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Now, ya remember these two guys? (ACHTUNG!: Anime topic...)

Aurono
11-03-2008, 16:43
Well, recently, two of the most memorable villains of my childhood came to my mind, and I came to think that they are really very similar in some aspects... I'm speaking of Kefka Palazzo from FFVI (FFII in the US) and Akira's Tetsuo Shima. Don't you think they are quite comparable? - come to think of it - both are subject to government experiments into ESP, both are total madmen and both ascend to godhood with their physical bodies taking rather ...odd... forms of apparently randomly assembled bodyparts sprawling uncontrollably (though Kefka's final form is humanoid again).

And, now, what I've also been wondering was:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x85/MoonShadow_09/Concept_new.jpg

No, don't worry, you don't need to post a drawing of the result (that would be nice, though :)...), but I would like to hear your word on this.
Saxnot
11-03-2008, 17:08
They're pretty common themes in anime and manga, as well as regular sci-fi too. Transcendental power, government manipulation, genetic experiments gone awry and so on. I wouldn't look for too strong a connection.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-03-2008, 17:53
Well, recently, two of the most memorable villains of my childhood came to my mind, and I came to think that they are really very similar in some aspects... I'm speaking of Kefka Palazzo from FFVI (FFII in the US) and Akira's Tetsuo Shima. Don't you think they are quite comparable? - come to think of it - both are subject to government experiments into ESP, both are total madmen and both ascend to godhood with their physical bodies taking rather ...odd... forms of apparently randomly assembled bodyparts sprawling uncontrollably (though Kefka's final form is humanoid again).

And, now, what I've also been wondering was:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x85/MoonShadow_09/Concept_new.jpg

No, don't worry, you don't need to post a drawing of the result (that would be nice, though :)...), but I would like to hear your word on this.

As Saxnot posted, this is a fairly common theme in anime. Sephiroth, from FFVII, was also a government experiment and tried to ascend to godhood by harnessing the power of the planet and hurled a giant meteor trying to destroy it. As for the sprawling body parts, well, he did grew wings on FFVII: Advent Children.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4586/sephiroth8jy.jpg
Dontgonearthere
11-03-2008, 18:00
Pfff, bunch of second raters.
You dont know true terror until you have faced...
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8605/kyuubusourenkin17ad3745pb3.jpg
Say it with LOVE!
PA-PI-YON~!

Seriously though. Papillon is the best anime villian of all time.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-03-2008, 18:15
Pfff, bunch of second raters.
You dont know true terror until you have faced...
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8605/kyuubusourenkin17ad3745pb3.jpg
Say it with LOVE!
PA-PI-YON~!

Seriously though. Papillon is the best anime villian of all time.

Nope, Galator, from G-Force, is better!
http://www.absoluteanime.com/g-force/katse-.jpg
Dontgonearthere
11-03-2008, 18:33
You, sir, have no taste at all.
CthulhuFhtagn
11-03-2008, 19:07
Well, this degenerated fast.
JuNii
11-03-2008, 19:37
Well, recently, two of the most memorable villains of my childhood came to my mind, and I came to think that they are really very similar in some aspects... I'm speaking of Kefka Palazzo from FFVI (FFII in the US) and Akira's Tetsuo Shima. Don't you think they are quite comparable? - come to think of it - both are subject to government experiments into ESP, both are total madmen and both ascend to godhood with their physical bodies taking rather ...odd... forms of apparently randomly assembled bodyparts sprawling uncontrollably (though Kefka's final form is humanoid again).
actually, Tetsuo was not a subject of any Gov experiments. in fact, it was opposite, the Government was trying to study Tetsuo's power and help him control it. Tetsuo was driven mad by his power.

Kefka was just crazy.

join the two and you'll either get a powermad God...

or a effeminate whiney brat.
Siylva
11-03-2008, 19:50
Well, recently, two of the most memorable villains of my childhood came to my mind, and I came to think that they are really very similar in some aspects... I'm speaking of Kefka Palazzo from FFVI (FFII in the US) and Akira's Tetsuo Shima. Don't you think they are quite comparable? - come to think of it - both are subject to government experiments into ESP, both are total madmen and both ascend to godhood with their physical bodies taking rather ...odd... forms of apparently randomly assembled bodyparts sprawling uncontrollably (though Kefka's final form is humanoid again).

And, now, what I've also been wondering was:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x85/MoonShadow_09/Concept_new.jpg

No, don't worry, you don't need to post a drawing of the result (that would be nice, though :)...), but I would like to hear your word on this.

Actually, I kind of disagree they're alike. Kefka was actually quite normal and then driven mad by magicite. He's also more ruthless and manipulative then Tet.

Tetsuo, though I like him, is an angsty teen with issues. Its like comparing Cloud to Squall.
Bolol
11-03-2008, 20:11
...Its like comparing Cloud to Squall.

Remind me again comrade...what's the difference between those two? :P
The Shin Ra Corp
12-03-2008, 00:19
Well, I wouldn't count Tetsuo as a true villain. The bad guys in Akira take quite a back seat to conflicts and troubles of the human mind and society in that movie. But, in my eyes, Tetsuo compares more closely to Vegeta from DBZ! Just look at their hairstyles and those eyes...:

http://www.geocities.com/ssjpride_2/pics/vegeta_a6.jpg

Plus, both of them have some minority complex: Tetsuo is bugged by his inferiority to Kaneda, as is Vegeta to Son Goku...

But, if you like to compare characters, you can put Pope Zera from Grandia II in your list. He's more like Kefka, plus, nothing has more sprawling bodyparts than Valmar, and, if I remember correctly, Zera's final god-form was his swollen head encased in a egg of some sort, made of eery green flesh. The egg had wings and would open up, exposing Zera's head fixed to it by a bundle of veins and tentacles, whenever he bloated out one of his pathetic semi-religious phrases that caused some sort of magic spell (Zera: "Dust to Dust!" = lightning magic...) You see, the theme of crazed humans becoming lovecraftian gods is quite common...
Siylva
12-03-2008, 02:30
Remind me again comrade...what's the difference between those two? :P

Uh...Clouds older and isn't emo;):p
Non Aligned States
12-03-2008, 03:21
And, now, what I've also been wondering was:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x85/MoonShadow_09/Concept_new.jpg


The answer

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5c698d921b.jpg
Skaladora
12-03-2008, 03:25
Uh...Clouds older and isn't emo;):p

He's got mucho problemos en su cabesa, though.
New Manvir
12-03-2008, 04:45
http://www.stolaf.edu/people/vangtk/index_files/image009.jpg

Gundams FTW