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Would you be opposed to mandatory post mortem organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

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Would you be opposed to mandatory organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

Why do that when we can execute more murderers, afterwards, we have all the organs we need.

You mean mandatory post mortem organ donation, right?

I do have a problem with it. No one else should have a say in what happens to your body, whether you're living or dead.

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Would you be opposed to mandatory organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

I'm assuming you mean in the event of death? In that case, yes, of course. Dead people don't need organs, they obviously failed the person in one way or another and I doubt the dead person is going to be very forgiving anytime soon. *nod*

You mean mandatory post mortem organ donation, right?

Yes

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Would you be opposed to mandatory organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

I don´t see a problem with that either. If you´re dead, let others have a chance at life with your organs. It´s not like you´ll need them once the coffin´s shut. I am a donor, I carry Lifelink´s card everywhere.:)

I don't mind giving my body parts away after i'm dead to help others, but i can sort of understand those people who don't like it for religious or spiritual reasons.
Would be nice if we got some money for joining up instead of just donating though. I mean the money could go to your family.

I oppose mandatory organ donation.

I do not oppose an opt-out system of cadaveric organ donation. (In fact, I support moving to such a system.)

I don´t see a problem with that either. If you´re dead, let others have a chance at life with your organs. It´s not like you´ll need them once the coffin´s shut. I am a donor, I carry Lifelink´s card everywhere.:)

My thoughts exactly...

It's still your body, though. And I wouldn't want my organs going to someone undeserving of them.

It's still your body, though. And I wouldn't want my organs going to someone undeserving of them.

In the U.S. at least there are fairly strict requirements for staying on 'the list' to receive a transplant.

I oppose mandatory organ donation.

I do not oppose an opt-out system of cadaveric organ donation.

Agreed.

I oppose mandatory organ donation.

I do not oppose an opt-out system of cadaveric organ donation. (In fact, I support moving to such a system.)

This. It was suggested in the UK a while ago and I would support its introduction.

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Would you be opposed to mandatory post mortem organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

I personally probably wouldn't mind, because I don't believe my body is inherently sacred and should be preserved in a metal box for generations. But I think it would definitely infringe on the free exercise of religion, since some religions require the body to be buried intact.

Then again, I don't like it that the Mormons convert people after they die, even if I think it's a load of bull. I don't think it does anything to me, it's just annoying.

I wouldn't want my organs going to someone undeserving of them.

such as?

This. It was suggested in the UK a while ago and I would support its introduction.

I thought that went through?

I oppose mandatory organ donation.

I do not oppose an opt-out system of cadaveric organ donation. (In fact, I support moving to such a system.)

I feel the same way about this.

I feel the same way about this.

I would like to also state that I too feel the same way.

I don't want to force people to give up their organs. Rather just assume that people do want to. If they do not, then they can opt-out freely.

LOL

I don't think this many people have ever agreed with me on NSG.

*dies*

=)

I'd be opposed to it.

I'm a heartless jerk, I don't want to let others have my organs or blood to save their lives.

If they want it they can come fight me for them, that's all I'll say.
Likewise I expect to have to fight someone for an organ if I ever need it, unless they're stupid enough to give it to me freely.

They're putting "Organ donor" on the MSI cards here (MSI is the provincial health insurance) unless you fill out forms NOT to be one. I threw a shitfit last time I replaced my MSI card and made them not only remove it, but put a note on my file NEVER to put it on the card again.

And I will put in my will that anyone using my organs after I die is to be shot in the street.

I'd be opposed to it.

I'm a heartless jerk, I don't want to let others have my organs or blood to save their lives.

If they want it they can come fight me for them, that's all I'll say.
Likewise I expect to have to fight someone for an organ if I ever need it, unless they're stupid enough to give it to me freely.

They're putting "Organ donor" on the MSI cards here (MSI is the provincial health insurance) unless you fill out forms NOT to be one. I threw a shitfit last time I replaced my MSI card and made them not only remove it, but put a note on my file NEVER to put it on the card again.

And I will put in my will that anyone using my organs after I die is to be shot in the street.

This attitude I just don't get...
I can definitely understand people having a problem with it being mandatory, but this?
What possible use do you have for your organs after you've died?

I'm opposed to it, in the interests of those whose religion mandates that they be buried intact. As for myself, I am an organ donor so I have no issue on my own behalf.

This attitude I just don't get...
I can definitely understand people having a problem with it being mandatory, but this?
What possible use do you have for your organs after you've died?

Worm food. He/she´s thinking about the poor worms.:D

LOL

I don't think this many people have ever agreed with me on NSG.

*dies*

=)

i see another glitch in the matrix eh? must be the adaptions nationstates is going under, must be causing ripples in the time stream.
This is not acceptable agent Smith, indeed agent Smith i think it wise to destroy this upstart, agreed agent Smith.
*sound of dozens of feet marching across the thread*

This attitude I just don't get...
I can definitely understand people having a problem with it being mandatory, but this?
What possible use do you have for your organs after you've died?

The answer is clearly provided in the quote.

I'm a heartless jerk,

I have no problem with anyone having my organs after I die. I'll get a new body made for me after they unfreeze my head in the future.

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Would you be opposed to mandatory post mortem organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.
The hell with donation. People should be allowed to sell their organs pre-death.

Me, I've got a nice little Wurlitzer in the basement that I'm aching to sell.

It had to be posted. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tmLvzubP3I):D

So long as it's voluntary, suits me.

The recent case of doctors HASTENING a patient's death so they could harvest the organs is sure to have a chilling effect on people voluntarily becoming donors, though.

Personally, I'm planning to donate my organs, and then have my body cremated. However, if someone dosn't want their organs ripped out of their bodies, they shouldn't be forced to.

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Would you be opposed to mandatory post mortem organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

yes i would.

we are not owned by society to be spare parts for whoever needs them. voluntary donation is great, mandatory is not.

Yes, I am opposed to indiscriminate body harvesting.

Yes, I am opposed to indiscriminate body harvesting.

what if they gave consent to being harvested?

what if they gave consent to being harvested?

Now I feel like an orange...

Now I feel like an orange...

Don't worry it's just a phase, you'l soon go into the pineappple stage.
Mind you if you don't give consent to being harvested then i doubt you would be harvested, well unless *mumbles* so everyone is perfectly okay, as long as no one *mumbles some more*.
Orange is a colour, but the concept of orangeness is a noble calling only attempted by those who know it's true citrousy flavour...mmmm orange

Don't worry it's just a phase, you'l soon go into the pineappple stage.
Mind you if you don't give consent to being harvested then i doubt you would be harvested, well unless *mumbles* so everyone is perfectly okay, as long as no one *mumbles some more*.
Orange is a colour, but the concept of orangeness is a noble calling only attempted by those who know it's true citrousy flavour...mmmm orange

My my my, pineapple stage... Ummm... pineapples...

My my my, pineapple stage... Ummm... pineapples...

well it's really a euphemism for being a spiky and direct person but it's called pineapple stage for simplicity, its a very well known fact about human psychology i'm surprised you haven't heard of it yet.

well it's really a euphemism for being a spiky and direct person but it's called pineapple stage for simplicity, its a very well known fact about human psychology i'm surprised you haven't heard of it yet.

Wait... I imagine you´re joking... right?:eek:

Wait... I imagine you´re joking... right?:eek:

well i was then i tried to make it look serious in the hope you'd believe me, now i'm beginning to believe i'm in the mango stage oh no, i'm using fruit for human cognitive processes. halp.me.
*flounders in complex web of imaginary euphemisms*
Anyways back to the thread, as i said before i think organ donation is a good thing, and an opt-out system is a good alternative to the current one. well as long as you're out of the potatoe stage, otherwise you shoot off everywere and it gets ahhhhhhhh.:eek:

well i was then i tried to make it look serious in the hope you'd believe me, now i'm beginning to believe i'm in the mango stage oh no, i'm using fruit for human cognitive processes. halp.me.
*flounders in complex web of imaginary euphemisms*
Anyways back to the thread, as i said before i think organ donation is a good thing, and an opt-out system is a good alternative to the current one. well as long as you're out of the potatoe stage, otherwise you shoot off everywere and it gets ahhhhhhhh.:eek:

This is psychotic, you know! Now I can´t get out of my head the image of a huge pineapple plantation where giant pineapples with human heads are harvested for organ donation purposes.:eek:

This is psychotic, you know! Now I can´t get out of my head the image of a huge pineapple plantation where giant pineapples with human heads are harvested for organ donation purposes.:eek:

It happens all the time, the people i pity are those who are in those poor jobs taking spaghetti from the trees, poor spaghetti people.
It's very much covered up because no one can believe the apparent lack of human feeling.
It's not all bad though, some pineapple people live healthy lives and go on to make more pineapple people, very useful for if you're stuck on a desert island.

It happens all the time, the people i pity are those who are in those poor jobs taking spaghetti from the trees, poor spaghetti people.
It's very much covered up because no one can believe the apparent lack of human feeling.
It's not all bad though, some pineapple people live healthy lives and go on to make more pineapple people, very useful for if you're stuck on a desert island.

MHiJ, really, you´re a comedic genius.
ROFL!! ROFL!!
:D
I thank you for the laughs you just brought of me right now. Really, thank you so much!!
:D

MHiJ, really, you´re a comedic genius.
ROFL!! ROFL!!
:D
I thank you for the laughs you just brought of me right now. Really, thank you so much!!
:D

no sweat, thank you of course i'd like to take this moment to thank my inspirations of LG, Straughan, JuNii and many others i merely said what they were all thinking (well if they inhabited my body and experiences, lets hope that doesn't happen). But i feel a bit guilty nabbing the thread.
*nurses thread*
Now where's that smiley for feeling honoured?;)

Remember those pineapple people don't get put into those sweet fruit juice cartons for no reason, they must be remembered as pioneers of the future of human evolution.

no sweat, thank you of course i'd like to take this moment to thank my inspirations of LG, Straughan, JuNii and many others i merely said what they were all thinking (well if they inhabited my body and experiences, lets hope that doesn't happen). But i feel a bit guilty nabbing the thread.
*nurses thread*
Now where's that smiley for feeling honoured?;)

Remember those pineapple people don't get put into those sweet fruit juice cartons for no reason, they must be remembered as pioneers of the future of human evolution.

:D

You mean mandatory post mortem organ donation, right?

*packs bathtub with ice*

*roofies Tech-gnosis*

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>.>

o.0

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Would you be opposed to mandatory post mortem organ donation?


Me personally, I don't see a problem with it.

Yes, I would be opposed to mandatory organ donation upon death. Donating organs should be voluntary, if done at all.

Nope no problems there.

People are welcome to any of mine after I die

However, some may be in a worse state than the recipients ones thanks to alcohol and nicotine

I thought that went through?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7186007.stm

Seems the report on this issue will come out in the summer and then parliament will decide on something.

I oppose mandatory organ donation.

I do not oppose an opt-out system of cadaveric organ donation. (In fact, I support moving to such a system.)
I agree with this.


LOL

I don't think this many people have ever agreed with me on NSG.

*dies*

=)

I agree with this - apart from the "*dies*" - as well.


:p

I'd certainly support an opt-out system, where it's assumed you give your consent to organ donation, unless you have specifically said you don't want to.

I feel the same way about this.

I disagree entirely, and indeed have spoken in a debate about it. Briefly:

There are no circumstances where the government should assume that a citizen consents to something like that. Far too open to future abuse.

It wouldn't make much of a difference anyway. Spain has such a system, higher rate than UK. Also has much higher traffic accident rates. Other countries with presumed consent have lower rates. Seems, in general, to be more a function of death rates than of donation system.

Is entirely too likely that those who are more vulnerable will be unable to realise they are on the list and be removed from it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't really advertised.

One case that goes sour will lead to majorly bad publicity, and help undermine public confidence in the system.

One of the most important sources of information about the quality of organs is the family. If they are consulted, they'll think yes or no. If their wishes are taken into account, then no change from current system for those who haven't expressed a preference. Otherwise, see previous point.

For the record, I'm in the UK, and highly support organ donation. I just don't think that a system of presumed consent is a good idea. Apologies if this is unclear, I'm a little tired atm.

The hell with donation. People should be allowed to sell their organs pre-death.

Me, I've got a nice little Wurlitzer in the basement that I'm aching to sell.

Cheesy. Funny, but cheesy.

...out of curiosity, how much would you be willing to sell it for?

*packs bathtub with ice*

*roofies Tech-gnosis*

<.<

>.>

o.0

*wakes up with a sore ass*

hmmmm,,,, my asshole hurts but I have all my organs. What happed?

*wakes up with a sore ass*

hmmmm,,,, my asshole hurts but I have all my organs. What happed?

You really don't want to know...
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Smileys/Sinister.gif

I think consent to organ donation should be assumed unless the deceased gave written and notarized proof to the contrary before his or her death. (My opinion only, no facts assumed or citations given. You know who I'm talking to.)

You really don't want to know...

That's the last time I date Sarkhaan.

Yes, I am opposed to indiscriminate body harvesting.

what if they gave consent to being harvested?

Then it wouldn't be indiscriminate would it?