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Of course this is a publicity stunt by Guiness. However should St Patrick's Day be a US national holiday?

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No. I don't even think it should be considered a real holiday. If you don't celebrate with family or friends, enjoy a good meal, receive (or give) gifts, or get the day off, it's not a holiday. Period. That's my opinion, anyway.

I like public holidays, you get paid double and a half more if you work on them.

It has like 0 significance outside of drunk Irish and elementary school...

I like public holidays, you get paid double and a half more if you work on them.

I mean, this is where I agree - while I see absolutely no argument for elevating the Irish and giving them a specific holiday outside of Ireland, I'm simply not going to vote against a free holiday.

It has like 0 significance outside of drunk Irish and elementary school...

We can't throw the drunk Irish a bone every once in awhile?

No. I don't even think it should be considered a real holiday. If you don't celebrate with family or friends, enjoy a good meal, receive (or give) gifts, or get the day off, it's not a holiday. Period. That's my opinion, anyway.

So, if we got the day off for St. Patrick's day, that'd make it a 'real' holiday? :p

I can think of more than a few holidays which don't bring any kind of celebration or giftgiving, after all - MLK Day, Labor Day, Presidents' Day, Columbus Day, etc. etc.

So, if we got the day off for St. Patrick's day, that'd make it a 'real' holiday? :p

I can think of more than a few holidays which don't bring any kind of celebration or giftgiving, after all - MLK Day, Labor Day, Presidents' Day, Columbus Day, etc. etc.

Wasn't Labor Day the other week?

drunk IrishIsn't that what life really is about?

Wasn't Labor Day the other week?

Not in this country, no. It's in September sometime.

So, if we got the day off for St. Patrick's day, that'd make it a 'real' holiday? :p

Probably.

First of all, the drinking, although loads of fun is not the sole purpose fo St. Patty's, it's a celebration of faith and pride among other things. We dont exchange gifts, or have a nice meal on Martin Luther King Jr. day, but thats considered a holiday, why?..Because it holds some meaning to people, it's a rememberance of ideals and sacrifice, same as St. Patty's Day.

I drink any time I want, who needs an excuse like st patties day?

I drink any time I want, who needs an excuse like st patties day?

Cause on St Patrick's day you get a "Kiss me I'm Irish" button.

Don't forget pinching butts if one is wearing no green.

No, the USA does not need yet one more official National Holiday, because if we do that, all the schools will start letting students out on a break, and let's face it, American school years are short enough already.

Besides, and this is not meant as an insult, since when have American adults needed an excuse to drink?

No, the USA does not need yet one more official National Holiday, because if we do that, all the schools will start letting students out on a break, and let's face it, American school years are short enough already.

Besides, and ths is not meant as an insult, since when have American adults needed an excuse to drink?

You are right. We can exclude schools and government workers from the program. Also bank employees for that matter. Everyone else in to their cars and off to the bars for drinking and singing.

Besides, and this is not meant as an insult, since when have American adults needed an excuse to drink?

Not exactly need... but I won't refuse one!

Besides, and this is not meant as an insult, since when have American adults needed an excuse to drink?

1920-1933?

Not exactly need... but I won't refuse one!

Heh. Fair enough. I don't drink, myself, but I don't hold the habit against the men and women who do, so long as it's done sensibly.

1920-1933?

No, what you needed then was not an excuse, but a really good hiding place.

First of all, the drinking, although loads of fun is not the sole purpose fo St. Patty's, it's a celebration of faith and pride among other things. We dont exchange gifts, or have a nice meal on Martin Luther King Jr. day, but thats considered a holiday, why?..Because it holds some meaning to people, it's a rememberance of ideals and sacrifice, same as St. Patty's Day.

It's a remembrance of sacrifice by the Celts being slaughtered and run out by the Church. Which really has nothing to do with being Irish, wearing green or drinking beer. The day has become about Irish-Americans, not religion.

Which is not to say that it's still not a good holiday for celebrating Ireland with beer. ;) And now I'll get off my mini pagan rant.

if it was to become a national holiday i am sure the name would have to be changed, even though it has very very little to do with religion now, there would still be some opposed to it being named after a saint

only if columbus day gets renamed indiginous people's day and celebrated as such.

actually i see no problem with green and eirie day, but it out to be called de danu day or saint druids day or something like that.

the problem with saints is that they mostly tend to have been a bunch of bloodthirty military bastards who only got sainted because the were on the side of the 'christian' insurgency into western europe.

and the only bloody snakes were there for him to have supposedly chaised out were the ones he got to seein after drinking too much of that single malt eirish "water"

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It has like 0 significance outside of drunk Irish and elementary school...

Like, really?

only if columbus day gets renamed indiginous people's day and celebrated as such.


Hah! :p Maybe for 200$ in chips, I'd go along with it. ;)

The United States works longer and harder than just about any other industrialized nation in the world. We could use one extra holiday. *nod*

Let's do a swap. You can have St Patrick if we can have Jodie Foster.

if it was to become a national holiday i am sure the name would have to be changed, even though it has very very little to do with religion now, there would still be some opposed to it being named after a saint

Nah, there's plenty of leeway regarding the whole church/state thing. I doubt the courts could do anything if St. Patrick's day were made a holiday.

Let's do a swap. You can have St Patrick if we can have Jodie Foster.

Who's 'we,' and why on Earth would you want her? :p

No. I don't even think it should be considered a real holiday. If you don't celebrate with family or friends, enjoy a good meal, receive (or give) gifts, or get the day off, it's not a holiday. Period. That's my opinion, anyway.
We do spend it with family and/or friends, and enjoy a good meal.



Not surprisingly, Suffolk County, MA (which includes Boston, Revere, Chelsea, and Winthrop) has established a county holiday on March 17th (Evacuation Day), giving people the day off.

St Patricks Day - when Americans celebrate all things Irish by dressing up as Scotsmen.

First of all, the drinking, although loads of fun is not the sole purpose fo St. Patty's, it's a celebration of faith and pride among other things. We dont exchange gifts, or have a nice meal on Martin Luther King Jr. day, but thats considered a holiday, why?..Because it holds some meaning to people, it's a rememberance of ideals and sacrifice, same as St. Patty's Day.


My Irish In-Laws pretty much drink the whole day, from about 10:00 am to well after midnight, although we usually leave the bar at about 11:00 pm. I gotta say, I've never seen more than a token display of Irish Nationalism from them (I assume thats the pride you are refering too, if not, feel free to smack me around some), and nothing about faith. Its all about the drinking. This, as a Polack, is something I'm all for.

As for the original question...

My Polish family doesn't celebrate St. Kasmirs, and my attempts at starting St. Kowloski's day have been totally unsucessful, so If I don't get a "Polish" holiday, no "Irish" holiday, Pthhhhhh!

Sure- if there is a Martin Luther King day as a national holiday, there should be a St.Patrick's Day as well.

Of course this is a publicity stunt by Guiness. However should St Patrick's Day be a US national holiday?

http://www.proposition317.com/index.html

No

No. I don't even think it should be considered a real holiday. If you don't celebrate with family or friends, enjoy a good meal, receive (or give) gifts, or get the day off, it's not a holiday. Period. That's my opinion, anyway.

Ridiculous! St Patrick's day is all about celebrating with family and friends and having a great meal. I think it should be a national holiday everywhere, especially here in NZ where for most people it practically is a holiday anyway.

Eh, if you're going to make St. Patrick's Day an official holiday, you might as well make it mandatory to wear green on March 17. That way people like me who wear orange on that day can become criminals!!! LOL

(Actually, I do wear orange on St. Patrick's Day just to see the reactions of the two or three people I will see who know why I choose to wear orange over green.)

My Polish family doesn't celebrate St. Kasmirs, and my attempts at starting St. Kowloski's day have been totally unsucessful, so If I don't get a "Polish" holiday, no "Irish" holiday, Pthhhhhh!

You get Pulaski Day in a few towns across the country. He wasn't a saint, but it's a holiday, isn't it? ;)

Actually, I like the idea of St. Kasmir's (Part Polish, Part Irish, and a handful of others) as well as St. Patty's.

Why St. Patrick's Day? Simple. The Irish freaking built the United States. Granted, after they had trickled off, the Poles came in, and so continued the work, thus necessitating a St. Kasmir's Day. But the important thing is that the very large group of Irish-Americans deserve a day when their contributions to the U.S. can be recognized. If not a month. I'm actually in favor of March as "Irish-American History Month."

Plus, I do loves the Guinness with me lamb and potato stew. A meal to truly live for.

Oh, and the wearing of orange should be criminalized on March 17 unless accompanied by Green. Orange alone = Anti-catholic, so you might as well dress in white robes and burn crosses. Green and Orange together = promotion of peace and toleration between peoples of different backgrounds and faiths. Green alone = on March 17, support of the Irish American.

Why St. Patrick's Day? Simple. The Irish freaking built the United States. Granted, after they had trickled off, the Poles came in, and so continued the work, thus necessitating a St. Kasmir's Day. But the important thing is that the very large group of Irish-Americans deserve a day when their contributions to the U.S. can be recognized. If not a month. I'm actually in favor of March as "Irish-American History Month."

Eh. Nothing against the Irish, but no single type of immigrant 'built' the country - the wave of Irish in the late 19th to early 20th century was significant, but the country was clearly well-established by then. :p Also, we already have a well-established Polish holiday, which is Kazimir Pulaski day, named for the war hero.

No. The last thing we need is to assign holidays based on ethnicity or saints.

It has like 0 significance outside of drunk Irish and elementary school...Drunk elementary school?

Wasn't Labor Day the other week?No, that's May 1st.

Let's do a swap. You can have St Patrick if we can have Jodie Foster.:eek: You're John Hinckley?

Roll on Paddy's day for all. Its not a "proper" holiday here, I'm expected to go to classes and such, but that ain't happening. Oh no, I'm going to the pub in the late afternoon, lunch comes first.And no even though I'm going down the pub I'm not treating this like a day to get smashed (well not only), I've been invited to join in with an Irish families lunch so I feel rather privileged.

Make it a proper holiday, I don't like missing classes, but will for such an occasion.

Actually, I like the idea of St. Kasmir's (Part Polish, Part Irish, and a handful of others) as well as St. Patty's.

Please stop calling it that. Please?

The word is Paddy's not Patty's.

Oh, and the wearing of orange should be criminalized on March 17 unless accompanied by Green. Orange alone = Anti-catholic, so you might as well dress in white robes and burn crosses. Green and Orange together = promotion of peace and toleration between peoples of different backgrounds and faiths. Green alone = on March 17, support of the Irish American.

God I fucking hate Irish Americans the most.

Ahhh Paddy's day the time for plastic Paddy's to put on their green suits and get twatted!

Long may it reign!

Green alone = on March 17, support of the Irish American.

Or just the Irish. No Irish Americans here :p

*proudly declares :p to be the green smiley of the day*

Of course, according to the Church St Patricks day was the 15th.

Or just the Irish. No Irish Americans here :p

*proudly declares :p to be the green smiley of the day*

:rolleyes: smiley is :rolleyes:.

Or, alternatively, :gundge: :gundge: :gundge:

Surely the day after St Patricks Day would be better for a holiday, since people would get the day off to get over their hangovers? :p

Surely the day after St Patricks Day would be better for a holiday, since people would get the day off to get over their hangovers? :p

But that was a sunday this year :p

But that was a sunday this year :p

Huh? but Paddy's day is today, a Monday!

Huh? but Paddy's day is today, a Monday!

Nope - the RC church moved it back to saturday to not have the feast in the week before easter.

Not that anyone in Ireland cares ;)