Friendly Dolphins
Mott Haven
18-03-2008, 21:01
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/01/25/eadolphin125.xml
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.
At least, now we know that violence like this isn't strictly a "human" thing.
Food for thought: Since we have also learned that Chimps (yes, even bonobos)have episodes of extreme brutality, and that makes the 4 most intelligent species on this planet, what are the odds that any extraterrestrial intelligence we ever encounter will be the virtuous paragon of pacifism that we hope it would be?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/01/25/eadolphin125.xml
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.
At least, now we know that violence like this isn't strictly a "human" thing.
Food for thought: Since we have also learned that Chimps (yes, even bonobos)have episodes of extreme brutality, and that makes the 4 most intelligent species on this planet, what are the odds that any extraterrestrial intelligence we ever encounter will be the virtuous paragon of pacifism that we hope it would be?
Slim to none
Dostanuot Loj
18-03-2008, 21:34
I wait for someone to come into this thread and say that they're only becomming viloent from Human influence, especially that bad TV and rap music.
I mean someone other then me, who actually believs that.
I wait for someone to come into this thread and say that they're only becomming viloent from Human influence, especially that bad TV and rap music.
Its not rap, dolphins listen to Metalcore...
Vaklavia
18-03-2008, 21:39
'So long and thanks for all the fish.....motherfucker.'
Ultraviolent Radiation
18-03-2008, 21:42
Food for thought: Since we have also learned that Chimps (yes, even bonobos)have episodes of extreme brutality, and that makes the 4 most intelligent species on this planet, what are the odds that any extraterrestrial intelligence we ever encounter will be the virtuous paragon of pacifism that we hope it would be?
You're assuming that the nature of creatures doesn't change again at a higher level? After all, it's not very intelligent to constantly be at war as it uses lots of resources and has high risk.
The Alma Mater
18-03-2008, 21:45
You're assuming that the nature of creatures doesn't change again at a higher level? After all, it's not very intelligent to constantly be at war as it uses lots of resources and has high risk.
But war does cause progress. Quite a lot of our spaceprogrammes for instance have benefitted greatly from research into weapons technology. Like missiles.
Hmmm - a Shadow vs Vorlon argument. Who wins ;)
Ultraviolent Radiation
18-03-2008, 21:52
Hmmm - a Shadow vs Vorlon argument. Who wins ;)
What are you talking about?
The Alma Mater
18-03-2008, 21:55
What are you talking about?
It's a reference to the babylon 5 tvseries. One of the major plotlines was the philosophy war between the ancient Shadow and Vorlon races.
The Shadows believed that strive and conflict were the key to progress for the younger races.
The Vorlons believed in "peaceful guidance" of the "do as we tell you" type.
Ultraviolent Radiation
18-03-2008, 21:59
It's a reference to the babylon 5 tvseries. One of the major plotlines was the philosophy war between the ancient Shadow and Vorlon races.
The Shadows believed that strive and conflict were the key to progress for the younger races.
The Vorlons believed in "peaceful guidance" of the "do as we tell you" type.
Hmm. Maybe I'll have to check that out some time.