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I though I would post this to see the kind of replies I get:

Hello, there, I am a 2nd lieutenant at the Spanish Royal Marine Corps 2nd regiment, integrated in the USEUSOCOM (Americas-European-Southern-command, stupid military technobabble). I am currently based at Camp Pizarro near Havana together with other three portuguese, italian and dutch divisions, plus a cuban brigade integrated into the spanish army, the first cuban unit that will enter combat since Cuba agreed to become a state of the Spanish Federal Republic. I am packing up my gear since I just received confirmation that this combined army will land in the Gulf Coast to push north and finish off the fundie states in the american South. This isn't a great secret, since everybody knows how much the European and Mexican airforces have been pounding the South for the past weeks.

I was born in 1975, the year Franco died, and grew up in a world where America was one step above the rest of the world. Coming from one of Europe's poorest places, for my generation America was the place where everything awesome took place. America was the land of Chuck Norris, skyscrapers, Ford Mustangs, Stallone, TV shows, democracy, science fiction weaponry... For us, americans were superior beings, it was obvious that Europe's time was over and that the world was ripe for american dominance, and it was not such a bad thing.

When was the spell broken, guys? How on earth did you manage to screw up so much? Was it when you attacked Iraq out of the blue? When your supreme court decided that popular vote, after all, wasn't qualified enough to elect a president? When you thought attacking Iran right before an election would be a good idea? I don't know, but now the situation has reversed. Before being sent to Havana, I served for three months at what was left of New York. Children there have been under our occupation for two years now and see Europe like I saw America when I was their age. They watch european TV shows in their TV's. They watch european films in cinemas. They follow the Euro Champions League just like I followed NBA in the early 80's. They phantasize with visiting Venice, Berlin or the Loire Chateaux just like I phantasized with going to New York, Las Vegas or the Great Canyon. They feel the same awe with our Leopard 3 tanks, our G46 rifles and our Typhoon fighters I felt with your Abrams, your M-16 and your f-18. I feel proud, but also scared that history may repeat itself again. After WWII it seemed obvious that mankind would learn from past mistkes, and now here we are, 2014 America looking like 1944 Europe, complete with carpet bombings and death camps. I have seen photos of what fundies are doing in the south, and I felt like puking. The other day I saw a guy suffering a nervous breakdown at the cantine after seeing a news report about another death camp found by our troops in Kentucky. I later learned that the guy was polish.

Uh, wrong forum?

Interesting.

I can't tell if you're joking or deathly serious.

holy shit I am confused. What?

http://www.plexoft.com/SBF/images/AEin.gif
Pardon?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/Smunkee/motivator6186950.jpg

uh...yeah, what?

Gosh, I love NS.

Let us hear it for Max Barry! A wonderful writer who created a wonderful community!

tl; dr, smells like a crappy attempt at trolling and/or flamebaiting.

Huh? Wah? Clarifying might help, espicially with the death camp part!

I like what you did there :cool:

Good shiznizz, good imaginative speculation. We can only hope that things don't get like this... right?

I get it. It's a vision of the Future. Here's mine:

(2028)

This is the BBC World service. Here is the News:

The British army has won another Victory in the War agianst America and the City of New York has Fallen. Canadian troops have taken Boston.

British Children are being Evacuated to Sierra Leone and the Colonies Britain had in 2008. 1 Ship is lost.

Prince Harry's troops in Florida have taken Orlando.

In France the Civil War continues. In Germany the break up of the Country after the Civil war will be fully enacted at Midnight Tonight.

In Singapore American refugees of the Clinton Dictatorship have been rounded up for the safety of the British Empire.

In Israel the City of Baghdad is celebrating 10 years of Israeli Control.

Tsar Putin has visited Manchuria, with a view to annexing it after the Chino-Japanese war left Both countries in Ruins.

In Egypt the collapse of the Aswan Dam will be allowed to continue as the farmers protested in Cairo.

The Queen's tour of Rhodesia has seen her Visit the former Dictator Robert Mugabe. He will shortly be hanged for crimes against Humanity. The PM of Rhodesia, Anne Widecombe has declared the forthcoming Execution a "Triumph for Civilisation".

An interesting idea, but it appears to be very far in the future. There are no plans for a leopard 3 tank, so the author would be well over 50, and not really all that likely to be engaged in such a conflict as a soldier.

EDIT: Reference to the OP here.

My previous post was by the way part of the plot of a novel I'm working on.

Gotta say if this is the start of a novel it's not bad.

An interesting idea, but it appears to be very far in the future. There are no plans for a leopard 3 tank, so the author would be well over 50, and not really all that likely to be engaged in such a conflict as a soldier.

EDIT: Reference to the OP here.

Wait, that stuff is fiction?

My previous post was by the way part of the plot of a novel I'm working on.I recommend a lot of reworking.

WTF?
You add in random parts of reality with your own imagination?
At least keep the two slightly more seperate so when other folks do read your OP they know if you're joking or serious.

That wasn't confusing at all. The OP specifically said "here we are, 2014".

I recommend a lot of reworking.

With regard to what?

I though I would post this to see the kind of replies I get:

Hello, there, I am a 2nd lieutenant at the Spanish Royal Marine Corps 2nd regiment, integrated in the USEUSOCOM (Americas-European-Southern-command, stupid military technobabble). I am currently based at Camp Pizarro near Havana together with other three portuguese, italian and dutch divisions, plus a cuban brigade integrated into the spanish army, the first cuban unit that will enter combat since Cuba agreed to become a state of the Spanish Federal Republic. I am packing up my gear since I just received confirmation that this combined army will land in the Gulf Coast to push north and finish off the fundie states in the american South. This isn't a great secret, since everybody knows how much the European and Mexican airforces have been pounding the South for the past weeks.

I was born in 1975, the year Franco died, and grew up in a world where America was one step above the rest of the world. Coming from one of Europe's poorest places, for my generation America was the place where everything awesome took place. America was the land of Chuck Norris, skyscrapers, Ford Mustangs, Stallone, TV shows, democracy, science fiction weaponry... For us, americans were superior beings, it was obvious that Europe's time was over and that the world was ripe for american dominance, and it was not such a bad thing.

When was the spell broken, guys? How on earth did you manage to screw up so much? Was it when you attacked Iraq out of the blue? When your supreme court decided that popular vote, after all, wasn't qualified enough to elect a president? When you thought attacking Iran right before an election would be a good idea? I don't know, but now the situation has reversed. Before being sent to Havana, I served for three months at what was left of New York. Children there have been under our occupation for two years now and see Europe like I saw America when I was their age. They watch european TV shows in their TV's. They watch european films in cinemas. They follow the Euro Champions League just like I followed NBA in the early 80's. They phantasize with visiting Venice, Berlin or the Loire Chateaux just like I phantasized with going to New York, Las Vegas or the Great Canyon. They feel the same awe with our Leopard 3 tanks, our G46 rifles and our Typhoon fighters I felt with your Abrams, your M-16 and your f-18. I feel proud, but also scared that history may repeat itself again. After WWII it seemed obvious that mankind would learn from past mistkes, and now here we are, 2014 America looking like 1944 Europe, complete with carpet bombings and death camps. I have seen photos of what fundies are doing in the south, and I felt like puking. The other day I saw a guy suffering a nervous breakdown at the cantine after seeing a news report about another death camp found by our troops in Kentucky. I later learned that the guy was polish.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/Fredcat/Cats%2005/Cat-CatWearingHatNoOneExpectsTheSpa.jpg

Wait, that stuff is fiction?Yup.

Well, I'll go with the flow:

Dear Angie,

I'm sorry that this is the first letter I'm writing you. You know I never was someone for writing them, and before you left, there never was any reason, postal service being what it is these days. Come to think of it, there's no sense in writing now either, but Mina thinks it's a good idea, so I thought I might give it a try.

Mina's doing fine, as is Bradley, though we're all a bit sore from the last salvaging mission. Captain "Suck-it" sent us into the middle of nowhere (read: some abandoned American suburb) to find the Propaganda Ministry a news van (not sure if you know what that is. Tuckett referred to it as an "OB van", if that helps) and then declined to pick us up by helicopter on account of "bad weather" (idiot). We ended up driving all the way to the coast to one of the fortified safe-houses, which is why we're all cramped and whatnot.

We ran into a few Zeds along the way, at the very beginning before driving off and the few times we had to stop and siphon gas. Broke one of my hockey sticks on one of those stops (I know, you always told me I should switch to cricket bats. But what can I say? I'm nostalgic).

Anyway, I gotta dash so I have to finish up the letter. There's a squad leader meeting about to happen and I've promised Mina that I'll start attending them from now on. Yeah, I kind of stopped going after you left.

Anyway, I miss you,

Mason

With regard to what?Hard to say, but from the bits and pieces I've seen, it doesn't look very realistic (for instance, why are France and Germany in civil disorder while the UK has somehow become an Empire again?).

Update


My god. Those people in the Mid West are dead, every single one of them. Not and hour ago the Demeter's Tears was dropped on the midwest. The Tears is a plant weapon which was engineered by the old regime. It infects plants causing them to take up toxins and die it is carried by animals and works by staying in your bladder to you need a piss. The expected fall out of this weapon is show on the map report below. We just got it off the BBC's american network.

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=43579&stc=1&d=1204148801

Everyones blaming Mexico, negotiations have broken down between the EU and them. We can't start another war. We are over stretched as it is. The only way to stop the dust bowel spreading if to kill every damn person in that region and inject everyone within a radius with the prototype cure. I have been assigned to the first killing squad. I leave tomorrow. What went wrong, why?

Update
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=43579&stc=1&d=1204148801


Oh...my...God. In the future, the Alaskan peninsula has broken away from Canada and is now close to Hawaii, which has floated under Texas!

*snip image*

Oh...my...God. In the future, the Alaskan peninsula has broken away from Canada and is now close to Hawaii, which has floated under Texas!

Smaller images please.

Hard to say, but from the bits and pieces I've seen, it doesn't look very realistic (for instance, why are France and Germany in civil disorder while the UK has somehow become an Empire again?).

France has had Communists and Basque and Brittany Seperatists fighting it out, with Normandy and the Republic fighting too. Germany has started off as Prussia V. Bavaria (from an idea to combine Brandenburg and Berlin and call the new state Prussia, reviving the German War monger state.

The UK has an Empire after the Indo-Pakistan War (2013) was entered by Britain on India's side and it snowballed, first Pakistan, then India, then Zimbabwe and so on. And I've also hinted at me as PM (only my friends would know this though).

Wait, I can do that too...

I am kind of a traveling salesman, I go from business to business hawking my company's product but it is all done in my sales area, three counties in my home state. Every once in a while I would get the urge to stop in an adult
bookstore to watch the dancers, but this one time I stopped in one of the adult bookstores, it was a gay book store with movie booths.

Now I was a bit curious as to how the men got it on with each other, so I figured what the hell and went into a booth and watched a movie. Actually I watched two movies, I have to tell you, I was turned on by watching one man get busy another and started visiting the store once a week.

Well this one day the booth I always used was occupied, so I used another one and after I put my money in the slot, I heard a noise. I looked around and to my surprise, there was a rock hard....

France has had Communists and Basque and Brittany Seperatists fighting it out, with Normandy and the Republic fighting too. Germany has started off as Prussia V. Bavaria (from an idea to combine Brandenburg and Berlin and call the new state Prussia, reviving the German War monger state.Unrealistic. I suggest a bit more reading on those things. The Prussia idea, for instance, isn't new, and even if enough people cared about it, I doubt the Bavarians would be included in the list.

The UK has an Empire after the Indo-Pakistan War (2013) was entered by Britain on India's side and it snowballed, first Pakistan, then India, then Zimbabwe and so on. And I've also hinted at me as PM (only my friends would know this though).
Baaad idea.

Is anyone enjoying this? Any constructive criticism?

Unrealistic. I suggest a bit more reading on those things. The Prussia idea, for instance, isn't new, and even if enough people cared about it, I doubt the Bavarians would be included in the list.


Baaad idea.

If it's not new it's more likely. Bavaria has a culture very different to that of Prussia. That would start a split and disintergration.

Me as PM. Come on, nothing bad could come of that!!!!!!

In before the loki!

In before the loki!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Loki%2C_by_M%C3%A5rten_Eskil_Winge_1890.jpg

You just made it!

It is now the year 2048. Three years ago, scientists proved the futility of life. People reacted to this pronouncement with stunned amazement, followed by suicides. After a while the suicides had tapered off, because while people realized there was no point in living, the survival instinct still persisted. A wonder drug was invented though, to get these people over their fears, and the suicides continued.
Now I am the last one left. I've taken the drug, and am beginning to feel its effect on me. I am standing with a wire around my neck, ready to jump.
Wish me luck.

It is now the year 2048. Three years ago, scientists proved the futility of life. People reacted to this pronouncement with stunned amazement, followed by suicides. After a while the suicides had tapered off, because while people realized there was no point in living, the survival instinct still persisted. A wonder drug was invented though, to get these people over their fears, and the suicides continued.
Now I am the last one left. I've taken the drug, and am beginning to feel its effect on me. I am standing with a wire around my neck, ready to jump.
Wish me luck.

you're scary...

http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/eapoe/bl-eapoe-mell.htm

I doubt it. Europes time really is over, and even if America's is too, the world would be far more likely to be dominated by India, China, and other Eastern countries. Here's why I say this:

1 - Europe's birth rate is below replacement rate, making economic progress difficult and politics by lance (what you're describing) impossible, as there are next to no able bodied Europeans to join an army and the few that you have are needed just to keep the place running.

2 - Unlike the US, Europe is NOT on largely peaceful terms with it's immigrant groups.

3 - Europe lacks the naval and logistical power to carry out overseas wars. The European armies that are deployed overseas are either very small or dependent upon either US support, local support, or a lack of enemy air and naval strength allowing for no resistance to lengthy, over-complicated naval operations that could be whacked out of place by one US Los Angeles class submarine.

4 - There is no reason to think this situation will change.


The only thing Europe has going for it is strength in Engineering and Science, and even that, it is questionable how long it will last under a lack of qualified young. In comparison to Europe, America's problems are quite small. Oh, and I almost forgot:

5 - America has nuclear weapons, and if you don't think it would use them under the situation you describe, you are a fool. Paris, Berlin, Madrid, all of them would be radioactive dust. The European governments would no longer have countries, and the rest of the world would have severe difficulty surviving the mess we created.

This whole thread is irrelevant! It's the Mayan calendar: everyone knows the world is supposed to END in 2012. DUH! *rolls eyes*

This whole thread is irrelevant! It's the Mayan calendar: everyone knows the world is supposed to END in 2012. DUH! *rolls eyes*

Isn't that a misconception? I thought it was that 2012 is the end of the second-to-last period, and the world ends sometime after yr. 4000

where's that talking pear when you need it?

I get it. It's a vision of the Future. Here's mine:

(2028)

This is the BBC World service. Here is the News:

The British army has won another Victory in the War agianst America and the City of New York has Fallen. Canadian troops have taken Boston.

British Children are being Evacuated to Sierra Leone and the Colonies Britain had in 2008. 1 Ship is lost.

Prince Harry's troops in Florida have taken Orlando.

In France the Civil War continues. In Germany the break up of the Country after the Civil war will be fully enacted at Midnight Tonight.

In Singapore American refugees of the Clinton Dictatorship have been rounded up for the safety of the British Empire.

In Israel the City of Baghdad is celebrating 10 years of Israeli Control.

Tsar Putin has visited Manchuria, with a view to annexing it after the Chino-Japanese war left Both countries in Ruins.

In Egypt the collapse of the Aswan Dam will be allowed to continue as the farmers protested in Cairo.

The Queen's tour of Rhodesia has seen her Visit the former Dictator Robert Mugabe. He will shortly be hanged for crimes against Humanity. The PM of Rhodesia, Anne Widecombe has declared the forthcoming Execution a "Triumph for Civilisation".

God save the Queen!


BTW...We get Boston! Awesome!


Anyways...Everyone knows that wars in the future will be fought between Naturals and Coordinators


FOR ZAFT! DESTROY THE NATURALS!
http://www.mtvasiablog.com/files/images/zaft_0.preview.jpg

Oh...my...God. In the future, the Alaskan peninsula has broken away from Canada and is now close to Hawaii, which has floated under Texas!

Then where did Mexico go?! :eek:

*runs* :p

It is now the year 2048. Three years ago, scientists proved the futility of life. People reacted to this pronouncement with stunned amazement, followed by suicides. After a while the suicides had tapered off, because while people realized there was no point in living, the survival instinct still persisted. A wonder drug was invented though, to get these people over their fears, and the suicides continued.
Now I am the last one left. I've taken the drug, and am beginning to feel its effect on me. I am standing with a wire around my neck, ready to jump.
Wish me luck.

You should write short stories. I would read them.

I though I would post this to see the kind of replies I get:

Hello, there, I am a 2nd lieutenant at the Spanish Royal Marine Corps 2nd regiment, integrated in the USEUSOCOM (Americas-European-Southern-command, stupid military technobabble). I am currently based at Camp Pizarro near Havana together with other three portuguese, italian and dutch divisions, plus a cuban brigade integrated into the spanish army, the first cuban unit that will enter combat since Cuba agreed to become a state of the Spanish Federal Republic. I am packing up my gear since I just received confirmation that this combined army will land in the Gulf Coast to push north and finish off the fundie states in the american South. This isn't a great secret, since everybody knows how much the European and Mexican airforces have been pounding the South for the past weeks.

I was born in 1975, the year Franco died, and grew up in a world where America was one step above the rest of the world. Coming from one of Europe's poorest places, for my generation America was the place where everything awesome took place. America was the land of Chuck Norris, skyscrapers, Ford Mustangs, Stallone, TV shows, democracy, science fiction weaponry... For us, americans were superior beings, it was obvious that Europe's time was over and that the world was ripe for american dominance, and it was not such a bad thing.

When was the spell broken, guys? How on earth did you manage to screw up so much? Was it when you attacked Iraq out of the blue? When your supreme court decided that popular vote, after all, wasn't qualified enough to elect a president? When you thought attacking Iran right before an election would be a good idea? I don't know, but now the situation has reversed. Before being sent to Havana, I served for three months at what was left of New York. Children there have been under our occupation for two years now and see Europe like I saw America when I was their age. They watch european TV shows in their TV's. They watch european films in cinemas. They follow the Euro Champions League just like I followed NBA in the early 80's. They phantasize with visiting Venice, Berlin or the Loire Chateaux just like I phantasized with going to New York, Las Vegas or the Great Canyon. They feel the same awe with our Leopard 3 tanks, our G46 rifles and our Typhoon fighters I felt with your Abrams, your M-16 and your f-18. I feel proud, but also scared that history may repeat itself again. After WWII it seemed obvious that mankind would learn from past mistkes, and now here we are, 2014 America looking like 1944 Europe, complete with carpet bombings and death camps. I have seen photos of what fundies are doing in the south, and I felt like puking. The other day I saw a guy suffering a nervous breakdown at the cantine after seeing a news report about another death camp found by our troops in Kentucky. I later learned that the guy was polish.

How interesting that people aren't happy with who they are but want to be someone else. What a cool idea for a comedy!! :p ;)

You should write short stories. I would read them.

well after that part i don't see there being many sequels, unless the wire snaps or he get's busted by some armed police or something.

well after that part i don't see there being many sequels, unless the wire snaps or he get's busted by some armed police or something.

Who needs "sequels"? Did Poe write any sequels?

Then where did Mexico go?! :eek:

Probably by the Patagonia.:p

you're scary...

You should write short stories. I would read them.Why thank you, to you both. :D

If it's not new it's more likely. Bavaria has a culture very different to that of Prussia. That would start a split and disintergration.Problems with that:
1. No public interest. The 1996 referendum barely passed in Berlin and failed to garner both the necessary participation (23% voted, 25% needed) and a majority (37% in favor).
2. Antipathy between Bavaria and Prussia exists, but nowhere near the levels required for a civil war. The creation of a state called Prussia, (as has been planned (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin-Brandenburg#Preu.C3.9Fen) [link in German]), would probably anger more Berliners and Brandenburgers (particularly the pacifists) than Bavarians (they simply wouldn't care).
3. There are more plausible civil war scenarios. For one, the UK is far more likely to splinter apart over Scotland seceeding at the moment. The separatist party in Bavaria (Bayern Partei) hasn't been represented in the Bavarian parliament since 1966 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayerischer_Landtag#Sitzverteilung).

Now, most of this is based on personal observation, based on me having lived in all relevant states.

Me as PM. Come on, nothing bad could come of that!!!!!!It screams Mary Sue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) in a high pitched voice.

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1528151&postcount=52

I though I would post this to see the kind of replies I get:

Hello, there, I am a 2nd lieutenant at the Spanish Royal Marine Corps 2nd regiment, integrated in the USEUSOCOM (Americas-European-Southern-command, stupid military technobabble). I am currently based at Camp Pizarro near Havana together with other three portuguese, italian and dutch divisions, plus a cuban brigade integrated into the spanish army, the first cuban unit that will enter combat since Cuba agreed to become a state of the Spanish Federal Republic. I am packing up my gear since I just received confirmation that this combined army will land in the Gulf Coast to push north and finish off the fundie states in the american South. This isn't a great secret, since everybody knows how much the European and Mexican airforces have been pounding the South for the past weeks.

I was born in 1975, the year Franco died, and grew up in a world where America was one step above the rest of the world. Coming from one of Europe's poorest places, for my generation America was the place where everything awesome took place. America was the land of Chuck Norris, skyscrapers, Ford Mustangs, Stallone, TV shows, democracy, science fiction weaponry... For us, americans were superior beings, it was obvious that Europe's time was over and that the world was ripe for american dominance, and it was not such a bad thing.

When was the spell broken, guys? How on earth did you manage to screw up so much? Was it when you attacked Iraq out of the blue? When your supreme court decided that popular vote, after all, wasn't qualified enough to elect a president? When you thought attacking Iran right before an election would be a good idea? I don't know, but now the situation has reversed. Before being sent to Havana, I served for three months at what was left of New York. Children there have been under our occupation for two years now and see Europe like I saw America when I was their age. They watch european TV shows in their TV's. They watch european films in cinemas. They follow the Euro Champions League just like I followed NBA in the early 80's. They phantasize with visiting Venice, Berlin or the Loire Chateaux just like I phantasized with going to New York, Las Vegas or the Great Canyon. They feel the same awe with our Leopard 3 tanks, our G46 rifles and our Typhoon fighters I felt with your Abrams, your M-16 and your f-18. I feel proud, but also scared that history may repeat itself again. After WWII it seemed obvious that mankind would learn from past mistkes, and now here we are, 2014 America looking like 1944 Europe, complete with carpet bombings and death camps. I have seen photos of what fundies are doing in the south, and I felt like puking. The other day I saw a guy suffering a nervous breakdown at the cantine after seeing a news report about another death camp found by our troops in Kentucky. I later learned that the guy was polish.

damd good writtin. wrong forum or wright, best i've seen on here in ages.

=^^=
.../\...

Gotta say if this is the start of a novel it's not bad.

Yes it is. Good writers capitalise. :D

EDIT:
damd good writtin. wrong forum or wright, best i've seen on here in ages.


I love it when people prove my point without noticing.

Wait, that stuff is fiction?

Heheh what this line here didn't give you a clue?

'and now here we are, 2014 America '

Yes it is. Good writers capitalise. :DDepends on how you define "writing". In the creative jargon, it refers to the ability to put down a quality plot and has nothing to do with spelling abilities (that's what spellcheck and proofreaders were invented for).

God save the Queen!


BTW...We get Boston! Awesome!






Naturally. Canada is rewarded for it's loyalty with lands in the former States of America.

Another Prediction:

This is the BBC World Service. Here is the News.

A Riot in New Orleans on the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina has led to the City declaring it's Loyalty to Britain, which has promised to protect the City's Citizens in exchange for using it as a base for the War.

In Poland the government has declared a crisis after the tide of refugees from Britain has overwhealmed the Country.

In Hannover the government is arguing with the Dutch government over the border between the two countries. Escalation is likely.

In California the Australian Foces have invaded, and are making their way to San Francisco and Los Angeles. No resistance has been reported.

In Britain a night of Bombing has seen much of Plymouth reduced to Rubble. The US bases in Ireland were attacked in retaliation.

In Russia the Tsar is traveeling to Manchuria to inspect the new region of Russia.

In Kenya the arrival of British Evacuees has led to much concern in the Capital Nairobi over the lack of space for the children. Many are being housed at present in Hotels.

The missing ship of British Children is still Missing.

That is the News.

Depends on how you define "writing". In the creative jargon, it refers to the ability to put down a quality plot and has nothing to do with spelling abilities (that's what spellcheck and proofreaders were invented for).

Well, for one, I was clearly kidding, thus the smiley face.

Secondly, I didn't say it wasn't "writing", and not particularly liking it doesn't mean that its not writing.

Well, for one, I was clearly kidding, thus the smiley face.

Secondly, I didn't say it wasn't "writing", and not particularly liking it doesn't mean that its not writing.The post is kind of ambiguous, particularly the "capitalize" bit followed immediately by a quote in complete lowercases. Sorry if I misunderstood, but that's why.

AD 2101

War was beginning

America: What happen?

Great Britain: Some one set us up the bomb!

...

Germany: We get signal!

America: What?!

Germany: Main screen turn on!

America: It's YOU!

Switzerland: How are you gentlemen? All your nations are belong to us. You are one your way to destruction.

America: What you say?!

Switzerland: You have no chance to survive make your time! Ha ha ha!

Britain: America!

America: Take off every 'CIA Installed Dictatorship'!

Britain: You know what you doing.

Captain: Move 'CIA Installed Dictatorship'. For great justice.

...

See, I can do it too.

See, I can do it too.

I lol'd =D

Nice story, I don't get people criticizing a dystopic narrative saying it is not "plausible". 1984 passed and see the world now, but that doesn't mean the novel sucks.

Keep going, I'll keep reading.

As a question, is it english the standard language for all europeans and americans (continent americans), in your novel?

Writing that letter in spanish could have a better impact. I can help you translate it if you like. Unless, as a plot device, you give the soldier a british girlfriend. In that case, it makes sense he writes in english. Perhaps you can make a pair of grammar mistakes purposedly as to show he is really a spanish writing in english?

Just a suggestion.

LMAO, impratical and far reaching.

Nice story, I don't get people criticizing a dystopic narrative saying it is not "plausible". It's just that a Leopard 3 tank and a G46 Rifle aren't likely to happen by 2014. :p

It's just that a Leopard 3 tank and a G46 Rifle aren't likely to happen by 2014. :p

Unless in a certain way military producers accelerate the process? Like in a massed state of war? Unless an already existing prototype is renamed Leopard 3? Just giving away some options ;)

It is the future, most things are possible, and even plausible.

WWIII:

Britain & the Old Empire V. America.

Other Wars simultaneous:

French Civil War.

German Civil War.

Italy V. Slovenia.

Just Finished:

Brazil V. Ecuador & Peru. (Ecuador & Peru Win.)

China V. Japan (Mutual Destruction)

Also going on: Tibet freed at last.

Spain assisting Basque in French Civil War.

Sierra Leone and the British Territories owned atm (bar Cayman Islands and Bermuda) taking in Refugee children from Britain.

WWIII:

Britain & the Old Empire V. America.

Other Wars simultaneous:

French Civil War.

German Civil War.

Italy V. Slovenia.

Just Finished:

Brazil V. Ecuador & Peru. (Ecuador & Peru Win.)

China V. Japan (Mutual Destruction)

Also going on: Tibet freed at last.

Spain assisting Basque in French Civil War.

Sierra Leone and the British Territories owned atm (bar Cayman Islands and Bermuda) taking in Refugee children from Britain.

I don't think Japan has nukes, and things are lining up a little TO nicely for England. If you want to make it seem more real you need at LEAST one strong opposition to "glorious England :rolleyes:".

I don't think Japan has nukes, and things are lining up a little TO nicely for England. If you want to make it seem more real you need at LEAST one strong opposition to "glorious England :rolleyes:".

Japan V. China was a war of scorched earth etc and the Advances by both sides meant that most of those countries were a war zone at some stage.

The whole Country (Britain) is bombed, Many cities reduced to Rubble. That bad enough for England?

Although they'll win the war, their country will never be the same.

I though I would post this to see the kind of replies I get:

Hello, there, I am a 2nd lieutenant at the Spanish Royal Marine Corps 2nd regiment, integrated in the USEUSOCOM (Americas-European-Southern-command, stupid military technobabble). I am currently based at Camp Pizarro near Havana together with other three portuguese, italian and dutch divisions, plus a cuban brigade integrated into the spanish army, the first cuban unit that will enter combat since Cuba agreed to become a state of the Spanish Federal Republic. I am packing up my gear since I just received confirmation that this combined army will land in the Gulf Coast to push north and finish off the fundie states in the american South. This isn't a great secret, since everybody knows how much the European and Mexican airforces have been pounding the South for the past weeks.

I was born in 1975, the year Franco died, and grew up in a world where America was one step above the rest of the world. Coming from one of Europe's poorest places, for my generation America was the place where everything awesome took place. America was the land of Chuck Norris, skyscrapers, Ford Mustangs, Stallone, TV shows, democracy, science fiction weaponry... For us, americans were superior beings, it was obvious that Europe's time was over and that the world was ripe for american dominance, and it was not such a bad thing.

When was the spell broken, guys? How on earth did you manage to screw up so much? Was it when you attacked Iraq out of the blue? When your supreme court decided that popular vote, after all, wasn't qualified enough to elect a president? When you thought attacking Iran right before an election would be a good idea? I don't know, but now the situation has reversed. Before being sent to Havana, I served for three months at what was left of New York. Children there have been under our occupation for two years now and see Europe like I saw America when I was their age. They watch european TV shows in their TV's. They watch european films in cinemas. They follow the Euro Champions League just like I followed NBA in the early 80's. They phantasize with visiting Venice, Berlin or the Loire Chateaux just like I phantasized with going to New York, Las Vegas or the Great Canyon. They feel the same awe with our Leopard 3 tanks, our G46 rifles and our Typhoon fighters I felt with your Abrams, your M-16 and your f-18. I feel proud, but also scared that history may repeat itself again. After WWII it seemed obvious that mankind would learn from past mistkes, and now here we are, 2014 America looking like 1944 Europe, complete with carpet bombings and death camps. I have seen photos of what fundies are doing in the south, and I felt like puking. The other day I saw a guy suffering a nervous breakdown at the cantine after seeing a news report about another death camp found by our troops in Kentucky. I later learned that the guy was polish.

Nice.

Japan V. China was a war of scorched earth etc and the Advances by both sides meant that most of those countries were a war zone at some stage.

The whole Country (Britain) is bombed, Many cities reduced to Rubble. That bad enough for England?

Although they'll win the war, their country will never be the same.


Why didn't china nuke Japan way before it came to ground combat. Japan has a small land mass and a lot of people, it wouldn't be that hard to wipe them out quickly. BTW, how long term if your fic? If it's short term, everythings cool, but if it's long term, england couldn't stay in power. EVERY empire falls, EVERY empire.

Although they'll win the war, How is that possible, considering this:
The whole Country (Britain) is bombed, Many cities reduced to Rubble.?

Why didn't china nuke Japan way before it came to ground combat. Japan has a small land mass and a lot of people, it wouldn't be that hard to wipe them out quickly. BTW, how long term if your fic? If it's short term, everythings cool, but if it's long term, england couldn't stay in power. EVERY empire falls, EVERY empire.

Nuclear Treaty, that causes WWIII inadvertantly. Britain being naturally slow, it had nukes after everyone else and so the British PM then "accidentally" (not me PM, I come in after the sart of the war) bombed Chicago, the Pentagon and White House (ordinary bomb for last one). That's also why none of the other wars use nukes.

The British Empire of the future is more of a Commonwealth with some central control than a full Empire.

Laerod, Britain wins because of Evacuation and V. good shelters. They're prepared after learning from WWII. So when the Yanks bomb the cities, they cause few casualties. Some cities are evacuated nightly and the city lights are left ablaze so that the people are saved. Also, lots of Underground factories are in use.

Some interesting events of WWIII:

Condolezza Rice is put on Trial by Hillary Clinton for treason, and is only rescued by the Australian advance on San Francisco, the new Capital after much of the East Coast is attacked by the British.

In Sierra Leone the Evacuees lead a programme of monument restoration as a thankyou to their hosts.

George Bush Jnr Jnr (who fled to Singapore to Avoid Mrs Clinton's regime) is captured and interned by the British when he's caught trying to flee the City.

Tony & Cherie Blair try to Blow up Parliament after not getting titles / seats in the Lords and being taxed to kingdom come and fined heavily for his actions whilst in power.

Camilla is finally made Princess of Wales.

Prince Harry captures Florida and accepts the state's surrender.

New Orleans revolts against the USA when they're used as a naval base and their city is wrecked to near-Catrina levels, (the govt. still not having finished clearing the City up).

India appoints the (by now V. old) Elizabeth II as their Empress.

Camilla is finally made Princess of Wales.

Oh come on, don't include totally implausible events!

Unless in a certain way military producers accelerate the process? Like in a massed state of war? Unless an already existing prototype is renamed Leopard 3? Just giving away some options ;)

It is the future, most things are possible, and even plausible.Existing prototypes don't exist. It's more likely that the Leopard 2 will have some things added to it, potentially a different turret or better armor, in which case it will be called Leopard 2 A6 (or A7, depending on where they're at right now). Also, the G36 isn't likely to be replaced anytime soon. Bundeswehr plans for the "soldier of the future" don't include new rifles. Heck, the MG42 from World War II hasn't even been replaced yet, just renamed MG3 due to modern materials being used.

Oh come on, don't include totally implausible events!

This is after she does tonnes of Charity work and Al Fayed gets put away (to a loony bin of course!) for theft from Harrods Deposit boxes (see today's Daily Mail) and has his assets confiscated.

Oh, and Sailing Ships are used to evacuate Children.

Nuclear Treaty, that causes WWIII inadvertantly. Britain being naturally slow, it had nukes after everyone else and so the British PM then "accidentally" (not me PM, I come in after the sart of the war) bombed Chicago, the Pentagon and White House (ordinary bomb for last one). That's also why none of the other wars use nukes.You do know that the White House is within walking distance (http://maps.google.de/maps?q=washington+dc&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wl) of (or blast radius of a nuke hitting) the Pentagon, right?
The British Empire of the future is more of a Commonwealth with some central control than a full Empire. From where? Why would it be called British if Britain has been reduced to rubble?
Laerod, Britain wins because of Evacuation and V. good shelters. They're prepared after learning from WWII. So when the Yanks bomb the cities, they cause few casualties. Some cities are evacuated nightly and the city lights are left ablaze so that the people are saved. Also, lots of Underground factories are in use.Underground factories take time to build. Much more so than shelters, and shelters don't happen over night either. It doesn't seem feasible.
Some interesting events of WWIII:Uh, oh.
Condolezza Rice is put on Trial by Hillary Clinton for treason, and is only rescued by the Australian advance on San Francisco, the new Capital after much of the East Coast is attacked by the British.Why would the US move the capital to another endangered area? NORAD is more logical for seat of war time government.
In Sierra Leone the Evacuees lead a programme of monument restoration as a thankyou to their hosts.Seems implausible.
George Bush Jnr Jnr (who fled to Singapore to Avoid Mrs Clinton's regime) is captured and interned by the British when he's caught trying to flee the City.George W. Bush has no son named George. He has daughters.
Tony & Cherie Blair try to Blow up Parliament after not getting titles / seats in the Lords and being taxed to kingdom come and fined heavily for his actions whilst in power.The hell?
Camilla is finally made Princess of Wales.Or what's left of it, apparently.
Prince Harry captures Florida and accepts the state's surrender.Not nearly as implausible as the rest.
New Orleans revolts against the USA when they're used as a naval base and their city is wrecked to near-Catrina levels, (the govt. still not having finished clearing the City up).Did you actually make an effort to learn about New Orleans and port facilities, along with reconstruction efforts, before deciding on this.
India appoints the (by now V. old) Elizabeth II as their Empress.I really doubt they'd want the British back.

You do know that the White House is within walking distance of (or blast radius of a nuke hitting) the Pentagon, right?
From where? Why would it be called British if Britain has been reduced to rubble?
Underground factories take time to build. Much more so than shelters, and shelters don't happen over night either. It doesn't seem feasible.
Uh, oh.
Why would the US move the capital to another endangered area? NORAD is more logical for seat of war time government.
Seems implausible.
George W. Bush has no son named George. He has daughters.
The hell?
Or what's left of it, apparently.
Not nearly as implausible as the rest.
Did you actually make an effort to learn about New Orleans and port facilities, along with reconstruction efforts, before deciding on this.
I really doubt they'd want the British back.


Oop, my bad. Well never mind. Anyway, it's a strategic attack, not a civilian wipe out in Washington.

British Countryside unaffected. Government secretly reocates to Cheddar Gorge.

Underground facilities set up after the French Civil war starts, and govt. fears an overspill.

The Capital is moved to San Francisco as it's furthest from Britain, then Australia enters the War and makes lightening attacks.

They have to thank their hosts somehow.

I made that bit up to make Clinton look bad.

That was just a fun thought.

Wales ain't a major target. Most of it is small settlements with no industry. Cardiff etc get a pasting though.

I decided on it as it made a Major Battle possible, and it's in the future, things may change.

Britain helps India in their war V. Pakistan. They give the queen a new title as a Thankyou.

Underground facilities set up after the French Civil war starts, and govt. fears an overspill.Unrealistic. If there's one thing civil wars generally lack then its strategic bombing. And consequently there will be little need to prepare for them.
The Capital is moved to San Francisco as it's furthest from Britain, then Australia enters the War and makes lightening attacks.Makes no sense. For one, the capital is unlikely to be moved in any event. They didn't do it in 1812 and it got burned back then. Secondly, there are already areas designated for the government to relocate in such an event. Airforce One, for example.
I made that bit up to make Clinton look bad.It makes your story look bad.
That was just a fun thought.Same as above.
I decided on it as it made a Major Battle possible, and it's in the future, things may change."Things may change" is a lazy man's excuse for not doing research. Do research and project what is likely to happen and what is not likely to happen.
Britain helps India in their war V. Pakistan. They give the queen a new title as a Thankyou.Unrealistic. Pakistan doesn't really have the manpower to threaten India in a way that would make the Indians so grateful they'd bestow the title of Empress on someone. They value their independence very highly.

Note, I'm trying to give you constructive criticism, as you're trying to write a novel. In my amateurish opinion, it isn't salvageable, as it has too many Mary Sue elements in it, if it isn't a Mary Sue plot entirely.

Nuclear Treaty, that causes WWIII inadvertantly. Britain being naturally slow, it had nukes after everyone else and so the British PM then "accidentally" (not me PM, I come in after the sart of the war) bombed Chicago, the Pentagon and White House (ordinary bomb for last one). That's also why none of the other wars use nukes.

The British Empire of the future is more of a Commonwealth with some central control than a full Empire.


Prince Harry captures Florida and accepts the state's surrender.

New Orleans revolts against the USA when they're used as a naval base and their city is wrecked to near-Catrina levels, (the govt. still not having finished clearing the City up).



First, you better explain why all the countries gave up their nukes, Countries wouldn't just do that. Also, explain why they let England keep theirs longer than anyone else.


As a side note, states cannot just "surrender" they are part of the Union. The union as a whole would have to surrender. Any people or states fighting would after that would be rebellious.

Unrealistic. If there's one thing civil wars generally lack then its strategic bombing.
Makes no sense. For one, the capital is unlikely to be moved in any event. They didn't do it in 1812 and it got burned back then. Secondly, there are already areas designated for the government to relocate in such an event. Airforce One, for example.
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"Things may change" is a lazy man's excuse for not doing research. Do research and project what is likely to happen and what is not likely to happen.
Unrealistic. Pakistan doesn't really have the manpower to threaten India in a way that would make the Indians so grateful they'd bestow the title of Empress on someone. They value their independence very highly.

Note, I'm trying to give you constructive criticism, as you're trying to write a novel. In my amateurish opinion, it isn't salvageable, as it has too many Mary Sue elements in it, if it isn't a Mary Sue plot entirely.

The French Civil war causes their airfoce to be split between Normandy and the Republic. That leads to Normandy threatening Britain as it's "Norman Land".

The Capital is moved when the Govt. flees. Also, Air Force 1 Would be targeted at the same time as the White House (I am not good at Plot summaries!)

New Orleans is made a base after the Yanks decide to interfere in the South American War on Ecuador & Peru's side.

Pakistan decided to get rid of it's nukes before the traty was finalised. India needed help after the Major Populatio centres & Military Bases get hit. The British also provides lots of relief. Also, remeber India's population growth isn't sustainable. Therefore they'll need serious help.

All this is actually background plot. The Main Novel is about a Ship of Evacuees who end up stranded on an Island, and then keep getting caught up in the war despite their location. It was meant to be a more cheery version of Lord of the Flies, but I got side tracked by romantic plots I abandoned the LotF idea entirely.

This is a first draft. Later editions will be V. Altered. I really won't get away with slandering half the G8! Or Calling Clinton a total loon who goes psyco, causes an end to the Britain & America alliance then goads Pakistan into War.

First, you better explain why all the countries gave up their nukes, Countries wouldn't just do that. Also, explain why they let England keep theirs longer than anyone else.


As a side note, states cannot just "surrender" they are part of the Union. The union as a whole would have to surrender. Any people or states fighting would after that would be rebellious.

Nuclear treaty caused by the advance in weapon maufacture rendering Nukes less effective. The Brits keep theirs forever because they are A: V slow at anything involving Politics and Paperwork, and the UN just orders them to hurry up. Then a war moger gets elected...

The US surrenders are caused by a policy of rebellion in occupied territories, this works better if states surrender. The plan backfires however when the Allies bring in all the suplies the US doesn't have.

The UN moves to Switzerland because of the Clinton Purges.

Dukes, do you realize how many people have guns in the U.S? Unless you were willing to nuke or carpet bomb civilian areas, your occupation would be hell, imagine iraq, only 50 times worse. Thats not even counting the gangs and inner city groups, we can barely handle them, what makes you think a hated invader could?

The US surrenders are caused by a policy of rebellion in occupied territories, this works better if states surrender. The plan backfires however when the Allies bring in all the suplies the US doesn't have.



I don't really understand, could you rephrase that please?

The French Civil war causes their airfoce to be split between Normandy and the Republic. That leads to Normandy threatening Britain as it's "Norman Land".Highly illogical. You need to rework that to make it plausible.
The Capital is moved when the Govt. flees. Also, Air Force 1 Would be targeted at the same time as the White House (I am not good at Plot summaries!)It's difficult to target a flying plane. Unless the plane isn't flying and the President isn't on board. In that case, however, there would be no Airforce One to target, as it actually refers to the plane the President is on and not a specific plane at all. If the usual two planes used get hit, its likely the President will requisition a different one.
New Orleans is made a base after the Yanks decide to interfere in the South American War on Ecuador & Peru's side.A good place to start. But now you have to answer why Guantanamo Bay or similar bases were insufficient for US operation in the war.
Pakistan decided to get rid of it's nukes before the traty was finalised. India needed help after the Major Populatio centres & Military Bases get hit. The British also provides lots of relief. Also, remeber India's population growth isn't sustainable. Therefore they'll need serious help.China's doing quite well at the moment. I bring this up because that's the demographic scenario India will enter around the time your story plays.
All this is actually background plot. The Main Novel is about a Ship of Evacuees who end up stranded on an Island, and then keep getting caught up in the war despite their location. It was meant to be a more cheery version of Lord of the Flies, but I got side tracked by romantic plots I abandoned the LotF idea entirely.It might be better to scrap the background plot completely and just have the castaways go silent whenever the "catastrophe" they fled is mentioned.
This is a first draft. Later editions will be V. Altered. I really won't get away with slandering half the G8! Or Calling Clinton a total loon who goes psyco, causes an end to the Britain & America alliance then goads Pakistan into War.Why bother in the first place, then?

Dukes, do you realize how many people have guns in the U.S? Unless you were willing to nuke or carpet bomb civilian areas, your occupation would be hell, imagine iraq, only 50 times worse. Thats not even counting the gangs and inner city groups, we can barely handle them, what makes you think a hated invader could?

Invaders that bring essentials (e.g. Enough Oil for recreational/personal uses), luxuries like silks and Coffee aren't generally hated. Also, you guys are gonna repeal your Gun amendment sooner or later. You guys aren't stupid enough to keep it going much longer.

Also, the British will have policy of "Guns for luxuries". That way we get two birds with one stone.

Invaders that bring essentials (e.g. Enough Oil for recreational/personal uses), luxuries like silks and Coffee aren't generally hated. Also, you guys are gonna repeal your Gun amendment sooner or later. You guys aren't stupid enough to keep it going much longer.

Also, the British will have policy of "Guns for luxuries". That way we get two birds with one stone.
That screams "Mary Sue".

Invaders that bring essentials (e.g. Enough Oil for recreational/personal uses), luxuries like silks and Coffee aren't generally hated. Also, you guys are gonna repeal your Gun amendment sooner or later. You guys aren't stupid enough to keep it going much longer.

Also, the British will have policy of "Guns for luxuries". That way we get two birds with one stone.

You might want to take a look at the D.C gun owning case before you decide we will get rid of guns.


The Guns for luxuries could be a great idea, but it could backfire too. You should do a plot about how it works in one area, and horribly backfires in another. The U.S isnt homogeneous, so the reactions wouldn't be the same.


Also, America is massive. How would you get enough supplies for everyone without depleting other areas? If you just give to a select few, that will
foster resentment and hatred. Maybe that could be another sub plot.

Highly illogical. You need to rework that to make it plausible.
It's difficult to target a flying plane. Unless the plane isn't flying and the President isn't on board. In that case, however, there would be no Airforce One to target, as it actually refers to the plane the President is on and not a specific plane at all. If the usual two planes used get hit, its likely the President will requisition a different one.
A good place to start. But now you have to answer why Guantanamo Bay or similar bases were insufficient for US operation in the war.
China's doing quite well at the moment. I bring this up because that's the demographic scenario India will enter around the time your story plays.
It might be better to scrap the background plot completely and just have the castaways go silent whenever the "catastrophe" they fled is mentioned.
Why bother in the first place, then?

Like I said, First Draft. I may make it A German-French war instead. If the're both having civil wars then I might as well combine them to produce my desired effect.

President in Whitehouse when it's hit. After all, why prepare for nukes when everyne's getting rid of them?

Cuba ain't gonna let the US keep their land for a hell-hole Prison much longer. Also, the New Orleans fleet is huge. It takes on the British, Canadian and a couple of African Navies in the V. Long Battle of the Tropic Atlantic.

China is more organised than India. Comes of Communism.

I may. However, I do like the idea of an Anglo-American War, as a theory. And as they have a radio I'd have to come up with a reason to not listen to the news.

Why Bother? the sheer value of it as an entertaining idea.

You might want to take a look at the D.C gun owning case before you decide we will get rid of guns.


The Guns for luxuries could be a great idea, but it could backfire too. You should do a plot about how it works in one area, and horribly backfires in another. The U.S isnt homogeneous, so the reactions wouldn't be the same.


Also, America is massive. How would you get enough supplies for everyone without depleting other areas? If you just give to a select few, that will
foster resentment and hatred. Maybe that could be another sub plot.

You guys in the US do realise that gun ownership is automatically going to cause more deaths don't you. Also, The Clinton Dictatorship will round up lots of weapons.

A sub plot of a sub plot? It's only a few news bulletins! Anyway, the supplies are mostly V. Industrialised products. They'll be stacked up if they can't get to America.

Like I said, First Draft. I may make it A German-French war instead. If the're both having civil wars then I might as well combine them to produce my desired effect.Not all that realistic either.
President in Whitehouse when it's hit. After all, why prepare for nukes when everyne's getting rid of them?Because Americans are a generally paranoid bunch.
Cuba ain't gonna let the US keep their land for a hell-hole Prison much longer. Also, the New Orleans fleet is huge. It takes on the British, Canadian and a couple of African Navies in the V. Long Battle of the Tropic Atlantic.Cuba isn't really in the position to kick the US out, and its unlikely they'll give America a reason to invade before the lease runs out.
China is more organised than India. Comes of Communism.Bad argument.
I may. However, I do like the idea of an Anglo-American War, as a theory. And as they have a radio I'd have to come up with a reason to not listen to the news.If they don't want to talk about it, perhaps they wouldn't want to listen to it either.
Why Bother? the sheer value of it as an entertaining idea.It's not all that entertaining, actually.

You guys in the US do realise that gun ownership is automatically going to cause more deaths don't you. Also, The Clinton Dictatorship will round up lots of weapons.

A sub plot of a sub plot? It's only a few news bulletins! Anyway, the supplies are mostly V. Industrialised products. They'll be stacked up if they can't get to America.

America wouldn't tolerate a dictatorship, there would be a revolution. Anyway, base industrial supplies are hardly "luxuries". I think it's neat that you are trying a fic, but you are under some serious misconceptions about the U.S.

Not all that realistic either.
Because Americans are a generally paranoid bunch.
Cuba isn't really in the position to kick the US out, and its unlikely they'll give America a reason to invade before the lease runs out.
Bad argument.
If they don't want to talk about it, perhaps they wouldn't want to listen to it either.


History teaches us that Europe always dissolves into war sooner or later. Remember, France keeps trying to do things without involving Germany. And there's Alsace-Lorraine...

When does that lease run out? Also, is it still used for the stated purpose. That'd be a good reason for Cuba to reclaim it.

Anyway, If the economy collapses again we will all face the 1930s MK 2.

They talk about it at the beginning. Then it fades into the background as they get the rose-tint effect on how they view home. Also, they have other things to worry about. Like Planes firing on their beached ship accidentally during a dog-fight.

Clinton will disguise the Dictatorship. After all, they're a clever household. Also, The Americans gave up things they swore blind they'd never surrender after 9/11.

I think it would be better for you if you did a far future story. Mainly because your story lines are not plausable for the near future.

http://plataforma.meristation.com/EPORTAL_IMGS/GENERAL/juegos/PlayStation3-Estrategia/7e/IMG-cw464f5e0e973c7/MeriEndwar%20(13)pe.jpg

'Nuff said.

History teaches us that Europe always dissolves into war sooner or later. Remember, France keeps trying to do things without involving Germany. And there's Alsace-Lorraine...No, history teaches us that Europe devolves into war sooner. It's also rather useless when you're faced with a completely new situation. And what about Alsace-Lorraine?
When does that lease run out? Also, is it still used for the stated purpose. That'd be a good reason for Cuba to reclaim it.Why don't you look it up yourself? The whole point of doing research is that you do research. If you need personal accounts of things, then ask people.
Anyway, If the economy collapses again we will all face the 1930s MK 2.Or the 1970s Mk II.
They talk about it at the beginning. Then it fades into the background as they get the rose-tint effect on how they view home. Also, they have other things to worry about. Like Planes firing on their beached ship accidentally during a dog-fight.Meh.
Clinton will disguise the Dictatorship. After all, they're a clever household. Also, The Americans gave up things they swore blind they'd never surrender after 9/11.Such as?

I think it would be better for you if you did a far future story. Mainly because your story lines are not plausable for the near future.

I went for near future as I didn't want to wonder into sci-fi.

Everything in 1933 to 1945 was implausible in 1929.

I went for near future as I didn't want to wonder into sci-fi.

Everything in 1933 to 1945 was implausible in 1929.Not entirely so.

Not entirely so.

Really? So Hitler Could've got power? Japan still could've started the Eastern War with Democracy reigning? The Atom Bomb Could've still been developed with no war to use it in?

I went for near future as I didn't want to wonder into sci-fi.

Everything in 1933 to 1945 was implausible in 1929.

Then you'd better explain extremely well why so much changed so fast. Maybe throw in the current economic issues we have in the U.S right now. Fiction based in fact works well.

Then you'd better explain extremely well why so much changed so fast. Maybe throw in the current economic issues we have in the U.S right now. Fiction based in fact works well.

I may well do. It would also neatly explain the invasion of Zimbabwe.

Really? So Hitler Could've got power? Predicting who will come to power is tricky, predicting that a radical opponent of the Weimar Republic would come to power is not.
Japan still could've started the Eastern War with Democracy reigning? Counter: Democracy would be reigning? Democracy reigned?
The Atom Bomb Could've still been developed with no war to use it in?Getting into technology here. I'm sure that the physicists studying atoms did indeed predict its power.

I may well do. It would also neatly explain the invasion of Zimbabwe.But not why states that so violently oppose European meddling will suddenly welcome it.

One more idea. The Government underfunds UK sea defences to the point where much of England is flooded one night.

Who thinks that's feasible?

But not why states that so violently oppose European meddling will suddenly welcome it.

Anything is better than Mugabe.

One more idea. The Government underfunds UK sea defences to the point where much of England is flooded one night.

Who thinks that's feasible?Hasn't the BBC done a couple things on that?

Anything is better than Mugabe.Anything is better than Saddam. Funnily enough, the US and UK are having a tough time in Iraq.

Also, that would do squat to pacify the AU.