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Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

It might come down to the social acceptability of sex vs. violence in America. Remember it was the unlockable screw-the-girlfriend minigame in San Andreas that caused the biggest cry, not the shooting people with Tec9's.

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

One is a president doing what he feels is best for the country - regardless of what you think - the other is a governor screwing around for his own personal pleasure.

I'm not sure he was forced to resign, there was no court order saying he had to leave. If he's had the balls to say 'I couldn't care less, I'm staying right here to do my job' then no one could have done anything except not re-elect him.

Ya could have done the same with GWB ya know.

Am I missing something?

Yes.
I think you have to do more than 'see' prostitutes.

Otherwise I would be in jail.. I see 'em when I wake up, when I surf the internet, when I go to bed, when I get hit too hard with blunt objects, when I mourn for the loss of the sheep in the meadows and the blue skies, when I play a song 'cause I'm the piano man, when I hoe the fields and till the soils, and when I filter the water for my coffee and tuck my children into bed at night, and when I brush my teeth with no toothpaste because I can't afford it, and also when I type on NSG like right now there are prostitutes dancing across the screen all smiling, and usually when I have lunch or go to a movie or enter any sort of room, and mainly when I read poetry or write poetry and maybe novels, and sometimes when I type long passages like this and wonder if anyone is going to read the whole thing and also wonder if these prostitutes are female or not since I can't see through the whiskey haze, honestly.

one is illegal the other isnt.

*starts illegal war and kills a million prostitutes...after seeing them*



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*dies of AIDS*

*starts illegal war and kills a million prostitutes...after seeing them*



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*dies of AIDS*



You see the South Park tonight? :p

You see the South Park tonight? :p

No...which one was it, "Jared has Aides"?

No...which one was it, "Jared has Aides"?

New episode. Cartmen gets AIDS through a blood transfusion and the cure turns out to be cash, about 180k, injected into your bloodstream.


Ill let you disect that symbolism;)

New episode. Cartmen gets AIDS through a blood transfusion and the cure turns out to be cash, about 180k, injected into your bloodstream.


Ill let you disect that symbolism;)

SOmetimes Stone and Parker are as blunt as a scalpel and other times they're as subtle as a daisycutter. :p

SOmetimes Stone and Parker are as blunt as a scalpel and other times they're as subtle as a daisycutter. :p

lol.

To bad only a handful of people will get that.

one is illegal the other should be.

fixed.

one should not be illegal the other should be.

fixed.

fixed your fix.

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

It's not our fault they get in the way of our bombs and bullets.

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?
Yup. The guys who start wars never seem to get caught. Especially if they're republican, because they appeal to people on a layer deeper, more primal and less intelligent that reason would ever reach.
Certain superdelegates who pissed off several rich and influential people for their corporate malfeasance need to have something done about it right now before they can vote.

i don't see what the hell is supposed to be such a big deal about anyone consuming the services of sex workers either. it has nothing to do with morality, which is the avoidance of causing suffering and harm, which things like wars and torture ARE real violations of.

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[QUOTE=Straughn;13523613]Yup. The guys who start wars never seem to get caught. Especially if they're republican.[\QUOTE]

Forgetting the fact that some democrats also voted for the Iraqi invasion/liberation/revenge war.

But one thing that Spitzer did while in office was proclaim how prostitution rings wrong and that he brought about an end to this and attempted to stamp these out and now he is caught being involved amongst one of them. Hey I suppose this sort of thing happens on both side of politics don't people reckon a bit like some republicans against homosexuality and then being caught with the dick up another guys arse.

i don't see what the hell is supposed to be such a big deal about anyone consuming the services of sex workers either. it has nothing to do with morality, which is the avoidance of causing suffering and harm
Well, one could argue that since many sex workers were put into their situation through economic hardships, consuming their services would be taking advantage of them. Furthermore it involves the risk of impregnating them (since no birth control is a complete guarantee) which one could argue would victimize the child who might end up being brought into the world through prostitution.

That said, I fully agree that war is MUCH worse than prostitution... and I think that if we were to legalize prostitution at least we could regulate it...

lol.

To bad only a handful of people will get that.

I'd be surprised if quite a few people don't know what a daisycutter is.

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

Um. It was done legally under US law. Just because some of us don't like it doesn't make it "illegal".

I think the governor should be praised for working to help stimulate the US economy after all he spent upwards of $50,000 on something that only adds money to the economy without actually depleting resources. Aside from that he ensured that these ladies could afford to live comfortably for the next few weeks.

Spitzer should be praised as a great humanitarian unlike all these other politicians who talk about fixing the economy and creating jobs, Spitzer took it upon himself to do just that.

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

First of all, I agree with you. Secondly, the war was not "illegal", and "a million iraqis" have not been killed.

I think the governor should be praised for working to help stimulate the US economy after all he spent upwards of $50,000 on something that only adds money to the economy without actually depleting resources. Aside from that he ensured that these ladies could afford to live comfortably for the next few weeks.

Spitzer should be praised as a great humanitarian unlike all these other politicians who talk about fixing the economy and creating jobs, Spitzer took it upon himself to do just that.

That's one way of thinking outside of the box, and it does make a good point. Spitzer is helping with some hands on work.... ;)

why are there so many crazy threads out just now?
must be that drugged US water supply.
weird

Well, one could argue that since many sex workers were put into their situation through economic hardships, consuming their services would be taking advantage of them. Furthermore it involves the risk of impregnating them (since no birth control is a complete guarantee) which one could argue would victimize the child who might end up being brought into the world through prostitution.

That said, I fully agree that war is MUCH worse than prostitution... and I think that if we were to legalize prostitution at least we could regulate it...

We all would experience economic hardships if we didn't work (excepting the minors or probably some students here)... as for the risk of impregnating, well, I'd expect a sex worker to know the tools of the trade. Have you ever tried tearing a condom apart? Those things are robust. The risk is rather reasonable if she knows not to do things like combining oil and latex etc. Working in a mine, however, or, as war was mentioned, as a soldier... THAT is risky.

[QUOTE=Straughn;13523613]
But one thing that Spitzer did while in office was proclaim how prostitution rings wrong and that he brought about an end to this and attempted to stamp these out and now he is caught being involved amongst one of them. Hey I suppose this sort of thing happens on both side of politics don't people reckon a bit like some republicans against homosexuality and then being caught with the dick up another guys arse.

Yeah, I heard that too. That would be a reason for me not to elect him again, because he's obviously a hypocrite. However, seing a prostitute per se wouldn't.

One thing?

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I'd be surprised if quite a few people don't know what a daisycutter is.

Really? I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

who started the illegal war...

The Intelligence community?
The President?
The Congress who gave the okay to the President?

We all would experience economic hardships if we didn't work (excepting the minors or probably some students here)... as for the risk of impregnating, well, I'd expect a sex worker to know the tools of the trade. Have you ever tried tearing a condom apart? Those things are robust. The risk is rather reasonable if she knows not to do things like combining oil and latex etc. Working in a mine, however, or, as war was mentioned, as a soldier... THAT is risky.
Hey, I was just pointing out the reasons given against prostitution that focus on the "harm" aspect rather than arbitrary ethics, that's why I said "one could argue"...

Being horny and seeing prostitutes is enough to be forced to resign, but starting an illegal war that kills a million iraqis isn't.

Am I missing something?

Read a book called Conservatives Without Conscience. It was written by a conservative with a conscience, so it's not a partisan hackjob. It's a clear glimpse into how the people who claim the moral high ground can commit atrocity upon atrocity and still think that they're the good guys.

Spitzer has a conscience. Not enough of one to keep from going to prostitutes, but enough of one that when he's caught on tape arranging it he doesn't spend months saying "that's not me. It's a Republican conspiracy trying to drum up support for Telcom immunity." He cops to it, apologizes and leaves office.

Unlike Tom DeLay who gets caught money laundering, denies the fact and runs a series of slander ads against the prosecutor and makes speeches about how he (the guy formerly nicknamed Hottub Tom) is being persecuted for being such a good Christian. Then when the facts are made irrefutable he claims that money laundering is not money laundering unless the money that's laundered is the same physical bills you started with. Then when actually forced from office he makes a big speech about how happy he is that of the three ways that a politician can be leaving office, he's happy to be leaving under the best of them, not forced out in disgrace, and goes on to say how he opes that congress will follow the policies that led to his personal political destruction. That's a man with no conscience.

Read a book called Conservatives Without Conscience. It was written by a conservative with a conscience, so it's not a partisan hackjob. It's a clear glimpse into how the people who claim the moral high ground can commit atrocity upon atrocity and still think that they're the good guys.

Spitzer has a conscience. Not enough of one to keep from going to prostitutes, but enough of one that when he's caught on tape arranging it he doesn't spend months saying "that's not me. It's a Republican conspiracy trying to drum up support for Telcom immunity." He cops to it, apologizes and leaves office.

Unlike Tom DeLay who gets caught money laundering, denies the fact and runs a series of slander ads against the prosecutor and makes speeches about how he (the guy formerly nicknamed Hottub Tom) is being persecuted for being such a good Christian. Then when the facts are made irrefutable he claims that money laundering is not money laundering unless the money that's laundered is the same physical bills you started with. Then when actually forced from office he makes a big speech about how happy he is that of the three ways that a politician can be leaving office, he's happy to be leaving under the best of them, not forced out in disgrace, and goes on to say how he opes that congress will follow the policies that led to his personal political destruction. That's a man with no conscience.


Tom DeLay is one of the most vile creature to walk to earth, cut from the same mold as Bill O'riely, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Michael "Savage".

Am I missing something?

Moral puritanism > human life.

Forgetting the fact that some democrats also voted for the Iraqi invasion/liberation/revenge war.
Not forgetting SHIT. Specifically regarding Iraq, they pussed out. And voted. But they didn't START it.


But one thing that Spitzer did while in office was proclaim how prostitution rings wrong and that he brought about an end to this and attempted to stamp these out and now he is caught being involved amongst one of them. Hey I suppose this sort of thing happens on both side of politics don't people reckon a bit like some republicans against homosexuality and then being caught with the dick up another guys arse.I thought of posting something similar, but figured someone else would take that one.
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...and it's kinda funny how i'm being quoted for something i didn't say. o.9