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If you had to ban one of these activities forever, which would it be and why?

Poll coming

Why would I want to? I'm not a fan of either one, but there's no justification for banning them.

Neither, and why would I?

We're assuming that one or the other must be banned...OP has been edited to reflect this.

Easy choice. Golf. Biggest waste of good land in history. They're wastes of energy, water and maintenance time all to abide some well-to-do business whores, the idols whose jockstraps they sniff and withered old retirees. Fuck golf.

"Have you ever watched golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck." -George Carlin

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Car racing. Even golf is more exciting.

Car racing. Even golf is more exciting.

I kind of like the crashes. You rarely see car fires in golf.

Car racing then.

Golf gets people out to exercise in fresh air, that can't be wrong. In car racing, there's only a handful of drivers actually doing the thing. All the others are just sitting on their butt watching, breathing in the fumes.

Why would I want to? I'm not a fan of either one, but there's no justification for banning them.Just assume there's some madman holding a gun to your head, and he will shoot you if you don't ban one of them.

I'm inclined to banning car racing; it seems like the bigger waste of resources and the larger impact on the environment.

I kind of like the crashes. You rarely see car fires in golf.

Well - we can still have car crashing as a sport then :)

Car racing then.

Golf gets people out to exercise in fresh air, that can't be wrong. In car racing, there's only a handful of drivers actually doing the thing. All the others are just sitting on their butt watching, breathing in the fumes.

That's why I like rally racing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz3Z9ZMLze4&NR=1

More audience participation. :)

Here's a corner where multiple cars go off....and off....and more go off....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiIYEmpWaaQ

Here's a corner where multiple cars go off....and off....and more go off....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiIYEmpWaaQ

That's why people watch the race there. :)

I only ever played golf once, after 3 hours sleep, with a bottle of Southern Comfort in the bag, at 7 o'clock on a very, very cold December morning.

So, golf, for having once disturbed my hangover. Well, it seems a good a reason as any.

I wouldn't want to ban either, but seeing as golf is incredibly boring, I'll have to ban it.

The golf-bashing makes me sad. In what other sport do you go to the countryside, drive in an awesome cart, hit a little ball around picturesque grounds, retire to the clubhouse to eat potato wedges and just kind of act like a snob?

Golf played properly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYBGl22uV-8

More: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6GfBqHjxZY&feature=related

:)

Easy choice. Golf. Biggest waste of good land in history. They're wastes of energy, water and maintenance time all to abide some well-to-do business whores, the idols whose jockstraps they sniff and withered old retirees. Fuck golf.

"Have you ever watched golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck." -George Carlin

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Everything I wanted to say is expressed much more clearly in this post.

Auto racing. It's more dangerous.

If you had to ban one of these activities forever, which would it be and why?

Poll comingOoh... tough choice. Both are quite boring. Racing pollutes more than golf, but golf tends to destroy more natural habitats. Then again, auto racing creates competition between the auto companies and gives an incentive and drive for becoming more fuel efficient. And racing doesn't have its own CNN International half hour program, whereas golf does.

Golf it is.

All this talk of golf has got me watching Caddyshack clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HrObCw1qGw

:)

golf, no hesitation, it's already one of the most pointless 'sports' in existence.

What the hell is with this golf bashing have any of you actually played golf? And if you have is the reason you don't like is because you weren't any good at it your first time.

I enjoy playing golf I love it watching golf can get boring but if you understand the game and know where the players are coming from and the different variables associated with it that adds to the difficulty.

As for motorsport well I am in a karting competition and is fun so I wouldn't ban that either, and I enjoy watching plenty of different motor sporting activities F1, Touring cars, Rallying, A1. Not NASCAR that is shit lets all go around in a circle 300 times yeah that's real racing bullshit. Typical Yanks take something good and change it around to some pansy shit a lot like American football, all decked out in protective gear bunch of pussies if you ask me. But I will stop ranting now.

As for the OP what is with just these two activities is their some reasoning behind them, you should have added more to the poll

Auto-racing. I find it useless, even when I adore Fernando Alonso. (Excúsame, Nano!!! Con to' y qui me cunde tu Mugat.)

Auto-racing. I find it useless, even when I adore Fernando Alonso. (Excúsame, Nano!!! Con to' y qui me cunde tu Mugat.)

Fernado Alonso is an arrogant prick

(Man I wish I could understand Spanish, and the translators on the Internet are no help at all, I know Nano is small but according to these sites there is no such word that has an English equivalent. And my roommate who is a Spaniard himself can't translate either)

Does anyone have a good web site I where I can translate foreign languages

Fernado Alonso is an arrogant prick

(Man I wish I could understand Spanish, and the translators on the Internet are no help at all, I know Nano is small but according to these sites there is no such word that has an English equivalent. And my roommate who is a Spaniard himself can't translate either)

Does anyone have a good web site I where I can translate foreign languages

Fernando Alonso is not an arrogant prick. Schumacher is a prick. Alonso is the pride and glory of Asturias. And your crappy translator and your 'gilipoya' Spanish friend can't translate because I was using Bable, Asturian, not Spanish. Oh, and Nano is a nickname for Fernando.

I kind of like the crashes. You rarely see car fires in golf.

You evidently aren't playing at the right places then.

Personally I'd ban racing. The tracks are biiig wastes of space, and the cars themselves are basically there just to pollute.

Golf is better for you, and not many people race, but millions (afaik) play golf.

If you had to ban one of these activities forever, which would it be and why?

Poll coming

Why didn't you include an option for both?

Golf is snore-tastic, and racing just goes around in the same fucking loop. Whoop-e-doo...

What the hell is with this golf bashing have any of you actually played golf? And if you have is the reason you don't like is because you weren't any good at it your first time.Never played, don't enjoy watching it. It's like tennis, only even more boring. Not that I'm asking to ban it, I'd be willing to let people play. Watching it and having CNN International dedicate a full segment to it is rather annoying (Living Golf... ha!... and Mainsail are the two most worthless segments they have on that channel). If I were forced to choose between banning that and car races, I'd choose the former.
I enjoy playing golf I love it watching golf can get boring but if you understand the game and know where the players are coming from and the different variables associated with it that adds to the difficulty.To the difficulty of watching it?
You evidently aren't playing at the right places then.

Personally I'd ban racing. The tracks are biiig wastes of space, and the cars themselves are basically there just to pollute.

Golf is better for you, and not many people race, but millions (afaik) play golf.I can imagine that race tracks take up similar amounts of space as golf courses do, except, as you pointed out, there's a whole lot more golf courses.

Tiger Woods notwithstanding, golf. Even more boring than curling and an ecological disaster.

Golf doesn't cause cancer in children the way automotive pollution does.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/61712.php

Golf doesn't cause cancer in children the way automotive pollution does.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/61712.phpHow will automotive pollution go away when you ban racing in cars?

... in what possible situation would I be forced to ban one of these forever?

I mean I just can't imagine. Usually with a hypothetical situation there's some sort of reason that makes it somewhat plausible in its own way.

Golf! Death to golf! I'd lynch it myself if I could http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgsombrero.gif

Fernando Alonso is not an arrogant prick. Schumacher is a prick. Alonso is the pride and glory of Asturias.

I'm sure he is the "pride and glory of Asturias" still doesn't mean that he isn't a prick, he goes to Mclaren and just because there is another driver who is as good as him and he doesn't get his way all the time and things are always even he has a cry and bitches about it. Oh and his little stunt in the pit lane during qualifying to stall Hamilton's chances of gaining pole was absolutely atrocious and that my friend is why he is a arrogant prick, he thinks he is the best and everyone should treat him like a god

Oh I agree with you Schumacher is a bit of a prick and certainly did do some questionable tactics which was just not on Monaco 2006 qualifying is one recent example (Just in case it changes anything I did not support Schumacher at all)

And your crappy translator and your 'gilipoya' Spanish friend can't translate because I was using Bable, Asturian, not Spanish. Oh, and Nano is a nickname for Fernando.

Whoa blow up next time why don't you, but that would explain why the translators don't pick up on it, since it is a separate language derived in Leon.

I am sure Nano is a nickname for Fernando, but is it also small in Spanish?

And what is gilipoya?

Why didn't you include an option for both?

Golf is snore-tastic, and racing just goes around in the same fucking loop. Whoop-e-doo...

What Kryo said...

To the difficulty of watching it?

I should have made myself clearer the difficulty of playing different variables such as wind, distance to the hole, location, the course layout, the type of ground the bll is resting on. All that and much more adds to the difficulty of the game. Understanding these makes watching the game much more enjoyable.

How will automotive pollution go away when you ban racing in cars?

Well, you see, the cars don't race, so they don't make the pollution. This reduces the overall pollution, reducing the overall rate of life-threatening lung diseases in children.

It's actually quite simple.

Well, you see, the cars don't race, so they don't make the pollution. This reduces the overall pollution, reducing the overall rate of life-threatening lung diseases in children.

It's actually quite simple.The overall pollution is actually increased, since the motor designers have less incentive to make better motors.

I'm sure he is the "pride and glory of Asturias" still doesn't mean that he isn't a prick, he goes to Mclaren and just because there is another driver who is as good as him and he doesn't get his way all the time and things are always even he has a cry and bitches about it. Oh and his little stunt in the pit lane during qualifying to stall Hamilton's chances of gaining pole was absolutely atrocious and that my friend is why he is a arrogant prick, he thinks he is the best and everyone should treat him like a god

Oh I agree with you Schumacher is a bit of a prick and certainly did do some questionable tactics which was just not on Monaco 2006 qualifying is one recent example (Just in case it changes anything I did not support Schumacher at all)



Whoa blow up next time why don't you, but that would explain why the translators don't pick up on it, since it is a separate language derived in Leon.

I am sure Nano is a nickname for Fernando, but is it also small in Spanish?

And what is gilipoya?

For blowing up I apologize. Seriously.

Again, to me Alonso isn't a prick, but I guess everyone's entitled to his own opinion.

Bable originated in Asturias, is a mix of Spanish with Portuguese. There's a variant called Astur-Leonese and also, there's Eonavian.

Nano is small in several languages, in Spanish we say "pequeño" or "chico". Nano is, however, a nickname for those named Fernando, or you can also use Nando or Ferni.

As for 'gilipoya', ask your Spanish roommate.;) I won't spoil that one for you.

Even though I lvoe golfing i would ban it. We have to keep racing so the hillbillies are distracted. If they aren't then life will be horrible. They will have nothign to do.

Easy choice. Golf. Biggest waste of good land in history. They're wastes of energy, water and maintenance time all to abide some well-to-do business whores, the idols whose jockstraps they sniff and withered old retirees. Fuck golf.

"Have you ever watched golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck." -George Carlin

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You know, I voted auto racing just for the sheer idiocy of it, but you're absolutely right about the land issue. My grandparents live near Palm Springs, and it's amazing and horrifying to me each time I go out there to see how many ridiculously huge, lush golf courses are pumped full of water so they can stay alive in a desert. Meanwhile my part of the state's been in a 'drought' for about 15 years.

Car golfing. No, golf racing! :p

I voted auto racing, just 'cause it doesn't entertain me. Kinda repetitive.

i grew up on a tiny island (9miles X 5) that has no less than 5 full size golf courses. fucking waste of space. and they're almost all members only so it's not even like they actually 'benefit' anyone besides the stupidly rich. there's one where in order to gain membership by the time you might want to learn your parents have to put you on the waiting list before you're even born. fucking pathetic.

I would ban Golf.

I would ban Golf because it's the single most overrated activity in human history (with the possible exception of watching 'Survivor' on TV.)

I would ban it because people treat it like it's a sport. It's not a sport, it's a game. (The difference? A 90 year old man with a bad heart can play Golf.)

...which wouldn't be so bad if Golf players weren't so pretentious about it.

In the last job I worked at, I was socially ostracized for having the temerity to express that opinion openly.

I'd ban it because if you were to add up the areas of all the golf courses in the United States, the result would be greater than the area of the State of Rhode Island. That much real estate could be put to better use.

*Bans both*

Ban both and implement a strange hybrid sport.

Ban both and implement a strange hybrid sport.

It could be the new demolition derby of the 21st Century.

Set up a driving range in the middle of the oval. Use nets to construct a corridor so that golf balls can be driven toward cars as they pass on teh straightaway.

Scoring:

-Ball hits car 10 pts.
-Ball damages car 50 pts.
-Ball goes in through driver's window 200 pts.
-Ball disables car 500 pts.
-Ball injures/disables driver 750 pts.
-Hit results in a crash 500 pts per car involved

THAT I would watch.

I'd ban it because if you were to add up the areas of all the golf courses in the United States, the result would be greater than the area of the State of Rhode Island. That much real estate could be put to better use.


The federal govt didnt dedicate lands to be golf sanctuaries- if land is needed for better uses, it will be eventually converted.

Is there some emergency need for land for communes?

And there are probably more important decisions being made on golf courses than in congress right now.

The federal govt didnt dedicate lands to be golf sanctuaries- if land is needed for better uses, it will be eventually converted.

Is there some emergency need for land for communes?

And there are probably more important decisions being made on golf courses than in congress right now.

Well I can't argue with that last...

Auto racing sucks up more gas, metal, and other things than golf does, wasting resources (well, I guess golf wastes land and water...:headbang:), but at least if you get rid of auto-racing, all of the danger is taken out of it, unlike golf, when there is no danger (fore!!!). But seriously, auto racing is just a bunch of speedsters who have nothing better to do than turn left for several hours.

Easy choice. Golf. Biggest waste of good land in history. They're wastes of energy, water and maintenance time all to abide some well-to-do business whores, the idols whose jockstraps they sniff and withered old retirees. Fuck golf.

"Have you ever watched golf on television? It's like watching flies fuck." -George Carlin

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My father and I are not "business whores". We play on municipal courses, not those private pieces of shit designed to cater to those who use golf as a pretext to meet and carve up the nation in smaller pieces among themselves (I am also a Carlin fan).

I would propose a partial ban:

1) No more than one private course within 50 miles of any other private course. No municipal courses within 25 miles of any other.

2) No courses of any kind if they cannot be sustained without using an unreasonable share of local water resources. I agree with the whole Palm Springs bullshit.

3) No more than one course where land is at a premium (publicly owned islands and the like).

Ooh... tough choice. Both are quite boring. Racing pollutes more than golf, but golf tends to destroy more natural habitats. Then again, auto racing creates competition between the auto companies and gives an incentive and drive for becoming more fuel efficient. And racing doesn't have its own CNN International half hour program, whereas golf does.

Golf it is.

You mean while at least replacing them with other green things rather than asphalt and bleachers, right?

Also, really? Is racing the ONLY incentive for companies to increase engine efficiency? I find that hard to believe.

The overall pollution is actually increased, since the motor designers have less incentive to make better motors.

Come on, really? I can't believe that.

It could be the new demolition derby of the 21st Century.

Set up a driving range in the middle of the oval. Use nets to construct a corridor so that golf balls can be driven toward cars as they pass on teh straightaway.

Scoring:

-Ball hits car 10 pts.
-Ball damages car 50 pts.
-Ball goes in through driver's window 200 pts.
-Ball disables car 500 pts.
-Ball injures/disables driver 750 pts.
-Hit results in a crash 500 pts per car involved

THAT I would watch.

Nice! Add a wrinkle: at random intervals, one ball is armed when it's hit and explodes like a small grenade on the next surface it contacts after being armed.

Both are boring to watch. However, since one requires at least some measure of skill, I vote to ban auto racing. I could be an auto racer with a decent car and a little attention to detail. I've tried to be good at golf and I still suck at it.

Ban Golf in Sheringham so the trains can go faster.

Ban Auto racing as it means there's less oil for proper uses, e.g. Tanks.

Ban Auto racing as it means there's less oil for proper uses, e.g. Tanks.

:confused:

:confused:

Oil will run out. Let's keep it for when we need it.

*Stockpiles for WWIII*

Why would I want to? I'm not a fan of either one, but there's no justification for banning them.

In my childhood when Star Trek was constantly getting pre-empted for one or the other I would have strongly disagreed with that statement. But in an age of digital cable?

eh, who cares.

I guess auto racing so that I don't have to hear anymore about those damned "Nascar Dads" who thought that the only thing you need to know about George W. Bush is that he lives on a farm and Kerry lives in a mansion.

If you get rid of golf all that happens is billionaires have to find a more athletic hobby, and get in better shape and live longer.

Golf, it's a boring game for old men who wear bad clothes.

Wow, what a hard decision. I'm gonna err on the side of golf and ban auto racing which is not even remotely athletic. At least in golf you walk around a bit...

Golf. Golf is indescribably boring, and because of the obvious frustrations associated with it, is more dangerous, because of the heart-attacks it causes amongst the old or middle-aged men who play golf. Therefore, golf is the more deadly of the two, and should be banned.

Wow, what a hard decision. I'm gonna err on the side of golf and ban auto racing which is not even remotely athletic. At least in golf you walk around a bit...

Ever heard of the golfcart? That pretty much removes that argument for golf. I think its time for you to fall back on the age-old method of decision making, a time-honored tradition employed by President Bush... Eeny-meeny-miney-mo! :D

It could be the new demolition derby of the 21st Century.

Set up a driving range in the middle of the oval. Use nets to construct a corridor so that golf balls can be driven toward cars as they pass on teh straightaway.

Scoring:

-Ball hits car 10 pts.
-Ball damages car 50 pts.
-Ball goes in through driver's window 200 pts.
-Ball disables car 500 pts.
-Ball injures/disables driver 750 pts.
-Hit results in a crash 500 pts per car involved

THAT I would watch.

YOU WIN!!!!!

like, as in, the thread. You win the thread. That's it.

does car racing, include ALL car racing or just NASCAR. If it's only NASCAR, then Golf should stay.

Golf gets people out to exercise in fresh air, that can't be wrong. In car racing, there's only a handful of drivers actually doing the thing. All the others are just sitting on their butt watching, breathing in the fumes.
It's not exercise to stand for twenty seconds, swing your arms less than you would to stretch, then sit down in a car and drive 100 yards/metres or so. Nor is it exercise to leisurely stroll that same distance while you force some kid to carry a 70 pound/30 kg bag for your amusement--that's just servile assery.

For the record, the only thing I've ever seen more boring that golf on television (and keep in mind that I regularly watch soccer, football, or whatever you want to call it) was rained-out golf on television, when the network didn't have any rights to broadcast a movie or something as backup. They literally left a camera on the fairway (presumably under an umbrella) and just pointed it at some trees while it rained.

Motor racing is massively beneficial for road car safety, design, and efficiency.

Well, motor racing that isn't a single type series. IRL, CART, NASCAR etc. are single type series (or as near as). Le Mans, F1, WRC, etc. aren't single type series. The competition between the various manufacturers brings technological advances that often eventually work their way to road cars.

Golf does nothing. And I play golf, and enjoy golf, but I'd ban it long before I'd ban motor racing (although, can we get rid of NASCAR, please?)

Golf. Watching people kill themselves going from 200 to 0 in 3 seconds flat is funny.

Whichever you ban, criminals are going to do it anyway.

People already drag race on public roads, so nothing much would change there.
But we could do without criminals teeing off from concealed locations. Golf balls are pretty dangerous!

PING!!!

Oh no! Another drive-by golfing!

Not a fan of either (both are incredibly boring to watch, especially golf, although I concede seeing bad shots are hilarious) nor am I for banning either (except from TV, but I'm afraid I don't have much of a say in that...), but if I *had* to pick one, it'd be auto racing only because it's more dangerous.

By the way, while we're on the subject of golf- anyone else find it ridiculous there's a dress code?

It could be the new demolition derby of the 21st Century.

Set up a driving range in the middle of the oval. Use nets to construct a corridor so that golf balls can be driven toward cars as they pass on teh straightaway.

Scoring:

-Ball hits car 10 pts.
-Ball damages car 50 pts.
-Ball goes in through driver's window 200 pts.
-Ball disables car 500 pts.
-Ball injures/disables driver 750 pts.
-Hit results in a crash 500 pts per car involved

THAT I would watch.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

Bah, ban both!

Wow, what a hard decision. I'm gonna err on the side of golf and ban auto racing which is not even remotely athletic. At least in golf you walk around a bit...

It seems like someone has never competed in a top professional motor racing event nor knows anything about it. Motor racing is extremely difficult on the physical bodies of the drivers and in order to compete you need to be atheltic and very fit. The Formula One race was held in Malayaisa this weekend and during the race the drivers lost 3-4kgs, if you aren't fit then there is no way you would be able to survive the race, not to mention the g-forces that are experienced by the drivers you need to be fit to be able to withstand that for 1.5-2 hours.

Both are boring to watch. However, since one requires at least some measure of skill, I vote to ban auto racing. I could be an auto racer with a decent car and a little attention to detail. I've tried to be good at golf and I still suck at it.

I wonder what you are referring to as to which sport requires skill, both do but as I think you are saying that motor racing doesn't require skill (feel free to correct me) allow me to refute that misconception. It requires a lot of skill to race, and I am not talking about that shit americans classify as racing (read: NASCAR) to be able to determine where to break, accelarate, turn and overtake opponents. In regards to racing anyone can go fast but it takes a lot of skill to go quick.

An internet forum, NSG no less, bashing various activities for not offering exercise?

epic lulz

I like both. But if I have to make a choice I would ban auto racing. It's noisy and pollutes the air. :p

ban golf. its far too enviromentally sensetive, its got a minimal carbon footprint, and its the only thing which stops fat lazy bussinessmen from having heart attacks... and think of the social housing we could build on these otherwise useless spaces. in fact why dont we build a F1 track on every golf course. think of the revenue... think of all them fatties flopping down dead...

:upyours:MORON!!!! You didn't include a "both" option.