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That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?

Just drink beer. And whisky. Lots and lots of whiskey. That will be your way of showing Irish pide.

A nail bomb might be a bit too lethal/disfiguring for your tastes. Perhaps a nerf bomb?

Corned beef pizza!

Sounds good to me - you've got the beef in there, and the exponential fungal growth of the yeast is kinda symbolic of the Irish. :p That's what I'd do. :)

Thank god someone else doesn't like corned beef and cabbage! And St. Patrick's Day is right before my birthday, too. >_<

You could try making traditional fried potato pancakes. I've never had the Irish kind (boxty), but I've had plenty of latkes and I approve of anything with a lot of potato in it.

A cartoon I wish I could find:

Grandma: for St. Patrick's Day, let's listen to the pipes and eat corned beef and cabbage!

Kid: how about we listen to U-2 and eat Lucky Charms?

Any ideas?

Become vegetarian for a day. Veggies are very green, aren't they? The perfect St. Paddy's day chow. :D

Become vegetarian for a day. Veggies are very green, aren't they? The perfect St. Paddy's day chow. :D

Every time you pick up a vegetable and move it toward your lips, I want you to picture THIS (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/thadrunkchick/richardsimmons1xr6rq1.jpg).

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif

Every time you pick up a vegetable and move it toward your lips, I want you to picture THIS (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/thadrunkchick/richardsimmons1xr6rq1.jpg).

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif

To be honest... the vegetables kind of overwhelm the subject... so, no problem! :)

http://www.designmom.com/uploaded_images/green-peeps-700234.jpg

That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?

Well, you may feel better to learn that corned beef is not actually a traditional Irish food. I never ate it until I moved to America.

Corned beef is an effort to approximate Irish bacon, which is a ham cured the same way bacon is. I hate cabbage, but when they're all cooked together and the moisture seeps out of the cabbage mingling with the juices of the bacon and big chunks of carrot, and then the result is ladled over mashed potatoes...

mmm, yummy.

Po-ta-toes... P-p-p-p-po-ta-toes.

http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1948,156170-234200,00.html

I thought all the Irish ever ate was potatoes :p

I'm going to try Irish soda bread this year due to extreme lack of corned beef in Japan (Though, as pointed out, corned beef isn't what the Irish ate).

But... LG... all I can say about your disrespect to one of the best meals on the planet is to profess extreme sadness and arrange an air strike with corned beef and cabbage.

Take potatoes and soak them in whiskey.

That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?

I haven't read the entire thread yet, so I don't know if this has been posted. But give this a try, to show your Irish pride on St. Patty's Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_car_bomb

Become vegetarian for a day. Veggies are very green, aren't they? The perfect St. Paddy's day chow. :D

Veggies are what food eats. :D

That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?
Beef tongue. Oh wait, you wanted it to suck LESS. Sorry.

Corned beef and cabbage isn't Irish. It's Irish American.

It's not an Irish "dish", and it's probably never been eaten in Ireland.

Corned beef and cabbage isn't Irish. It's Irish American.

It's not an Irish "dish", and it's probably never been eaten in Ireland.

Lucky bastards. :p

Then what is a traditional Irish food?

I'm going to try Irish soda bread this year due to extreme lack of corned beef in Japan (Though, as pointed out, corned beef isn't what the Irish ate).

But... LG... all I can say about your disrespect to one of the best meals on the planet is to profess extreme sadness and arrange an air strike with corned beef and cabbage.

Air strike huh? Is this really a direction you want to go in with me? ;)

Lucky bastards. :p

Then what is a traditional Irish food?

Depends what part of Ireland you want.

You could go with an Ulster fry. It's a winner everywhere.

God luck getting hold of soda or potato bread though.

Take potatoes and soak them in whiskey.

Ha ha, if this isn't an Irish recipe then it should be - I wonder if you can make a kind of glazed potato with whiskey in some way...

*plots*

I would say that, given it's you, then a pie is simply a must and the only pie I can think of is Beef and Guinness pie.

Make two and throw the second at the first person in your family to say 'Oh, I thought we were going to eat corned beef and cabbage'.

Air strike huh? Is this really a direction you want to go in with me? ;)
I think I'm safe, it's raining so hard over here right now that I don't think anyone would notice anymore mud. ;)

I haven't read the entire thread yet, so I don't know if this has been posted. But give this a try, to show your Irish pride on St. Patty's Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_car_bomb

You're the first. I know because I read the thread hoping I would be the first. :(

That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?

Irish soda bread, of course.

And your problem with corned beef and cabbage is that the recipe wasn't inspired. Putting a big chunk of corned beef in a pot of water with cabbage and potatoes doesn't work well for anyone.

So, just for you -

Corned beef and cabbage a la Budd (a friend of mine from RenFaire)

Put corned beef in large kettle, cover with Guinness, simmer until tender. Cook cabbage, etc (if you must have them) separately.

Corned beef and cabbage a la ASD

Put corned beef in large kettle, cover with vegetable stock and good red wine, simmer until tender. Cook cabbage, etc., separately.

Irish soda bread, of course.

And your problem with corned beef and cabbage is that the recipe wasn't inspired. Putting a big chunk of corned beef in a pot of water with cabbage and potatoes doesn't work well for anyone.

So, just for you -

Corned beef and cabbage a la Budd (a friend of mine from RenFaire)

Put corned beef in large kettle, cover with Guinness, simmer until tender. Cook cabbage, etc (if you must have them) separately.

Corned beef and cabbage a la ASD

Put corned beef in large kettle, cover with vegetable stock and good red wine, simmer until tender. Cook cabbage, etc., separately.


Lovely. :)

According to our local 'Irish' pub, you could have 'Irish' 'Nachos'.

Irish soda bread, of course.

And your problem with corned beef and cabbage is that the recipe wasn't inspired. Putting a big chunk of corned beef in a pot of water with cabbage and potatoes doesn't work well for anyone.

So, just for you -

Corned beef and cabbage a la Budd (a friend of mine from RenFaire)

Put corned beef in large kettle, cover with Guinness, simmer until tender. Cook cabbage, etc (if you must have them) separately.

Corned beef and cabbage a la ASD

Put corned beef in large kettle, cover with vegetable stock and good red wine, simmer until tender. Cook cabbage, etc., separately.
Adding to that, my family has always cooked our corned beef in apple cider, or apple juice if cider (The non-alcoholic version) isn't available. Use a slower cooker (crock pot) for it and keep it going all day long, it'll come out perfectly.

According to our local 'Irish' pub, you could have 'Irish' 'Nachos'.

Hah. I kinda like Hennesey's when I lived nearer to the beach. :p

Lucky bastards. :p

Then what is a traditional Irish food?

Whatever you could get.

The Crubeen however, while not nesseciarly unique, is "traditional".

Lucky bastards. :p

Then what is a traditional Irish food?

Boxty, champ, colcannon, Irish stew. How about oysters served with soda bread and Guiness

Corn chowder, Bangers and Mashed, being oppressed by the British.

Depends what part of Ireland you want.

You could go with an Ulster fry. It's a winner everywhere.

God luck getting hold of soda or potato bread though.

Ulster Fries are awesome. I would also suggest stew.

I like BBQ brisket, but when its made as "Corned beef"- just make a hot dog- save some time and money-it tastes the same.

I like a Black & Tan made with Guinness and Bass

I like a Black & Tan made with Guinness and Bass

Generally saying you are fond of the Black and Tans is not going to make you popular in parts of Ireland...

thats ok- I'm not running for office there.

Lasagne

They are not Irish, but who cares?

That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?

YOURE IRISH!
*adds it to list on Lunatic Goofballs* *mutters* soon i shall i have enough information to create an army of LG clones, *evil laugh* and then i will rule the world!

Every time you pick up a vegetable and move it toward your lips, I want you to picture THIS (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/thadrunkchick/richardsimmons1xr6rq1.jpg).

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-024.gif

that was nasty

Generally saying you are fond of the Black and Tans is not going to make you popular in parts of Ireland...

But the Irish come out on top!

But the Irish come out on top!

Its something they were given papal approval for, after all.

Take potatoes and soak them in whiskey.
This sounds like a good solution.

I suppose you could try a sort of pie and have some sprouts and potato with it.
I've never heard of corned beef being an Irish delicacy, probably more a market fad to get rid of the amount of corned beef in stock.
Or you could get really really drunk?

Generally saying you are fond of the Black and Tans is not going to make you popular in parts of Ireland...

..unless you're in the Shankle.

I've just realised that I have no idea how to spell that.

That title isn't a judgement on Irish food. It's a judgement on a family tradition I would like to leave in the dust. That tradition? Corned beef and cabbage on March 17th. *shudder*
Every March 17th, my mom made corned beef and cabbage. Apparently, my wife suffered a similar fate(whoa! A third generation police oficer with irish ancestry? Get out!).

So that leaves me, a staunch anti-traditionalist, certified chaotic and cooking hobbyist wondering if there's anything else Irish I can make on March 17th that might not suck as horribly as corned beef and cabbage.

Any ideas?

I like corned beef, but cabbage is nasty and it stinks!
http://c1.vse.lv/img/smiles/smileyPuking.gif

Now, here's a recipe that might be better than the traditional cb and cabbage.
http://www.irelandseye.com/aarticles/culture/recipes/cooking/mutton.shtm

Soda bread is very yummy, but I don't know where my recipe for it is, sadly. I suggest googling.

..unless you're in the Shankle.

I've just realised that I have no idea how to spell that.

Shankill.

And I guess it's more likely that the response will be "Huh? Who?".

I thought all the Irish ever ate was potatoes :p

Once upon a time it was the only food that the English left them to eat. That's why so many people died during the potato famine.

The Irish grew wheat, barley, cabbage, carrots, oats, apples, pears etc. But the English made money selling those things in other countries, and the Irish, living under the yoke of oppression, didn't have any with which to buy back the crops they grew.

The English argued that it was wrong to interfere with the free market, and refused to allow any aid because they thought that charity would breed dependence.

You know... Same crap genocidal conservatives argue now.

I've never heard of corned beef being an Irish delicacy, probably more a market fad to get rid of the amount of corned beef in stock.Or you could get really really drunk?

Like I said, Corned Beef isn't Irish. I was largely raised in Ireland and never ate corned beef until I moved to New York. When the Irish came here the closest thing to Irish dinner bacon was ham, which tastes like soft rubber when compared to dinner bacon (they don't call it dinner bacon BTW, I just don't want to confuse it with those sad little strips that Americans eat with eggs). But it's the same cut, and when the Irish made it here in big numbers, the cut of pork that is used to make it was already heavily in demand for ham.

Rather than fight it out for the established brand of cured dinner pork, they just started curing beef the way they used to cure hams. Which isn't very good when done to beef.

LG, if you ever make it to Ireland, try bacon for dinner.