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OOOOOKlahoma where the homophobia runs through the land! Where fag bashing...

Well I never said I could sing.

Anyway somebody is mad she were taped! :)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/09/oklahoma-state-rep-goes-on-anti-gay-tirade/


Oh and if this topic was already done then I apologize. The search keeps telling me that I am under four words no matter what I put in....

“Homophobia: the worst disease.
You can’t love who you want to love in times like these.”

Well, she is claiming back homo-haytin for the wimmin folk....

O.o
This thread is senseless. I'm writting to the Pope to make threads like this a sin. TESTIFY!!

I saw this video and she's playing the 'free speech' card. Let me tell you, the right to free speech was never meant as a shield against consequences.

Yeah...she even acknowledges that in her tirade.

God this is disgusting to listen to...:headbang: Especially this whole shit about society's that have fully embraced homosexuality only lasting a few decades at most. Yeah, because Canada's collapsing into anarchy.

...

Oh, wait, they're one of the happiest, most economically powerful nations in the world.

I saw this video and she’s playing the ‘free speech’ card. Let me tell you, the right to free speech was never meant as a shield against consequences.
No, but isn’t a good thing, in a way, that she said this. Now probably hundreds, if not thousands, of her constituents have heard this tirade. They know her views. They can (hopefully) kick her out of office come the next election.

I actually had an argument with a woman who took much the same line as this old bat...After a few hundred posts and many twists and turns, she also elaborated on what else the "Gay agenda" was about (which was something that she'd hinted at obliquely). Not content with turning the world Homo, the same powers were promoting the ultimate evil of..................................(please take off the good underwear now................).......................... MIXING OF THE RACES. Yes. Who would have thunk it.

People like this amuse me.

... then make me sad.

What about gay terrorists?

RhynoDD;13516123']What about gay terrorists?

Silly goose, everyone knows all terrorists are Muslims and Muslims hate gays.

I saw this video and she's playing the 'free speech' card. Let me tell you, the right to free speech was never meant as a shield against consequences.

And if she completes the circle of Republican homophobes, there's a 25% chance she'll get caught with a lesbian prostitute later on.

And if she completes the circle of Republican homophobes, there's a 25% chance she'll get caught with a lesbian prostitute later on.

Start checking the bathrooms! :D

RhynoDD;13516160']Except for the gay muslim terrorists. They hide bombs in their bums instead of their shoes. You can spot them by their rainbow turbans.

LOL!!

It's sad but not surprising that such sentiments are alive and well many places :(

Yeah...she even acknowledges that in her tirade.

God this is disgusting to listen to...:headbang: Especially this whole shit about society's that have fully embraced homosexuality only lasting a few decades at most. Yeah, because Canada's collapsing into anarchy.

...

Oh, wait, they're one of the happiest, most economically powerful nations in the world.

As is Scandinavia, and Holland...

But lets' forget about Europe (like the old Greek empire for example) - because everyone knows that Europe is besieged by gay Islamofascist neonazi commies :)

clearly an idiot, makes you wonder if people in charge are more stupid than they appear to be.
"infiltrating our schools and the schools are indoctrinating..." just plain ignorance, so many people should be power but her.

I expect this kind of drivel to be rampant in places like Oklahoma anyway, so hearing this is no surprise.

No offense to any fair minded Oklahomans on this board, of course. :)

As is Scandinavia, and Holland...

But lets' forget about Europe (like the old Greek empire for example) - because everyone knows that Europe is besieged by gay Islamofascist neonazi commies :)

I am constantly and consistently amused by how the whole "Eurabia/IslamoEurope/whatever" craze is mostly confined to the United States and how few that actually live in Europe even consider the idea as potentially valid, let alone actually happening.

Silly goose, everyone knows all terrorists are Muslims and Muslims hate gays.

Except for the gay muslim terrorists. They hide bombs in their bums instead of their shoes. You can spot them by their rainbow turbans.

RhynoDD;13516160']Except for the gay muslim terrorists. They hide bombs in their bums instead of their shoes. You can spot them by their rainbow turbans.

And they use time bombs. They keep bombing Jolt all day, every day.

RhynoDD;13516160']Except for the gay muslim terrorists. They hide bombs in their bums instead of their shoes. You can spot them by their rainbow condoms.

Fixed.

As is Scandinavia, and Holland...

But lets' forget about Europe (like the old Greek empire for example) - because everyone knows that Europe is besieged by gay Islamofascist neonazi commies :)

Yep. That's why European politicians are served by blue eyed blonde men in speedos and their wives are covered in burqas, to cover up their feminity.

Fixed.

I do take offense, sir, as I wasn't aware of the need for my post to be fixed.

Clearly you are a gay muslim atheist terrorist buttsexrobotbabyeatinghippy trying to throw us off with your "rainbow condoms".

I am constantly and consistently amused by how the whole "Eurabia/IslamoEurope/whatever" craze is mostly confined to the United States and how few that actually live in Europe even consider the idea as potentially valid, let alone actually happening.
It's fun! :D

Though there are also, unfortunately, some Europeans that seem to believe it is happening in Europe...

Silly people.
Yep. That's why European politicians are served by blue eyed blonde men in speedos and their wives are covered in burqas, to cover up their feminity.

They're taking over the US too! :eek:

I mean, just look at David Hasslehoff in a speedo...

OOOOOKlahoma where the homophobia runs through the land! Where fag bashing...

Well I never said I could sing.

Anyway somebody is mad she were taped! :)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/09/oklahoma-state-rep-goes-on-anti-gay-tirade/


Oh and if this topic was already done then I apologize. The search keeps telling me that I am under four words no matter what I put in....

oooh, she's got this complete uber-homo secret society indoctrination conspiracy thing going....

the scary part is that no one laughed at her... either she was scaring them to death, and they didn't speak for fear of her wrath... or they were all nodding their heads in agreement...

I mailed the hag.

Here's the message:

I had the displeasure of listening to your homophobic rant, and I realized something:

That people like you have a job whereas people that actually went to school and know something don't is one of the most perplexing facts about humanity.

If mankind ever meets another sentient species, we will have to try to prevent them from knowing your kind exists, lest you shame us in front of them.

Rejoice, however: Your rant crossed countries and reached even me, a Brazilian. The world knows what a terrible person you are.

J.L.

Her e-mail, should you want to add:

sallykern@okhouse.gov

Oh, Sally, you are the living end.

I listened to about half of it on Youtube, usual idiocy. The depressing part was the number of people defending her.

I cannot believe crap like this could come out of anyone's mouth (other than Fred Phelps and Co. or John Hagee), especially not a politician's. Ok, I take that back, I can believe it. I guess I just don't want to.

I live in Oklahoma. I love my state. But the fact a freakin' REPRESENTATIVE said crap like that... It really drives me up the wall.

I have half a mind to email her office and tell her what I think. Although I'm sure whatever I would say has already been said, and would have no effect on her whatsoever.

I too have sent her a e-mail. Hope she likes goatse! :)








































That was a joke btw.

I cannot believe crap like this could come out of anyone's mouth (other than Fred Phelps and Co. or John Hagee), especially not a politician's. Ok, I take that back, I can believe it. I guess I just don't want to.

I live in Oklahoma. I love my state. But the fact a freakin' REPRESENTATIVE said crap like that... It really drives me up the wall.

I have half a mind to email her office and tell her what I think. Although I'm sure whatever I would say has already been said, and would have no effect on her whatsoever.

Write it anyway. They don't listen to the words of one person; they listen to the number of people saying the words.

Ok, this is my email. Tell me what you think:


"You, ma'am, do not represent me. I am a citizen of Oklahoma and I can say with quite a bit of certainty that if I'd been old enough to vote when you came into office (and if I lived in your God-forsaken district), I wouldn't have voted for you.

People like you are what's wrong with this country, not people like me. If anyone's trying to indoctrinate young children, it's probably those people like you. So what if we want children to be open-minded? But no, they have to be sheltered, narrow-minded, good little Christian boys and girls. Like everyone should be.

You are probably going to be fired. Which is a good thing, believe me--Oklahoma doesn't need a prick like you helping to run its government. However, I know for a fact that there are still pricks like you in the government, and only getting rid of one of them won't help much.

You are ruining the state and the country, ma'am. Get out."


I'm sure I could've written more, but I'm too pissed off to think of much...

Wow, its people like that who make me wonder if that sound I keep hearing is the sound of the bellows from the holocaust chambers that are being prepared to "purify" our country and rid them of evil, shifty homosexuals.

People like her are the reason that the Nazis gained a foothold in Germany, and people like her are the reason that 11 million people met their gruesome end in the most horrifying way while a nation stood idly by.

I guess hatred and prejudice never goes out of style for some people.

Wow, its people like that who make me wonder if that sound I keep hearing is the sound of the bellows from the holocaust chambers that are being prepared to "purify" our country and rid them of evil, shifty homosexuals.

People like her are the reason that the Nazis gained a foothold in Germany, and people like her are the reason that 11 million people met their gruesome end in the most horrifying way while a nation stood idly by.

I guess hatred and prejudice never goes out of style for some people.

gotta be careful mate, in case you don't turn into what you hate the most.
As some folks say, constant exposure to danger breeds contempt for it.

I think you should say just that, but in a less flamy and agressive tone.

Too late...

i've told her she's a tard.

Ok, this is my email. Tell me what you think:


"You, ma'am, do not represent me. I am a citizen of Oklahoma and I can say with quite a bit of certainty that if I'd been old enough to vote when you came into office (and if I lived in your God-forsaken district), I wouldn't have voted for you.

People like you are what's wrong with this country, not people like me. If anyone's trying to indoctrinate young children, it's probably those people like you. So what if we want children to be open-minded? But no, they have to be sheltered, narrow-minded, good little Christian boys and girls. Like everyone should be.

You are probably going to be fired. Which is a good thing, believe me--Oklahoma doesn't need a prick like you helping to run its government. However, I know for a fact that there are still pricks like you in the government, and only getting rid of one of them won't help much.

You are ruining the state and the country, ma'am. Get out."


I'm sure I could've written more, but I'm too pissed off to think of much...

I think you should say just that, but in a less flamy and agressive tone.

oooh, she's got this complete uber-homo secret society indoctrination conspiracy thing going....

the scary part is that no one laughed at her... either she was scaring them to death, and they didn't speak for fear of her wrath... or they were all nodding their heads in agreement...

Wanna bet it was the last one?

I mailed the hag.

Here's the message:



Her e-mail, should you want to add:

sallykern@okhouse.gov
You sure that's the right address?

I sent an e-mail too:

Representative Kern:

I listened to your speech on homosexuality, and I have to say I was dismayed and quite concerned by the ignorance displayed in your statements. You made many accusations and claims that are simply not backed up by evidence. For example, you claimed that society's that "fully embrace homosexuality crumble within a few decades." This has never been shown to be true. In fact, Canada, The Netherlands, and the Scandanavian countries where homosexual marriage is legal have not only not started to collapse into anarchy, but have in fact increased in both being happy societies as well as economically powerful societies. If you wish to hold to these claims, I would like to request you provide some actual evidence rather than blind hatred.

Furthermore, it is my opinion that you should note some hypocrisy in your statements. You spoke against indoctrination but that is exactly what your speech is attempting to do: indoctrinate. Only, your speech would indoctrinate hatred and fear.

I urge you to reconsider your statements, and to please do some research into homosexuality. Speak with homosexuals. Find out about homosexuals. I am certain that once you do you will find that your current beliefs about homosexuality are mistaken. You are obviously an intelligent person or else you would not hold the office you do, and therefore I am confident you will be able to understand if you make the attempt.

Respectfully,
(My name), Colorado Resident

You sure that's the right address?

I saw it on the page. o_O

I saw it on the page. o_O
Which page, the youtube page, or her page?

I sent her an E-mail also.

The problem with gay terrorists is that they enjoy it when you do a body-cavity search.

In all honesty, gays probably are more of a threat than terrorism. Take that how you want.

In all honesty, gays probably are more of a threat than terrorism. Take that how you want.

Well, there's about 10% homosexuals among humans. There's >1% terrorists.

So the question then becomes, can the 10% commit enough violent crimes and murders that they'd exceed the death toll of terrorists? Furthermore, should homosexual terrorists be counted in both or should they be discarded?

If so, I would like to declare the following: Women are more of a threat than terrorists. Men are more of a threat than terrorists.

In all honesty, gays probably are more of a threat than terrorism. Take that how you want.

I do hope that only means terrorism is beyond insignificant. Otherwise, that's a rather contemptuous statement.



But this just absolutely disgusts me. What the hell is problem with living life just like every other human being? Is it really that damn wrong to want to be happy? Demonizing what you hate because you hate it, not because it is legitimately bad because it would be self-evident how bad it was. Ugh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-id4GKsaQk

:)

I saw this video and she's playing the 'free speech' card. Let me tell you, the right to free speech was never meant as a shield against consequences.


Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Since when should we honour your guys free speech to discriminate her for discriminating... but not her initial discrimination?

Let her hold whatever views she wants, and let her say whatever she wants... does it affect you guys if she is a homophobe? More than likely not.

Stop fighting ignorance with ignorance and learn to tolerate other peoples views, like good little liberals are supposed to (except, without the hypocrisy).

OOOOOKlahoma where the homophobia runs through the land! Where fag bashing...

Well I never said I could sing.

Anyway somebody is mad she were taped! :)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/09/oklahoma-state-rep-goes-on-anti-gay-tirade/


Oh and if this topic was already done then I apologize. The search keeps telling me that I am under four words no matter what I put in....


Isn't it true though?! I mean my dike of a grandmother and her partner are horrible people. They are both medical professionals and help people everyday! And all the love they show me! Its sickening. Good thing they will burn in hell.:rolleyes:

I am so effing tired of homophobes. Regardless of how you feel about it in a religious sense, you just don't go around bashing some one because they like to have sex with someone of the same sex. Why is that so damn bad? I can't wrap my mind around it.

What the blue bloody fuck are you talking about??? :confused:

I think what they meant to say was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWwyjmSbJPs

-nods-

Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Since when should we honour your guys free speech to discriminate her for discriminating... but not her initial discrimination?

Let her hold whatever views she wants, and let her say whatever she wants... does it affect you guys if she is a homophobe? More than likely not.

Stop fighting ignorance with ignorance and learn to tolerate other peoples views, like good little liberals are supposed to (except, without the hypocrisy).

As a representative, people might be very interested in knowing her opinions, since she'll be taking state decisions based on them.

Hence, sure, she can spout of this bullshit, but there'll be consequences. One way or another, there'll be consequences.

Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Since when should we honour your guys free speech to discriminate her for discriminating... but not her initial discrimination?

Let her hold whatever views she wants, and let her say whatever she wants... does it affect you guys if she is a homophobe? More than likely not.

Stop fighting ignorance with ignorance and learn to tolerate other peoples views, like good little liberals are supposed to (except, without the hypocrisy).


What the blue bloody fuck are you talking about??? :confused:

I actually had an argument with a woman who took much the same line as this old bat...After a few hundred posts and many twists and turns, she also elaborated on what else the "Gay agenda" was about (which was something that she'd hinted at obliquely). Not content with turning the world Homo, the same powers were promoting the ultimate evil of..................................(please take off the good underwear now................).......................... MIXING OF THE RACES. Yes. Who would have thunk it.

Yes, the power of the gay illuminati is indeed vast and widespread. Of course they are helped further by the all powerful vast jewish conspiracy which furthers its goal of controling the world media and spreading acceptance and liberalism across teh world. Soon, our society maybe, *gasp*, completely accepting of things that are merely different from us. How absolutely horrid.

I think what they meant to say was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWwyjmSbJPs

-nods-

Oh, good. That makes considerably more sense that suggesting that politicians shouldn't be judged by the public based on their spoken opinions.

Though that video confuses me more than ever. :(

Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

Because, while everyone has free speech, not everyone is protected from the consequences of this speech.

Since when should we honour your guys free speech to discriminate her for discriminating... but not her initial discrimination?

This doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense to me, but I'll try to answer anyway. It isn't discrimination to express disdain for irrational people like her. It's called common sense. People should realize baseless is wrong.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Nice quote of Voltaire. May as well have quoted a clown (No offense to LG), as it would be about as relevant. You aren't a martyr because you can claim to support rights while in all actuality doing nothing but destroying them.

Let her hold whatever views she wants, and let her say whatever she wants... does it affect you guys if she is a homophobe? More than likely not.

Now then, I should remind you that this woman is a state representative. She does affect me. Her opinion means I have to suffer. I do believe that's worthy of expressing disdain.

Stop fighting ignorance with ignorance and learn to tolerate other peoples views, like good little liberals are supposed to (except, without the hypocrisy).

Ignorance can't counter itself, merely breeds among others more quickly than it is killed. I also love the political label snipe there, but no. I don't tolerate unfounded, irrational hate. Nobody of any degree of intellect does, either.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now

The Roman Empire was also populated by a large number of people who breathed.

Fuck. Guess we're screwed. :rolleyes:

Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world

Let them try.

In all honesty, gays probably are more of a threat than terrorism. Take that how you want.

What, are they going to attack our fashion sense? Or out-man us?

Ahh countering ridiculous statement with ridiculous statement.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

The Roman Empire only fell after adopting Christianity which opposes homosexuality.

What the blue bloody fuck are you talking about??? :confused:

Respecting free speech means you can't disagree with anyone's speech, especially when one's free speech is a call for legislative action against a particular group of individuals.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

Wow. I bet you wish you knew anything about history right now.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

The Soviet Union opposed homosexuality. And look where they are now...

GONE.

O SHI

Respecting free speech means you can't disagree with anyone's speech, especially when one's free speech is a call for legislative action against a particular group of individuals.

Is this a joke? Just because we have free speech in this country (that I'll fight to the death to have), doesn't mean when someone says a stupid things that you can't oppose that idea using freedom of speech.

Is this a joke? Just because we have free speech in this country (that I'll fight to the death to have), doesn't mean when someone says a stupid things that you can't oppose that idea using freedom of speech.

"I disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it, and later beat you thoroughly for saying it if I survive, dumbass."

Oh and if this topic was already done then I apologize. The search keeps telling me that I am under four words no matter what I put in....

It was already posted, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551477).

I don't really mind though, it wasn't titled in an obvious way.

To those who think 'free speech' has no consequences, you might want to take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMEL3_YsVI

To allow misconceived opinions such as this to be aired, by an elected representative no less, leads to an atmosphere of hate for a specific group of people, which in turn leads to tragic events as above.

For me, I feel she deserves some penalty, perhaps that penalty will be served by airing her speech as much as possible and hoping she isn't elected again.

She should feel terrible for talking like this, she probably doesn't and all the emails in the world will probably just strengthen her opinion that there's a gay conspiracy in America to indoctrinate children.

Yet look at what the current indoctrination leads to, it's simply appalling.

OOOOOKlahoma where the homophobia runs through the land! Where fag bashing...

Well I never said I could sing.

Anyway somebody is mad she were taped! :)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/09/oklahoma-state-rep-goes-on-anti-gay-tirade/


She totally forgot to mention that gays make people stupid and ignorant. She's living proof. :p

I'm so glad that this lady is just a state senator from Oklahoma. Yeah she hates gays thats why the Republican party is full of them.



I should also mention Voltaire was also gay.

Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

I doubt Voltaire would have agreed with people shouting "Fire!" in crowded places.

And I'm fairly certain Free speech doesn't mean I get to send you a half dozen death threats and not be picked up by the police.

Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now


Nazi Germany turned homosexuals into lamps or just ashes when they had enough lamps of homosexual human skin.

Where are they now?

I guess you want America to be regularly carpet bombed, utterly devastated by foreign powers, and then occupied by two diametrically opposed powers while they carve America up into itty bitty pieces.

Good on you.

Nazi Germany turned homosexuals into lamps or just ashes when they had enough lamps of homosexual human skin.

Where are they now?

I guess you want America to be regularly carpet bombed, utterly devastated by foreign powers, and then occupied by two diametrically opposed powers while they carve America up into itty bitty pieces.

Good on you.

GODWIN'S LAW! /THREAD

Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Since when should we honour your guys free speech to discriminate her for discriminating... but not her initial discrimination?

Let her hold whatever views she wants, and let her say whatever she wants... does it affect you guys if she is a homophobe? More than likely not.

Stop fighting ignorance with ignorance and learn to tolerate other peoples views, like good little liberals are supposed to (except, without the hypocrisy).

When it is dark, I turn on the light. The effect at first is that I continue to be blind. At times it has even been painful and I loudly curse it, but, eventually, I become used to the light and realize it allows me to see the world as it is.

And so it is with ignorance when we shine upon it with knowledge and understanding.

RhynoDD;13517164']GODWIN'S LAW! /THREAD

Good. Because really, it's just going to devolve into tolerance/intolerance spam if it keeps going on.

Besides, Godwin's law is meant to apply to comparing a person to Nazism. I'm comparing policy.

Yeah... unfortunately, even though many of the gay embracing nations don't exist anymore, they all were fantastic and added a great deal to culture today. (Greece, Macedonia)

And anyone who says that gays can't be tough.... Sparta encouraged homosexuality and Alexander the Great was gay.

A more contemporary example is Alexander Hamilton. The lists go on and on.

Leonardo Da Vinci was frequently harassed for his relationships with his apprentices

Basically, gays have done a huge portion of the productive things in this world, so leave them be and maybe they can help change things 'round here.

I mailed the hag.

Her e-mail, should you want to add:

sallykern@okhouse.gov

Nice message. I was a bit more terse, taking her to task for wasting taxpayers' (and at least SOME gay taxpayers') money on this issue and asking her if that was the issue she went to OKC for -- was that her campaign stance. Pandering to the simpleminded and scared is shameful, and I told her so. I then emailed the link to my entire address book. All 215 of them. Many of them gay. The OK House email server is probably headed for a meltdown soon.

And anyone who says that gays can't be tough.... Sparta encouraged homosexuality and Alexander the Great was gay.

He was bi, actually.

Thats exactly what free speech is about, regardless of whether the consequences are merited or not... the whole idea of free speech is based around this idea entirely.

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."
-Voltaire

Since when should we honour your guys free speech to discriminate her for discriminating... but not her initial discrimination?

Let her hold whatever views she wants, and let her say whatever she wants... does it affect you guys if she is a homophobe? More than likely not.

Stop fighting ignorance with ignorance and learn to tolerate other peoples views, like good little liberals are supposed to (except, without the hypocrisy).

Uh...did anyone say that she had no RIGHT to say what she said? No. Did anyone say that she should have been stopped from saying what she said? No (in fact, many are glad she said it in order to illuminate her stupidity).

What we (and if you think that "good little liberals" are the only ones saying that Rep. Kern was off her nut, you didn't read the thread) ARE saying is that she can and should be made to answer for her words.

Big ol' difference there, pal. Once you grow up and figure that out, you'll be much happier.

Good. Because really, it's just going to devolve into tolerance/intolerance spam if it keeps going on.

Besides, Godwin's law is meant to apply to comparing a person to Nazism. I'm comparing policy.

Either way.

You're like Hitler and the Nazis.

Godwin's Law.

/thread

RhynoDD;13517247']Either way.

You're like Hitler and the Nazis.

Godwin's Law.

/thread

Attempting to use Godwin to shut down a thread nullifies it.

Attempting to use Godwin to shut down a thread nullifies it.

Wasn't the first person to bring up Nazism. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13517157&postcount=71)

I was justifying my previous (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13517164&postcount=72) mention of it.


Nazi.

RhynoDD;13517301']Nazi.

>.>

<.<

...

How did you know?

(jk) :p

>.>

<.<

...

How did you know?

(jk) :p

The swastika shaved into your buzz-cut was a good indication.

Freedom of speech is freedom to speak without being censored. Couldn't the government's restrictions and involvement (at any level) of something we simply say (be it death threats, meetings with prostitutes, what have you) be an infringement of that fundamental freedom?

Consequences doesn't mean that the government has to intervene. Her constituents seem to be addressing the problem just fine, and I'm sure next election time she will face the consequences. Also, consequences can be things like what people thing of you, how they perceive you etc. That isn't infringing on free speech, it's just making her own up to what she said and it doesn't impede upon free speech at all.

I doubt Voltaire would have agreed with people shouting "Fire!" in crowded places.

And I'm fairly certain Free speech doesn't mean I get to send you a half dozen death threats and not be picked up by the police.

Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences.

Freedom of speech is freedom to speak without being censored. Couldn't the government's restrictions and involvement (at any level) of something we simply say (be it death threats, meetings with prostitutes, what have you) be an infringement of that fundamental freedom?

Freedom of speech is freedom to speak without being censored. Couldn't the government's restrictions and involvement (at any level) of something we simply say (be it death threats, meetings with prostitutes, what have you) be an infringement of that fundamental freedom?

No, because free speech doesn't mean it won't cause violations of the law. Causing a panic by shouting "fire" in a crowded room, or inciting others to riot, or telling people to fly airplanes into buildings can be considered "free speech", but it won't fly in any court of law as a defense.

100% freedom of speech is just an aspect of anarchy, and governments don't like anarchy. And no, it isn't a fundamental freedom either. It's basically something you can do and like to call it fundamental.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now.

…

A more contemporary example is Alexander Hamilton.

And look where he is now. He's dead!

I listened to about half of it on Youtube, usual idiocy. The depressing part was the number of people defending her.

Hell, it's Youtube.

HA!
good idea!
If it happens the way I hope, myspace might melt too, but people would be in the know at least!

the pen is mightier, :sniper:
-Rafe

//SNIPPED FOR RELEVANCE\\ I then emailed the link to my entire address book. All 215 of them. Many of them gay. The OK House email server is probably headed for a meltdown soon.

As is Scandinavia, and Holland...

But lets' forget about Europe (like the old Greek empire for example) - because everyone knows that Europe is besieged by gay Islamofascist neonazi commies :)

Hey! We are not gay, you moron! We maybe fascist, but we are AGAINST all GAY!! And Neo-Nazi will never want to be allied with commies, BTW.

Hey! We are not gay, you moron! We maybe fascist, but we are AGAINST all GAY!!

Oh, okay, well that's all right then.

Oh, okay, well that's all right then.

Let me say it one more time.
DEATH TO ALL GAYS!

As is Scandinavia, and Holland...


And Belgium, Spain (for actually marriages*), France, Germany, UK, Switzerland, Portugal,Luxemburg...

In fact pretty much anywhere in the west EU (Italy and Ireland are debating it) have some form of marriage or civil partnerships, legal protection against discrimination etc... and of course all these nations are just falling apart.



* It does amuse me that two of the more catholic countries in the EU are two of the few to actually accept gay marriage instead of civil partnerships. The only other one is Holland (Scandinavia is civil parternships still).

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

Barring the obvious issues with historical accuracy in this quote, I feel the best thing to say to this is:

"[...] apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

* It does amuse me that two of the more catholic countries in the EU are two of the few to actually accept gay marriage instead of civil partnerships. The only other one is Holland (Scandinavia is civil parternships still).
It's because of the Socialist government and the fact that the people didn't listen to the Church's hints that they should vote for the conservatives.

I found their insignia!:eek:
http://www.dumbening.com/images/10134.jpg

Poverty kills 6 million children each year.

World wide, one in every three women has been beaten by an intimate partner.

300,000 people die each year from whooping cough, a preventable illness for which there is already a vaccine.

One in every 100 Americans is in prison.


And yet, for some reason, there are people selfish and heartless enough to claim that we should all be worrying about consensual same-sex relationships.

there is nothing wrong with gays and all terrorists are muslims but not all muslims are terrorists.

The IRA are Muslim?

Someone had better inform them...

there is nothing wrong with gays and all terrorists are muslims but not all muslims are terrorists.

Countries that are comfortable with same sex relationships are never the ones that commit genocide.

there is nothing wrong with gays and all terrorists are muslims but not all muslims are terrorists.

Well, a slight correction. Terrorists can come from other places. FARC is a terrorist organization, to me, and it's Colombian. IRA is also a terrorist organization and it's from Ireland. ETA is a terrorist organization, and it's Basque. It is a common misconception to think that all terrorists are Muslim. But it's true that not all Muslims are terrorists or believe in violence.

True - it's probably more accurate to say that "currently, the majority of terrorist acts are committed in the name of Islam". Just 20 years ago, the majority of terrorist acts were committed in the name of Communism.

Arguably 20 years ago most terrorist acts were committed in the name of nationalism/separatism

Let me say it one more time.
DEATH TO ALL GAYS!

Look.

Look into a mirror and despair.

Poverty kills 6 million children each year.

World wide, one in every three women has been beaten by an intimate partner.

300,000 people die each year from whooping cough, a preventable illness for which there is already a vaccine.

One in every 100 Americans is in prison.


And yet, for some reason, there are people selfish and heartless enough to claim that we should all be worrying about consensual same-sex relationships.

Quoth Lewis Black: "Gay marriage as an issue is WAY down on the list. As a legitimate concern, it's right around 'are we eating too much garlic as a people'."

Just 20 years ago, the majority of terrorist acts were committed in the name of Communism.

The IRA , ETA, Palestinian groups? Yes there were some very small communist groups but not many. Even some of the terrorist acts supposedly by communist groups were carried out by right-wing agent provacteurs - Klaus Barbie was employed by the US to set up such groups in Europe to discredit communism.

Well, a slight correction. Terrorists can come from other places. FARC is a terrorist organization, to me, and it's Colombian. IRA is also a terrorist organization and it's from Ireland. ETA is a terrorist organization, and it's Basque. It is a common misconception to think that all terrorists are Muslim. But it's true that not all Muslims are terrorists or believe in violence.

True - it's probably more accurate to say that "currently, the majority of terrorist acts are committed in the name of Islam". Just 20 years ago, the majority of terrorist acts were committed in the name of Communism.

True - it's probably more accurate to say that "currently, the majority of terrorist acts are committed in the name of Islam". Just 20 years ago, the majority of terrorist acts were committed in the name of Communism.
For anybody who is interested in some numbers on this subject, you can check out the MIPT Knowledge Base.

It does appear that the majority of terrorist incidents--world wide--are by religious groups, and the majority of those attacks are by groups which identify themselves as Muslim. However, one should not ignore organizations like the Lord's Resistance Army (Christian-affiliated). The people they kill are just as dead as the people killed by Muslim terrorists.

True - it's probably more accurate to say that "currently, the majority of terrorist acts are committed in the name of Islam". Just 20 years ago, the majority of terrorist acts were committed in the name of Communism.

Yeah, causes change. I just hope that in 15 years we're not gonna have people committing terrorist acts in the name of tofu or red meat, you know. That would suck.

What... the... fuck...

For anybody who is interested in some numbers on this subject, you can check out the MIPT Knowledge Base.

It does appear that the majority of terrorist incidents--world wide--are by religious groups, and the majority of those attacks are by groups which identify themselves as Muslim. However, one should not ignore organizations like the Lord's Resistance Army (Christian-affiliated). The people they kill are just as dead as the people killed by Muslim terrorists.

I'm not ignoring the others. But, in terms of sheer numbers...

If you hear about a hijacked airliner being blown up in the sky, odds are it was done in the name of Islam.

Throat cut live on the Internet? Name of Islam.

Yes, other people do bad things too. But not with the amazing frequency of "in the name of the prophet Muhammed, PBUH"

Quoth Lewis Black: "Gay marriage as an issue is WAY down on the list. As a legitimate concern, it's right around 'are we eating too much garlic as a people'."
Bingo.

Considering the actual problems confronting the world today, I'd go so far as to say that any person who puts "gay marriage" at the top of their list of concerns is a giant gaping smelly asshole.

The IRA are Muslim?

Someone had better inform them...The Basques too.

I'm not ignoring the others. But, in terms of sheer numbers...

If you hear about a hijacked airliner being blown up in the sky, odds are it was done in the name of Islam.

Throat cut live on the Internet? Name of Islam.

Yes, other people do bad things too. But not with the amazing frequency of "in the name of the prophet Muhammed, PBUH"
I guess it's a personal thing.

My first exposure to dangerous religious nutters was when David Koresh's pseudo-Christian sect went apeshit. My first introduction to terrorism was the OK City bombing. When I hear about a building being blown up, I don't immediately picture swarthy Arabs. I picture a white American man.

I suppose this is a very America-centric view on my part. In my part of the world, the terrorists I have to fear are predominantly white Christians. They're not blowing shit up for Allah, they're blowing shit up for Nationalism, White Pride, animal rights, or because they don't like the right to choose.

The Basques too.

The IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army) (Irish Republican Army) is from Ireland.

The Basques are from the Basque Country in Spain, and the ETA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA) (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) originates from there. Neither of these 2 organizations are Muslim.

Taking a good look at the links I provided would teach you all a great deal.;)

sallykern@okhouse.gov Send her your thoughts

I guess it's a personal thing.

My first exposure to dangerous religious nutters was when David Koresh's pseudo-Christian sect went apeshit. My first introduction to terrorism was the OK City bombing. When I hear about a building being blown up, I don't immediately picture swarthy Arabs. I picture a white American man.

I suppose this is a very America-centric view on my part. In my part of the world, the terrorists I have to fear are predominantly white Christians. They're not blowing shit up for Allah, they're blowing shit up for Nationalism, White Pride, animal rights, or because they don't like the right to choose.

Well, I don't view it from a "terror" point of view when I think of danger from violence in America.

Most violent crime in the US occurs in the urban areas, and half of the violence is black on black violence. I'm not black, so my odds just dropped there.

Just to avoid being "in the crossfire" I avoid urban areas, especially on Friday and Saturday nights.

Statistically speaking, you're far more likely to be beaten, shot, stabbed, or robbed in an urban area by an African-American than you are by some white guy trying to blow up an abortion clinic.

To see this disparity in violence, all you have to do is go to a major urban trauma center. African-Americans are grossly overrepresented there as both victims and shooters.

Dead is dead - whether it's just local violence or "terror".

Well, I don't view it from a "terror" point of view when I think of danger from violence in America.

Most violent crime in the US occurs in the urban areas, and half of the violence is black on black violence. I'm not black, so my odds just dropped there.

Just to avoid being "in the crossfire" I avoid urban areas, especially on Friday and Saturday nights.

Statistically speaking, you're far more likely to be beaten, shot, stabbed, or robbed in an urban area by an African-American than you are by some white guy trying to blow up an abortion clinic.

Actually, statistically speaking I am more likely to be beaten, raped, or murdered by a white man who is known to me.

Ahh, the perks of being female.

Actually, statistically speaking I am more likely to be beaten, raped, or murdered by a white man who is known to me.

Ahh, the perks of being female.

Depends on what area of town you are in...

Depends on what area of town you are in...
Sadly, no it does not. No matter where I move, in the USA this will always remain the case for me. It was true when I lived in downtown Murderopolis (S Minneapolis), it's true in DC, and it will be true even if I move to a nice quiet small town.

Sadly, no it does not. No matter where I move, in the USA this will always remain the case for me. It was true when I lived in downtown Murderopolis (S Minneapolis), it's true in DC, and it will be true even if I move to a nice quiet small town.

Actually, in downtown DC, it's not true. But then again, the local sample is skewed - there are not very many white people actually living in the city.

Same for some southern towns. You might have a hard time finding a white guy.

Actually, in downtown DC, it's not true.

Yep, it is. Statistically speaking, I am currently more likely to be assaulted, raped, or murdered by a white man who is known to me. I live and work in downtown DC. (I also work in a medical center and volunteer at a clinic occasionally, and I've read the pamphlets :D).


But then again, the local sample is skewed - there are not very many white people actually living in the city.

40% of the population is white. I guess you'd consider that "not many" white people if you're used to living in predominantly white cities, but to me it seems like plenty.

Yep, it is. Statistically speaking, I am currently more likely to be assaulted, raped, or murdered by a white man who is known to me. I live and work in downtown DC. (I also work in a medical center and volunteer at a clinic occasionally, and I've read the pamphlets :D).


40% of the population is white. I guess you'd consider that "not many" white people if you're used to living in predominantly white cities, but to me it seems like plenty.

You would also be far more at risk if you were personally a young African-American male.

You would also be far more at risk if you were personally a young African-American male.
This is true. If I were an African-American male living where I live, my primary fear when it came to terrorism would be fear of White Nationalist groups. My primary fear in terms of non-terroristic violence would be fear of other African-American males.

This is true. If I were an African-American male living where I live, my primary fear when it came to terrorism would be fear of White Nationalist groups. My primary fear in terms of non-terroristic violence would be fear of other African-American males.

In 94% of cases involving the murder of an African-American male, the assailant is another African-American male.

The IRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army) (Irish Republican Army) is from Ireland.

The Basques are from the Basque Country in Spain, and the ETA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA) (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) originates from there. Neither of these 2 organizations are Muslim.

Taking a good look at the links I provided would teach you all a great deal.;)=/

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Irony2.jpg

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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Irony2.jpg

O__o

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

Thank goodness common sense and intelligence aren't widespread, otherwise This person might realize that most historians agree that it was in fact christianity that was the downfall of the Roman Empire and *not* homosexuality. The empire lasted for 503 years and let me ask you, how long has our "god blessed" american nation been around? only about 200. Not only did this "evil homosexual" empire last a hella long time, it also has influenced every western nation in existence. Just think, those evil homosexuals have basically created the society you live in today.

In 94% of cases involving the murder of an African-American male, the assailant is another African-American male.
While it is nice for you to share that, I'm forced to wonder what your point is.

I'm not male or African-American. This entire line of discussion started because we were a) talking about terrorism, and b) I mentioned how my personal risk assessments impact my views of terrorism. The fact that other people who aren't me may have different views was kind of my entire point from my very first post.

The Roman empire fully embraced Homosexuality and look were they are now
:D
Nowhere
:D
Ill take this moment to have pride in the powers that be, that removed that empire from the world, and let nature take its course in the next powers that remove the current gay-loving empires from the world
:mp5:

Considering that the Roman Catholic Church still follows the Roman court rituals in every single Sunday mass all around the planet, and that they still keep Latin as their official language, I'd say they're pretty much everywhere on the planet.

Considering that the Roman Catholic Church still follows the Roman court rituals in every single Sunday mass all around the planet, and that they still keep Latin as their official language, I'd say they're pretty much everywhere on the planet.

http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/wp-content/media/2007/07/gay-romans.jpg
ALL HAIL GAY ROME!!!

Yeah, causes change. I just hope that in 15 years we're not gonna have people committing terrorist acts in the name of tofu or red meat, you know. That would suck.

You mean like Earth First! or the Earth Liberation Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front) or the Animal Liberation Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front)?

Perhaps not tofu, but reasonably close.

Bingo.

Considering the actual problems confronting the world today, I'd go so far as to say that any person who puts "gay marriage" at the top of their list of concerns is a giant gaping smelly asshole.

Lovely dark poetry, as usual. *applauds* -- or rather, *snaps fingers*

While it is nice for you to share that, I'm forced to wonder what your point is.

I'm not male or African-American. This entire line of discussion started because we were a) talking about terrorism, and b) I mentioned how my personal risk assessments impact my views of terrorism. The fact that other people who aren't me may have different views was kind of my entire point from my very first post.

My point is that there are sources of violence different from what the news may tell us.

Falling, for example. Or driving in your car.

Yeah...she even acknowledges that in her tirade.

God this is disgusting to listen to...:headbang: Especially this whole shit about society's that have fully embraced homosexuality only lasting a few decades at most. Yeah, because Canada's collapsing into anarchy.

...

Oh, wait, they're one of the happiest, most economically powerful nations in the world.yeah, we all know what happened when the philipines created a culture accepting of homosexuality...some time in prehistory. it's why there are no longer filipinos. they died out within decades. really, they are all zombies.

My point is that there are sources of violence different from what the news may tell us.

Falling, for example. Or driving in your car.

Rogue Clow....er.... Rogue Elephants.

*nod*

My point is that there are sources of violence different from what the news may tell us.

Falling, for example. Or driving in your car.

Yes, there just isn't enough coverage of falling in the news these days - I blame the media's liberal bias.

Yes, there just isn't enough coverage of falling in the news these days - I blame the media's liberal bias.

No, I blame the fact that it isn't nearly as "exciting" or "polarizing" as someone getting shot or blown up.

Now, if falling made more noise...

Gays can't be worse than terrorism. They don't kill anyone (other than themselves accidently sometimes).

The Statement is more absurd than saying "The USA preserves freedom"!!!!!

I'd trust a homosexual a lot more than a Terrorist, or anyone I suspect of being a terrorist.

You mean like Earth First! or the Earth Liberation Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front) or the Animal Liberation Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front)?

Perhaps not tofu, but reasonably close.

Yeah, and I don't want to say it's ridiculous, but it would be close to that term if we had people committing terrorist acts because to plant corn is bad. Corn has feelings. (I'm exagerating.) Damn it!:eek: I sound like a friend of mine who said once that the only reason she eats carrots is because carrots don't run for their lives. When confronted and told that carrots would run for their lives if they could, she stopped eating them altogether. Sad case, really.:(

LOL, that's a good one Nanatsu, it deserves another posting of this:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/nanatsu_no_tsuki.jpg

LOL!:D

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/WeAreNotWorthy.gif

http://www.smileycollector.com/images/bowing.gif

I found their insignia!:eek:
http://www.dumbening.com/images/10134.jpg

LOL, that's a good one Nanatsu, it deserves another posting of this:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/nanatsu_no_tsuki.jpg

http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/wp-content/media/2007/07/gay-romans.jpg
ALL HAIL GAY ROME!!!

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/WeAreNotWorthy.gif

I'd trust a homosexual a lot more than a Terrorist, or anyone I suspect of being a terrorist.

You would... j/k

Gays do have to apologize for Liberace.

Gays do have to apologize for Liberace.

And the idea that women look best when they look like sticks.

And the idea that women look best when they look like sticks.

And fushia-colored clothes with rainstones.:p

And the idea that women look best when they look like sticks.

Hey, hey, gay men may have to apologise for that, gay women give much protestation to that idea.

Give me curves dammit!

Since her comments were made public through a YouTube video, Kern has received thousands of emails. Many are too graphic to air.

Even though Kern has received life-threatening messages she said she is willing to take the issue as far as it goes or until her constituents decide otherwise.

"If it costs me my seat that's OK, that's OK," she said. "I'm going to stand up for what is right."
http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?s=7995389

:eek:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :(

Damn it!

Someone threatened her life! Gah! You all know what this means, right?

The gay movement are trying to stifle free speech! *sigh* Now we have to start insulting gay people to protect her free speech and all that. And someone have to make a movie about how gay people are evil, just to insult them and prove that they can't stop free speech that easily.

Oh man, that sucks. It's so much woooooooooooooork!

...
Someone else want to do it?

Damn it!

Someone threatened her life! Gah! You all know what this means, right?


Well, it wasn't any of us.....

Someone threatened her life! Gah! You all know what this means, right?

Now we have to follow through?

http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?s=7995389

:eek:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :(

Damn it!

Someone threatened her life! Gah! You all know what this means, right?

The gay movement are trying to stifle free speech! *sigh* Now we have to start insulting gay people to protect her free speech and all that. And someone have to make a movie about how gay people are evil, just to insult them and prove that they can't stop free speech that easily.

Oh man, that sucks. It's so much woooooooooooooork!

...
Someone else want to do it?

And let's not forget someone will post a link to a poster saying "Fagmerica the Fabulous? No Thanks."

RhynoDD;13519121']Now we have to follow through?

Shhhhh....

Shhhhh....

Not it.

there is nothing wrong with gays and all terrorists are muslims but not all muslims are terrorists.

IRA?
The American White Supremacist Groups?
The Russians?
The Crusaders?
They're all terrorist, you idiot!

IRA?
The American White Supremacist Groups?
The Russians?
The Crusaders?
They're all terrorist, you idiot!

No, the Crusaders are a jazz/funk band. Pretty certain they have never bombed Kool and the Gang.

OOOOOKlahoma where the homophobia runs through the land! Where fag bashing...

Well I never said I could sing.
.

Oh, sure, start the thread off with a classic Rogers and Hamerstein show tune. Nothing like reinforcing a stereotype, is there?

IRA?
The American White Supremacist Groups?
The Russians?
The Crusaders?
They're all terrorist, you idiot!

All Russians are terrorists? What an odd world view...

You would... j/k

Meaning what?

Meaning what?

Nothing really, I was jokingly implying that you were gay.

Nothing really, I was jokingly implying that you were gay.

The cheek!

You young impudent upstart! I ought to box your ears!

I'm not gay. I just like flowers and nice books. Oh, and hate sport.

whoever put the video together made it sound like she is the only in the world who believes that way, and everyone else feels its ok, which isnt true. i dont believe that a homosexual lifestyle is the right way to live, but i dont believe they are bad people, their lifestyle is just corrupt, it is perverting what was meant to be. i agree that young children should not be taught about it in school, its an issue that should be addressed in the home by the parents. i can understand why someone would want to get her out of office because she believes so strongly, but they want to put someone in office that believes strongly but for their side, and frankly, that person doesnt speak for me. it would be better just to get an unbiased official who looks at options morally and diplomatically and makes the best decisions.

The cheek!
:D
You young impudent upstart! I ought to box your ears!
:rolleyes: I'm more than twice your age
I'm not gay. I just like flowers and nice books. Oh, and hate sport.

Well, you've stated before that you're a virgin, so how can you really be sure; maybe you just haven't met the right guy?

All Russians are terrorists? What an odd world view...

Clearly you have not seen enough Bond movies.

RhynoDD;13521455']Clearly you have not seen enough Bond movies.

Therein lies the silliness of your post.;) Movies, dude, movies!:headbang: Stereotypical crap. Although, the only bad Russian I would mention is Putin, but I could get killed for that. Putin reminds me of Gollum.
http://www.republicanvoices.org/gollum_putin.jpg

:D

:rolleyes: I'm more than twice your age


Well, you've stated before that you're a virgin, so how can you really be sure; maybe you just haven't met the right guy?

My Brain is older than anyone (hence the divine right of Kings support!), so I shall still box your ears *runs to find cricket bat*

Trust me, I have met many 'right' girls, but I always end up being "just friends". Stupid being so easy to talk to! Grrrrrrrrrrrr!

And I've had gay offers. And Turned them down.

And I've had gay offers. And Turned them down.

All that proves is that you haven't found the right guy... Although considering the 'right girls' comment I'll amend it to "Are you sure you're not Bi?"

All that proves is that you haven't found the right guy... Although considering the 'right girls' comment I'll amend it to "Are you sure you're not Bi?"

Quite sure. A lot of them were nice guys, I was just less interested than Immelda Marcos at a downsizing convention!

Therein lies the silliness of your post.;) Movies, dude, movies!:headbang: Stereotypical crap. Although, the only bad Russian I would mention is Putin, but I could get killed for that. Putin reminds me of Gollum.
http://www.republicanvoices.org/gollum_putin.jpg

Josef Stalin, Ivan IV "Ivan the Terrible", Grigori Rasputin...

Quite sure. A lot of them were nice guys, I was just less interested than Immelda Marcos at a downsizing convention!

Maybe nice guys aren't your type?

Josef Stalin, Ivan IV "Ivan the Terrible", Grigori Rasputin...

Don't forget Lenin.:D

Maybe nice guys aren't your type?

Nor were the arseholes. I'm just not gay. Leslie in "Anne's House of Dreams" is the sort of Girl I'd go for. (but more my age!)

Why are you so determined for me to be gay? Are you trying to say something?

I won't be offended.

Or interested, but I'd like to know, it's a compliment.

Don't forget Lenin.:D

I really don't think Lenin was nearly as bad... I have come to the conclusion that while his methods were brutal at times that he really believed in marxism and was trying to help the Russian poor (mind you he certainly didn't avoid helping himself along the way).

Nor were the arseholes. I'm just not gay. Leslie in "Anne's House of Dreams" is the sort of Girl I'd go for. (but more my age!)

Why are you so determined for me to be gay? Are you trying to say something?

I won't be offended.

Or interested, but I'd like to know, it's a compliment.

I'm not, I just have been having fun with the premise, I like harassing people at times.

I'm not, I just have been having fun with the premise, I like harassing people at times.

Pity, I could do with the compliment.

Get out more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Pity, I could do with the compliment.

OK, you're a cute kid.

I really don't think Lenin was nearly as bad... I have come to the conclusion that while his methods were brutal at times that he really believed in marxism and was trying to help the Russian poor (mind you he certainly didn't avoid helping himself along the way).

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q71/slugboy051/Lenin.jpg
I was just putting him in the Russian wagon.;)

OK, you're a cute kid.

Kid?

I'm not a goat!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, there's about 10% homosexuals among humans. There's >1% terrorists.

So the question then becomes, can the 10% commit enough violent crimes and murders that they'd exceed the death toll of terrorists? Furthermore, should homosexual terrorists be counted in both or should they be discarded?

If so, I would like to declare the following: Women are more of a threat than terrorists. Men are more of a threat than terrorists.

Well, I guess we'd better recreate the whole Jonestown situation and kill ourselves then...
Seeing as according to statistics men and women generally are more dangerous than the Gay community.
Did you know, 100% of crimes in America are commited by Americans. Only about 5% are commited by homosexuals. And yes illegal aliens count as Americans.

Therein lies the silliness of your post.;) Movies, dude, movies!:headbang: Stereotypical crap. Although, the only bad Russian I would mention is Putin, but I could get killed for that. Putin reminds me of Gollum.
http://www.republicanvoices.org/gollum_putin.jpg

But everyone knows that Bond movies are based on historical truth.

Kid?

I'm not a goat!!!!!!!!!!!!

prove it...

prove it...

I'm typing.

Goats can't get into a house or comprehend the English Language.

I'm typing.

Goats can't get into a house or comprehend the English Language.

So you are a gay mutant goat then...

:D ;)

So you are a gay mutant goat then...

:D ;)

How do I know you're not a mutant Cheese puff?

How do I know you're not a mutant Cheese puff?

You don't...

Fair enough.

Fair enough.

As 'proof' that I'm not...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Dyakovochu.jpg

I'm Nanatsu's Dyakovochu ;)

Well, it wasn't any of us.....

You sure about that?

As 'proof' that I'm not...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff315/Sarothai/Dyakovochu.jpg

I'm Nanatsu's Dyakovochu ;)

Can you describe the picture? My computer's having a funny phase.

Can you describe the picture? My computer's having a funny phase.

You're better off not knowing....

Can you describe the picture? My computer's having a funny phase.

It's a picture of Pikachu with my nation flag on its belly :D

You're better off not knowing....

And your point is?

You're better off not knowing....

Can you describe it. I need an unbiased view.

Can you describe it. I need an unbiased view.

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It's a picture of Pikachu with my nation flag on its belly :D

And your point is?
That he would spend one day less in rehab if he doesn't know.

Can you describe it. I need an unbiased view.
No, you really don't need that at all.

Silly goose, everyone knows all terrorists are Muslims and Muslims hate gays.

If terrorist = Muslim then does this mean that America was founded on a Muslim nation?