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Ill comment as soon as im done laughing. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/pl_nm/newyork_spitzer_dc_3

*dies of laughter*

This is very funny. :D

Mr. Clean forgot to wipe his dick off and check his wallet...

Is the Governor gonna have to choke a bitch?

Spitzer or swallow?

1. He'll have to resign.

2. When he gets home, his stuff will be out in the street.

3. His wife gets half of his money and property.

Is getting busted with a prostitute automatic resignation territory in this day and age? Clinton survived it. Granted he didnt pay for it strictly speaking which is illegal in and of itself but the question remains.

Is getting busted with a prostitute automatic resignation territory in this day and age? Clinton survived it. Granted he didnt pay for it strictly speaking which is illegal in and of itself but the question remains.

Well, he's a Democrat so that helps. The Democratic Party won't automatically turn their back on him like the Republican party does(probably out of fear that the rest of them might get caught).

On the other hand, if he's actually convicted of a felony, ... well, he can still be Mayor of Washington D.C. :D

He has to regain the trust of his family now...how nice.

Uh- most of us would just be arrested and not have time to try to kiss up.


And the people of NY get left with a deputy govenor- just like NJ a few years ago- that no one elected.

A sitting governor, former state prosecutor, former federal prosecutor, former state attorney general, with a wife and three young children drops $HUGE to lie down with some ho:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0306082emperor1.html

$5500 an hour?! He could have gone to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch and had two A-list porn stars for that kind of jack!

I'm waiting for those who defended Bubba in the '90's to start screeching (1) "It's only about sex!" and (2) it's the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy!

Now I'd like to dedicate the Beatles' "Revolution No. 9" to the soon-to-be-former Governor of the Empire State :p

Is getting busted with a prostitute automatic resignation territory in this day and age? Clinton survived it. Granted he didnt pay for it strictly speaking which is illegal in and of itself but the question remains.

Bubba wasn't charged with visiting a prostitute. He lied under oath in order to thwart a woman's civil lawsuit against him. For which he was eventually disbarred. Big difference.

Latest from the New York Times (coming from the NYT, take this for what it's worth): Spitter was caught on a federal wiretap arranging to hook up with his ho. :D

er wut?
So i mean does he do this sort of thing often or is this a new er passtime for this guy? er maybe, right yeah so...back to pancakes! yeah they are sooooo good.

Bubba wasn't charged with visiting a prostitute. He lied under oath in order to thwart a woman's civil lawsuit against him. For which he was eventually disbarred. Big difference.

Thanks for clearing that up, care to answer the actual question? ;P

Ill comment as soon as im done laughing. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080310/pl_nm/newyork_spitzer_dc_3

See, if we just legalize prostitution this won't be a problem. I still think it's mostly a personal, private problem to be dealt with in private, but that's just me.

Is getting busted with a prostitute automatic resignation territory in this day and age? Clinton survived it. Granted he didnt pay for it strictly speaking which is illegal in and of itself but the question remains.

As far as we know, the blowjob and insertion of a cigar into a vagina didn't cost any money.

Except the American Public about $40 million for Ken Starr's investigation into matters he wasn't appointed to investigate. :p

A sitting governor, former state prosecutor, former federal prosecutor, former state attorney general, with a wife and three young children drops $HUGE to lie down with some ho:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0306082emperor1.html

$5500 an hour?! He could have gone to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch and had two A-list porn stars for that kind of jack!

I'm waiting for those who defended Bubba in the '90's to start screeching (1) "It's only about sex!" and (2) it's the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy!

Now I'd like to dedicate the Beatles' "Revolution No. 9" to the soon-to-be-former Governor of the Empire State :p


He could have gone to Parkway rest stops in NJ with former Gov Jim McGreevy for free.

As far as we know, the blowjob and insertion of a cigar into a vagina didn't cost any money.

a cuban cigar, no less. you do have to moisten it somehow.

Monica would have gotten a cabinet position if everyone didnt make such a big deal

At least Spitzer was never on the record as saying he believed homosexuality to be abnormal and didn't get caught arranging a hookup with a male prostitute ;)

True, it doesn't have the same poetry as a homophobe caught arranging gay sex.

True, it doesn't have the same poetry as a homophobe caught arranging gay sex.

Still, a guy with the ultimate Mr. Clean image, caught cheating on his wife... family man, upright good-guy prosecuting attorney...

If he wasn't a prosecutor, it would almost be nothing. But violating the law while being an enforcer...

imagine McGreevy peering through his glory-hole and seeing Spitzer?

"Dude-whats up?"

At least Spitzer was never on the record as saying he believed homosexuality to be abnormal and didn't get caught arranging a hookup with a male prostitute ;)

When he just made this speech, his wife looked so fucking pissed...


"Over the past nine years — eight years as attorney general and one as governor — I have tried to uphold a vision of progressive politics that would rebuild New York and create opportunity for all. We sought to bring real change to New York and that will continue," Spitzer said.

"Today, I want to briefly address a private matter. I have acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family, and that violates my — or any sense of right and wrong. I apologize first, and most importantly, to my family. I apologize to the public, who I promised better.

"I do not believe that politics in the long run is about individuals, it is about ideas for the public good and doing what is best for the state of New York. "But I am disappointed and failed to live up to the standard I expected of myself. I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family. I will not be taking questions. Thank you very much. I will report back to you in short order. Thank you very much," Spitzer said.

Still, a guy with the ultimate Mr. Clean image, caught cheating on his wife... family man, upright good-guy prosecuting attorney...

If he wasn't a prosecutor, it would almost be nothing. But violating the law while being an enforcer...

...is politics. :D

More hilarity...

Federal prosecutors rarely charge clients in prostitution cases, which are generally seen as state crimes. But the Mann Act, passed by Congress in 1910 to address prostitution, human trafficking and what was viewed at the time as immorality in general, makes it a crime to transport someone between states for the purpose of prostitution. The four defendants charged in the case unsealed last week were all charged with that crime, along with several others.

Mr. Spitzer had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. “It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Thanks for clearing that up, care to answer the actual question? ;P

As far as I know, there's no law that requires a governor to resign over alleged involvement with prostitutes. And typically, prosecutors don't go after johns, but the exception seems to be high government officials who have a duty to enforce the law.

So: they may or may not go after him. Politically, however, his reputation is probably shot and he will likely have a hard time hanging on to the job.

Developing . . . .

BTW: I have family in upstate New York who I just spoke to, and they don't know for sure either, but they expect he'll be leaving Albany any time now.

He could have gone to Parkway rest stops in NJ with former Gov Jim McGreevy for free.

One word: EWWW!

$5500 an hour?! He could have gone to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch and had two A-list porn stars for that kind of jack!

And another benefit of patronizing the Bunny Ranch: IT'S LEGAL!!!

Wow, the first time I vote for a politician I actually like with a great passion and likeness, he goes and does this.

Good job, asshole. :mad:

poor thing.

now everyone knows he overpaid for sex.

good thing hes not a republican.

Given his past actions in regards to high level prostitution rings, this does have a taste of irony. Not as glorious as if it had been the case which Gauthier had outlined, but it is still quite wunderbar!

Don't worry. If Hillary gets elected, he'll be pardoned for these Federal offenses.

That is, if his wife doesn't kill him first.

Don't worry. If Hillary gets elected, he'll be pardoned for these Federal offenses.

That is, if his wife doesn't kill him first.

If his wife kills him in a way that the Feds get jurisdiction Hillary would probably pardon her after giving her some award.

Well, he's a Democrat so that helps. The Democratic Party won't automatically turn their back on him like the Republican party does(probably out of fear that the rest of them might get caught).

On the other hand, if he's actually convicted of a felony, ... well, he can still be Mayor of Washington D.C. :D

That's an interesting spin on it. The media would hound him and the party to death until he resigned if he was a Republican, like they would have Ted Kennedy, Byrd and Harry Reid. But we all know the way that works.

Personally I never understood why people go into politics for this very reason.

Or why they resign. Like the gay governor in New Jersey. Ok, so you are gay? Wtf cares?

Yeah, I could understand him being forced to resign in this case, but I never understood why McGreevey resigned.

That's an interesting spin on it. The media would hound him and the party to death until he resigned if he was a Republican, like they would have Ted Kennedy, Byrd and Harry Reid. But we all know the way that works.

Personally I never understood why people go into politics for this very reason.

Or why they resign. Like the gay governor in New Jersey. Ok, so you are gay? Wtf cares?

10 bucks says he resigns. Because it's not about sex.

It's about violating the Mann Act (Federal law).

He's personally prosecuted people for the same essential violation, and criticized prostitution in public.

It undermines his public credibility for him to violate a law that he uses to punish other people.

He has to regain the trust of his family now...how nice.

Uh- most of us would just be arrested and not have time to try to kiss up.


And the people of NY get left with a deputy govenor- just like NJ a few years ago- that no one elected.

If he resigns, The Lt. Governor takes over. However, New Jersey doesn't have a Lt. Governor so that falls to the President of The Senate. The Lt. Governor is like the VP, the Governor picks a Lt and runs for office. In New Jersey, you get screwed.

1. He'll have to resign.

2. When he gets home, his stuff will be out in the street.

3. His wife gets half of his money and property.

He will have to resign. The prostitution across the state lines is a Federal offense, and is punishable by 20 years in prison. Then we he gets out, he'll have to make amends to regain the public trust. In other words, he's screwed on all 3 counts.

Yeah, I could understand him being forced to resign in this case, but I never understood why McGreevey resigned.

Mc Greevey (McGreedy in Jersey terms) resigned not because he was gay, but the fact that he had an extra maritial affair, and that would affect public views and trust of him, as well as the fact of the distraction to carry out his job from the fall out. On the other hand, he's doing better now then when he was governor, altho his wife is raising hell in divorce court.

Mc Greevey (McGreedy in Jersey terms) resigned not because he was gay, but the fact that he had an extra maritial affair, and that would affect public views and trust of him, as well as the fact of the distraction to carry out his job from the fall out. On the other hand, he's doing better now then when he was governor, altho his wife is raising hell in divorce court.

Yeah, she's pissed. I guess the thought of screwing a man who's been screwing assholes was too much for her.

That's an interesting spin on it. The media would hound him and the party to death until he resigned if he was a Republican, like they would have Ted Kennedy, Byrd and Harry Reid. But we all know the way that works.

Personally I never understood why people go into politics for this very reason.

Or why they resign. Like the gay governor in New Jersey. Ok, so you are gay? Wtf cares?

*Looks at David Vitter and Larry Craig*

What?

He has to regain the trust of his family now...how nice.

Uh- most of us would just be arrested and not have time to try to kiss up.


And the people of NY get left with a deputy govenor- just like NJ a few years ago- that no one elected.

He was caught on tape talking to a hooker. It's politically ruinous, but would not get most people arrested.

Well, he's a Democrat so that helps. The Democratic Party won't automatically turn their back on him like the Republican party does(probably out of fear that the rest of them might get caught).

On the other hand, if he's actually convicted of a felony, ... well, he can still be Mayor of Washington D.C. :D

"Don't get high, you won't be nothing"

"I could be mayor"


---Chris Rock

Is getting busted with a prostitute automatic resignation territory in this day and age? Clinton survived it. Granted he didnt pay for it strictly speaking which is illegal in and of itself but the question remains.

I think it being illegal is the issue that makes it a resignation issue. You have an attorney general that becomes governor and he's caught using an illegal prostitution ring... There's something about upholding the law and breaking the law that just sours people's stomachs. He's finished!

Yeah, I could understand him being forced to resign in this case, but I never understood why McGreevey resigned.

The gay route was an easy way out for the corruption charges he could have faced. I believe it had much more to do with federal charges from Christie than it did liking the penis.

I laughed, not because of the story, but because next to it was an ad saying "Should Hillary Quit?"...And for some reason, I thought maybe she was the one getting in trouble, until of course I read the story and such. Oh well.

I'll take Spitzer over Gulotta anyday.

(Thomas Gulotta was county executive for Nassau County and managed to land it in a huge debt -- even though it's one of the richest counties in the coutnry (currently 30th, used to be top ten).)

Am I the only one who thinks prostitution should be legal nation-wide?

now everyone knows he overpaid for sex.

Precisely what I thought. Who pays $5,000 for sex? I just hope for that money it was great because that's expensive.

Am I the only one who thinks prostitution should be legal nation-wide?

You're not. I still think Eliot Spitzer did something wrong that he'd have to answer to (cheating on his wife, breaking the law) but aside from adultery I don't see anything else wrong- I presume Spitzer had consensual sex. There's worse things to wrap up in a scandal (like fraud, for instance).

now everyone knows he overpaid for sex.
Good point. Is this the sort of man NY'ers want handling their economy? A man who doesn't even know the price of a good headjob?
The sooner he resigns, the better!

I still think Eliot Spitzer did something wrong that he'd have to answer to (cheating on his wife, breaking the law) but aside from adultery I don't see anything else wrong- I presume Spitzer had consensual sex. There's worse things to wrap up in a scandal (like fraud, for instance).

According to the NY Times, there are other possible charges:
Spitzer’s lawyers would probably meet soon with federal prosecutors to discuss any possible legal exposure. The official said the discussions were likely to focus not on prostitution, but on how it was paid for: Whether the payments from Mr. Spitzer to the service were made in a way to conceal their purpose and source. That could amount to a crime called structuring, which carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11spitzer.html?ref=nyregion

This should get even better. The amount of money potentially involved seems suspiciously large (since he's apparently a repeat customer), even on a governor's salary--and, if he was also using them while still AG, it's even more unlikely that he would have decided to afford that out of his own money.

I think the books of every office he's ever held should be audited to make sure there aren't any strangely expensive "entertainment" expenses or somesuch that were registered during his terms.

Well, he's a Democrat so that helps. The Democratic Party won't automatically turn their back on him like the Republican party does(probably out of fear that the rest of them might get caught).


The republicans didn't turn their back on Doug Vitter, their notorious whoremonger from Louisiana.

At any rate, 3000 dollars an hour is a ludicrous sum of money for a hooker.

He could have gone to Parkway rest stops in NJ with former Gov Jim McGreevy for free.And Larry Craig!
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_mn_sex_sting_acquittal.html

Wow, the first time I vote for a politician I actually like with a great passion and likeness, he goes and does this.

Good job, asshole. :mad:That's almost exactly how i reacted when a coworker brought it up to me ... right into the video with the wife.
:(

You can understand why someone as wealthy as spitzer would be willing to pay as much as he did, given his position.

He can hardly go out and pick up a girl that age at a bar, being the governor of the state.

He paid a lot of money for a pretty girl to keep a secret, and a considerably smaller sum of money to have sex with her, something he probably could have accomplished by taking her out to dinner and feeding her a nice bottle of wine.

Am I the only one who thinks prostitution should be legal nation-wide?

No, you're not. But like the cases where people thump up and down about how homosexuality is a sin and then get caught soliciting some paid homosexual sex or in a relationship like this, this guy thumped up and down about prostitution rings and actively tried to bring them down and it turns out he might have just been looking for a discount.

I do think you're allowed a little bit of flexability as an official because that's just realistic, but not that much. If you're caught taking cookies it's hard to establish that you should still be in charge of cookie jar enforcement.

You can understand why someone as wealthy as spitzer would be willing to pay as much as he did, given his position.

He can hardly go out and pick up a girl that age at a bar, being the governor of the state.

He paid a lot of money for a pretty girl to keep a secret, and a considerably smaller sum of money to have sex with her, something he probably could have accomplished by taking her out to dinner and feeding her a nice bottle of wine.
I think it would be less of a problem if he DID use his own money. It looks like he used state money, so it isn't just sex... It's also theft.

I think it would be less of a problem if he DID use his own money. It looks like he used state money, so it isn't just sex... It's also theft.

Cite? Ive read nowhere that he used State funds. In fact if you read the transcripts from The Smoking Gun it appears he got money straight out of his own ATM. The guy is a billionare he doesnt need State money for anything.

And also according to the transcript it appears to have been $1500 for 4 hours at least for the event that covered the FBI transcripts.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0310082spitzer1.html?link=rssfeed


Been reading about fake corporations being set up to disguise the source of the money in his account but the article isnt asserting the moneys original source was State funds and not his own.

Cite? Ive read nowhere that he used State funds. In fact if you read the transcripts from The Smoking Gun it appears he got money straight out of his own ATM. The guy is a billionare he doesnt need State money for anything.

And also according to the transcript it appears to have been $1500 for 4 hours at least for the event that covered the FBI transcripts.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0310082spitzer1.html?link=rssfeed


Been reading about fake corporations being set up to disguise the source of the money in his account but the article isnt asserting the moneys original source was State funds and not his own.

My mistake. I heard a bit on the news about the "source of the money" and made a bad assumption. Turns out he was in violation of federal anti-money laundering laws, as you stated. That's certainly the more serious of the charges.

Wow, the first time I vote for a politician I actually like with a great passion and likeness, he goes and does this.

Good job, asshole. :mad:

dont blame yourself- he had a good record-brilliant, and a reputation for being clean.

If he resigns, The Lt. Governor takes over. However, New Jersey doesn't have a Lt. Governor so that falls to the President of The Senate. The Lt. Governor is like the VP, the Governor picks a Lt and runs for office. In New Jersey, you get screwed.



He will have to resign. The prostitution across the state lines is a Federal offense, and is punishable by 20 years in prison. Then we he gets out, he'll have to make amends to regain the public trust. In other words, he's screwed on all 3 counts.

When McGreevey resigned,wasnt Richard Codey a Lt.Governor? I know he was/is pres of Senate, but I thought he was referred to as Lt.

I think the prostitution takes back seat to what I heard about money laundering in the Spitzer case? I'm just hearing bits and pieces- I could be wrong.

I think the prostitution takes back seat to what I heard about money laundering in the Spitzer case? I'm just hearing bits and pieces- I could be wrong.

Yea but its not money laundering in a traditional scence of trying to disguise illegal monetary gains and make them appear legal but it was in this case just a means of him making payments to hookers without having the money get traced back to his name.

Yea but its not money laundering in a traditional scence of trying to disguise illegal monetary gains and make them appear legal but it was in this case just a means of him making payments to hookers without having the money get traced back to his name.

I understand that- he did pursue prosection of money laundering schemes vigorously himself- but- Did I also here he had a credit card in a fictitious name he used as well?

I'm surprised he took part in these things personally.

I also think he pissed off someone very powerful.

Heh, apparently the guy was one of those 'vidya gaymz r teh eb1l!' fellows too, or so says Gamepolitics via Kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/366213/gta-critic-politician-in-prostitution-ring-bust

To quote:
Like all parents, I know it is increasingly difficult to protect our children from negative influences... We have learned that when self-regulation fails, government must step in... We must do more to protect our children from excessive sex and violence in the media... Media content has gotten more graphic, more violent and more sex-based...
Currently, nothing under New York State law prohibits a fourteen-year old from walking into a video store and buying... a game like Grand Theft Auto, which rewards a player for stealing cars and beating people up. Children can even simulate having sex with a prostitute...

Or, to quote more accuratly...

Children can even simulate having sex with a prostitute, sort of like the one I just hired.

Yea but its not money laundering in a traditional scence of trying to disguise illegal monetary gains and make them appear legal but it was in this case just a means of him making payments to hookers without having the money get traced back to his name.
And we've only got our wonderful federal government to thank for that. We can probably thank the "war on drugs", too. That's probably led to the curtailment of more civil rights than the Patriot Act could ever hope to.

http://usera.imagecave.com/dsf3g/wonkette/Spitzer.jpg

Anyone know where I can participate in the title of this thread? :D

Anyone know where I can participate in the title of this thread? :D

Yes...























































Elliot Spitzer

I love the NY rag paper coverage. Headline: HO NO!

Maybe it's a good thing that the news is slow enough that a politician hiring an escort is the big talk of the country.

...as if this were unprecedented.

Maybe it's a good thing that the news is slow enough that a politician hiring an escort is the big talk of the country.

...as if this were unprecedented.

Yea. In order to put the reaction in perspective, you have to remember Americas Puritan roots and the fact that rated R movies get that way not from violence but from breasts.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336649,00.html

Gov. Eliot Spitzer's political career teetered on the brink of collapse Monday after the corruption-fighting politician once known as "Mr. Clean" was accused of paying for a romp with a high-priced call girl.

The irony.... Elliot Sphincter started with a good idea, but like so many - got carried away. He started finding fraud and abuse under every stone and in every corner. He became the Wall Street Version of Joseph McCarthy.

Mr Sphincter is the father of countless headaches and governances, created cumbersome regulations governing minutia and arguable created more problems than he resolved. He initiated events which created even more victimless laws, and regulations which did little to stop abusers but much to impede ethical professionals.

And now he is victim of just such a stupid law. Nearly any other politician and I wouldn't care - I would actually have sympathy and decree the foolishness of the laws against victimless crimes. However --- Mr. Sphincter is the father of so many of these sorts of laws I find it only suitable that his career should be consumed by them.

As a citizen of New York, I am quite ashamed and disgusted at Spitzer. Of course, I was quite depressed when he won the election and am waiting for him to resign (or get impeached if he is too arrogant to resign...which wouldn't surprise me) to say these two words:

GOOD RIDDANCE!

Even his own party is upset with the job he is doing as governor...hes been a failure at his job since day 1.

It's funny when people with a reputation for being 'clean' get caught with prostitutes :)

He's not finished. I personally would like to see him stay on. Clinton, Criag and others have done it. Granted I know theres a level of hypocricy with him, but he's a politician, let it slide.

At least now he and Hillary will have something to talk about at the DNC convention...

[moot now that when the threads have been merged]

He's not finished. I personally would like to see him stay on. Clinton, Criag and others have done it. Granted I know theres a level of hypocricy with him, but he's a politician, let it slide.

IMS from the last thread, he wasn't the sort of moralising family values politician that generally gets caught with prostitutes, so he might pull through.

It's funny when people with a reputation for being 'clean' get caught with prostitutes :)

What if she was a clean prostitute?

This does not provide any new information or new discussion from the already active Spitzer thread. Why does it exist?

To give Mystic Skeptic an opportunity to earn our respect.


...

Better luck next time? :p

This does not provide any new information or new discussion from the already active Spitzer thread. Why does it exist?

I did a search for "Spitzer" and couldn't find any other thread newer than six months...

I did a search for "Spitzer" and couldn't find any other thread newer than six months...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551513
Last post, four hours ago.

I did a search for "Spitzer" and couldn't find any other thread newer than six months...
I have found the jolt search feature to be quite lacking. If you want to search for poster's names, it's okay. If you want to search for text in posts, it sucks.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551513
Last post, four hours ago.

Hmm, not sure why it didn't show up in a search under 'Spitzer' (keyword) . I also checked the first two pages of General...

Eh... don't be so certain. He may ride out the storm.

I think it would be less of a problem if he DID use his own money. It looks like he used state money, so it isn't just sex... It's also theft.

Does it look like that?

From what I gather it looks like he just moved his own money around to make it difficult to trace it from him to the whore service.

Hence the charge of 'structuring.'

Do you have a link to somewhere that suggests it was state money?

Eh... don't be so certain. He may ride out the storm.
Just noticed yer sig ...
Odd how i was thinking of Heidi Fleiss for this thread .. so i look up a link, and it says, "Client 9 is an arrogant jerk".
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336909,00.html
:p

I'm waiting for those who defended Bubba in the '90's to start screeching (1) "It's only about sex!" and (2) it's the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy!



Oh please. Do you want me to dig up all the articles about Republicans who got caught doing "morally wrong" things and having sex out of marriage, many times with guys? Or all the Evangelical leaders who have? Because I will.


Ill leave you with this name: Larry Craig.

Oh please. Do you want me to dig up all the articles about Republicans who got caught doing "morally wrong" things and having sex out of marriage, many times with guys? Or all the Evangelical leaders who have? Because I will.


Ill leave you with this name: Larry Craig.
Go, man, go!
*eats cereal off head*

Does it look like that?

From what I gather it looks like he just moved his own money around to make it difficult to trace it from him to the whore service.

Hence the charge of 'structuring.'

Do you have a link to somewhere that suggests it was state money?
Did you read a post a little later where I retracted the statement about using government funds?

Guess not.

Looks like the chief of police in Tehran has outdone Mr. Spitzer...

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1962300820

Tehran, 10 March (AKI) - Tehran's police chief, Reza Zarei, has been arrested after he was found nude in a local brothel with six naked prostitutes, according to report on the Iranian Farda News.

Farda News is a website said to be close to the mayor of Tehran and former chief of the police forces, Mohammed Bagher Qalibaf.

Following the raid, Zarei stepped down from his post as police chief. The news of his arrest however was not reported by any official Iranian news agency.

According to a popular Iranian website Gooya, the order to raid the brothel was given directly by Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, chief of the judicial authorities.

Before he was arrested, Zarei was in charge of the programme for the 'moralisation of the city'.

It is alleged that in the past six months, hundreds of young people have been arrested in Iran for not respecting the Islamic code of behaviour

In a few weeks, he'll be hanging from a construction crane (it seems to be the popular method of execution in Iran).

So are these prostitution rings the Satanist equivalent of those Christian purity rings?

Does it look like that?

From what I gather it looks like he just moved his own money around to make it difficult to trace it from him to the whore service.

Hence the charge of 'structuring.'

Do you have a link to somewhere that suggests it was state money?
It is unlikely it was state money, but it was obviously money that his wife didn't know he had: I would guess it was kickback money. He was prosecuting certain prostitution rings at the same time he was patronizing others, and doubtless received some money from the underworld figures whose competition he was knocking out.

He's gonna resign. First the expense, and now he loses his job. Seems like a steep price to pay. Would've been cheaper to take wifey to a sex therapist and/or masturbate.

No vagina is worth this much trouble. :p

He's gonna resign. First the expense, and now he loses his job. Seems like a steep price to pay. Would've been cheaper to take wifey to a sex therapist and/or masturbate.

No vagina is worth this much trouble. :p

Resignation effective Monday.

WTF was he getting for $4,500?????

WTF was he getting for $4,500?????

An end to his career?

An end to his career?

lawl

Looks like the chief of police in Tehran has outdone Mr. Spitzer...

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1962300820



In a few weeks, he'll be hanging from a construction crane (it seems to be the popular method of execution in Iran).
How times have changed since Louisiana Governor Edwards said, "I could not lose unless I was caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

Its official, Spitzer has resigned.

Its official, Spitzer has resigned.

Good.

How times have changed since Louisiana Governor Edwards said, "I could not lose unless I was caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

And not for the better. :(

It is unlikely it was state money, but it was obviously money that his wife didn't know he had: I would guess it was kickback money. He was prosecuting certain prostitution rings at the same time he was patronizing others, and doubtless received some money from the underworld figures whose competition he was knocking out.

Do you often make complete conjecture out of thin air with absolutly no facts to support the evidence often? Spitzers family are BILLIONARES. 80k over the course of 5 or 6 years isnt even a few weeks interest from your bank account. When your a billionare, you dont need kickbacks, you dont need relationships with underworld figures,but apparently you do need sex with paid strangers without condoms *shrug*

Do you often make complete conjecture out of thin air with absolutly no facts to support the evidence often? Spitzers family are BILLIONARES. 80k over the course of 5 or 6 years isnt even a few weeks interest from your bank account. When your a billionare, you dont need kickbacks, you dont need relationships with underworld figures,but apparently you do need sex with paid strangers without condoms *shrug*
No, I did not know he was super-wealthy, neither apparently do a lot of the reporters who are raising questions about "where does the money come from?" If he doesn't need relationships with underworld figures for the money, apparently he does in order to get some kind of "special" need serviced: his conduct in prosecuting some while patronizing others still needs some explanation, and currying favor with some of these people by shutting down their competitions sounds as good a theory as any.

At least Spitter wasn't banging some ugly skank:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337331,00.html

Not unattractive, but not $1000/hour material either. But then, no girl on earth is worth that kind of jack.

Hope it was worth that $80K to get your freak on, Spitter. I'll hoist a green beer on St. Paddy's Day in honor of your political demise :p

At least Spitter wasn't banging some ugly skank:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337331,00.html

Not unattractive, but not $1000/hour material either. But then, no girl on earth is worth that kind of jack.

Hope it was worth that $80K to get your freak on, Spitter. I'll hoist a green beer on St. Paddy's Day in honor of your political demise :p

Considering your glee on this topic, New Mitanni, I am curious as to your opinion of Lyin' Larry Craig* staying in the U.S. Senate.

*Gee, did I give away my thoughts?

No, I did not know he was super-wealthy, neither apparently do a lot of the reporters who are raising questions about "where does the money come from?" If he doesn't need relationships with underworld figures for the money, apparently he does in order to get some kind of "special" need serviced: his conduct in prosecuting some while patronizing others still needs some explanation, and currying favor with some of these people by shutting down their competitions sounds as good a theory as any.

If he was currying such favor you'd think he could at least swing a freebie. $5k doesn't even sound like a discount.

The reporting I've heard is the money movements were so his wife wouldn't notice he was dumping that much money on gettin' someone to knock his junk around.

Considering your glee on this topic, New Mitanni, I am curious as to your opinion of Lyin' Larry Craig* staying in the U.S. Senate.

*Gee, did I give away my thoughts?

Craig is stinking up the Senate with his presence. He is a disgrace and should have resigned long ago. (Of course, Boy Barney Frank and Gerry Studds should have resigned from the House as well, but since they are (or were) M-Ass-achusetts Democrats they got away with it.)

Hopefully the court of appeals will deny Craig's attempt to withdraw his previous plea and make him live with it.

BTW: my glee is shared if not exceeded by most of my relatives in upstate New York (Schenectady in particular).

Boy Barney Frank? :confused:

Untie him, I say. He's trying to run a state.

Spitzer, getting the bust during an election year in a critical state. Hmm, I wonder, can someone have sex without thinking about politics in this country? On the upside, the girls that did Spitzer should contact Monica Lewinsky and ask how to make an insane amount of money on a political scandal. America's a wierd country: it's ok to start a war with a country for no reason (Iraq), but not ok to have sex while you're a governor. Well at least I got my kicks from David Letterman, who's hilarious as always.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB--TRZsx64&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH5TIR8_QbQ

Spitzer, getting the bust during an election year in a critical state. Hmm, I wonder, can someone have sex without thinking about politics in this country? On the upside, the girls that did Spitzer should contact Monica Lewinsky and ask how to make an insane amount of money on a political scandal. America's a wierd country: it's ok to start a war with a country for no reason (Iraq), but not ok to have sex while you're a governor. Well at least I got my kicks from David Letterman, who's hilarious as always.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB--TRZsx64&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH5TIR8_QbQ
It's not that he had sex, or even that he had sex with someone who wasn't his wife. He hired a prostitute.

I am so happy this rectal discharge is going down in flames!

It's not that he had sex, or even that he had sex with someone who wasn't his wife. He hired a prostitute.

Certain administrations have been prositutes for certain companies.

Certain administrations have been prositutes for certain companies.

Oh fuck yeah.
Have been, still are.