English Beat, Bob Marley (and the Wailers), Peter Tosh, Devo, Catch 22, Streetlight Manifesto, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Sublime, Cake, the Dead Boys, the Cramps, the Phenomenauts, Blue Meanies, Toots and the Maytals, Hepcat, the Hippos, Suburban Legends, Less Than Jake, Ska-P, RX Bandits, the Killing Moon, MU330, Voodoo Glow Skulls, Cherry Poppin' Daddies, I Voted For Kodos, the Arrogant Sons of a Bitches, the Flaming Tsunamis, System of a Down, Tool, Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra, Nirvana, the Foo Fighters, Mindless Self Indulgence, Motion City Soundtrack, the Mad Caddies, Husker Du, Minor Threat, SSD, DYS


That's, uh, the short list.

Wha?

Dude, The Final Countdown is a legendary song made by Europe, a Hair Metal band.

Where'd you find a connection between Queen and Hair Metal my friend?

Whoops :p

My mistake. Still, I do not consider Europe Hair Metal (I consider them Hard Rock) but anyway.

So you're trying to say emo = post-rock?

I said it's closest in sound to post-rock. Bluegrass is closest in sound to traditional country, but they're not the same. If you can tell me how the hell to differentiate the sound of post-rock and any other damn genre, tell me, because it seems like the newest hipster trend to my ears instead of an actual new sound. And, so far, all these groups aren't BAD, but they can be classified with genre labels that were in existence before post-rock. It's not the "genre" I dislike but the pretension that seems to go with it.

Let's see....

Reel Big Fish, Five Iron Frenzy, Mustard Plug, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, the Aquabats, Dead Kennedys, the Ramones, the Clash, the Toasters, the Specials, Madness, Black Flag, the Skatalites, Bad Brains, the Misfits, Operation Ivy, Pink Floyd, Skankin' Pickle, the Pietasters, Rage Against the Machine, the Suicide Machines, Bad Manners, Desmond Dekker, the Selecter, the English Beat, Bob Marley (and the Wailers), Peter Tosh, Devo, Catch 22, Streetlight Manifesto, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Sublime, Cake, the Dead Boys, the Cramps, the Phenomenauts, Blue Meanies, Toots and the Maytals, Hepcat, the Hippos, Suburban Legends, Less Than Jake, Ska-P, RX Bandits, the Killing Moon, MU330, Voodoo Glow Skulls, Cherry Poppin' Daddies, I Voted For Kodos, the Arrogant Sons of a Bitches, the Flaming Tsunamis, System of a Down, Tool, Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra, Nirvana, the Foo Fighters, Mindless Self Indulgence, Motion City Soundtrack, the Mad Caddies, Husker Du, Minor Threat, SSD, DYS


That's, uh, the short list.

There's too much ska in that for me to not tell you that you are obviously my soul mate.

I said it's closest in sound to post-rock. If you can tell me how the hell to differentiate the sound of post-rock and any other damn genre, tell me, because it seems like the newest hipster trend to my ears instead of an actual new sound.
It's really not closest to post-rock. The original emo (as in bands like Embrace, Rites of Spring) comes from hardcore (hardcore punk) (i.e. Minor Threat, Black Flag, etc.) - hence the name (emotional hardcore).

Modern emo takes its cues from pop-punk, as popularised by, among others, Green Day (with Dookie), but with a lyrical focus on (generalising here) teenage angst. Some might say that there are many bands currently considered emo who do this simply because of the market for it.

Post-rock is, and let me be clear here, absolutely not punk. Punk is, for the most part, loud and fast. Post-rock is...not. Listen to some Explosions in the Sky. The current post-rock 'scene' does actually have a few similarities with hardcore, especially with regard to the DIY ethic of the original hardcore scene. But there aren't actually similarities in the music. Find some Fugazi samples, then compare with...I don't know, Sigur Ros or Tortoise.

Post-rock does seem to have become popular recently (mainly, it seems here at least, due to the success of Sigur Ros), but as a genre it's been around for the best part of two decades - and that's just when the term became popular. But differentiating post-rock from 'emo' (i.e. pop-punk) surely isn't that difficult?

It's really not closest to post-rock. The original emo (as in bands like Embrace, Rites of Spring) comes from hardcore (hardcore punk) (i.e. Minor Threat, Black Flag, etc.) - hence the name (emotional hardcore).

Modern emo takes its cues from pop-punk, as popularised by, among others, Green Day (with Dookie), but with a lyrical focus on (generalising here) teenage angst. Some might say that there are many bands currently considered emo who do this simply because of the market for it.

Correction: Modern emo, like all genres, took the original and made it better for general consumption. Same thing happens to all genres.

Post-rock is, and let me be clear here, absolutely not punk. Punk is, for the most part, loud and fast. Post-rock is...not. Listen to some Explosions in the Sky. The current post-rock 'scene' does actually have a few similarities with hardcore, especially with regard to the DIY ethic of the original hardcore scene. But there aren't actually similarities in the music. Find some Fugazi samples, then compare with...I don't know, Sigur Ros or Tortoise.

Post-rock does seem to have become popular recently (mainly, it seems here at least, due to the success of Sigur Ros), but as a genre it's been around for the best part of two decades - and that's just when the term became popular. But differentiating post-rock from 'emo' (i.e. pop-punk) surely isn't that difficult?

Well, no shit. But your logic for saying post-rock isn't punk fails. Most punk is loud and fast. Emo tends to be placed as a sub-genre of punk. Emo is, usually, not loud and fast. Emo can be separated from pop-punk pretty easily because pop-punk is, oh. Sum 41, Simple Plan, some Blink 182, Good Charlotte- a form of punk that a 12 year old would enjoy. Emo tends to be different enough to not lump all those bands in (so it's the next stage in musical development for those who buy in to what record execs try to sell them).

You still haven't given me some definitions of post-rock, though. I listened to some of those bands and heard jazz, I heard electronic, and some other things I could classify without using "post-rock"- some of which possibly fell in to classical styles (before we go in to it, genre is a song form in classical- style is in classical music what we'd think genre is in popular music). Sigur Ros sounds a little like American Analog Set- does that make AmAnSet post-rock, too? Because I've been told they're definitely not.

Some of my favourite bands at the moment:

Mogwai
Oceansize
Biffy Clyro
British Sea Power
Starsailor
Arcade Fire
Broken Social Scene
The Maccabees
The Cribs
Bloc Party
Explosions in the Sky

All my music fits in my MP3 player (all 512 MB of it, don't buy much music anymore). Let's see if I can remember everything that's on there:

NIN
POD
Creed
Metallica
Johnny Cash
Nickelback
3 Doors Down
Default
Filter
Powerman 5000
Linkin Park
A Perfect Circle
Filter
Phantom of the Opera ST
Stabbing Westward
8stops7
Adema
Disturbed
Dry Cell
Eagles
Earshot
Evanessence
Fuel
Hoobastank
Lifehouse
Papa Roach
Puddle of Mudd
Static-X
System of a Down
Tantic
The Offspring
U.P.O.
kidneytheives

I appear to be stuck in the early '00's.

You still haven't given me some definitions of post-rock, though. I listened to some of those bands and heard jazz, I heard electronic, and some other things I could classify without using "post-rock"- some of which possibly fell in to classical styles (before we go in to it, genre is a song form in classical- style is in classical music what we'd think genre is in popular music). Sigur Ros sounds a little like American Analog Set- does that make AmAnSet post-rock, too? Because I've been told they're definitely not.

to quote wikipedia, "Post-rock is a genre of alternative rock characterized by the use of musical instruments commonly associated with rock music, but utilizing rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions that are not found in rock tradition. Simply put, it is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes. Practitioners of the genre's style typically produce instrumental music.

The thing about post rock is that because it is based on a particular method rather than a particular sound the music of different bands does not sound very similar. I enjoy Mogwai, Sigur Ros, Stereolab and Third Eye Foundation all of whom are classed as post rock but non of whom sound similar.

OK, favourite bands: in no particular order:

Shihad. (Rock).
The Gordons. (Rock).
The National. (Rock).
Battles. (Post-rock).
The Fall. (Post-punk).
Burial. (Dubstep).
Gang of Four. (Post-punk).
Talk Talk. (Post-rock).
Talking Heads. (Post-punk).
TV On The Radio. (Rock).

I downloaded Lucifer's Friend, and I've listened to Sir Lord on last.FM. However, both their debuts (Lucifer's Friend and Kingdom Come, widely considered their best work) can be found on CD.Ah, thank you.

Ah, thank you.

You're welcome.

Jeff Buckley
Nirvana
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Stabbing Westward
Gorillaz
Garbage
Poe
The Chemical Brothers
Harvey Danger
NIN
Johnny Cash
Biff Naked
Rage Against The Machine
The Pillows (JRock)
Death in Vegas
Oasis
Green Day
White Stripes
Prodigy
Sublime
Blind Melon
Rob Zombie
Incubus
Muse
Soul Coughing
Foo Fighters
P.M. Dawn
Jorgen Ingmann
B.O.C.
Smashing Pumpkins
No Doubt (the early stuff)
**** Ahh, I forgot***
E.S. Posthumus

What I like : Mostly trip-hop and dance (esp breakbeat) at the moment.

What's emo :

This - emo : http://www.myspace.com/imsorrycallfield (they're my mates, if musically without merit)

This - not emo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gUtGR-sS9A (not personally known to me)

If CToaN wants to analyze my list, that'd be cool, but if he doesn't want to that's fine, too.

Well, I should point out that I probably got Peep wrong now that I'm finding out that I got his age wrong. And if he's not American I'm probably way off base.

Mostly, if he's as old as suggested his list isn't so much a product of precociousness (no way I spelled that right on the first try!) as much as it is a product of lacking any active participation in music. He is, then, a likely cross section of the friends he's had, a metal head that never committed and so now his musical tastes resemble the grill of old touring cars, littered with badges of places visited but never stayed at long enough to make a real impression. On his own, I'd say, that his primary criteria would be that the music be 'but kicking,' but he is like silly putty to the music tastes of those around him. The in-store play CD could sell him as much as anything else.
Some of my favorites:
Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Local H, Metallica, Therapy?, Motorhead, Sonic Youth, the Melvins, Mudhoney, Swans, the Pixies, Hole, Babes In Toyland, Cathedral, Napalm Death, Carcass, Cradle of Filth, R.E.M., the Plasmatics, Hüsker Dü, Dead Kennedys, My Dying Bride, Death, Sebadoh, Dinosaur Jr., the Minutemen


You're more or less a different flavor of the same lollipop as Cat Tribes. You're younger-Nirvana was over exposed when Cobain Cobained himself, so if you wanted to see them you would have if you could have. That puts you too young or not around when they were touring. As a result you haven't had to accept adult life in the same manner as Cat Tribes so your music tastes haven't yet had to grow up. As a result you can embrace the punk rock a little more overtly, like naming yourself Jello Biafra. You lean more toward hardcore, but lyrically relevant, music. Your music is angrier than you are. Like Peep, there's a little butt rock in your past that you are maybe shy about but not ashamed. It's 50/50 on whether you can pass or not, but there is likely at least some sort of freak flag flying.

I couldn't sell you anything because I'm not punk rock enough. There is probably at least a reflex to avoid bands that have 'sold out,' but you have a sliding scale on what constitutes a sell out. You lean more darker and heavier, with things like Napalm Death, Death, and Cradle of Filth instead of the really punk rock punk rock of the likes of 7 Seconds or Sub Hum Ans. This is again part of your butt rock past. Your too young for me to know what's in your closet of shame. You might also have an older brother or slightly older relative that shaped your music either by influence or by direct contradiction.

I'm only batting 50/50 since I think my first poke at Peep was wrong. I recognize your crowd pretty easily. If I was still at the store I'd be able to predict what you'd be buying 3 out of 4 times, maybe 3 out of 5, but that's only because a lot of you worked at the store.

I should get around to posting mine so people can deride me as fair game. Maybe later.

My favourites (in order):
The Clash
…
…
U2
Elvis Costello
The Police

Other groups/people I like (not in order): the ELO, Pink Floyd, early Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, The Sex Pistols, David Bowie

There's too much ska in that for me to not tell you that you are obviously my soul mate.

Yeah, and I actually cut out a bunch of ska bands from that list... Skavoovie and the Epitones.. the Scawflaws... Buck-O-Nine... A bunch of first wave bands... Mainly because I dont listen to them "that often."

Emo is dead. Even Panic At The Disco are staying away from that genre. I'm more of an indie rock person:

Nirvana
R.E.M
Crystal Castles
The Futureheads
Radiohead
Muse
We Are Scientists

Some of my favourite bands.

Panic never were emo. Not in the true Movielife sense of the genre anyway; more that vacuous factory produced tripe the likes of Paramore peddle. Incidentally, explain the appeal of Radiohead. Why would anybody not simply want to punch Thom Yorke?

Oh yeah...music;

Casiotone for the painfully alone
Motion City Soundtrack
Brand New
Peachcake
Saosin
Roses are Red
From Autumn to Ashes
Drop Dead Gorgeous
As Cities Burn
All Time Low
The Smiths
Joy Division
At the Drive-in
Funeral for a Friend
LostAlone

*considers*

*sigs!*

:D
About time I get the recognition I deserve.

(1) I'd be here all day and it's extremely variable and diverse so I'll just provide the following:

My current playlist (http://www.geocities.com/corneriarocks/DGPlaylist)
My favourite 100 songs from 2002-2007 (http://www.geocities.com/corneriarocks/top100homepage.html) (it's still recent enough)

(2) If there's one thing I've learned about discussions like this it's that there's no use classifying anything since no one will be able to agree. We'd all be able to agree on what *doesn't* fall into a particular genre (e.g. Eminem is most definitely *not* country) but not on what *does*.

I discussed this once taking a pop music history class and my TA said to me that genre classifications are based on value systems so they're subjective. It makes a lot of sense- we all have an "idea" of what fits into particular genres but what that "idea" is varies from person to person. It's like anything we "label" (be it viewpoints, social groups, music, etc.), since it comes down to identity- if someone likes a particular set of artists they're more likely to group them together than someone who doesn't (and/or vice-versa). Not that there can't be "clear-cut" examples of genres but the diversity of how we classify artists leads me to believe that more often than not there's never really "one firm answer".

(3) Emo (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/EmoSign.jpg) :p

Seriously, I'd just say "look at my response to (2)". My own understanding is that it's "moody hardcore rock" with particular emphasis on extremes (emo could be happy although it isn't typically) while sliding a bit below punk. Punk has "grand" feel because the artist feels like writing a message "for everyone", emo is just personal. That's how I separate them anyway.

You have a very good taste if you leave metalcore out of it.;)

There's good metalcore and bad metalcore.

Converge, Shai Hulud, Uphill Battle, Ed Gein = good metalcore.

As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, BTBAM = metalbore. ;)

You're more or less a different flavor of the same lollipop as Cat Tribes. You're younger-Nirvana was over exposed when Cobain Cobained himself, so if you wanted to see them you would have if you could have. That puts you too young or not around when they were touring. As a result you haven't had to accept adult life in the same manner as Cat Tribes so your music tastes haven't yet had to grow up. As a result you can embrace the punk rock a little more overtly, like naming yourself Jello Biafra. You lean more toward hardcore, but lyrically relevant, music. Your music is angrier than you are. Like Peep, there's a little butt rock in your past that you are maybe shy about but not ashamed. It's 50/50 on whether you can pass or not, but there is likely at least some sort of freak flag flying.

I couldn't sell you anything because I'm not punk rock enough. There is probably at least a reflex to avoid bands that have 'sold out,' but you have a sliding scale on what constitutes a sell out. You lean more darker and heavier, with things like Napalm Death, Death, and Cradle of Filth instead of the really punk rock punk rock of the likes of 7 Seconds or Sub Hum Ans. This is again part of your butt rock past. Your too young for me to know what's in your closet of shame. You might also have an older brother or slightly older relative that shaped your music either by influence or by direct contradiction.

I'm only batting 50/50 since I think my first poke at Peep was wrong. I recognize your crowd pretty easily. If I was still at the store I'd be able to predict what you'd be buying 3 out of 4 times, maybe 3 out of 5, but that's only because a lot of you worked at the store.

I should get around to posting mine so people can deride me as fair game. Maybe later.Heh. Your analysis is mostly accurate. :)
As far as the older relative goes, that's especially accurate - my sister is about 8 years older and when I was growing up, she listened to not just rock, but *gasp* '80s pop! So I still can appreciate some of it, but mostly only the stuff she listened to.

I hate listing my music tastes because you get immediately judged from it, also I'm in to way too much shit. I can tell you though that any music which is labelled as emo, almost always sucks (in my, and many others, opinion).

That's the whole point of this thread, so drop trou' and get measuring your dick with the rest of us. It wouldn't be a dick-measuring contest if we weren't here to brag and compare and judge.

Sonata Arctica (rock & roll)
Manowar (rock & roll)

Sorry, friend, these two bands are clearly Power Metal.

As for me, I stick pretty much with metal of all kind, except nu-metal, which I hate. I cannot even name bands I prefer, because there are way too many and I've seen so many shows... :rolleyes: :P



The definition of emo is a very touchy question, really. The way I see it, though, is that what people call 'emo' today is FAR AWAY from the 80's emotive hardcore, it's not even related. Today, emo is a tag more than anything, even though there IS a typically emo sound, especially in the vocals. There are different kinds of modern emo : emocore, screamo, emo punk, etc. What is reccurent : depressive lyrics, but differently from goth ones, emo lyrics talk about love breaks, lack of self-esteem while goth talk about a more spiritual pain; there is also the agressant, often high-pitched vocals, lack of real technicality, dropped tones, etc. Also, a lot of bands are tagged 'emo' because of what they look like.

Oh and Carcass, Napalm Death and others similar bands you listen to (I'm excluding Cradle of Filth and Children of Bodom, just like Slipknot and other poser metal bands) ROCK! :D

my main favourites are ska, reggae, soul, blues, punk, drum and bass and breaks but i'll listen to anything. i even like a lot of disposable pop. there's not a lot of R'n'B i can stand though. modern "R'nB" i mean, real R&B music i love.

The idea of this thread is (1) post some of your favorite bands/music, (2) categorize bands that have been listed, and (3) tell me what the hell "emo" is.

This thread swirls from a discussion in another thread I was in that was classifying music I like as "emo." I take no offense at that, but am unclear what it signifies.

I also am wishing to build on prior threads in which I have seen vicious lobbying over what qualifies as punk, alternative, etc. I think many of the bands I listen to defy easy categorization.

Anyway, here are a list of some of my favorites in no particular order (bolded names I've seen live at least once):
Nirvana
Jane's Addiction
The Pogues
The Grateful Dead
Rage Against the Machine
Liz Phair
Courtney Love
Social Distortion
Lyle Lovett
George Gershwin
Led Zeppelin
Hole
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Bauhaus
Robert Johnson
Prodigy
The Cure
Bob Marley & the Wailers
The Clash
BeauSoliel
Aimee Mann
Erasure
Cracker/Camper Van Beethoven
Blues Traveler
Tom Waits
The Pixies
Fugazi
Pink Floyd
The Doors
Wheatus
Hüsker Dü
The Velvet Underground
Siouxsie & the Banshees
Dead Kennedys
Echo & the Bunnymen
Black Flag
Fishbone
John Prine
Minor Threat
Government Issue
REM
Porno for Pyros
Shane MacGowan
The English Beat
Jimmy Buffett

So, (1) what are some of your favorites;
(2) how would you pigeonhole the artists I listed; and
(3) is any of the above "emo" music (and what is "emo" music)?

i wouldn't have said any of those was emo although i've not heard of about a quarter of them. i only know of one emo band and that's My Bloody Valentine. i'm not really clear on what constitutes emo music either to be honest. i'm not a big fan of pidgeonholing tough. there's lots of music that obviously belongs to a particular genre but i really don't see the need to invent categories for bands that don't fit into a particular category. it irritates me that people do, the main reason i stopped reading the NME was because of their penchant for this.

i wouldn't have said any of those was emo although i've not heard of about a quarter of them. i only know of one emo band and that's My Bloody Valentine. i'm not really clear on what constitutes emo music either to be honest.

My Bloody Valentine are an alternative rock band who were briefly active (but very influential) in the early 90s - I've never heard them described as emo. Are you getting them confused with My Chemical Romance?

CToaN: Could you have a go at pigeonholing me?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13542496&postcount=31 is a short list of a few, also:

Attack Attack Attack
The Illawen
Eagles
Dire Straits
Moody Blues
Django Reinhardt
Oscar Peterson
MJQ
Chanticleer
POD
Tchaikovsky
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young

for a few more.

As I always say, everywhere...
A range, but mainly Rock from 1965 to 1975.
The Beatles, Jefferson Airplane, Santana, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, (early) AC/DC, Big Brother & the Holding Company, Black Sabbath, Canned Heat, Country Joe & the Fish, Cream, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Crosby Stills Nash & Young, THE DOORS, Grand Funk Railroad, Hawkwind, Iron Maiden, Janis Joplin, Judas Priest, Joe Cocker, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, King Tubby, Led Zeppelin, Mountain, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, The Prodigy, Björk, Rage Against the Machine, Ravi Shankar, Richie Havens, The Rolling Stones, Scientist, Silverchair, Simon & Garfunkel, Steppenwolf, The Stone Roses, Tears for Fears, Van Halen, The Black Keys, The Foof Fighters (:p), The Beastie Boys, Beck, Procol Harum, Paul McCartney & Wings, the Alabama 3, John Renbourne, Public Enemy, the Fun Lovin' Criminals, Fleetwood Mac...

<SNIP>I should get around to posting mine so people can deride me as fair game. Maybe later.

I'd actually be interested in seeing what you can up with about me based on my list CToaN...


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13543067&postcount=45

El Ten Eleven
Do Make Say Think
Sigur Ros
Broken Social Scene
Depapepe
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Tera Melos
Portugal. The Man
Olafur Arnalds
Tenebre
Tom Waits
Thelonious Monk
Roland Kirk
Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Balmorhea

There's good metalcore and bad metalcore.

Converge, Shai Hulud, Uphill Battle, Ed Gein = good metalcore.

As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, BTBAM = metalbore. ;)

I like Killswitch Engage (or at least a couple of their songs).

My musical tastes tend to be far too eclectic. But here are some of the bands and artists I like, in no particular order:
Mägo de Oz
Piperrak
Aktibiztaz
Melendi
Niña Pastori
Ojos de Brujo
La Húngara
Camela
Efecto Mariposa
El Sueño de Morfeo
Amaral
Amistades Peligrosas
Nena Daconte
Megaherz
Eisbrecher
Rammstein
Unheilig
Oomph!
Nightwish
Lacuna Coil
Leaves Eyes
The Rasmus
Totentanz
Tori Amos
Celtic Frost
Fintröll
Malice Mizer
Buck-Tick
L´arc-en-Ciel
Heretique
Masanori Sasaji
Origa
Gackt Camui
PoppinS
Hurt
Evans Blue
Thousand Foot Krutch
And a few others I can´t remember...

As for emo, what emo is, well, I always associated that movement with American, white kids who wear too much eye-shadow, have crazy hair-dos, want to die or want to become horrid rock singers with no talent, they like Panic! At the Disco or Linkin Park or Green Day or KoRn and use far too much fabric on their clothes. Sorry if this sounds biased.

Since becoming a theater-tech professional, I've only paid to see one band. Living Colour (http://www.livingcolourmusic.com/).
What's your favourite colour, Baby?

CToaN: Could you have a go at pigeonholing me?

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I'd actually be interested in seeing what you can up with about me based on my list CToaN...


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13543067&postcount=45

Really? I was pretty sure people would hate me doing that. It might take me a day or two to get around to it, I'm wrapping on the worst show ever and it's likely going to eat all my time for the next two or three days. But then, if I remember, I'll see what I can do.

Uh... Linkin Park is like... Rap-Metal. And Korn is a Nü-Metal band. And in my opinion, Green Day isn't really emo so much as pop-punk, but someone people call them emo for whatever reason.

My RYM sums my musical taste fairly well, I think:

rateyourmusic.com/~Megadead

Alternative and electronic music are my favorite genres; within the former, I particularly enjoy art rock (Radiohead, The Verve), shoegaze (My Bloody Valentine, Slowdive), indie (Neutral Milk Hotel, the Arcade Fire), alternative metal (Tool, Neurosis), and post-rock (Sigur Ros, Godspeed You! Black Emperor). Within the latter, I particularly enjoy trip hop (Massive Attack, Portishead), glitch (Oval, Autechre), IDM (Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada), and ambient (Brian Eno, Steve Roach).

I also like modern classical (Steve Reich, Philip Glass, Arvo Part), metal (Dream Theater, Mastodon), progressive rock (King Crimson, Yes), industrial (Nine Inch Nails, Coil), psychedelic-jazz-funk-hardcore-salsa-metal (The Mars Volta), and if I post anything more I will look like I'm trying to be eclectic for the sake of being eclectic.





And emo is just like every other genre--it doesn't have a real defintion, its meaning is understood through similarities, a sort of "family resemblance" between the artists so tagged. The problem with it is that the genre has undergone such massive changes in image, ethics, and style from its inception in the '80s (with Rites of Spring and Fugazi) to its current form (My Chemical Romance, Say Anything) that there is very little resemblance between the artists at opposite ends of the spectrum. However, the difference is no greater than that between Iron Maiden and Sunn 0))), and both of those artists are understood to be metal, so I see no reason not to consider emo a legitimate genre.

I like Killswitch Engage (or at least a couple of their songs).

That's okay, everyone has something they're ashamed of. I once got caught touching myself on a rollercoaster. It's not my fault, it was a boring rollercoaster.

My musical tastes tend to be far too eclectic. But here are some of the bands and artists I like, in no particular order:
Mägo de Oz
Piperrak
Aktibiztaz
Melendi
Niña Pastori
Ojos de Brujo
La Húngara
Camela
Efecto Mariposa
El Sueño de Morfeo
Amaral
Amistades Peligrosas
Nena Daconte
Megaherz
Eisbrecher
Rammstein
Unheilig
Oomph!
Nightwish
Lacuna Coil
Leaves Eyes
The Rasmus
Totentanz
Tori Amos
Celtic Frost
Fintröll
Malice Mizer
Buck-Tick
L´arc-en-Ciel
Heretique
Masanori Sasaji
Origa
Gackt Camui
PoppinS
Hurt
Evans Blue
Thousand Foot Krutch
And a few others I can´t remember...

As for emo, what emo is, well, I always associated that movement with American, white kids who wear too much eye-shadow, have crazy hair-dos, want to die or want to become horrid rock singers with no talent, they like Panic! At the Disco or Linkin Park or Green Day or KoRn and use far too much fabric on their clothes. Sorry if this sounds biased.

Right;

Linkin Park are shite nu-metal that ought to have been consigned to history with the likes of OPM.
Greenday are pop-punk, not emo. Not even a confluence of the two like Motion City Soundtrack.
Korn...well, I don't know what they are, but emo? No.

As for Panic, they do portray themselves either as emo, or post-emo, but frankly, they're more lyrically intelligent with lilting guitars and melodies than replete with breakdowns, intermittent screaming and singing and adapted pop-punk guitars.

Nice analysis. Highly intelligent and informed of you.

Some of my favourite artists:

Collective Soul (favourite band, also the only one I've ever bothered to see live :p)
Black Lab (alt rock)
Nine Inch Nails
Massive Attack
Lo Fidelity All Stars
Pink Martini
Rage Against the Machine
Scissor Sisters
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Niyaz (persian)
Daft Punk
Tegan & Sara
Dishwalla
Clint Mansell (composer)
Brahms (composer)
Alanis Morisette
Beck
Live
The Cardigans
John Williams (composer)
Blind Melon
Enya
Evanescence
Ace of Base
Pearl Jam
Audioslave
Soundgarden
Cake or Death (alt rock)
Darling Violetta (alt rock)
Clownage (french rock)
Danny Elfman (composer)
Days of the New
Elvis Presley
Fatboy Slim
Frank Sinatra
Garbage
Genesis
James Newton Howard (composer)
Jerry Berlongieri (techno composer)
Within Temptation
REM
Rob Zombie
Rodrigo y Gabriela
Semisonic
Stone Temple Pilots
The Goo Goo Dolls
The Verve Pipe
Tonic
Mint Royale
U2
Velvet Chain
Stellamara
Azam Ali



Whew, that's quite a list! Anyways, someone mind doing me? I'm sure mine is rather confusing. :D

X-Japan (80's glam rock)

That's a bit misleading, since most Glam Rock had really simple riffs and solos that sounded fancy, but were in fact almost as simple as the riffs (usually just based on one set scale). See KISS and Twisted Sister. X Japan had some fantastic music, and it's a damn shame that they're often slagged because they looked fancy/weird and had a lot of stage effects. Poor, poor Hide. Silent Jealousy, indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlJHhmcM3bI

Listen to this and tell me they can't totally wipe any Glam band you can throw at them.

Right;

Linkin Park are shite nu-metal that ought to have been consigned to history with the likes of OPM.
Greenday are pop-punk, not emo. Not even a confluence of the two like Motion City Soundtrack.
Korn...well, I don't know what they are, but emo? No.

As for Panic, they do portray themselves either as emo, or post-emo, but frankly, they're more lyrically intelligent with lilting guitars and melodies than replete with breakdowns, intermittent screaming and singing and adapted pop-punk guitars.

Nice analysis. Highly intelligent and informed of you.

For lyrically intelligent see: Pretentious.

I also thing Panic, with their new album out have strayed from being labeled based on their last album. They are something terribly different now. But I will still have to listen to people call them emo and stand behind the scenesters etc. to see them.

But right now... on my current Playlist is:

Something Corporate, Jack's Mannequin, Rise Against, The Who, Eagles, The Clash, Death Cab for Cutie, Dashboard Confessional, Brand New, The Rocket Summer, PlayRadioPlay!, Mando Diao, Timo Räisänen, Beatsteaks, Sia, Just Jack, Cadence Weapon, Panic at the disco, Foo Fighters, Coldplay, Within Temptation, NoFx, Kate Nash, Coheed and Cambria, We are Wolves, Dark by Design, Saybia, Matt and Kim, The Pippettes, Mew, The Mars Volta, Gogol Bordello, Rage against the machine, System of a down, Serj Tankian, Flogging Molly, Great Big Sea, Our Lady Peace, Dresden Dolls, Ken Ishii, The Perishers, Kaizers Orchestra, IllScarlett, Billy Joel, Reel Big Fish, Bloc Party, Santogold, Billy Talent, My Chemical Romance, New Order, The Smiths, The Cure, Men at Work, Do me bad things, Les Savy Fav... there's more... but that's enough.

Since becoming a theater-tech professional, I've only paid to see one band. Living Colour (http://www.livingcolourmusic.com/).
What's your favourite colour, Baby?
Ever see 'em do stuff off "Time's Up"?
That would've been a good tour to catch. I didn't. :(

Whew, that's quite a list! Anyways, someone mind doing me? I'm sure mine is rather confusing. :D
I would, but it would be meaner than the rest of them. The cliff notes version is no, it's not confusing.

I would, but it would be meaner than the rest of them. The cliff notes version is no, it's not confusing.
Shuddup, I like some of those. Elitist bastards. Hrmph. :p

I'm using my old computer, so these are the artists I had most tracks by in 2005:
Ryan Adams, J.S. Bach, The Be Good Tanyas, Johnny Cash, Ry Cooder, Cosmic Rough Riders, Daft Punk, Bob Dylan, The Fall, Flatt & Scruggs, Grandaddy, Woody Guthrie, Buddy Guy, Haydn, Jimi Hendrix, Billie Holiday, Jools Holland (+ guests), John Lee Hooker, Lightnin' Hopkins, Howlin' Wolf, Idlewild, The Jam, Elmore James, Janascek, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Jesus & Mary Chain, Robert Johnson, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, B.B. King, k.d. lang, Leadbelly, Liszt, Mac Umba, Blind Willie McTell, Van Morrison, Youssou N'Dour, The Ramones, R.E.M., Elliott Smith, Sonic Youth, The Stanley Brothers, Tangerine Dream, They Might Be Giants, Ali Farka Toure, Big Joe Turner, Uncle Tupelo, The Undertones, Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble, Wagner, Muddy Waters, The White Stripes, Wilco, Hank Williams, Sonny Boy Williamson, Wire, X, Yo La Tengo, Neil Young
Some of these I still listen to a lot of, some I haven't played in ages. I have an overwhelming urge to start jumping around to the live version of Back 2 The Base now!

Now, I would say my music listening falls into five categories, all rather vague: 'alt.country', 'singer songwriter', 'punk', 'blues' and 'jazz'. I try not to be too much of a genre hawk, though: Miles Davis once said, "Can they play? That's all that matters."

I guess I also listen to a lot less contemporary music than my friends (the exception is alt.country, but living in London, even that is out of sync with their tastes), but it's really not an attempt to be 'alternative' or snobby: I just rarely find bands I like, and cannot bear listening to the radio as almost all DJs are twats.

The exception is live gigs, where I always go to really mainstream ones: Dylan, Muse, Gomez, Idlewild, Aimee Mann (delighted to see TCT is also a fan!), Teenage Fanclub, Chumbawamba, I Am Kloot, in approximately descending order of fame.

I have a lot of punk records but not much from the last 15 years so I don't think much of it counts as emo. Also my jeans are quite baggy.

I would, but it would be meaner than the rest of them. The cliff notes version is no, it's not confusing.Oh? "That person completely devoid of taste or interest in Good Music!" Indeed. :D

Really? I was pretty sure people would hate me doing that. It might take me a day or two to get around to it, I'm wrapping on the worst show ever and it's likely going to eat all my time for the next two or three days. But then, if I remember, I'll see what I can do.

Fuck it, what's the worst possible result? I read what you said and go 'nah, you got it all wrong?'

blah blah yada yada

Yeah, sorry about having to trim that analysis out. But anyway could you do me too? I know there's a waiting list at the moment. :p but I can wait.

Probably not confusing, and you can probably label me to a T.

Here are the artists on my iPod.

AFI
Alien Ant Farm
Alkaline Trio
Aqua
Bad Religion
blink-182
The Bravery
Breaking Benjamin
Bryan Adams
Bush
Cascada
Coldplay
Counting Crows
Crossfade
Daft Punk
Dark Moor
David Bowie
DC Talk
Death Cab for Cutie
DJ Bobo
Don Henley
Dragonforce
Dream Theater
Eagles
Fall Out Boy (One song of theirs. It's mediocre, but I love the image it conjures up in my head.)
Five for Fighting
Foo Fighters
Fountains of Wayne
Fozzy
The Fray
Gary Moore
Gogol Bordello
Green Day
Haddaway
Hinder
Howard Shore
The J. Geils Band
James Taylor
Joe Esposito
John Lennon
John Mayer
Kansas
Kelly Clarkson (don't ask)
The Killers
The Kinks
Linkin Park (lyrics are meh, but I like the sound)
Maroon 5
Michael W. Smith
NewSong
Nickelback
Nightwish
Nirvana
The O Zone (Numa numa!)
O.A.R.
The Offspring
Paul Colman
Pink Floyd
Queen
Red Hot Chili Pepers
Relient K
Rise Against
Rufus Wainwright
Seven Places
Simple Plan (excessive angst makes me laugh)
Something Corporate
Stan Bush
Sting
Stone Temple Pilots
Story of the Year (see Simple Plan)
Styx
Sum 41
Survivor
Switchfoot
System of a Down
They Might Be Giants
Three Days Grace
Tim McGraw
Todd Agnew
Toto
Vanilla Ice
Yellowcard
3 Doors Down

DJ Bobo
Dude...

Dude...

I'm not sure how to take that. But uh.. yeah. Anyway I've only got one song of his. "Freedom", and that's only because I heard a MIDI version used in a game once.

I'm not sure how to take that. But uh.. yeah. Anyway I've only got one song of his. "Freedom", and that's only because I heard a MIDI version used in a game once.
Oh, it was meant in a bad way. Baaaaaaaad. :p

Oh, it was meant in a bad way. Baaaaaaaad. :p

I know. My first observation when I got the actual song instead of the MIDI was that his music is a lot better without him.

Yeah, sorry about having to trim that analysis out. But anyway could you do me too? I know there's a waiting list at the moment. :p but I can wait.

Probably not confusing, and you can probably label me to a T.

Here are the artists on my iPod.

AFI
Alien Ant Farm
Alkaline Trio
Aqua
Bad Religion
blink-182
The Bravery
Breaking Benjamin
Bryan Adams
Bush
Cascada
Coldplay
Counting Crows
Crossfade
Daft Punk
Dark Moor
David Bowie
DC Talk
Death Cab for Cutie
DJ Bobo
Don Henley
Dragonforce
Dream Theater
Eagles
Fall Out Boy (One song of theirs. It's mediocre, but I love the image it conjures up in my head.)
Five for Fighting
Foo Fighters
Fountains of Wayne
Fozzy
The Fray
Gary Moore
Gogol Bordello
Green Day
Haddaway
Hinder
Howard Shore
The J. Geils Band
James Taylor
Joe Esposito
John Lennon
John Mayer
Kansas
Kelly Clarkson (don't ask)
The Killers
The Kinks
Linkin Park (lyrics are meh, but I like the sound)
Maroon 5
Michael W. Smith
NewSong
Nickelback
Nightwish
Nirvana
The O Zone (Numa numa!)
O.A.R.
The Offspring
Paul Colman
Pink Floyd
Queen
Red Hot Chili Pepers
Relient K
Rise Against
Rufus Wainwright
Seven Places
Simple Plan (excessive angst makes me laugh)
Something Corporate
Stan Bush
Sting
Stone Temple Pilots
Story of the Year (see Simple Plan)
Styx
Sum 41
Survivor
Switchfoot
System of a Down
They Might Be Giants
Three Days Grace
Tim McGraw
Todd Agnew
Toto
Vanilla Ice
Yellowcard
3 Doors Down
I'm going to jump you ahead because it's so easy I'm surprised you would ask. You're practically suckling off the teat of radio rotation, there are whole station formats designed around this.

This is a whose who of pop-punk bands smeared with some of the most banal tastings of 'other' music that really isn't that 'other.' Your 'classic' rock tastes are so inoffensive and bland that they almost read as your parents record collection-The Eagles, Kansas, Don Heanley, Sting (Sting! he might have reached a level of inoffensive that would make Paul McCartney and Peter Gabriel to think he should grow a pair), and for gods sake, Bryan Adams?

Add to that the Micheal W. Smith and it has to have been environmental influences that shaped the fluffy butter side of your tastes, because no one listens to Micheal W. Smith on purpose, at least not at first. Some of that music has 'hand me down' written in all over it.

No pop-punk skater kid (there is a chance that you don't own a skate board or own one but don't consider yourself a skater, but at this point these are technicalities) is complete with out his 'ironic music,' enter your Totos and Vanilla Ices.

Most telling is the listing of a film composer as a favorite. It's alright to appreciate the work of a specific score writer, and even to be able to recognize the value of the music without the pictures, but that music was meant and composed to be played with specific action. Listening to a film composers compositions divorced from the film is like eating white bread with mayonnaise. It's like you haven't quite formed your connection with orchestral music so you're relying on sense memory of the movie to fill in for repetitive riffs and singable lyrics.

You could almost buy music in yellow packaging marked "Rock". Or whatever the local radio station puts on a compilation for you. Theres about 4 to 1 that you have a radio station bumper sticker-maybe even one that has a name for its fans, like "Fogheads" (but not Fogheads, well, maybe...it seems like your radio dial would bounce back and forth between KFOG and Live 105). If you don't have a favorite radio station it's either because you've never looked or you live in a teeny tiny market. All the selling in the world was done to you before you walked in the store, all I have to do is remind you how to look up things alphabetically.

Sorry, once again. It's more of that 'everyone's music tastes suck, just in different ways' thing.

I'm going to jump you ahead because it's so easy I'm surprised you would ask. You're practically suckling off the teat of radio rotation, there are whole station formats designed around this.

Probably.

This is a whose who of pop-punk bands smeared with some of the most banal tastings of 'other' music that really isn't that 'other.' Your 'classic' rock tastes are so inoffensive and bland that they almost read as your parents record collection-The Eagles, Kansas, Don Heanley, Sting (Sting! he might have reached a level of inoffensive that would make Paul McCartney and Peter Gabriel to think he should grow a pair), and for gods sake, Bryan Adams?

Eh, Don Henley, Sting, and the Eagles are my parents yes. Kansas was my own choice though, but only "Carry on My Wayward Son"

Add to that the Micheal W. Smith and it has to have been environmental influences that shaped the fluffy butter side of your tastes, because no one listens to Micheal W. Smith on purpose, at least not at first. Some of that music has 'hand me down' written in all over it.

Meh.

No pop-punk skater kid (there is a chance that you don't own a skate board or own one but don't consider yourself a skater, but at this point these are technicalities) is complete with out his 'ironic music,' enter your Totos and Vanilla Ices.

No skateboard, but we're talking about the Toto that wrote "Africa", right? Doesn't sound a whole lot like Vanilla Ice. Not to my ears anyway.

Most telling is the listing of a film composer as a favorite. It's alright to appreciate the work of a specific score writer, and even to be able to recognize the value of the music without the pictures, but that music was meant and composed to be played with specific action. Listening to a film composers compositions divorced from the film is like eating white bread with mayonnaise. It's like you haven't quite formed your connection with orchestral music so you're relying on sense memory of the movie to fill in for repetitive riffs and singable lyrics.

I usually don't think of the movie when I listen to it, and I haven't really found a lot of orchestral music that really sounds epic, y'know?

You could almost buy music in yellow packaging marked "Rock". Or whatever the local radio station puts on a compilation for you. Theres about 4 to 1 that you have a radio station bumper sticker-maybe even one that has a name for its fans, like "Fogheads" (but not Fogheads, well, maybe...it seems like your radio dial would bounce back and forth between KFOG and Live 105). If you don't have a favorite radio station it's either because you've never looked or you live in a teeny tiny market. All the selling in the world was done to you before you walked in the store, all I have to do is remind you how to look up things alphabetically.

Heh, don't have a bumper sticker actually. I do have a favorite radio station though, since you're right on that. But as far as record stores go, I'd actually be a surprisingly hard sell. I've bought maybe about 6 albums in the last five years. Four of them were Dream Theater, one was Nightwish and I can't remember the last one. I've actually developed a taste for Symphonic Metal and things like that. Edgeguy and Symphony X show up on that Pandora station too.

I'm going to be a bit obstinate and say that your analysis is somewhat off, but I suppose I was a bit misleading since there were details I didn't tell you. If I go to a record store, I generally know exactly what I'm looking for and do go for anything else. Most of the music I actually listed was obtained through Limewire, if that affects the analysis in any way.

Sorry, once again. It's more of that 'everyone's music tastes suck, just in different ways' thing.

A few ruffled feathers and some damaged pride, but I'll be OK.

heh, I like a mix of rock and punk, though it is more modern punk. Sex pistols fans will probably disagree with me over its classification.

Blink 182Sum 41
Hit the Lights
Panic! at the disco
Fall out boy
My Chems
Simple Plan
The Offspring
The Clash
The Jam
Sex Pistols
A friend played me some Nightwish earlier, and I loved that. Absolutely great.

Emo I would discribe as mostly based on the lyrics. Emo differs from Goth in that the music is often happy, but the lyrics are sad.

The bolded are usually referred to as "emo".

The italics are what I'd consider "pop-punk".


Three Days Grace (rock & roll)
Nickelback (rock & roll)


Three Days Grace aren't "rock & roll", they're "alternative metal". Nickelback are "alternative rock". "Rock & roll" does not mean the same thing as "rock".

Emo musically is very simplistic, with minimalist instrumentals, and vocals usually of a higher-pitched (though not falsetto) and generally nasal quality. Lyrically it tries to express emotional sadness, though ultimately falling short of that objective due to trite, archetypal lyrics.

Not really, no. That's your opinion of the music you think is "emo", not a definition.

Calling any of the above bands punk is an abomination.


I have to agree with you there.

I listen mostly to soft rock, R&B and oldies.

Lifehouse is my favorite band, Bob Seger, Switchfoot, David Grey, Goo Goo Dolls, Howie Day, Savage Garden, U2, Snow Patrol, Tegan and Sara, Louis Armstrong, The Temptations, The All-American Rejects, etc...

And emo is what girls who usually very easy to sleep with listen to.

I love Lifehouse, Goo Goo Dolls, U2 and Snow Patrol are one of my favourite bands.


And emo. Oh dear Lord. The oldest "emo" I have is early Jimmy Eat World (Clarity, Static Prevails), which is closest in sound to "post-rock" (what a bullshit name for a genre!). It's a more pop-ish off-shoot of punk.

I only found out recently that Jimmy Eat World are seen as "emo". I always would have classified them as "alternative rock".

OK, favourite bands: in no particular order:

Shihad. (Rock).

They're sort of "alternative rock", and I personally feel they're influenced by "metal", but I'm not sure about that one.

Oh, and a few the bands/artists I like are (in no particular order and leaving a lot out):

Snow Patrol
Jimmy Eat World
Kisschasy
Billie Holiday
Bic Runga
Bjork
Trickey
Lupe Fiasco
Pacifer/Shihad
Goldfrapp
The Beatles
The Vines
Bob Marley
Dido
Nirvana
Gregory and the Hawk.

I'll spare you a 50 page long list, but that's the ones I can think of right now. As a musician I'm interested in all kinds of music, but I find I'm attracted to jazz, alternative, rock, electronica, trip-hop, reggae... well, a lot of different genres.

Papa Roach
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Nirvana
Evanescence
Tool
Korn
NIN
Smashing Pumpkins
Butthole Surfers
Most of the German Clasical composers (hate Wagner)
old U2
old Aerosmith (really old)
Korn

Really? I was pretty sure people would hate me doing that. It might take me a day or two to get around to it, I'm wrapping on the worst show ever and it's likely going to eat all my time for the next two or three days. But then, if I remember, I'll see what I can do.

Hey, I reckon it should be amusing. I have a wide enough selection of artists to make it tricky, I think. To collect all the ones I've put in so far:

Attack Attack Attack
The Illawen
Eagles
Dire Straits
Moody Blues
Django Reinhardt
Oscar Peterson
MJQ
Chanticleer
POD
Tchaikovsky
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Hopeful Machines
Rush
Copal
This Ambitious Orchestra
Machinae Supremacy
The Unextraordinary Gentlemen
Rasputina
Abney Park
Vernian Process
Darcy James Argue's Secret Society
The Dresden Dolls
Aaron Copland
Shostakovich

I find it surprising that people can just post all their favourite bands, I would find that a near impossible and very laborious task. For me it is like asking someone what their favourite ever day in their whole life was. I mean, for me there is just way too many options and I'll probably forget to go into certain genres that I really like. I also like music for different reasons, often I enjoy bands but not for any artistic merit at all but just because they are fun and make me feel good (especially with modern music), sometimes it is the opposite and I view certain albums or tracks as works of art to be admired, sometimes it is both (especially with Jazz, but then being a musician and having family members with basements full of old Jazz records which I was subject to during my childhood has made me kind of biased towards it I guess). So CToaN, what do you think this makes me? Pretentious, lacking in passion, pseud (assuming your premise of every-ones music taste sucking is true)? I would be interested in an analysis, although the waiting list is huge.

I find it surprising that people can just post all their favourite bands, I would find that a near impossible and very laborious task. For me it is like asking someone what their favourite ever day in their whole life was. I mean, for me there is just way too many options and I'll probably forget to go into certain genres that I really like. I also like music for different reasons, often I enjoy bands but not for any artistic merit at all but just because they are fun and make me feel good (especially with modern music), sometimes it is the opposite and I view certain albums or tracks as works of art to be admired, sometimes it is both (especially with Jazz, but then being a musician and having family members with basements full of old Jazz records which I was subject to during my childhood has made me kind of biased towards it I guess). So CToaN, what do you think this makes me? Pretentious, lacking in passion, pseud (assuming your premise of every-ones music taste sucking is true)? I would be interested in an analysis, although the waiting list is huge.

Heh. You'll note that every time I've posted I've added several that I'd forgotten about. I have no doubt I could consider posting and adding stuff for ages, but what I've got is a representative sample of the sort of stuff I like and am listening to right now.

It works for me.

I find it surprising that people can just post all their favourite bands, I would find that a near impossible and very laborious task.

I think a lot of people have just listed what they can name off the top of their heads, thats what I did anyways.

My Bloody Valentine are an alternative rock band who were briefly active (but very influential) in the early 90s - I've never heard them described as emo. Are you getting them confused with My Chemical Romance?

yes, probably. the one with the lead singer that looks about 9 years old.

yes, probably. the one with the lead singer that looks about 9 years old.

This guy? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Way)

So many....

Nightwish
REM
Sonata Arctica
The Streets
Iron Maiden
Tom Petty
Suede
Radiohead
Linkin Park
Leahy
Type O Negative
Neil Diamond
HIM
My Chemical Romance
Pierrot
Evanescence
E Nomine
Moist
Norther
Falconer
Franz Ferdinand
Era
L'ame Immortelle
Red Hot Chilie Peppers
Dir en Grey
Pink
MUCC
David Bowie
Billy Idol
Within Temptation
Lake of Tears
Savage Garden
Guns N' Roses
Garbage
Gazette
Lacuna Coil
Narcosis Project
Gackt
The 69 Eyes
Hyde

Also, you never realize how much of an influence music has on your happiness until your mp3 player breaks and you can't find another one that will work on your computer :(

Really? I was pretty sure people would hate me doing that. It might take me a day or two to get around to it, I'm wrapping on the worst show ever and it's likely going to eat all my time for the next two or three days. But then, if I remember, I'll see what I can do.

If you get around to it, maybe you could do me. I listed some favorite bands, but I'll throw a quick list to the bottom of this post and also direct you to my last.fm page (http://www.last.fm/user/kizoku/). (It's only good for looking at artists- the plays are skewed because it only scrobbles what I listen to while at the computer. iSproggler doesn't work for me, and I obviously can't track what I listen to in the car or seek out on the radio.)

But a quick list of favorite bands of the moment: Nickel Creek, Rage Against the Machine, Flogging Molly, The Chieftains, Catch 22, Streetlight Manifesto, Norah Jones, Kanye West, Jay-Z (mostly The Black Album- I'm a tool), Willie Nelson, Eric Clapton, The Mountain Goats, Eels, Sarah McLachlan, Jump Little Children, Barenaked Ladies, Paul Simon, Arlo Guthrie, A Perfect Circle, Fiona Apple, Regina Spektor, Victor Wooten (who I got in to because I dated a bass player- figures). Plus John Coltrane and Miles Davis when I'm in a mood.

since i'm bored i thought i'd list some of my favourite bands/producers/etc. CToaN you can have a go at my list too if you like.

Stanton Warriors
Pendulum
Manu Chao
High Contrast
The Fall
65daysofstatic
Ikara Colt
Blur
The Kills
Aphex Twin
Four Tet
Culture
Alpha Blondy
Dizzee Rascal
Queens Of The Stoneage
The Kinks
Broken Social Scene
British Sea Power
Bob Marley
Kate Bush
Black Star
Leftfield
Chemical Brothers
Aphrodite
Easy Star All-Stars
Kasabian
Johnny Cash
John Lee Hooker
Asian Dub Foundation
M.I.A.
The Go! Team
David Bowie
Eastern Lane
The Flaming Lips
Murcury Rev
Goldfrapp
Sam Cooke
The Coral
Amplifier
Mogwai
Gang Of Four
Pixies
Sigur Ros
Dreden Dolls
The Delgadoes
The Specials
Siouxsie and The Banshees
Black Flag
The Clash
Husker Du
The Rolling Stones
Paul Simon
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
The Bees

that'll do, by no means exhaustive or especially representative of what i have. just a selection off the top of my head.

This guy? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Way)

probably

I find it surprising that people can just post all their favourite bands, I would find that a near impossible and very laborious task. For me it is like asking someone what their favourite ever day in their whole life was. I mean, for me there is just way too many options and I'll probably forget to go into certain genres that I really like. I also like music for different reasons, often I enjoy bands but not for any artistic merit at all but just because they are fun and make me feel good (especially with modern music), sometimes it is the opposite and I view certain albums or tracks as works of art to be admired, sometimes it is both (especially with Jazz, but then being a musician and having family members with basements full of old Jazz records which I was subject to during my childhood has made me kind of biased towards it I guess). So CToaN, what do you think this makes me? Pretentious, lacking in passion, pseud (assuming your premise of every-ones music taste sucking is true)? I would be interested in an analysis, although the waiting list is huge.
Okay, here's the thing. Everyone says that's what their music tastes are. Not very many people really want to say, "I only listen to this category of music and nothing else" or "my music tastes are clearly defined by concocted genre, radio rotation, or some jackass from a record store's assumption." And to some degree it really is true of everyone, people like what they like and that's pretty much it. But after seven years of watching people walk in an lauding their eclectic music tastes that were so off the charts, only to have been preceded and followed by a half dozen other people who had a similar spread I became a little cynical about it, and you could predict with pretty good odds what that person was going to buy and why.

And while I'm being playfully snide about it (and I hope people are picking up that I'm making a little fun of myself, too), there's nothing wrong with that. It's actually what makes Pandora so successful. (and makes me regret scoffing at their job listing when they first started up...) There is a similarity or commonness in the music you listen to even if it isn't always obvious, and that's how I'm doing this. I'm not 100% right because as much as I'm making of it, your music collection isn't tea leaves. But having been the funnel through which so many people got their music and having to talk to all of them, patterns emerge so that I can get a fairly good idea of what elements shaped someone's music or how that music shaped them, like guessing that dudes parents records in his list or figuring out that Cat Tribes had an old army jacket and a current subtle freak flag.

So, in short, everyone says thats their music criteria, but without specifics I can't tell you exactly how you're kidding yourself.

I'm not going to bother mentioning all of the hordes of bands I like, but I will mention a few of my favorites.

Iced Earth
My Dying Bride
Nirvana
Slipknot
Ra
Linkin Park
Pink Floyd
Rammstein
Seether
Nine Inch Nails
A Perfect Circle and Tool

Well, I of course like many more, but those are a few that hold a speciel place in my heart.

As for emo, most of the people here are classyfying(Sp?) the music, but heres my definition: Freaky deppresed kids who have entirely too much fun with knives. No offense to emos by the way, I'm actually friends with several, and have myself been called gothic more than once, which is related in ways. I don't really consider myself a goth, I just happen to like black, but, people usually don't care when I try to tell them that....

If you get around to it, maybe you could do me.

Woohoo!!!
Nice sig mention, btw. Not about me - Ars longa, vita brevis. :)

Woohoo!!!
Nice sig mention, btw. Not about me - Ars longa, vita brevis. :)

Recognize whose motto it is, or just that it's awesome in general? (Cause I rarely get comments about it from people who don't know the organization.)

(After posting, I realize that I link to the nationals website. I need supervision when online after my bedtime.)

And, yes. Heh. That was an example of the word vomit I am so good at sometimes.

Oh, also I think I may not have been clear. Those weren't my favorites. That'd boil down to Dream Theater, Nightwish, Offspring, Dragonforce, Bad Religion and a few others. I just gave you everyone on my iPod.

Oh, also I think I may not have been clear. Those weren't my favorites. That'd boil down to Dream Theater, Nightwish, Offspring, Dragonforce, Bad Religion and a few others. I just gave you everyone on my iPod.

Your list of all the artists on your iPod is about the same length as my list of favorites, if I was given a chance to think about it. Occasionally I'll look on my iPod and be pleasantly surprised to find an album I didn't know was there before. (I had an ex who added a lot of music to it without my knowing; he was mostly trying to make guesses on things I'd enjoy.) Just ten minutes ago I had to clear out four or five albums off my iPod because it's full. (It's only a 30G.)

Your list of all the artists on your iPod is about the same length as my list of favorites, if I was given a chance to think about it. Occasionally I'll look on my iPod and be pleasantly surprised to find an album I didn't know was there before. (I had an ex who added a lot of music to it without my knowing; he was mostly trying to make guesses on things I'd enjoy.) Just ten minutes ago I had to clear out four or five albums off my iPod because it's full. (It's only a 30G.)

I generally have far more space than I know what to do with, despite the fact that if I even remotely like a song I'll nab it off of somewhere. Thus, there's a single Fallout Boy song on my iPod. Why? Because there's a part about thirty seconds long that I think sounds kinda cool.

Yeah, I'm lame like that. Oh, and who could forget the DJ Bobo?

I listen to almost every genre except for straight up country music. Heres an example of my fav bands/musicians

1. Arcade fire
2. Bloodhound gang
3. Sum 41
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Cypress hill
6. Less than Jake
7. John Mayer
8. Reel Big Fish
9. Sunny Day Real Estate
10. The Beatles
11. Sex Pistols
12. Beastie Boys
13. The ACRO-BRATS
14. Pixies
15. Rancid
16. Sonic Youth
17. Rage Against the Machine
18. Green Day
19. Queen
20. Pink Floyd
21. Sublime
22. Operation Ivy
23. The Casualties
24. Maximo Park
25. Silverchair (their old stuff)
26. Bush
27. Foo fighters

The list goes on...

Ooh, yay! A happy bragging thread! :D

/Disclaimers/: I have no clue about music "genres" because, to me, they are just marketing BS, so I ignore them. Thus, I have absolutely no clue what genres are included in the following list. This list is off my iTunes, it is not everything I like because not everything is in my computer yet -- I have beloved LPs that are out of print now (for the children, that means you can't get them anymore). Also, I don't recognize three quarters of the bands mentioned in this thread, and I hate up to half of the rest, but then most of you will not have heard my fave bands, and would probably hate them if you did. :) This list does not include my jazz and classical faves nor the more "traditional" "field recording" type world music stuff. NOTE: I was a child in the 60s and went to high school from 1978-81, so take that into consideration. /Disclaimers/

Muravyets Listens To (in no particular order):

Violent Femmes
The Pogues
Squirrel Nut Zippers
The Clash
Iggy Pop and the Stooges
The Ramones
Red Elvises (Russian band)
The Rolling Stones
The Velvet Underground
Haircut 100
The Gypsy Kings
Tito Puente (the Mambo King)
Santana
Smashmouth
Enya
Man or Astroman?
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
Stevie Wonder
Psychedelic Furs
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Billy Idol (and I'll kick your goddamned ass if you say anything about it)
Ryuichi Sakamoto (formerly of Yellow Magic Orchestra, out of print)
Lo-Fidelity Allstars
Swing Out Sister
Steely Dan
The Jefferson Airplane (but not the Starship (blech!))
Dee-Lite
Stone Temple Pilots (with Scott Wyland)
Pizzicato Five
Jimi Hendrix
Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, or any combination thereof
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
The Pretenders
Nash the Slash (out of print)
The B52s
Waitresses
Beastie Boys
Sex Pistols
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Any jazzy-funky-dance-bossa nova fusion thing from Brazil, especially Sergio Mendes or an outfit called Bossacucanova
The Doors
The Shamen
I admit to an unhealthy taste for 70s disco, especially Gloria Gaynor, Kool and the Gang, KC and the Sunshine Band, The Bee-Gees, that kind of thing
The Plastics (out of print; connected to Pizzicato Five, above, but not the same style)
Devo
Madness
Trio (German band, out of print in the US, as far as I know)
and I really dig Klezmer music

That's enough for now. :)

Your list of all the artists on your iPod is about the same length as my list of favorites, if I was given a chance to think about it. Occasionally I'll look on my iPod and be pleasantly surprised to find an album I didn't know was there before. (I had an ex who added a lot of music to it without my knowing; he was mostly trying to make guesses on things I'd enjoy.) Just ten minutes ago I had to clear out four or five albums off my iPod because it's full. (It's only a 30G.)

Heheh you say only 30GB! Shit now I only have 1/2GB on mine, still enough space for 5-6 albums though so it suits me.

Okay, what the heck. I don't have as much to go on and I can't really guess your age, which helps a bit because what people listen to at what stage in their lives helps me a bit in determining things. If I had to guess it would be mid to late twenties, putting you just post college or at the end of you college life. Your list is a little too precocious for me to assume you skipped college, but it's possible.

I don't have any cool sounding terms like taking established genres and putting words like 'proto' or 'post' in front of it, though I suspect you might be a non-repentent recovering butt rocker. Instead of denying owning a Ratt album you might insist that 'Whatever, they were cool,' in an apologetic non-apology. It doesn't matter if that band is Ratt, W.A.S.P., Quiet Riot...it's probably not Poison or any 'pretty' band, except maybe Twisted Sister.

If I had to come up with a term, it would be relentless scenster. You'd bill it as ecclectic, but truth be told your CD collection shares about 80% in common with others of your type, much like the kid who slides his cup across the soda machine to get a random sampling of all the sodas ends up with roughly the same soda as any other kid who did that. It's not really comparable to the kid who carefully mixes a soda formula that he painstakingly concocted. It might be gunshyness after choosing such a cheese ball genre early on, rather than be ashamed of it you just decided to embrace the cheese across the spectrum.

Like Cat-Tribes you've acquired a collection of 'respectables.' Like skimming the surface of each you sort of pick the vanilla of each flavor-all easy to defend. How can you not, on some level, like Buddy Holly or John Lee Hooker? Your flavor comes in the sprinkles, that you went and saw Manowar live says a lot. Such a concert is an event as much as it is a desire to actually see the band. You fall just on the happy side of appreciating them ironically in that you'll admit that they are a little cheesy, but "come on, they rock." While I'm still being snide, of the two kinds of people that would go to that show (the ironic ones and you), you'd be more fun to go with because you'd actually let yourself enjoy it without pretending that you're above it at the same time.

Which is not to say that you are entirely devoid of depth, just that it's a snorkelers depth, not a SCUBA divers depth. Every once in a while you get a good dive but then you have to come up for air and tell everyone how cool it was.

You might also be prone to 'I liked them before they were cool' syndrome.The more people at your party the less distinct it makes you, but you don't really come up with anything that isn't too far below the surface, so you're always one or two articles ahead of the Johnny Come Latelies.

I wouldn't sell you CDs because the racks and listening stations would do that for me. At best I'd help you find that band that you think you discovered but is really just benefiting from a push the distributer orchestrated.

Once again, sorry for the snideness. It is so thoroughly cultivated that I'm the same way about my own music tastes.

I don't think I nailed it 100%, rather I got close enought to the mark to make adjustments.

Ahhh well I was hopeing for more, but I guess I didn't give enough huh, thats coz you are quite correct(well sorta) when you say eclectic, I didn't want to give you a massive list just some choice samples.

Naa sorry man, you go me mostly wrong, I'm 39, never went into higer education, left school after my exams and walked right into a job.

When I first got into music it was the late 70's and so Madness gave way into the Ska revival of bands like The Speicals, so Ska was really my first love, and thence into rock and metal. My love of 50's Rock 'n' Roll comes right from my childhood, my dad playing Buddy Holly, and The Everly Brothers.

I do indeed own seveal LPs by Ratt, W.A.S.P, Twisted Sister and Poison, and you are correct I make no appolgy for them. Because it was the rock music and the rock bands of my youth, so I also have others from that time, Metalica, Slayer, Megadeth, GnR, etc..

Heh I have never really been a follower of scences or fads, that is except of course the big haried rock of the 80's, indeed I only got into bands like The Pixies, and Janis Joplin when I hit my 30's and my musical tastes started to very a little more.

You are sorta right and wrong about Manowar though. As a teenagre I was just blown away by the sound of them, and after Madness, and then Ska, I can proudly cite them as my third big influence in my musical life. When I saw them way back in 86 I did so oblivious of the cheese factor, now of course I can see the cheese, and yet I still like it, cheesey or not, they make the biggest noise I have ever heard in my life.

Ahhh well good try though, I guess if you had been able to pin the age down it may have gone better for you.

Since becoming a theater-tech professional, I've only paid to see one band. Living Colour (http://www.livingcolourmusic.com/).
What's your favourite colour, Baby?

Sweet! Are they still going.......!

Naa sorry man, you go me mostly wrong, I'm 39...

Sure...like my mom's been 39 nigh on 20 years now.

Sure...like my mom's been 39 nigh on 20 years now.

Why you whipper snapper! I got my 40th in August, and I can't wait man. My mum well she's a young and spritly 60 in few months.

Ahhh well good try though, I guess if you had been able to pin the age down it may have gone better for you.

I had already conceded defeat when it was clearer I got the age wrong. I even gave an adjusted assessment of you in someone else's that I think was closer. I don't mind getting general things wrong, but I dig it when I get specifics right, and getting the butt rock bands in your collection right makes up for a lot for me.

I had already conceded defeat when it was clearer I got the age wrong. I even gave an adjusted assessment of you in someone else's that I think was closer. I don't mind getting general things wrong, but I dig it when I get specifics right, and getting the butt rock bands in your collection right makes up for a lot for me.

Y'know maybe it's me age but, butt rock? WTF?

Y'know maybe it's me age but, butt rock? WTF?

It shifts depending on who uses it, but for me it's more or less a blanket term for primarily 80s metal. Any rock where the audience has an abundance of torn denim, bandanas, and/or primered 70s Trans Ams with giant decals on the hood. Roughly. I kind of use the term loosely my self...

Finally worked out a way of listing a good x-section of the sort of thing I listen to - take the pile of cds I've listened to in the last few weeks that are now sitting next to the stereo, and list 'em all (bands only, not bothering with albums):

65daysofstatic
Pennywise
Muse
Ash
Mastodon
Red Sparowes
Bossk
Dead Kennedys*
Sigur Ros
At The Drive-In
You Slut!
Manic Street Preachers
Radio 4
The Duke Spirit
Crackout
Faith No More
British Sea Power
Nirvana
David Bowie
Rancid
Rage Against The Machine
Saint Etienne
Ska-P
Sahara Hotnights
Eminem
Clark (Chris Clark)
Neurosis
Jesu
Refused

Italicised means I've seen them live, bold means more than once.

*in 2004, without Jello Biafra.

It shifts depending on who uses it, but for me it's more or less a blanket term for primarily 80s metal. Any rock where the audience has an abundance of torn denim, bandanas, and/or primered 70s Trans Ams with giant decals on the hood. Roughly. I kind of use the term loosely my self...

Loosely huh! Wait did you just say loose butt rock?

Seeing the Dead Kennedys without Jello must have, well, kind of sucked.

Seeing the Dead Kennedys without Jello must have, well, kind of sucked.

Well I guess sucking is one way to eat it, but I would just use a spoon or summit really.

Seeing the Dead Kennedys without Jello must have, well, kind of sucked.
Possibly, but I've not seen them with Jello so I can't really compare. Still the same music, whoever the singer is.