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hmm...

Philosopy
10-03-2008, 22:09
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?

Yes, but he could carry it.

Woo! Thread steal.
Talemetros
10-03-2008, 22:16
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
EDIT: DAMN IT !
Ashmoria
10-03-2008, 22:18
yes.
Mad hatters in jeans
10-03-2008, 22:18
i suppose he could.
P1) God exists
P2) God has infinite power
P3) God makes a rock infinitely heavy
P4) God can reverse time to lift the rock
C) God can lift the rock
Bornova
10-03-2008, 22:22
Disclaimer: I don't believe in God, Gods, Divinities or any other Supreme Being thereof.

The classical answer to that question would be "God's abilities, what he/she can do cannot be fathomed or questioned by mere human beings - anything about him/her is beyond our understanding and our petty logical games" which would be the truth if there was or is an omniscient/omnipotent being, I guess...

Cheerio!
The Vuhifellian States
10-03-2008, 22:26
Ew, religion class.

Anyway, yes. Because:

1) Let's say, for argument, that God(s) exists
2) Such a being would have to be from another realm because there is no physical evidence to support said existance
3) Inter-dimensional beings cannot possibly interact with one another
4) Thus, any object made of matter within this universe would be "too heavy" for God(s) to lift; because it is of this dimension and thus cannot be 'lifted' by something that is of a non-physical dimension.

(My reasoning confuses me)
New Manvir
10-03-2008, 22:35
Batman could lift the rock...Batman could also kick god's ass
Talemetros
10-03-2008, 22:42
What're you, 13?:p

nope 15,
Khadgar
10-03-2008, 22:44
An omnipotent being could create a rock they couldn't lift, and then lift it. To us that's impossible, when you're omnipotent the word impossible ceases to be meaningful.
Saxnot
10-03-2008, 22:44
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
EDIT: DAMN IT !

What're you, 13?:p
Soyut
10-03-2008, 22:50
Yes, God could make a rock that he couldn't lift and then he could also lift it. Thats called omnipotence or something when you can do anything even though it doesn't make any sense. Maybe that proves that God doesn't exist? Who really cares?:rolleyes:
New Manvir
10-03-2008, 22:52
:eek: run before the internet gets you!

He's already gone...once you open up that browser it gets you and you're finished...

Why, I remember the first time I...*goes on ranting*
Call to power
10-03-2008, 22:54
God would be too busy listening to AC/DC

nope 15,

:eek: run before the internet gets you!
Xomic
10-03-2008, 22:58
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
EDIT: DAMN IT !

No

Because God doesn't exist.
Call to power
10-03-2008, 23:10
He's already gone...once you open up that browser it gets you and you're finished...

considering he's now offline and has already stated hes 15, I'm guessing he has discovered the other 90% of the Internet :p

Why, I remember the first time I...*goes on ranting*

pfft like the socially backwards folk of the internet would be doing any talking for long periods of time :)
New Manvir
11-03-2008, 00:59
considering he's now offline and has already stated hes 15, I'm guessing he has discovered the other 90% of the Internet :p

Porn?



pfft like the socially backwards folk of the internet would be doing any talking for long periods of time :)

lolz
[NS]RhynoDD
11-03-2008, 01:04
He's already gone...once you open up that browser it gets you and you're finished...

Why, I remember the first time I...*goes on ranting*

More imporantly, he's on NSG. And we all know that it's just another small step from that to making your own gay porn with the gay jew muslims and not wearing a condom when you do.

And nobody wants that. Except for the gay muslim jew terrorists. They want that.

Also, don't become a btard.
Marrakech II
11-03-2008, 01:10
I suggest that he could make a rock heavy enough not to be able to move it. Exhibit A would be the Earth. Don't you think God would have hurled the Earth into the Sun long ago because of his creation(humans) gone wrong? Unless of course he is waiting until 2012??
[NS]Click Stand
11-03-2008, 01:11
Assuming god is omnipotent, then he could never make the rock in the first place. God can do anything possible, but making a rock that connot be lifted is impssible, so he cannot do it.

See, there, simple.:)
Soheran
11-03-2008, 01:13
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?

Better question: why would God care?

And even better: why should we?
Ruby City
11-03-2008, 01:18
I thought the point of religion class was to teach kids a deep and well informed understanding of people with different beliefs than their parents so they don't end up having misconceptions like "All Muslims like to blow up themselves and others.". Not to tell the kids pointless philosophical riddles.
Katganistan
11-03-2008, 01:25
Batman could lift the rock...Batman could also kick god's ass

And Chuck Norris could break wind in Batman's vicinity, scattering Batman's atoms to the wind.
Marrakech II
11-03-2008, 01:26
And Chuck Norris could break wind in Batman's vicinity, scattering Batman's atoms to the wind.

Been awhile since we had a mega Chuck Norris thread..... :p
Geniasis
11-03-2008, 01:29
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
EDIT: DAMN IT !

I've always believed this to be a silly question. It's like asking if God could draw a square circle.

And Chuck Norris could break wind in Batman's vicinity, scattering Batman's atoms to the wind.

And then Bruce Lee causes Chuck Norris's vital organs to stop functioning out of fear.
Zilam
11-03-2008, 03:24
A better question: How much wood could a wood chuck chuck, if peter piper picked a peck of seashells down by the seashore?
Marrakech II
11-03-2008, 03:51
A better question: How much wood could a wood chuck chuck, if peter piper picked a peck of seashells down by the seashore?

Chuck Norris could clearly out do the wood chuck.
New Limacon
11-03-2008, 03:59
Click Stand;13516653']Assuming god is omnipotent, then he could never make the rock in the first place. God can do anything possible, but making a rock that connot be lifted is impssible, so he cannot do it.

See, there, simple.:)

Of course, God could make it logically possible to lift a rock too heavy for him to lift, but then we wouldn't ask the question.
New Manvir
11-03-2008, 16:11
A better question: How much wood could a wood chuck chuck, if peter piper picked a peck of seashells down by the seashore?

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Ifreann
11-03-2008, 16:15
He could, but doesn't for tax reasons.
Guibou
11-03-2008, 16:20
No

Because God doesn't exist.

Damn...never thought of that one...how do you get such clever arguments???
Talemetros
11-03-2008, 17:57
considering he's now offline and has already stated hes 15, I'm guessing he has discovered the other 90% of the Internet :p
:)

nah, at school NS is banned, and my laptop was missing yesterday
Kamsaki-Myu
11-03-2008, 18:05
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
Yep. It's easy. All God needs to do is turn himself into a rock.
Talemetros
11-03-2008, 18:06
Better question: why would God care?

And even better: why should we?

better question: if you dont care, why are you posting?
Dyakovo
11-03-2008, 18:15
better question: if you dont care, why are you posting?

Because like the rest of us NSG regulars he's got nothing better to do...
Soheran
12-03-2008, 01:35
better question: if you dont care, why are you posting?

You misunderstand. I am neither criticizing the thread nor even the question.

My point is really to suggest a kind of answer to the paradox: "It doesn't matter." So God might be incompletely omnipotent in a certain sense. He is still functionally omnipotent--it makes no difference to us, to Him, or to anything else (except certain kinds of rocks.)
New Limacon
12-03-2008, 01:41
considering he's now offline and has already stated hes 15, I'm guessing he has discovered the other 90% of the Internet :p

NSG takes up 10% of the Internet? That would explain my connection speed.
Fall of Empire
12-03-2008, 01:44
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
EDIT: DAMN IT !

If God existed and created everything within the universe, then he presumably created logic and could transcend it with effortless ease by creating a rock that he could and couldn't carry at the same time. If God created logic, then I doubt he would force himself to abide by it when creating the rock, meaning he could perform two seemingly contradictory acts at the same time.

Think of it as double-think jesus style.

Provided, of course, that you believe in God.
Sel Appa
12-03-2008, 03:23
here is a question that was posed in my religion class, and i wanted NSG to give their opinion:
could god make a rock so heavy he couldnt carry it ?
EDIT: DAMN IT !
It's these conundrums that disprove the existence of a supreme being.
Big Jim P
12-03-2008, 03:30
I don't know, I've never tried.
Soheran
12-03-2008, 03:32
It's these conundrums that disprove the existence of a supreme being.

Why is supremeness over Himself necessary to be supreme?