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According to this moron (http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=TopStories&id=20080310/47d4c050_3421_1334520080310-1326456571).

Apologies in advance if this has been posted.

I don't think they care.

On the other hand, he may have been simply misheard. Terrorists would certainly celebrate if Osama claims a shock victory.

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

I don't know that you'd find many 'terrorists' that could tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans or care much either way.

Ya know, this line didn't work too well in 2006, why on earth are they trying this again?

Ya know, this line didn't work too well in 2006, why on earth are they trying this again?

Because they're conservatives. Conservatives wouldn't change their underwear if it didn't become stinky. You think mere utter failure of an argument will get them to change that?

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

:rolleyes:

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

As opposed to ejaculating in their pants after a Republican-supported Bush Administration shattered the secular stability of Iraq and turned it into a sectarian killing field. Not to mention leave Afghanistan a festering wound that the Taliban could make a comeback in?

:rolleyes:

I don't know that you'd find many 'terrorists' that could tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans or care much either way.
You mistake "terrorists" for terrorists. "Terrorists" are American boogeymen that live in mosques and pop out to go "boom I kill you" when liberals are around. Terrorists have agendas and don't give a shit who is in charge.

On the other hand, he may have been simply misheard. Terrorists would certainly celebrate if Osama claims a shock victory.

:D beat me to the punch!

As opposed to ejaculating in their pants after a Republican-supported Bush Administration shattered the secular stability of Iraq and turned it into a sectarian killing field. Not to mention leave Afghanistan a festering wound that the Taliban could make a comeback in?

:rolleyes:

Well you know, terrorists love Republicans, they actually want Republicans to win and to be invaded and attacked. That's the terrorist agenda - attract the attention of Republicans, get killed, all to get what they secretly wanted all along - Democrats!

It was a twisted terror plot all along! And they would have gotten away with it too, if not for that dastardly FO!

More Obama bashing by silly republican senators who are more out of touch with reality than a turnip.

How this makes headlines, I don't know.

I don't know that you'd find many 'terrorists' that could tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans or care much either way.

Indeed. Most of the world thinks the distinction between "Dems" and "Reps" is silly and sees them as one party on an extremely narrow part of the political spectrum.

Most terrorists are in an entirely different part.

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

Who didn't know that? ;)

You mistake "terrorists" for terrorists. "Terrorists" are American boogeymen that live in mosques and pop out to go "boom I kill you" when liberals are around. Terrorists have agendas and don't give a shit who is in charge.

LOL!

This reminds me of a 6 word Sci-fi 'story: Osama's time machine: President Gore concerned!

I'll support Obama wheter the Terrorist support him or not...
ALL HEIL OBAMA TO BE THE USA PRESIDENT!

According to this moron (http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=TopStories&id=20080310/47d4c050_3421_1334520080310-1326456571).

Apologies in advance if this has been posted.
To be honest, I can see it happening. However, I don't see how a bunch of deluded people living their delusions is important in anyway...

Who didn't know that? ;)

Sane people.

Speaking as a Democrat, I know they will celebrate.

Yes, we won't investigate anything without a warrant (and I don't mean a secret warrant).

We won't assassinate people with missiles anymore.

We won't invade countries anymore.

We won't bomb anyone anymore.

We'll try and capture them, but only if they come to the US, and we'll try them publicly (which will probably fail, because they'll never talk).

Yes, we'll fail a lot in the "war on terror". But we will at least be able to call ourselves the "good guys".

According to this moron (http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=TopStories&id=20080310/47d4c050_3421_1334520080310-1326456571).

Apologies in advance if this has been posted.

I posted it in the election thread. But, I do believe it is different enough to have its own thread.

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

I was wondering when you'd pop up again.

Does anyone remember when (former)Australian Prime Minister John Howard said this?

Notice to Peter King:
http://www.idrewthis.org/comics/idt20040405binladen.gif

If Representative King has such in depth knowledge of Al Qaeda, then why isn't he working with the CIA? I mean, if he knows them so well as to know who they support in the US presidential elections then he must know where some of their bases are at least.


What's that? He was just making shit up to try and scare people into not voting for Obama? Ah, never mind then.

Speaking as a Democrat, I know they will celebrate.

Yes, we won't investigate anything without a warrant (and I don't mean a secret warrant).

We won't assassinate people with missiles anymore.

We won't invade countries anymore.

We won't bomb anyone anymore.

We'll try and capture them, but only if they come to the US, and we'll try them publicly (which will probably fail, because they'll never talk).

Yes, we'll fail a lot in the "war on terror". But we will at least be able to call ourselves the "good guys".

Is this a serious post? Do you forget that even under President Clinton, the northern quarter of Iraq was already being occupied. American airpower has dominated the country for over a decade.

You mistake "terrorists" for terrorists. "Terrorists" are American boogeymen that live in mosques and pop out to go "boom I kill you" when liberals are around. Terrorists have agendas and don't give a shit who is in charge.

Yeah-and this attitude has been clearly exhibited several times in Spain recently:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1720463,00.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_March_2004_Madrid_train_bombings


I think terrorists care very much who is in charge.

Is this a serious post? Do you forget that even under President Clinton, the northern quarter of Iraq was already being occupied. American airpower has dominated the country for over a decade.

That was all in place before Clinton was elected. Remember?

Look. Apparently the American people don't want to do anything outside of the US to stop terrorists (renditions, invasions, assassination by missile, etc).

Most European countries want us to stop doing that.

Most other countries want us to stop doing that.

Ok. Fine. Maybe our reputation is worth more than our solo attempts to kick people's asses.

We can still kick people's asses if they are stupid enough to arrive here.

San Martin, you know that between " everything " and " nothing " there's space, no ?

Helping sovereign countries fighting terrorism on their own soil could be done without bombing civilians and inflamming pro-Al Qaeda sentiments...

But, obviously, the actual method as proven being SO MUCH EFFICIENT...

In fact, the American War on Terror is just the Israeli's method against terrorism, but on a larger scale, and both time, it has been proven that this course of action help and strenghten terrorism.

Do you know that 10 years ago, for most of the population of the Maghreb, Saddam Hussein was seen as a madman ?
Do you know that now, for the same people, he's a martyr and a hero of Islam and the Arabic world ?

Do you know that thanks to the Bush War on Terror, America put Tchetchen resistance on the list of US ennemies ( this was, in fact, a worsier move even than the invasion of Irak... )

And, I remember of Clinton bombings on Sudan, against Al-Qaeda...this was also in place before him, perhaps ?

Oh, and let me remember, Nixon was perhaps a Democrat, when he pulled US troops out of Vietnam (just before suppressing your healthcare system ) ?

The War on Terror is already lost, it was lost the day USA decided to invade Irak, and now there's nothing to do, just wait one or two decades and again helping Arabs bloody dictatorship resisting islamist groups.

Thank you sooooo much, you " strong Republicans " who definitly don't understand anything about mankind...

San Martin, you know that between " everything " and " nothing " there's space, no ?

Helping sovereign countries fighting terrorism on their own soil could be done without bombing civilians and inflamming pro-Al Qaeda sentiments...

But, obviously, the actual method as proven being SO MUCH EFFICIENT...

In fact, the American War on Terror is just the Israeli's method against terrorism, but on a larger scale, and both time, it has been proven that this course of action help and strenghten terrorism.

Do you know that 10 years ago, for most of the population of the Maghreb, Saddam Hussein was seen as a madman ?
Do you know that now, for the same people, he's a martyr and a hero of Islam and the Arabic world ?

Do you know that thanks to the Bush War on Terror, America put Tchetchen resistance on the list of US ennemies ( this was, in fact, a worsier move even than the invasion of Irak... )

And, I remember of Clinton bombings on Sudan, against Al-Qaeda...this was also in place before him, perhaps ?

Oh, and let me remember, Nixon was perhaps a Democrat, when he pulled US troops out of Vietnam (just before suppressing your healthcare system ) ?

The War on Terror is already lost, it was lost the day USA decided to invade Irak, and now there's nothing to do, just wait one or two decades and again helping Arabs bloody dictatorship resisting islamist groups.

Thank you sooooo much, you " strong Republicans " who definitly don't understand anything about mankind...

You're talking to a Democrat, you boob.

I think they'll celebrate if a Democrat wins in general.

Just like if we let gays marry each other and allow stem cell research we let the terrorists win. Oh get off the Conservative fearmongering bandwagon already.

I think terrorists care very much who is in charge.

Yes, but not if it is a Democrat or a Republican.
I know I already mentioned it, but it bears repeating: while hard for most US citizens to understand, the rest of the world really does not see all that much difference between your two parties.

Yes, we'll fail a lot in the "war on terror". But we will at least be able to call ourselves the "good guys".
In all seriousness, good luck with that. But do bear in mind that whether or not you see it as "leaving them alone", you will not be able to claim the title of "good guys" so easily. The people who have been wounded by our actions will not be appeased simply because the Americans have a new leader. Humans when scorned are vengeful creatures, and will not be denied their vindication, even if they need to take it out on those who are only partially responsible. If you really want them to think of you as "good guys", you need some sort of reparative justice as well, and just backing off won't do the trick there.

You mistake "terrorists" for terrorists. "Terrorists" are American boogeymen that live in mosques and pop out to go "boom I kill you" when liberals are around. Terrorists have agendas and don't give a shit who is in charge.

WIN!

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Oh, so it's not enough to vote Democrat now...
I'm just being realistic. Al Qaeda's response won't be "Oh, well Bush isn't president any more and the occuping troops are gone, that makes America okay again". As wise as voting out the republicans probably is, it's not some magical elixir that'll make everyone like you.

just a few little points in light of the most recent part of the discussion.

1) as a post previously stated most people outside the US cant tell the difference between a republican and a democrat in light of their political opinion those that do see the republicans as people who go too far and the democrats as those that do not go far enough.

2) to be fair to the US they are the most powerful nation in the world and like every other most powerful nation in the world, everyone else will think they are a complete something rude. the british empire was hated by many people outside the empire and in for that matter. it has been the same thing with every empire in history. simple fact of the matter is its subconcious jelousy and will for more power.

3) prehaps the reason that terrorists are becoming so common is because we (UK + US) are invading everywhere and not being ruthless enough about it. areas are left with supporters of the enemy and as they have not done anything wrong in plain sight they are not treated as an enemy, fact of the matter is simply when the enemy are the people they are still the enemy and if there is going to be shooting make sure your not on the recieving end. harsh but true. its the carrot and stick approach.

sorry if i have offended anyone in saying this but i hope we can all be mature enough 2 accept others opinions and insight even if we do not agree with them.

also before people think im being pro US and some sort of red neck. I am not, i am infact English of an old aristocratic family so i have had alot of experience in studying military, history and politics before someone starts trying to slag me off as i have experience of in the past.

In all seriousness, good luck with that. But do bear in mind that whether or not you see it as "leaving them alone", you will not be able to claim the title of "good guys" so easily. The people who have been wounded by our actions will not be appeased simply because the Americans have a new leader. Humans when scorned are vengeful creatures, and will not be denied their vindication, even if they need to take it out on those who are only partially responsible. If you really want them to think of you as "good guys", you need some sort of reparative justice as well, and just backing off won't do the trick there.

Oh, so it's not enough to vote Democrat now...

In all seriousness, good luck with that. But do bear in mind that whether or not you see it as "leaving them alone", you will not be able to claim the title of "good guys" so easily. The people who have been wounded by our actions will not be appeased simply because the Americans have a new leader. Humans when scorned are vengeful creatures, and will not be denied their vindication, even if they need to take it out on those who are only partially responsible. If you really want them to think of you as "good guys", you need some sort of reparative justice as well, and just backing off won't do the trick there.

very true. however they have been brought up with a different idea of morals through religion. basically what we think might be bad they would think as good and what they think is bad we might think is good. thus a solution to that problem is somewhat unlikely to occur. difference in morals is not neccessarily a bad thing it just means you have a different spin on society and how it should work.