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Pretty simple, are you a member of a political party, organization, tendency or the like? And if so, are you active in that organization etc, what is your organization and it's members like, have you ever been involved in direct action etc?

I'm not a member of any party.

Not in the way you claim to be.

I'm not a member of any party.

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I'm the "Online Administrator" for the SMU Linguistics society.

But that's about it.

I'm not a member of any party.

same here.
however it's tempting to start my own, comedic one, just to see how far it can go, well if i had the money.

My Student's Union and by extension, the NUS. One is cheerleading government policy, the other is generally useless, when it comes to politics.

The Labour Party... this is by virtue of once being part of the Labour Students society at my university... they never took me off their books so I keep getting membership crap through the post from them.

Could I be bothered I'd probably rescind my membership...

The Labour Party... this is by virtue of once being part of the Labour Students society at my university... they never took me off their books so I keep getting membership crap through the post from them.

Could I be bothered I'd probably rescind my membership...
Strangely enough, most Student Labour members I know don't like the current Labour leadership very much.

erm...I've been to a few politically themed parties and there is that club that is famous for spiking that is permanently communist :p

not in any dull sense no

Strangely enough, most Student Labour members I know don't like the current Labour leadership very much.

They preferred Blair?

Political Party? Yes

Active? Thinking about it

How? By volunteering

Not now, but in college I was a member of several parties... and someone probably has the drunken pictures to prove it. :P

Until recently I was a member of the Labour Party. Can't be arsed with it now, though.

I'm not a member of any political party

Strangely enough, most Student Labour members I know don't like the current Labour leadership very much.I find that the general membership of the society tended to be fairly socialist, but couldn't be bothered to get involved in running the society which meant all the student politicians trying to push into the real world of politics were elected into the leadership. They tended to be loyal Blairites and didn't really like Brown.

I flirted with joining the Communist party (USA) while I was in college, since my own political opinions tend to be very socialist/progressive. But after reading some of their literature, I decided against.

On the whole I find all organized political parties rather dubious. They each have their own little agendas that don't quite jibe with the vision of the party members as a whole. I don't like following dogma blindly. I prefer to keep my own council on politics and religion. Just give me the facts (or the propaganda from each side of the issue - truth will be somewhere in between), and let me make up my own mind.

I am a very content independent.

Pretty simple, are you a member of a political party, organization, tendency or the like? And if so, are you active in that organization etc, what is your organization and it's members like, have you ever been involved in direct action etc?

Andecha Astur (http://www.andechaastur.org/)
I was active until my third year of college, when my studies took most of my time.
Andecha Astur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andecha_Astur) is a leftist party in Asturias. It´s a place where every Asturian nationalist has a voice.
I don´t participate in it anymore, but I do support their ideology of independence or complete autonomy for Asturias.

Am I? I AM on NSG aren't I?
Would I like to be? Yes, but I'm still too young :(

I lean toward Republican, but most "mainstream" Republicans these days aren't even conservative anymore. If they actually had any influence in America, I'd probably join the National Socialist Party.

I checked off "Independent" on my voter registration a few days ago...

I considered joining the Socialist Party USA, but then I figured I'd probably be the only member in the whole state of Montana, and decided it probably wasn't worth it yet.

I have yet to find a party strongly enough comitted to personal freedoms and reason to join it.

And I've looked.

I have no political party. If a real leftist party ever comes around in America that ever has a fighting chance and is more than a haven for loons, I might join.

I have no political party. If a real leftist party ever comes around in America that ever has a fighting chance and is more than a haven for loons, I might join.

*passes him the pop corn and some soda cans*
Sit and wait...:(

I generally support the Democrats. I don't know if I'm technically registered as a Democrat, but I vote in their primaries and they send me stuff in the mail.

The Voter Apathy Party.

I have no political party. If a real leftist party ever comes around in America that ever has a fighting chance and is more than a haven for loons, I might join.

I've concluded that a real leftist party would not be putting candidates up for election anyway, favoring DIY/direct action instead. I still vote on referenda and such (as they qualify as DIY/direct action, in my opinion anyway), but leave all candidate selections blank. I'm registered as my state's equivalent to "none of the above" (which is not the same as "Independent" as there are specific "Independent" political parties).

Wisconsin has open primaries, so I'm not a member of any political party.

I've been thinking about joining the ACLU...

Pretty simple, are you a member of a political party, organization, tendency or the like? And if so, are you active in that organization etc, what is your organization and it's members like, have you ever been involved in direct action etc?
In principle, I'm opposed to large organizations in general. I'm a member of the Democrat party, but only to participate in primaries, and I might switch at some point to try to get Greens back on the ballot. As for direct action, I haven't engaged in any, because I think protesting is usually a pointless waste of time, and I don't have the motivation, resources, or ethical grounds to engage in other forms of direct action.

I once considered joining the Communist Party of Britain (http://www.communist-party.org.uk/), but read through their manifesto and other paperwork and decided against it for several reasons, paticularly my own beliefs that our system should not have organised political parties.

Also I found whilst (most, not all) of their economic policies I could agree with, many of their social and other views I do not agree with, and I feel would be counter-productive.

I lean toward Republican, but most "mainstream" Republicans these days aren't even conservative anymore. If they actually had any influence in America, I'd probably join the National Socialist Party.

Ewwww.

Pretty simple, are you a member of a political party, organization, tendency or the like? And if so, are you active in that organization etc, what is your organization and it's members like, have you ever been involved in direct action etc?

PdCI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partito_dei_Comunisti_Italiani

I work for the party's group at the Regione.
I am a member of my section directorate.
I also have been chairman of the provincial youth organisation of the party, member of the regional youth organisation political office, and member of the provincial and regional political commitees.
Direct action: anything, ranging from basical activity like distribution of propaganda leaflets to candidate to city council, to party security service during protest marches (I was at the G8 in Genova, just to name one).

Given that politics is just the art of hurting people while pretending you're not...no, I'm not actively involved in politics. It's a rather distasteful old thing.

...politics is just the art of hurting people while pretending you're not......It's a rather distasteful old thing.

That is rather quotable...and very true...

They preferred Blair?
They don't like Blair or Brown, although I think most prefer Blair out of the two.

I'm a member of the New Democratic Party of Canada. I've been pretty active; I'm a past President of my Riding Association, I've helped out in a few election campaigns, chaired a Candidate search committee, organized and helped out on various membership drives, etc.

Insofar as "direct action", I don't think I've been involved in anything officially through the NDP. I'm interested in human rights and development issues, though, so I have been in marches and peaceful protests in support of various causes. I live in Ottawa, so its not hard to find a group any given day of the week planning to make themselves heard in front of Parliament, or somebody's embassy.

Most of the New Democrats I've worked with are great; they're motivated by a sincere belief in social justice and want to make Canada a better, more just, place to live. Like any organization, political or otherwise, we also have our share of self-important egotists, abrasive personalities and empire-building technocrats.

I don't consider myself a member of any political party. I have very liberal views, but they don't seem to align with the Democratic Party. I tend to vote more by the issues. My votes usually aligned with the Democratic Party, but I don't consider myself to be passionately in love with the Democratic Party.

Given that politics is just the art of hurting people while pretending you're not...no, I'm not actively involved in politics. It's a rather distasteful old thing.

The one thing that I really find fascinating about the current economic problems in the United States (and, therefore, in the rest of the world) is how many people share the above sentiment concerning "politics." And how quickly they abandon said sentiment and demand that the "evil" politicians and associated central managers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fed) bail them out as soon as things go bad. Once said bailouts have been consumed and the markets settle back down again, I imagine that this sentiment will become chic again. At least until world markets are about to collapse again and "politics" becomes popular again.

At any rate, I've been looking at employment in a variety of non-profit and non-governmental organizations in order to put my upcoming degree in social science to good use. It is useful to know that my future employers (whose purpose and efforts are centered around local, national, and international politics) are made of pure evil. At least until the private sector needs the public/social sector to bail it out, again...

Tell me, if "politics" is a distasteful old thing, what is the greed that results in banking practices that encourage out of control and high-risk loans and credit that eventually collapse and threaten the entire economic system? When the loan officer at my bank swears that he has only my best interests in mind, he's actually telling the truth, right?

I'm a member of the New Democratic Party of Canada.
Pinko.

I used to be active. I joined the Reform Party of Canada when I was 18, and later was a Director of my constituency association. I was also the Returning Officer at some candidate nominations and scrutineer at one election.

Then I got a job working for the party full time, and I spent almost two years working in their national office. But the party ceased to exist while I worked there, and the new one I didn't like as much, so I left.

I'm a member of the Greens.

Member of the Lib Dem party (UK). Pretty Active I suppose, I intern in the Welsh Assembly group office and I've leafleted a couple of times. I may be standing in the upcoming local council elections (not with any intention of winning just to ensure more candidate coverage across the area, though I've heard a few horror stories of people who stood not intending to win and had a terrible panic of how to sort their commitments out when they were elected).

I chose to be an independent when I registered to vote. Beyond that, I don't plan on voting.

Or any activism besides the arm-chair kind.;)

I am not a part of any political party; in fact, I despise political parties because of the misinformation and conformity they spread.

I am a realist as should be obvious to anyone.

PdCI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partito_dei_Comunisti_Italiani

I work for the party's group at the Regione.
I am a member of my section directorate.
I also have been chairman of the provincial youth organisation of the party, member of the regional youth organisation political office, and member of the provincial and regional political commitees.
Direct action: anything, ranging from basical activity like distribution of propaganda leaflets to candidate to city council, to party security service during protest marches (I was at the G8 in Genova, just to name one).

Can't say I am fan of Eurocommunism, it's way too reformist for me, but good for you.

i support the greens in spirit. and that is what i'm registered to vote as.
perhapse i should say rather, that they come closest to supporting my dreams of the kind of world i would prefer to live in.

where i live, and the closest place they have their meetings, with the busses and me not having a car and all, i've never been able to make it to one.

=^^=
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A member of the Democratic Party, the National Rifle Association, and the American Civil Liberties Union.

I'm a member of the Greens.

I must admit to being a little surprised (and impressed). I suppose the 3RRR mention might have been a clue. What suburb are you from?

I'm actually a political apparatchik. I'm employed as an electorate officer for an Australian Labor Party member of the Victorian Parliament.

I used to be in the Socialist Left faction of the party but let that lapse. My boss is a shaker and mover in the right wing Labor Unity faction. My first loyalty is to her.

In the past I have been a branch secretary and may be again some time.

Only a centre-left or centre-right party will ever govern at the state or federal level in Australia so, if you want to be in a "left" party in Oz that can make a difference, then I think you can only join the Labor Party.

And you can make a difference. For example, we had a local public housing estate that was appalling - decrepit old bedsitters - and we campaigned for their demolition and reconstruction. Demolition starts in a week or so. The new estate is going to be terrific.

And how quickly they abandon said sentiment and demand that the "evil" politicians and associated central managers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fed) bail them out as soon as things go bad.
Actually, neither the Fed nor the banks want bail-outs to happen. The Fed doesn't want anything to do with that shit, and the banks know that having to be saved ruins your reputation forever (hence why Bear Stearns will never come back), and banking is all about trust and reputation.

The problem is simply the central role banks play in the economy, which means that a collapse isn't just another company falling, but also dragging with it people's savings and investments. Hence why after the Great Depression people decided that biting the bullet is the least bad option.

That is, until the Fed (and others) worked out the other option of letting the bank's equity and jobs be destroyed while keeping the assets it manages intact, namely through facilitating the takeover by a competitor at a firesale price.

Tell me, if "politics" is a distasteful old thing, what is the greed that results in banking practices that encourage out of control and high-risk loans and credit that eventually collapse and threaten the entire economic system?
It's the thing that makes our species survive. Greed, for want of a better word, is good...

Seriously though, you can criticise the banking practices (though I have a feeling most people don't actually know enough about them to make a good argument). The mistake that was made was simple, amateurish but not inspired by anything other than sheer stupidity. But talking about greed is an appeal to emotion and just not applicable - the banks were no more greedy than the people who finally got to buy their own homes. And if those people had been refused loans, we'd have the same people yelling "greed" now accusing the banks of greed for not handing out money to poor black people.

Anyways, the basic difference between politics and all this is of course that in politics my disagreement is noted (or denied) and then brushed away with violence. In business my disagreement leads to there not being a deal and everyone going their own way.

When the loan officer at my bank swears that he has only my best interests in mind, he's actually telling the truth, right?
No, he isn't. He's got his own best interest in mind. However, given that his job is to make you happy, your best interests are indirectly his best interests.

That being said, some people are just unethical dicks (http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/19/real_estate/borrowers_cruz/index.htm).

I'm proud member of the pirate party of Germany. I signed petitions, I participated in protests, supported the legal action against data retention and online searches. So, yes, I am politically active. :)

I'm a registered Republican. A couple of years ago, I was a registered Democrat. In a few years, I may change my registration to something else. The parties, as they stand now, don't stand for anything I care about and my only "party activity" is voting, usually against the party line.

I'm member of many of them ;)

I'm in the PCF (french communist party), the CGT (the main workers union), the MRAP (antiracist movement), the APRIL (Free Software organisation), and the CBP (bolivarian circle of Paris). And you consider I'm a member of the Secours Populaire Français (charity organization created by the PCF after WW2), since I regularly contribute to their campaigns.

I am a realist as should be obvious to anyone.

Except of course that your reality isn't everyone else's reality. In this reality, for example, torture is not effective and the death penalty does not deter criminals.

Except of course that your reality isn't everyone else's reality. In this reality, for example, torture is not effective and the death penalty does not deter criminals.

But it does cut down on repeat offenders, prision violence, and prision crowding.We really should use it for any non-statutory rape, and murder. That'd solve some problems.

Except of course that your reality isn't everyone else's reality. In this reality, for example, torture is not effective and the death penalty does not deter criminals.

Anyone that has ever seen anyone beaten up on the playground should have the common sense to grasp how effective torture is in extracting information. Saying that torture isn't effective is probably one of the most ignorant political positions one can have. Opposition based on a sense of superiority is one thing that I disagree with, but to say that it couldn't help get information from some terrorists is utter nonsense.

And I agree that the current enforcement of the death penalty doesn't work, but if a person is shot on the day they lose their appeal, within a year of their crime, then it would be effective.

A member of the Democratic Party, the National Rifle Association, and the American Civil Liberties Union.

Is that even possible? A leftist who owns a gun? Wow.

I´m also a part of IU- Izquierda Unida, a socialist party back home. I´m a part, mind you, but I don´t participate.

Is that even possible? A leftist who owns a gun? Wow.

Not a leftist, but close, and I own a gun.

Not old enough to register or vote yet, but I'm socially progressive/economically center. I usually support Democratic candidates.

Only a centre-left or centre-right party will ever govern at the state or federal level in Australia so, if you want to be in a "left" party in Oz that can make a difference, then I think you can only join the Labor Party.

The dominant faction in Labor is the centre/centre-right group...

Is that even possible? A leftist who owns a gun? Wow.

:rolleyes:

Is that even possible? A leftist who owns a gun? Wow.

nope. the revolution will be fought using pies.

nope. the revolution will be fought using pies.

So LG's going to lead it? :p

The dominant faction in Labor is the centre/centre-right group...

A couple of points.

1) Labor Unity is certainly left of the Liberal / National parties and, I believe, slightly left of the electorate.

2) I'm not a member of LU but they claim that, while they vote as a bloc on party positions, they allow considerable freedom, within party forums, on policy issues. As a result, they also claim, there is a broad range of positions on the left-right axis within the faction.

I might add that the Socialist Left seems to me to be struggling to formulate distinct policies. With Labor in government everywhere in Oz, SL members have pulled their heads in. For example, Julia Gillard is SL but you wouldn't know it from her behaviour.

Party for the Obliteration of Order and Peace

Party for the Obliteration of Order and Peace
That's a load of POOP and you know it. :p

nope. the revolution will be fought using pies.

As I expected. *nods*


Edit: Is LG in on this?

But it does cut down on repeat offenders, prision violence, and prision crowding.We really should use it for any non-statutory rape, and murder. That'd solve some problems.

The risk of killing innocents in such a system is too great to consider the death penalty to be a viable form of punishment. Unless you can have 100% certainty about a person's guilt, it is not realistically viable to perform the death penalty because you either kill too many innocents or it takes so long before a person actually gets the death penalty, if they do, for it to be a deterrent.

In other words, our resident "realist" does not realize that we are not perfect beings and that, hence, the death penalty is not a perfect punishment. If we were perfect beings, we would have no need of the death penalty.

And torture has been repeatedly shown and proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to be ineffective and that he closes his eyes and ears to reality just goes to prove that humanity is pretty much fucked if that's what "realism" is all about.

A couple of points.

1) Labor Unity is certainly left of the Liberal / National parties and, I believe, slightly left of the electorate.

2) I'm not a member of LU but they claim that, while they vote as a bloc on party positions, they allow considerable freedom, within party forums, on policy issues. As a result, they also claim, there is a broad range of positions on the left-right axis within the faction.

I might add that the Socialist Left seems to me to be struggling to formulate distinct policies. With Labor in government everywhere in Oz, SL members have pulled their heads in. For example, Julia Gillard is SL but you wouldn't know it from her behaviour.

The Socialist Left in the Australian Labor Party is a joke, these days it has lost most of it's economic policies and instead thanks to Whitlam it's only issue is presses in the party is gay rights and social equality, and the left can't even push that now seeing as how Rudd sold out to the Christians at the last election.

The Socialist Left in the Australian Labor Party is a joke, these days it has lost most of it's economic policies and instead thanks to Whitlam it's only issue is presses in the party is gay rights and social equality, and the left can't even push that now seeing as how Rudd sold out to the Christians at the last election.

Are you eureka australalis or whatever his name was?

Are you eureka australalis or whatever his name was?

They use the same rhetoric, certainly.

And I'm not a part of any party and don't intend to be, since none of my ideals are upheld by any political party.

I used to belong to the Conservative party, right up until David Cameron decided selective education might not get him elected, and dispensed with it as a policy.

Now, I'm half tempted to re-join amongst the burgeoning ranks of Tories for whom Cameron is a necessary evil.

nope. the revolution will be fought using pies.

Can I lead the counterrevolution using cake?

Are you eureka australalis or whatever his name was?

Yes.

Andaras=Andaras Prime=Eureka Australis

Can I lead the counterrevolution using cake?

You could, but you'll lose to the pies.

Yes.

Andaras=Andaras Prime=Eureka Australis

Sorry to be infantile, but you missed one part;

Andaras=Andaras Prime=Eureka Australis=Fucking moron.

Sorry to be infantile, but you missed one part;

Andaras=Andaras Prime=Eureka Australis=Fucking moron.
His views are strange to say the least, but we can all quite plainly see that for ourselves without resorting to flames

His views are strange to say the least, but we can all quite plainly see that for ourselves without resorting to flames

I'm standing by my observation; he is a moron.

I'm a registered Democrat, who is supportive of the Democratic Freedom Caucus. http://www.democraticfreedomcaucus.org/

I'm standing by my observation; he is a moron.


Sorry to be infantile, but you missed one part;

Andaras=Andaras Prime=Eureka Australis=Fucking moron.

Warned for flaming.

Can I lead the counterrevolution using cake?

Talk to LG. But I think he only uses pies.

I lean toward Republican, but most "mainstream" Republicans these days aren't even conservative anymore. If they actually had any influence in America, I'd probably join the National Socialist Party.

Aren't they Nazi-ish?

But it does cut down on repeat offenders, prision violence, and prision crowding.We really should use it for any non-statutory rape, and murder. That'd solve some problems.

And cause a few more.

Talk to LG. But I think he only uses pies.

I'm sure he'll use mud too.

I'm sure he'll use mud too.

Yeah, but pies are more his style.;)

Yeah, but pies are more his style.;)

Mud could be his armor.:)

Mud could be his armor.:)

LG, he´s organized, he´s near you, he´ll take over your neighborhood, nay, your world, with mud-soldiers and pie cannons!

I must admit to being a little surprised (and impressed). I suppose the 3RRR mention might have been a clue. What suburb are you from?

I'm actually a political apparatchik. I'm employed as an electorate officer for an Australian Labor Party member of the Victorian Parliament.

I used to be in the Socialist Left faction of the party but let that lapse. My boss is a shaker and mover in the right wing Labor Unity faction. My first loyalty is to her.

In the past I have been a branch secretary and may be again some time.

Only a centre-left or centre-right party will ever govern at the state or federal level in Australia so, if you want to be in a "left" party in Oz that can make a difference, then I think you can only join the Labor Party.

And you can make a difference. For example, we had a local public housing estate that was appalling - decrepit old bedsitters - and we campaigned for their demolition and reconstruction. Demolition starts in a week or so. The new estate is going to be terrific.

Higgins is my electorate, I didn't vote for Peter Costello.

I used to vote Labour, but I lost my faith in them after their gutless reaction to the Tampa incident. I joined the Greens immediately after that. I'm not very politically active, but I have done a bit of leafletting & handing out how to vote cards on election day.

Talk to LG. But I think he only uses pies.

He would be leading the counter-counterrevolution using mud pies ;).

Boonytopia: I went with greens shortly after I realised how bad state labor was (then how bad federal labor was).